lol K-Rod accepted artibtration, that sucks for Milwaukee
so who’s after Prince now, besides the Marlins I presume?
kinda surprised. basically he went money > role.
so who’s after Prince now, besides the Marlins I presume?
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, December 8, 2011 2:28 PM (43 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink
weird thing w/ this is that national writers have been saying that the marlins have been sniffing around prince, but local guys have been adamant that they have no interest in him
i think you’re looking at the brewers, cubs, mariners and rangers, though i wouldn’t rule the marlins out
Brewers definitely won’t be able to afford him if they’re going to pay K-Rod $13.5 million, and Cubs probably won’t want that kind of contract—I would say Rangers, Jays, and Marlins are most likely
i think rangers make the most sense
brewers will likely make him an offer on the lower end — could see the cubs offering him a shorter deal for more money tho, esp if the market is wide open
i will eat my hat if the J’s make a move on him.
(as in, it is so not happening)
why not? he could singlehandedly make them a contender
Seattle makes some sense too though they’re not “one piece away” from anything
he goes against everything AA looks for in a player.
overweight and zero positional flexibility. not to mention the price tag and years are both things AA said he will avoid (although i’m sure we’ve all heard that before).
plus the J’s are ~ok~ at 1st for now. i’d imagine adding a starter is his priority now that the 2B and closer roles have been settled.
thats all true but if you can get him at the right price (and really, how many teams are there that will make a serious offer?), you kind of have to think, is AA going to settle for a 88–90 win club, or is he going to make a serious playoff run in the toughest division?
the problem is probably more the years than the price
i don’t see the J’s being a 88–90 win club even with Fielder! i think they’re at least 3–4 years away from contention—when AA’s draft picks are hitting the majors and maturing. why pay Prince to hang around until then—and then block a player who might be better suited for 1st than anywhere else (like they did with Lind).
Jon_Heyman
People ask, is albert pujols worth $254 million? And I say, is he 3 times better than aj burnett? Or twice as good as vernon wells? #bargain
This dude is dumb as rocks.
overweight and zero positional flexibility. not to mention the price tag and years are both things AA said he will avoid (although i’m sure we’ve all heard that before).
Nobody expects positional flexibility from their first baseman. As for his weight, health is a skill. Fielder has never been injured and plays 160 games every year. He looks like an exception to the rule, like Sabathia.
The Jays could do worse than signing Fielder, as long as they don’t sign him for 20M per and then cap the team payroll at some ridiculously low number like they did when they extended Delgado.
“Nobody expects positional flexibility from their first baseman.”
You do expect them to be able to play first base though, which Fielder is not great at and will only get worse.
the rays just signed matt moore to a 5 yr, 14m contract o________________________________________O
i didn’t know he was a two-sport athlete!
wow. how do the Rays keep getting away with this
no idea
cubs traded tyler colvin and dj lamahieu to the rockies for ian stewart and casey weathers
p good trade for the cubs — both those guys are bad, stewart kinda sucks too but he could prob platoon vs righties
colvin was decent his rookie year but yeah sucked pretty hard last year, sounds like he and stewart are both question marks
Was reading this morning how that might open up a Martin Prado for Seth Smith(+) trade, but it’s pure guesswork at this point.
5yr/$14m is less than the average mlb salary!
i also heard reported they have (multiple?) club options after the 5 yrs
the a’s are trading trevor cahill, for some reason
to the d-backs
what’s the median salary these days?
it apparently was $1m three years ago, dunno about now
still in shock about this Pujols deal and than the Lakers stole the thunder for about a half an hour
i currently live in Anaheim
i need a new team, the Giants did nothing to improve the offence and won’t sign Beltran (and now looks like he could be had fairly cheaply)
Beltran for Wheeler, why? will be Brian Sabean’s worst trade
Reigning NL MVP Ryan Braun has tested positive for a performance-enchancing drug: http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/7338271/ryan-braun-milwaukee-brewers-tests-positive-performance-enhancing-drug
Braun busted for PEDs!
