I don’t even know who you are anymore
yeah that girl sweetly singing “til the sweat runs down my balls” was definitely just exploring the melodic possibilities of the lyric for purely musical reasons
are you seriously arguing that people need to treat a lyric like “til the sweat runs down my balls” w/reverence and respect for the historical weight of sweat running down people’s balls
til the web takes down my tumblr
my balls are historically heavy
most ilx of all tho is the wandering eye rollers
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Thursday, December 29, 2011 1:36 PM (50 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink
yeah i don’t know who henrietta is but drive-by smh-ing is the worst
my bad
yeah that girl sweetly singing “til the sweat runs down my balls” was definitely just exploring the melodic possibilities of the lyric for purely musical reasons
are you seriously arguing that people need to treat a lyric like “til the sweat runs down my balls” w/reverence and respect for the historical weight of sweat running down people’s balls
― undervalued aerosmith tchotchkes sold in bulk, Thursday, December 29, 2011 2:08 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink
um no, not at all? my post was in response to resident devil’s advocate iatee saying “I’m not getting the sense they’re doing it for lols”
my stance: if you dont have balls, if youre not sweaty, dont sing it
it’s a feminist move, like aretha making otis’s “respect” her own
ya I’m just skeptical that ‘white college kids do a cover of a rap song’ is this inherently racist thing, like obv it can be a lot of the time but I’m not willing to assume it always just is. that clip wasn’t a bunch of kids posing and making gang sings. doing shitty covers of things is an important part of american college culture, see: acapella.
I’m not getting the sense they’re doing it for lols, they probably think their ‘get low’ sounds really good. I didn’t get that they were nec mocking something.
― iatee, Thursday, December 29, 2011 11:31 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Permalink
i really thought this post was shooting down the idea that there was any humor in the “Get Low” cover, not whether that humor was of a mean-spirited or racist nature
im happy to say that its inherently racist if that means that no one ever does it again
white college kids do anything is inherently racist
bringing this full circle was it racist when whiney went on stage w/ public enemy
I’m willing to go w/ ‘yes’
anyway maura’s thing about karmin chick looking kind of pained while she raps and then delighted when she gets to show she can REALLY SING, Y’ALL was a good summation of how this stuff inevitably has a kind of condescending attitude toward rap that’s not very tied to race per se
tbf whiney is an irl ‘public enemy’
maybe she’s looking kinda pained while she raps because she is a white girl who is raping
errr rapping
uhhhh
rape/rap jokes are terrible when done on purpose but the accidental typos are always classic
white college kids do anything is inherently racist
― є(٥_ ٥)э, Thursday, December 29, 2011 2:50 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink
fuckin lol’d
i like how lamp’s username looks whilst italicized
’s0 wasted’
“Wasted” being basically a ‘lol white people’ song to begin with makes that at least kind of thematically appropriate or meta or something
we need more videos of black college kids rapping bon iver songs
no we don’t need anything “more” bon iver
it’s pretty hilarious when kanye has charlie wilson dub backup vocals all over bon iver’s parts on his songs to make it sound as if he’s ‘soulful’
why do black ppl never want to bon iver?
i couldnt find it but there exists a p rad ‘rap’ version of bon jovi’s wanted dead or alive somewhere on youtube i know it oh im sure of it
Can we put together a sliding scale of how racist ironic comedy covers are? I’m trying to figure out if that Gourds’ Snoop cover is more or less racist than Karmin.
there’s just this really weird fuckin dynamic to me tho in white dudes on the internet doing the finger-wag about anybody doing a “funny” rap cover. (to the best of my knowledge everybody on this thread calling out texts from bennett is a white male.) it’s like white rap heads seem to think that rap = the whole of the black experience in America, and therefore doing a piss-take on a rap song is racist, which is a weird thing to thing—rap’s a black art form but it doesn’t stand in for blackness necessarily, right? (can, in the mouths of racists, obviously, but to accept that is kind of to accept a questionable premise.) and to conflate the two at 100% seems bizarre to me. I don’t contest that like 100% of “hilarious” rap covers suck ass, that’s kinda clearly true, but I’m with iatee, it’s not necessarily racism that’s at work there, and I think there’s a weird sort of...racism? at work in insisting that if somebody does a dumb rap cover, they’re being racist. which isn’t to deny that there are doubtless a trillion nakedly racist “hilarious” rap covers, I’m sure there are & fuck ’em all, but at some point ppl are going to have to accept that rap is the most dominant, most widely-enjoyed form of music on the planet, and that means that people are going to cover it in all kindsa ways, and find shit funny about it.
tl;dr some white rap heads sound like caricature “that’s not funny!” angry feminists about this kinda thing and I say this as a caricature angry feminist
i feel like there’s a weird assumption that EVERYONE calling these things wack/unfunny/etc. is agreeing they’re race crimes, which is really not the case.
er hate crimes
of course the very reason you can’t do a ‘sliding scale’ of Racism is that it’s a superword that once introduced into a conversation can’t be qualified or blunted the slightest bit
aerosmith playing white devil’s advocate here
This is the part when I get confused and wonder if ships got the sarcasm in my post or not, it was really just a roundabout way of reminding everyone of “hilarious” bluegrass covers of rap songs from jambands.
well i got that it was not a totally serious post yeah, but the way you phrased it got me thinking
aerosmith’s next post is going to be defending “pimps & hos” parties in frathouses
“i mean look, pimps and hos are basically the most dominant, most widely-enjoyed form of sex work on the planet”
cool
those are def the exact same thing
whiney a little defensive about being the white guy who likes to think himself permanently exempt
exactly the same
i think when i was a little teenage shithead i did have a laugh at the ‘soothing white announcer voice’ spoken word version of “Gin & Juice” but by the time the Gourds one was floating around Napster being credited to Phish and a hundred other bands i was old enough to be like OK enough of this kind of thing.
