The Padres are offering major league players for Ramírez, a package that presumably would have to include one of two pitchers: prime setup man Scott Linebrink or ace Jake Peavy.
Hmm—bullpen dork, or ace starter? Which one do YOU want, Theo?
Yanquis have secured their own Japanese pitcher bid; evaluations differ:
Rumor has it the A’s are going after Piazza and maybe Cliff Floyd. I’m dubious about either rumor though.
Post-Thanksgiving Disgust: Texas A&M 12 Texas 7
Post-Thanksgiving Delight: El Caballo + The Woodrow
God if Beckett could get his shit together so much of this would be easier.
Wait till the dude shits the bed this season before reharshing his buzz!
MR GLAVINE, WHATS UP??
so apparently he’s still a Met?
lol this would be awesome:
Shea at The Stadium?
Dec 1—Shea Hillenbrand’s agent tells the New York Post that the Yankees are interested in Hillenbrand, a right-handed hitter, as a first baseman.
“We are having discussions, and [the Yankees] are one of the teams in the mix,” agent Dan Lozano told the newspaper. “We aren’t as far along as we would like with all the teams but hopefully in the next couple of days we will have something.”
Hillenbrand, according to the newspaper, might be willing to accept a two-year deal.
Hillenbrand, according to the the newspaper, would be willing to play for a sandwich esp. one made with nice bread.
Hillenbrand, according to the newspaper, would be ready an’ willing to reach for the sun, so he can get him some loving before he’s gone.
Sheehan (free articles) previews winter meetings:
http://baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=5735
http://baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=5738
Down Frank Catalanotto, up Frank Thomas and Royce Clayton. It’s a close call whether the Jays’ lineup or Fox News’ lineup lists more heavily to the right.
If the Padres trade Peavy for anyone other than a young, cheap, star player, I will be pretty upset.
Good point that has been lost in the shuffle of the “Where will Bonds end up?” bits:
This thread title keeps reminding me of Dairy Queen. HOT EATS, COOL TREATS. And promotional cap day at the Metrodome.
Terry Ryan is coming to the realization that Santana-Bonser-pray for roof collapse is not the best strategy so he’s going after FORMER ROOKIE OF THE YEAR! Jason Jennings.
i can’t wait for the JD Drew to Boston announcement so i can drive to fenway and take a steaming shit in right field.
Bingo, you say one thing about Drew being injury-prone, then I’m doing the same thing in your next bowl of cornflakes.
eh, im not concerned really about that...as trot was injured all the time too. im concerned that he can’t take the heat in this city. he’s going to get eaten alive if he dogs it, like people say he does. just not the right fit.
i don’t understand the red sox falling in love with Drew and Lugo. for some reason theo has had a boner about lugo for three years now.
for some reason theo has had a boner about lugo for three years now.
CAN YOU BLAME HIM?!?!??
injury-prone for Drew = mosquito bite on right elbow, out 4–6 weeks.
Maybe the Cubs can convert him into a pitcher.
Hello Mr. Cardinal Fan—the dude BLEW OUT HIS KNEE. That’s a sticky wicket to clean. And if it wasn’t for him getting HIT ON THE WRIST WITH A PITCH (a thing that’s done damage to men much meatier & tougher than brittle ol’ JD), he’d have 140+ games to his credit over the past 3 years.
haha ‘Drew has the numbers but he’s no gamer’ makes Billy Beaners cry. The logic for replacing headcase Manny with glass-jaw J.D. is pretty iffy.
Hello Mr. Cardinal Fan—the dude BLEW OUT HIS KNEE.
I’ve got a macro for that shit set up, BTW. DON’T GO THERE.
RUB ONE DIRT ON IT
OK DUSTY
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ys-mlbwmblog&prov=yhoo&type=lgns#drewboston
That’s a lot of money, but it still seems like a better deal than Sorianos.
Drew to Sox for 5/70. Dang. Still light years better than the Carlos Lee deal.
Is polyphonic around to comment on the Maddux signing?
The Maddux deal is a good deal regardless of how much money they are paying him. Maddux should thrive in Petco.
Plus it is for only $10m?!?! How could Ned Coletti not match that?
dude’s not old enough for the dodgers.
