OH MY GOD, that piece. Someone braver than me please start the thread for that.
“As the faux gangsta turned b-movie clown Ice Cube puts it, eloquently and obscenely: ”If you’re scared bleepa bleepa, go to church’.“
Wow, I can see why people would protest over him being let go from his job.
anything that gets crunk hits into the homes of america is ok by me.
Dude, if you don’t like listening to Larry King (for all intents and purposes) earnestly raving about Crunk Hits, Vol. 2 on NPR, I feel sorry for you.
Hinder is better though. HINDER!
Haha or rather, “if you don’t like the idea of Larry King...”
I’m pretty sure that’s Mannie Fresh on the BG chorus, though.
that’s pronounced “little known artist BG” micc.
ahahaa: Xgau to Times New Media — Y’all bitches get off my dick.
(also, I have ballots for NEITHER poll at the moment. :-( )
i requested a jackinpop ballot and all i got was this pazznjop ballot. don’t make me use it!
also, xgau explaining crunk for the npr listenership was by far the best thing on all things considered today (otherwise full of jim baker saving the world or whatever).
I’ve had both ballots through. I filled out the Matos one. Much better layout and better categories.
i was hoping for a jackin pop ballot but it doesnt look like i got one.... guess ill have to make my own poll: poppin’ jack. SUCKA DOGG.
I’d completely forgotten about the BG song, which is sad because it has the best hook of the year (but otherwise isn’t that great).
No Jackin’ pop ballot for me (yet either). Maybe I will use my pazz n jop one.
Don’t let the New Times corporate weenies in charge of pnj HINDER your right to vote.
i got ballots for both. still on the fence about contributing to either (never voted in PnJ before). i kind of feel like participating in these things would be the last straw where i could never again pretend i’m not a rock critic. plus i don’t feel strongly about (m)any albums this year to the point that i really want to help boost their placements.
ahahaa: Xgau to Times New Media — Y’all bitches get off my dick.
Which kinda makes me wonder why he’s still bothering to send in a Pazz’n’Jop ballot (if he really is, as Harvilla’s e-mail implied). Maybe his desire to see Pazz’n’Jop live on after him is enough to make him put aside why it’s already “after” him. If his Consumer Guide was still around, I’d have a better sense of what he thinks of Hinder.
Yeah, I could it being beneficial to his Deanhood to feel like he created a sturdy institution that will live on well after he’s stopped running it or passed away or whatever.
I submitted the exact same ballot to both—here ’tis:
Amon Amarth, With Oden On Our Side
Celtic Frost, Monotheist
Ornette Coleman, Sound Grammar
Decapitated, Organic Hallucinosis
Deicide, The Stench Of Redemption
The Melvins, A Senile Animal
Napalm Death, Smear Campaign
Razor X Productions, Killing Sound
Various Artists, Total 7
David S. Ware, BalladWare
I submitted mine this morning. Slightly different to my Stylus list, but only cos I listened to Sonic Youth and Ali Farka Toure again recently, and jacked them up.
and you voted for Wildflowers in Matos’ reissues section, right? (xpost)
If you requested and/or expect a ballot and it didn’t show, email tips@idolator.com and cc matos@idolator.com so we can figure it out. We sent a lot of ballots out, and a few got lost. Thanks. (And if you’ve already emailed me and didn’t get a reply, it’s because I forwarded it to a Gawker person who can resend it. They’ve got the passcodes, I don’t.)
> and you voted for Wildflowers in Matos’ reissues section, right?
Wildflowers the 3CD or 5LP set of loft jazz? I didn’t know it had been reissued again. The version I have is from 2001 or so, on Knitting Factory Works.
Phil, did anything you hear for Global Rhythms almost make your list?
Yeah, Naçao Zumbi’s Futura and Mariem Hassan’s Deseos both nearly made my non-world Top Ten. I did include the NZ disc in the Top Ten I sent the Wire (which omitted Amon Amarth and Napalm Death and had NZ and Nachtmystium, but was otherwise the same as the one above).
Consumer Guide’s back at msn:
WOOT
Great news. I’m not the biggest Xgau-head, but it’s nice to think all the great work he’s done & the reputation he’s established is still worth something to somebody.