for the record guys me and aerosmith paid whiney $5 (plus tax) to come itt just to make our pov look better by contrast
but at some point ppl are going to have to accept that rap is the most dominant, most widely-enjoyed form of music on the planet
well, exactly, which is why predicating a joke on ITS WHITE PPL... AND THEYRE RAPPING! is really p racist and also stupid, like rap is hardly this outrageous and foreign thing to point and gawk at
guys like whiney have been pissed forever that rap is literally the most popular music in the history of the world though—it ruins shit for them and they’re gonna stay mad
the ‘soothing white announcer voice’ spoken word version of “Gin & Juice”
Dude, that’s the version on the legendary J0hn & D4ria wedding mix CD-R thread on 77 and no one knew what it was!
xpost, you got me confused with deej
like i think the white girls with acoustic guitars covers arent actually racist, if anything i kinda love them for their strange sincerity but the whole autotune the news OMG CRUNK HAHAHA shit is just nagl
well, exactly, which is why predicating a joke on ITS WHITE PPL... AND THEYRE RAPPING! is really p racist and also stupid, like rap is hardly this outrageous and foreign thing to point and gawk at
this is well-put
remember when that one indie white musician (bon iver? will something?) covered i gotta feeling
the ‘soothing white announcer voice’ spoken word version of “Gin & Juice”
Dude, that’s the version on the legendary J0hn & D4ria wedding mix CD-R thread on 77 and no one knew what it was!
― uncle bannmee who can recall his past logins (dealwithit.gif), Thursday, December 29, 2011 3:19 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Permalink
haha i think i only vaguely skimmed that thread once...i’m pretty sure i heard it for the first time in like 1997 or something though
IMHO it’s p much ok to assume all lol wites rapping covers are racist otherwise wed have to engage w/each of them individually
indie rock dropped the ball with no jewish indie all-star version of “i gotta feeling”
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coop otm, this is a situation where i feel pretty comfortable painting with a broad brush
i mean part of what is at play here is that acoustic or whatever covers of rap songs are such a heinous crime against art that “racism” is one of very few concepts that really approaches how truly horrendous they are
haha totally
um that seems slightly anti-rap...?
i basically hate rap
I think these covers veer towards racist when they go to great lengths to make it clear that they’ve “rescued” these “secretly great songs” from “rap crap” and put them to “real music”. Or maybe thats just rockism.
i mean part of what is at play here is that acoustic or whatever covers of rap songs are such a heinous crime against art that “racism” is one of very few concepts that really approaches how truly horrendous they are
haha otm
I came in to find out why “Texts from Bennett” was churning up so much dust in New Answers. I should have known the answer was simple: clusterfuck.
remember when that one indie white musician (bon iver? will something?) covered i gotta feeling
Jeff Tweedy iirc
that was supposed to be a lacuna
texts from clusterfuck
like obv the underlying production of rap resists being able to be co-opted by ‘musicianly’ means (and obv there has been a long long tradition of of disregarding hip hop as not real music bcz of lack of melody or instruments or etc) but to say that ALL acoustic covers of rap songs are inherently evil + unforgivable crimes against art (even if every single one up until now has in fact been; a dubious claim anyways) is to do it a real disservice and to deny one of the most amazing things about rap, which is the pop music universality of it that aero was talking about in his previous post
(thank Ned for no SB)
ll cool j doing “mama said knock you out” on mtv unplugged was so racist
mtv unplugged is indeed a shameful reminder of our racist past
reconstruction era mtv
real talk one of the first rap albums i ever bought was Arrested Development Unplugged. that’s so corny i’m almost kind of proud of it.
A GAME OF HORSESHOES
sry I am racist
I just listened to a black lady covering a jazz standard—it was terrible. I feel awful about that though.
i listened to ladysmith black mambazo cover a paul simon song. it was exquisite.
reverse racism
now thats what i call REAL MUSIC
She breezed through, “Why not use your mentality, wake up, stand up to reality” and messed up the meter of the rhyme. Still mad.
I mean REAL RACISM
reverse racism taste
chill,
I think these covers veer towards racist when they go to great lengths to make it clear that they’ve “rescued” these “secretly great songs” from “rap crap” and put them to “real music”. Or maybe thats just rockism.
Does this really exist? I mean hip-hop isn’t exactly easy to adapt to other genres without sounding “off” which I guess is supposed to be “hilarious”
Either way I don’t think this is racist in the slightest. Songs get covered between genres all the time and the results are usually terrible. IMO all the racism talk ITT is coming from the idea that it’s white people dealing with “things that black people do (?)” so it’s easy to call them racist scumbags w/o any thought whatsoever
Given the real pain and peril in the world, worrying about this is like getting bummed out by a pimple while the earthquake liquifies your street.
jesus h christ dude
but we can squeeze the pimple xp
message board people who are worried that other message board people are too worried about something trifling are like the kings of concern trolls
or i guess reverse concern trolls? i’m confusing myself now.
concerned
or just a little thick
sexts from bennett
You may refer to me as ‘Your Majesty’.
i mean really, everything that gets popular from Hootie & the Blowfish to Li’l Wayne to Nickelback gets torn apart by everybody, this whole “debate” is dumb as hell
yep, that makes sense
coop has a point here j0n A; i mean the ‘lol rap’ cover version thing does exist and there is an unsavory racist subtext within it bcz the lols are at the expense of certain cultural signifiers
THICK WITE RAPPING CONCERN TROLLS LEARN THEIR ONE WEIRD SECRET CLICK HERE SEXY
ya but this whole thing started w/ the ‘get low’ cover which was far from a lol rap cover
get lol