I think the only reason they didnt sign Maddux was because theyre going to throw a shitload of money at Schmidt and didn’t want to risk giving up too much. Im kinda pissed the Dodgers didn’t offer arbitration to get some draft picks out of it but apparently they were thinking Maddux would get $13–14M out of it. I think its a great signing for SD. Im gonna miss watching the guy pitch in person. There were some amazing games at Dodger Stadium in September.
Some interesting Drew projections:
Is polyphonic around to comment on the Maddux signing?
I mean, obviously I’m stoked. I don’t think he’s appreciably worst than Padilla or Wolf or Eaton and maybe is better than any of them, AND is only signed for one year. Then, maybe there will be more available pitching on the market when he retires.
The Padres have something like $25 million to spend. A rotation of Peavy, Young, Hensley, Maddux, Carillo could be the best rotation in the history of the franchise (not saying much), and they still apparently are interested in adding another starter.
i’ve got a nice steaming shit all brewed up.
ambiorix burgos to mets for brian bannister.
ambient burgers could be nice in a couple of years.
big HUH from espn.com:
A source at the meetings said that St. Louis and Kansas City are both going hard after free-agent righty Miguel Batista.
Royals = when pigs fly?
Apparently Dodgers just nabbed Jason Schmidt for some unspecified amount money.
Three years/$47m apparently.
I’m simultaneously gutted and elated.
oh shit Mariners, what do you do now?
CHAN HO, 10 YEARS, $90 MILLION.
Poor Tony LaRussa
I have no clue what that’s meant to imply.
That’s meant to imply Tony moonlights as a magical bunny wizard.
Well, aside from the obvious.
and the dead girl is Rick Ankiel’s career
A’s apparently got Piazza for one year $8.5m.
Irrelevant pic plz
LAKE BUENA VISTA, Fla. — Free agent pitcher Ted Lilly, who earlier in the day ruled out returning to Toronto, agreed Wednesday night to a $40 million, four-year contract with the Chicago Cubs.
Lilly’s agent, Larry O’Brien, made the announcement at baseball’s winter meetings.
Lilly, a left-hander, crossed the Blue Jays off his list Wednesday and had narrowed his possible destinations to the Cubs and New York Yankees, O’Brien told ESPN.com.
O’Brien planned to meet with Yankees general manager Brian Cashman on Wednesday night. It was not clear if that meeting took place.
Toronto continues to pursue free agent Gil Meche as a possible No. 3 starter behind Roy Halladay and A.J. Burnett.
Lilly, 30, has a career 59–58 record in eight major-league seasons with Montreal, the Yankees, Oakland and Toronto. He went 15–13 with a 4.31 ERA for the Blue Jays last season.
Apparently he said he wanted to play on a “winner”, so...
TS: paying 11M/yr for Burnett (in 2005) vs paying 10M/yr for TED LILLY??@?! (in 2006)
I’m starting to think that JP was a prophet after all.
Never mind that the single best contract currently in place is the deal that Tejada inked w/ the O’s a couple years ago.
Gleeman’s NBC.com Winter Meetings blog suggests that Schmidt screwed himself out of buxxx by settling for “Meche / Lilly” money w/ that Dodgers contract. Let’s remember the dude was signed for $47M over 3 years. WTF kind of world is it where GIL MECHE gets over $15M?
“TS: paying 11M/yr for Burnett (in 2005) vs paying 10M/yr for TED LILLY??@?! (in 2006)”
I like paying Loaiza 7M/yr the best. No one on the A’s boards think that was dumb deal now.
real ESPN news headline ...
Lilly strikes $40M deal with Cubs | Hendry has angioplasty
any correlation?
hahaha oh man
OH NO THE AGONY OF THAT SLIGHT
wtf are the Royals even doing spending money?
“wtf are the Royals even doing spending money?”
They still get money ya know? What are they supposed to do with it?
Haha I had the full intention of pointing at “Twins trying to re-sign White” as a sign that their free agency efforts are kind of sad and then I scroll down and see THIS:
The Twins have spoken with the agents for righthander Sidney Ponson, a career 80–96 pitcher who was 4–5 with a 6.25 ERA last season in stints with the Yankees and Cardinals, both of whom released him. He was 17–12, 3.75 in 2003 with Baltimore and San Francisco. The Twins likely would sign him to a minor league deal with an invitation to spring training.
AAAAGH AAAGH AGH
I don’t get why the Twins didn’t try to get Piazza.