Yet to be submitted to either; let me know if I’m missing anything and please tell me how to narrow my 11 to 10
And, incidentally, if everybody wants to vote for Katamari on the Funk as a protest, I can certainly get with that. This is my third year votin’ Katamari and I’ll keep doing it until the movement takes off.
singles:
1 : Christina Aguilera—Ain’t No Other Man
2 : Gnarls Barkley—Crazy
3 : Clipse with Bilal—Nightmares
4 : Nadiya—Tous Ces Mots
5 : Prince—Black Sweat
6 : TI—What You Know
7 : Snook—Snook Svett Och Tarar
8 : Birdman and Lil Wayne—1st Key
9 : The Knife—We Share Our Mother’s Health
10 : NOMO—Fourth Ward
11 : Katamari Soul Trains—Katamari on the Funk
Some close calls:
Chamillionaire—Ridin’ Dirty
Ciara with Chamillionaire—Get Up
Common Market—Connect For
Esperanza Spalding—Mompouana
The Coup—I Love Boosters!
E 40 with T Pain and Kandi G—U and Dat
The Coup—Laugh/Love/Fuck
Ghostface with Trife—Be Easy
Elvis Costello and Allen Toussaint—Freedom for the Stallion
E 40 with B Legit and Stressmatic—Gouda
Weird Al Yankovic—White and Nerdy
Milosh—I’m Trying
Nelly Furtado with Attitude—Afraid
Rascal Flatts—What Hurts the Most
Lady Sovereign—Love Me or Hate Me (Missy Elliott Remix)
Alex Lilly and Colorforms—Green and White Stripes
Beyonce—Get Me Bodied
Bertine Zetlitz—500
Rodrigo y Gabriela—Orion
Rick Ross—Hustlin’
Ratatat—Wildcat
The Gossip—Standing in the Way of Control
J Dilla—Last Donut of the Night
J*Davey—Mr. Mister
Beyonce—Green Light
Cassie—Me and You
Jay Z with Usher and Pharrell—Anything
Lenine—Jack Soul Brasiliero
Malcolm Holcombe—Not Forgotten
TI with UGK—Front Back
albums
1 : Common Market—Common Market
2 : Tom Ze—Estudando O Pagode
3 : Theo Bleckmann and Fumio Yasuda—Las Vegas Rhapsody: The Night They Invented Champagne
4 : Ghostface Killah—Fish Scale
5 : Final Fantasy—He Poos Clouds
6 : J Dilla—Donuts
7 : Girl Talk—Night Ripper
8 : Rodrigo y Gabriela—Rodrigo y Gabriela
9 : Milosh—Meme
10 : Sir Richard Bishop—Fingering the Devil
11 : TI—King
Some close calls:
Lady Sovereign—Public Warning
The Del McCoury Band—The Company We Keep
Nellie McKay—Pretty Little Head
Clipse—Hell Hath No Fury
Abigail Washburn—The Sparrow Quartet EP
Beyonce—BDay
Jake Shimabukuro—Gently Weeps
The Knife—Silent Shout
Psapp—The Only Thing I Ever Wanted
Lenine—Lenine
NOMO—Newtones
Nuru Kane—Sigil
The Streets—The Hardest Way to Make an Easy Living
Lil Wayne—Any of about six street tapes...
Prince—3121
Rick Ross—Port of Miami
Tengir Too—Mountain Music of Kyrgyzstan: Music of Central Asia v. 1
I would LOVE to engage in a round robin mailing of best of discs (either/or singles and/or albums) if anyones up for it.
As a for instance, I haven’t heard anything on Phil’s list and would really like to... heard nothing but good on the Ornette and Ware and enjoyed seeing Celtic Frost live this year.
I could kick myself for forgetting Tortoise on the re-issues ballot.
Common Market causes me unseemly amounts of angst. Every backpacker and local scene dude I know has tried to shove them down my throat. I’ve been stuck seeing them twice and the only enjoyment I got out of either was bemusement at the man-goat’s beard.
(Sorry to tear down your heroes, Tofu. I’m such a killjoy.)
Tofu our lists are going to share some common items, but why isn’t T.I. up in the top ten? I’m still going back and forth on my lists, going down to the wire, etc.
Rodney: CM are pretty much unknown in NYC; I heard ‘GDang Diggy’ on the overhead in a record store and bought it on the spot. “Heroes” is a bit much, but there’s not a track on the album that I can think of that isn’t worthwhile and I think I ultimately like this album better than the new Coup, if only just barely. Don’t know if I’d be in any rush to see em live, though.