knew, even though i dislike the Dodgers, that Matt Kemp was the real winner of the NL MVP last year
Awful. Regardless of how seriously you take the issue—just bad for the game.
bee did you always live in anaheim?
nope, i lived in San Francisco when i first heard about ilx
We’re 100% certain that Ryan Braun cheated and Matt Kemp did not, huh?
keithlaw keithlaw
Ryan Braun’s ISO in 2011 was .018 above his ISO over the prior four years, when he would have tested negative for PEDs at least six times.
i don’t think any of that changes that he’s still a total idiot for taking them, or taking whatever he was taking that elevated his testosterone
Positive tests for sanctimony upcoming
Interesting point, improbably, from Olney:
Braun is the 2011 NL MVP and there is no precedent for that to be altered, even if he’s suspended. The Baseball Writers Association of America has never stripped a winner of an award, including Alex Rodriguez, who has acknowledged using performance-enhancing drugs in 2003, when he won the AL MVP.
But that’s a stance completely at odds with the writers’ collective stance in the Hall of Fame balloting, in which voters have treated the history of Mark McGwire, Rafael Palmeiro, et al, as if it doesn’t exist; they’ve stripped those players of the accomplishments of their entire careers — and sometimes based on mere suspicion, as in the case of Jeff Bagwell.
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Ken Rosenthal
Source: Braun tested positive for a prohibited substance, not a performance-enhancing drug. More coming on FOXSports.com.
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
STONER
totes
go listen to your workingman’s dead someone where else, ryan braun—this is a family friendly town and we want nothing to do with your likes
I hope that’s the extent of it.
Olney is conflating a vote that’s already happened, MVP, with one that hasn’t, HOF. No HOF player has ever been removed from the Hall, and if a prospective MVP tested positive in late August or September, I think it’s safe to say he would not go on to win the award. I don’t see a parallel there. (And, as I’ve always said, I think caution in HOF voting—where there is ample time to revisit a player’s candidacy—is sensible.)
But my source — and again, this is from Braun’s end and not MLB — familiar with the test’s findings says the “prohibited substance” was not a performance-enhancing drug or steroid of any kind. And the source says there has “never” been a result like this in the history of the MLB testing program.
The source said MLB “knows that Ryan is telling the truth) and firmly believes the postive test will be overturned. Pretty amazing stuff, huh?
“never”
damn, i was hoping JS was, like, “jewish sentinel” or something
elevated levels of gefilte fish
trace amts of blood in his LSD stream
i thought there was no way i could like braun more (of course, that affection nosedived when i heard he was using PEDs) but if it turns out he’s a stoner... <3
y’all it’s not gonna be a recreational drug
what’s it going to be?
“the test’s findings says the ”prohibited substance“ was not a performance-enhancing drug or steroid of any kind”
i guess it could be some kind of medically treatment?
well idk i guess either report could be wrong at this point
i mean mlb hasn’t actually said anything — from what i can tell we just have dueling reports b/w espn & rosenthal
it would be an unusual turn of events tho — my guess is that it will be some sort of “supplement” or something that’s ambiguous enough for braun to escape heavy public scrutiny but not enough to get his appeal overturned
if he’s a stoner he’s off my must-fuck list
plus if “there has ‘never’ been a result like this in the history of the MLB testing program” it sure the hell ain’t pot etc.