Then again I didn’t understand why they didn’t try for Thomas last year either.
I don’t get why the Twins didn’t try to get Piazza.
We need all that $$$ for quality pitching, which apparently involves helping Dennys Reyes feel better about his weight by signing someone even fatter.
Then again I didn’t understand why they didn’t try for Thomas last year either.
Frank Thomas + turf = problems.
“Frank Thomas + turf = problems.”
Tell JP that *cough*.
I’m starting to think that JP was a prophet after all.
Any GM that signed a player to a bad contract prior to this offseason looks like a genius.
What The Royals Should Do With Their Money (Which They Still Get, So What Else Can They Do):
1) Invest in their farm system.
2) Keep away from the mid-level starting pitcher free agent market.
3) Rent the services of multiple bodyguards for Alex Gordon.
4) Bring Rush Limbaugh back into the fold as the Grand Royal With Cheese.
5) Have Tony Muser killed, then brought back to life as a zombie.
6) Have Undead Tony Muser kill Allard Baird.
7) Turn Mike Sweeney into sharkbait.
8) Post Angel Berroa’s ROY trophy on eBay.
9) Buy Bob Hamelin & Ken Harvey a Monte Cristo each.
jp was the basketball coach at my first high school. real douchebag.
i can’t stand him. what a miserable gm.
And now it looks like he might be trading Wells :(
at least he’s still better than GORD Ash
Why would you want to attempt to sign a more-than-solid defensive / offensive OF from yr own system to a multi-year contract when you can overpay for gimpy 3Bers or slow-as-death DHes?
Well, Rumor Central says that he’s expecting 20mil per season, and probably for at least six seasons. Plus, the assumption is that he doesn’t want to re-sign there anyway.
Wells for Penny, Kemp and let’s say Billingsley? I mean, you’d pretty much have to take that deal if you’re JP.
at least he’s still better than GORD Ash
?!
wanna compare ash’s draft history to jp’s?
I don’t think Wells is old enough for Colletti.
Ha—I think y’all did compare Ash v. JP draft-wise once upon a time.
ILX COME BACK WE MISS YOU (and I have rocks in my ass).
We did? Was it really that bad???
Maybe the convo boiled down to “lol @ Russ Adams,” but I’m pretty sure something happened.
Wrong thread, but I’m not going to start a new on the the Sandbox:
While with the Cubs, Alfonseca was thrown out of a game on September 2, 2003, for hitting an umpire with his stomach.
WAHT.
I think thids is the “WAHT” part:
His nickname is “El Pulpo” or “The Octopus”. He has six fingers on each hand and six toes on each foot, a condition known as polydactyly; his extra small fingers next to his pinky have no influence on his pitching, as they don’t touch the ball.
“Six Finger” Alfonseca is relatively common knowledge. I’m wondering if he bopped an ump with his stomach.
In other news, surprising no one, Bonds re-signs with Giants.
gord ash drafted: halladay, hudson, wells, michael young, rios, reed johnson, dustin mcgowan, brandon league, craig wilson, billy koch, casey blake, jay gibbons and vinnie chulk.
jp’s highlights so far: russ adams, david bush, aaron hill and adam lind.
admittedly it’s not exactly fair to compare 95–01 guys to those from 02–05, but that’s still a pretty damning dropoff.
okay mariners are dumb pt 124 rafael soriano for Horacio Ramirez
GAHAHAH WTF @ SEATTLE
11 MIL A YEAR FOR MECHE, WTF
Thanks for reading the thread, Morbs!
gord ash drafted: halladay, hudson, wells, michael young, rios, reed johnson, dustin mcgowan, brandon league, craig wilson, billy koch, casey blake, jay gibbons and vinnie chulk.
jp’s highlights so far: russ adams, david bush, aaron hill and adam lind.
OK, this is silly. Young didn’t come up in the J’s org, and the last nine names are unproven/fouth OF/burnouts (koch), with the possible exception of Blake. The Jays were a shittier team when Ash ran the club, and therefore they could draft earlier and get more can’t-miss prospects. It didn’t take a genius to pick Vernon Wells fifth overall. Meanwhile, we won’t know how JP’s picks (which included a lot of impressive Sept 2006 callups) turn out for a few years yet.