Matt, that top 11 isn’t really organized by value; I think the TI is in the top ten. Just can’t figure out what to prune.
For reissues, I have the Fania series, the blue note Axelrod: The Edge and the Fats Waller three disc. What am I missing?
oh my top reissue is the bob wills box set, #2 might be the four seasons’ genuine imitation life gazette
I can’t decide whether “Achso” should be an album or not ...
“For reissues, I have the Fania series”
You got sent all of them and you’re listing them as one item! Can you burn me a few.
“What am I missing?”
Folk reissues, reggae reissues, punk reissues, African, New Orleans ... Who can afford ’em all or get sent them all...
I think he was looking for specifics.
I want to vote for the This Heat box set in reissues, but I never got around to actually listening to it. :(
i’m stuck on the “artists” category. what are you submitting? [i’ve got a few entrants—green gartside, scott walker—but not much else.
best reissue evah
i’m probably not gonna vote but i’d probably use that category for producers and people who do frequent collaborations/guest appearances. but i guess that’s only easy depending on whether you like a lot of rap. (xpost)
AL MAN UP AND VOTE DAMMIT
[I]i’m stuck on the “artists” category. what are you submitting? [i’ve got a few entrants—green gartside, scott walker—but not much else.[/I]
1. Prurient
2. T.I.
3. Grizzly Bear
4. P.O.S.
5. Ecstatic Sunshine
as I kind of indicated upthread, I’m giving myself another year to figure out whether writing ‘real’ music crit is something I want to take more seriously or more like a habit I want to kick, and in the meantime don’t want to commit to any P&J or P&J-like activities that would further confirm my critic status. besides the fact that there’s not much music I really liked this year that’s enough of an underdog to really want to champion and help their odds in these polls. and that I have no dog in the pro- or anti-New Times fight and am happy to back neither. (xpost)
I left my artists section blank, not having been happy with any permutation of names I’d put in there.
another suggestion: fill ‘artists’ field with people who didn’t put out any music this year but whom you still support, should they release anything any time soon
i think i have come to the conclusion that it’s a relief to not do pazz & jop. more and more it felt like a chore cuz i am so out of it current single/album-wise. and when i contributed comments and stuff i kinda only did it cuz i contributed to the actual paper, you know, and now that i don’t, i don’t think it really matters if my token votes get thrown in with all the other stuff that i would never want to hear. i’m just not very listy. i never got matos’s thing. but that’s okay too, cuzza the above. i’m happy just contributing to Decibel’s poll. i write for them every month and i’m just more interested in that stuff to begin with. plus, that’s what i hear the most, so i feel like i have more of an actual opinion.
is the LCD considered single for Jackin’ Pop?
x-post
I saw a Hinder video on VH1 this morning. Ugh.
I did not buy enough or get sent enough reissues this year. Should I believe the hype on Karen Dalton:
“The late Dalton has been the muse for many folk rock geniuses... Her timeless, aching, blues-soaked, Native American spirit inspired multiple musical generations: Bob Dylan: ”Karen had a voice like Billie Holiday’s and played the guitar like Jimmy Reed.“ Nick Cave: ”She is my favorite female blues singer.“ Devendra Banhart: ”Without a doubt, she is my favorite singer.“
I would have contributed to PnJ if they hadn’t banned Matos, but they did. I don’t really want to be a music critic but I am one. I don’t want to care about all this end of year stuff but I do.
I could easily fill out a ballot of ten great albums by women, or ten albums in Spanish (and another for Portuguese), or ten records by people not based in the U.S., or whatever. The problem is bringing it all together. I might be up all night. I think this is fun.
Categories I will continue to neglect through ignorance/exhaustion: metal (even though “the best metal selection in the midwest” is five minutes from my house, I can never remember Skot’s favorite records when I’m there), British rawk, current country (I gave up this year), MySpace pop, gangsta rap (I guess T.I. kinda counts but not really, Chingo gets kinda gully on his mextape but not sure if I wanna spend a vote on an album that cannot be purchased anywhere, etc.), many more. Lo siento.
al my advice is run away now
another year or so and yr in michael corleone
In a moment of slight weakness, out of habit (and possibly boredom), I submitted my P&J ballot.
YOU ARE DEAD TO ME KELLM4N