# joe_sheehan
All this discussion of false positives and unfair leaks reminds of when A-Rod’s anonymous test result came out. Only the exact opposite.
i read that more as never before has a result like this been treated like this, but if you’re right that it means never before has a test result ever been like this than i’d guess it’s something medical related showing up
xp
But my source — and again, this is from Braun’s end and not MLB — familiar with the test’s findings says the “prohibited substance” was not a performance-enhancing drug or steroid of any kind. And the source says there has “never” been a result like this in the history of the MLB testing program.
i’d prob take this one w/ a grain or 50 of salt
this all bad news, but this line from the latest update on MLBTR has me loling:
Braun’s original test for performance-enhancing drugs was “insanely high, the highest ever for anyone who has ever taken a test, twice the level of the highest test ever taken,”
the testosterone level? or the presence of whatever the mystery substance is?
just how hysterically it’s phrased... “omg most epic substance intake evor!”
he was insanely high
Everything about this seems weird. Braun always seemed like a pretty smart guy so I don’t think this is just a case of “I can’t believe he was dumb enough to take PEDs”.
aramis ramirez to the brewers?
poor casey mcgee.
in the biggest signing of the off-season: the Marlins signed Aaron Rowand to a minor league deal
consolation prize for not getting Pujols
ha, what i was saying a few days back:
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-1213-braun-kemp-mvp-20111213,0,2301712.story
Dodgers’ Matt Kemp would win MVP award over Ryan Braun in a new vote
Times survey of 20 writers who submitted ballots with the Milwaukee star winning shows that the Dodgers outfielder would win by a large margin if Braun’s positive test for a banned substance is upheld on appeal...However, an official change isn’t expected.
“poor casey mcgehee”
This was a reaction to his going to Pittsburgh, yes?
Mets took another $40 M loan.
lol—yes, from bad to worse!
dontrelle to the phillies
very sad 2 me
front page of espn.com is a big picture of Prince Fielder but there’s no news, sigh
Alderson: Johan may not be ready in April
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/mets/post/_/id/37196/alderson-mets-need-pitching-safety-net
I wonder what year Ike Davis will come back from his hangnail?
dontrelle to the phillies
― mookieproof, Tuesday, December 13, 2011 1:50 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Permalink
LIFTOFF
red sox RELOAD with mark melancon and nick punto
i want to know who won the budding on Yu NOW!
Steven Goldman and Ben Lindbergh of BP are now in the BBWAA btw
Adios, Mat Latos. Padres got Yonder Alonso.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/12/reds-acquire-mat-latos-for-alonso-others.html
Edinson Volquez may also be going to the Padres in the deal. Remember when he was good?
nope!
Rollins to stay w/ the Phillies for 3 more years apparently!
so Mat Latos is now out of the NL West, that is good for the Giants.
still pissed off at my team and their horrible moves this off-season so far. the owners are broke apparently.
yay, Rollins is an essential part of the Phils’ advancing decrepitude!
SD got a haul for Latos. This trade is all in how it plays out.
Yonder Alonso can hit. I’m not sure he will hit for huge power, but he looked like a guy that knows the strikezone and had some composure in the batters box. The guy kind of reminded me a bit of Sean Casey.
I’d think like Harang, Volquez will probably get some benefit from just not having to pitch half their games in GABP. Volquez has pretty bad control, even when he is going good, the guy will burn 100 pitches in 5–6 innings to get it done.
Never saw Grandal or Boxberger play, but they were a 1st and 2nd round pick in the past few years. Grandal is a switchhitter and supposedly pretty good with the glove, but Devin Mesoraco was already ahead of him in the line to get to the Reds. Boxberger was already being talked about to possibly make the club in the bullpen coming out of spring training, so he might be on the Padres this year. Grandal is only in his 2nd year out of the U, so they might have him start at AAA or something next year.
I’ve only seen Latos pitch a couple of times. He was really overpowering on the Reds both times I saw him pitch. I don’t know if the guy is an ace, but he definitely has upside and time on the side for the Reds to find out. You either got to be able to strike them out or have them hit the ball into the dirt to pitch in Cincy’s field—as that place will give up the HR pretty easy, especially when it is hot outside.
i think it’s a really good trade for the reds — latos is a fantastic pitcher, and they traded two prospects who were blocked anyway
just seems like a fair trade all around, except for the part where the padres traded for a top first base prospect last off season
good trade — hope wieland and/or erlin work out for the padres
Cespedes Video II
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=15694