Gord Ash banked on rejects from last-place Pittsburgh (Carlos Garcia, Orlando Merced, yeah WHO DEY) to push the team over the edge from mediocrity, and signed 190-year old Ruben Sierra because he didn’t think Shawn Green was ready for the big leagues (even though it was his third full season with the club). His best trade was Plesac-Tony Batista, which looked like an absolute steal at the time but then again, only a couple of years later, Batista was gone and Plesac was resigned.
The biggest transaction that occured during Ash’s tenure was the free-agent signing of Clemens, and he had nothing to do with it (club president Paul Beeston did all the work).
The player that best represents Ash’s tenure with the J’s for me:
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Damn temporary nuilx!
okay mariners are dumb pt 124 rafael soriano for Horacio Ramirez
Well, they replaced Meche for a lot less than $11 million, and I’m not sure he’s any worse!
But they traded their 2nd-best (if not best) bullpen arm for rotational filler! That’s just duhbumbum.
OTM. That Mariners trade was terrible, regardless of the Meche outcome.
Rotational filler costs 10mil per year, haven’t you guys been paying attention.
I hate numbers.
Pettite to Yankees for $16M.
YES!
Clemens next? Then Jesse Orosco.
THANK GOD they signed someone that knows how to win in the postseason.
Bring back Irabu!
poor casey mcgee.
in the biggest signing of the off-season: the Marlins signed Aaron Rowand to a minor league deal
consolation prize for not getting Pujols
ha, what i was saying a few days back:
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-1213-braun-kemp-mvp-20111213,0,2301712.story
Dodgers’ Matt Kemp would win MVP award over Ryan Braun in a new vote
Times survey of 20 writers who submitted ballots with the Milwaukee star winning shows that the Dodgers outfielder would win by a large margin if Braun’s positive test for a banned substance is upheld on appeal...However, an official change isn’t expected.
“poor casey mcgehee”
This was a reaction to his going to Pittsburgh, yes?
Mets took another $40 M loan.
lol—yes, from bad to worse!
dontrelle to the phillies
very sad 2 me
front page of espn.com is a big picture of Prince Fielder but there’s no news, sigh
Alderson: Johan may not be ready in April
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/mets/post/_/id/37196/alderson-mets-need-pitching-safety-net
I wonder what year Ike Davis will come back from his hangnail?
dontrelle to the phillies
― mookieproof, Tuesday, December 13, 2011 1:50 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Permalink
LIFTOFF
red sox RELOAD with mark melancon and nick punto
i want to know who won the budding on Yu NOW!
Steven Goldman and Ben Lindbergh of BP are now in the BBWAA btw
Adios, Mat Latos. Padres got Yonder Alonso.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/12/reds-acquire-mat-latos-for-alonso-others.html
Edinson Volquez may also be going to the Padres in the deal. Remember when he was good?
nope!
Rollins to stay w/ the Phillies for 3 more years apparently!
so Mat Latos is now out of the NL West, that is good for the Giants.
still pissed off at my team and their horrible moves this off-season so far. the owners are broke apparently.
yay, Rollins is an essential part of the Phils’ advancing decrepitude!
SD got a haul for Latos. This trade is all in how it plays out.
Yonder Alonso can hit. I’m not sure he will hit for huge power, but he looked like a guy that knows the strikezone and had some composure in the batters box. The guy kind of reminded me a bit of Sean Casey.
I’d think like Harang, Volquez will probably get some benefit from just not having to pitch half their games in GABP. Volquez has pretty bad control, even when he is going good, the guy will burn 100 pitches in 5–6 innings to get it done.
Never saw Grandal or Boxberger play, but they were a 1st and 2nd round pick in the past few years. Grandal is a switchhitter and supposedly pretty good with the glove, but Devin Mesoraco was already ahead of him in the line to get to the Reds. Boxberger was already being talked about to possibly make the club in the bullpen coming out of spring training, so he might be on the Padres this year. Grandal is only in his 2nd year out of the U, so they might have him start at AAA or something next year.
I’ve only seen Latos pitch a couple of times. He was really overpowering on the Reds both times I saw him pitch. I don’t know if the guy is an ace, but he definitely has upside and time on the side for the Reds to find out. You either got to be able to strike them out or have them hit the ball into the dirt to pitch in Cincy’s field—as that place will give up the HR pretty easy, especially when it is hot outside.
i think it’s a really good trade for the reds — latos is a fantastic pitcher, and they traded two prospects who were blocked anyway
just seems like a fair trade all around, except for the part where the padres traded for a top first base prospect last off season
good trade — hope wieland and/or erlin work out for the padres
Cespedes Video II
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=15694
dbacks signed jason kubel to a 2 year deal w/ an option, which seems like a terrible move
thanks for the analysis, earl.
huh
so the rangers won the darvish bid
really the Rangers? did not see that one coming
Texas eats Nippon Ham sandwich (stolen from Jason Parks)
well, lets all hope he turns into a disaster.
if he gets $15m a year (which seems likely), the Rangers will essentially have paid about $23-$24m per year over 6 years for this guy? for that to work out, he’d have to be worth about 6 WAR per year. the only pitchers worth that much in 2011 were Sabathia, Halladay, Lee, Kershaw, Verlander, and Haren (though C.J. Wilson was very close). that’s a hell of a projection
yeah, it’s a lot
well, lets all hope he turns into a disaster.
Go Jays!
ha ha! watching the J’s msg board going mental this morning was good for a laugh.
having lived through the matsuzaka posting i’m v. sorry for jays fans
pourquoi?
eh checking msg boards every 5 mins, tons of misinformation and confusion, but sox came out on top and jays didn’t (assuming yall were pro-darvish). it was just a really exciting and happy moment to be a fan. of course then we saw matsuzaka pitch.
yuni -> back with the royals!
also it is being reported that the mets, in a cost-cutting move, are abandoning their rookie-level appalachian league team in kingsport, tennessee. (i can’t imagine that this saves a tremendous amount of money, but whatever.)
the appy league president claims to know nothing of this (which is totally feasible, because it’s the appy league). also, it would drop the number of affiliated minor league clubs to 159 when the bargaining agreement requires 160.
lol at everyone, basically
wow, it must be so agonizing as a Royals fan if Yuni winds up being the starting SS this year. just when they thought he was out...
I’ll be really surprised if the money for Darvish really pays off in quality pitching. I suppose it raises the Rangers rep over seas, but really outside of Hideo Nomo has any of these Japanese pitchers been really that good? Nomo struggled with injuries but he put up a few good seasons.
dice-k was 18–2 or w/e right? i wouldnt put it outside the realm of possibility he could be at least serviceable esp as an innings eater if he can somewht get a hold of his control in the future
eh that season was insanely weird and lucky; also he only pitched 167 innings and could never go deep into games so innings eater is kind of wishful thinking.
taking sides: dicek or lackey
oh god just kill me
this is most likely a somewhat-to-epic overpay—but, on paper, this guy looks even better than Dice-K.
for what it’s worth.
hey mook, the NYT sez it’s the Gulf Coast team the Mets wanna cut.
that is true
it’s not an absurd move baseball-wise — they still have two other short-season teams — but the money being saved is a drop in the bucket
australian baseball league all-star game is now on mlb network live
Was it Dice-K (pre-posting) that one of the BP guys was claiming had some magical never-before-seen pitch?
yeah that was the whole gyroball thing
world 8, australia 5
sydney blue sox dh tyler collins with a key three-run blast
“I suppose it raises the Rangers rep over seas, but really outside of Hideo Nomo has any of these Japanese pitchers been really that good?”
Kazuhiro Sasaki was pretty good, but he was a reliever.
i’m still waiting for that freakishly overpaid Yankees minor leaguer to get his second shot!
@rustindodd Royals believe addition of Betancourt as UTL guy could allow them to carry 8 relievers at times.
brian cashman and the yankees no longer have kei igawa to kick around, as his contract has ended. they also no longer have $46m loooool
career major league era: 6.66
that whole thing is weird — he could’ve become a pretty okay bullpen pitcher, even just as a lefty/lefty guy
i think they honestly hated him, first because his suckiness pointed out their horrible blunder, then because he wouldn’t just quit and go back to japan. i’m surprised they didn’t send him to class a charleston
holy shit—i totally forgot about him!
they could have traded him, right? (if they only agreed to eat a lot of salary) I’m sure a lot of teams would have at least worked the guy out.
@rustindodd Royals believe addition of Betancourt as UTL guy could allow them to carry 8 relievers at times.
UTL guy? He can’t even play his natural position!
Beltran iz a Card.
LoMoMarlins Logan Morrison
Maybe u could hook me up w/ a sweet fedoras 2 disguise me? RT @Kevin_Goldstein: LoMo sure gets a lot of attention 4 a LF w/ a .330 OBP
that was so awes
i was still holding out hope that the Giants would give in and sign Beltran. they give up Wheeler and lose Beltran and gain Cabrerra and Pagan, oh fucking boy.
“Kazuhiro Sasaki was pretty good, but he was a reliever.”
I completely missed that guy. If it is AL and specifically AL West, I probably don’t know the players very well.
LoMoMarlins
Just heard from my boy that Prince to Seattle is a done deal...
LoMoMarlins
Purple Rain & When Doves Cry are going to sound unbelievable this summer under the lights at Century Link Field youtube.com/watch?v=OjLG92…
lol, they are talking about Prince on MLB Network right now. Mitch thinks the Rangers, Larry picked the Dodgers and some guy named Dave picked the Brewers. don’t know who that Dave guy is?
I bet Torrealba is really bummed about his 66 day ban in Venezuelan ball.
With the stadium sitting in the shadows of the Atlantic Ocean, the organization feels it is only natural to display a couple of aquariums. What will make people take notice is where they are located.
Last Friday, two 450-gallon fish tanks were installed inside the wall behind the home-plate wall. They are positioned on the first- and third-base sides, and currently they are not filled with water.
The fish will be protected by shatter-proof glass, and the team has been ensured the fish will be safe.
“The reason this has never been done before, is not that it can’t be done,” Marlins president David Samson said. “It’s because no one thought to do it.”
In the early stages of building the ballpark, team owner Jeffrey Loria insisted to make the stadium mirror Miami.
After batting around ideas, it was decided to install aquariums.
With the stadium sitting in the shadows of the Atlantic Ocean, the organization feels it is only natural to display a couple of miami bass clubs. What will make people take notice is where they are located.
Last Friday, two 450 sq. ft clubs were installed inside the wall behind the home-plate wall. They are positioned on the first- and third-base sides, and currently they are not filled with miami bass dancers.
The clubs will be protected by shatter-proof glass, and the team has been ensured the dancers will be safe.
“The reason this has never been done before, is not that it can’t be done,” Marlins president David Samson said. “It’s because no one thought to do it.”
In the early stages of building the ballpark, team owner Jeffrey Loria insisted to make the stadium mirror Miami.
After batting around ideas, it was decided to install miami bass clubs.
:)
“The reason this has never been done before, is not that it can’t be done,” Marlins president David Samson said. “It’s because no one thought to do it.”
hahah this is such an amazing quote
david samson on signing a free agent:
“The reason this has never been done before, is not that it can’t be done,” Marlins president David Samson said. “It’s because no one thought to do it.”
The first time a foul ball rattles off the aquarium I hope the fish go crazy
the team has been ensured the fish will be safe
crazy—like they panic and escape from their tank and start attacking horrified patrons?
(all 200 of them)
crazy—like they panic and escape from their tank and start attacking horrified patrons?
That works for me.
that aquarium idea is seriously one of the coolest things any MLB team has ever done, Marlins games are going to be so neat on TV
bullpen shark tank—think abt it
I can dig it.
so crazy it just might work
yeah, i kind of like it
put it in the batter’s eye
Sheehan’s 10 predix for ’12:
1. The Marlins won’t get a playoff spot for their money.....
10. The Reds will win the World Series.
keith law interviewing with houston apparently
Greg Spira, sabermetrician and founder of the Internet Baseball Awards, died this week at 44.
Carlos Quentin to the Padres for two prospects: Simon Castro and Pedro Hernandez.
Simon Castro, a 23-year-old right-hander, was ranked as the Padres third best prospect at this time last year by Baseball America. Neither he nor Hernandez, a 22-year-old lefty, made the top ten this year, though.
middle-aged request: mention all teams involved, cuz right now I have no idea who Carlos Quentin is.
dude was (v. briefly) the white sox’s next superstar iirc
dude with good power and decent patience who was #5 in the mvp voting in ’08, good year in ’11, two mediocre years in between. should become a nice, forgettable 40 doubles per year guy in petco.
He probably would have finished higher in ’08 MVP voting if he hadn’t missed around 30 games near the end of the season (temper-related wrist fracture).