so that’s the project matos was hinting at
martian, did you get the decibel list?
Well he did sample Fuckhead.
yes scott already blogged
Packin’ Jop?
I don’t see that concentrating on House-derived Top 40 hits of the mid-late eighties is an adequate substitute for J&P.
Jackin’ Pop—surely gawker media could afford a branding agency in NYC to come up with something more superior
will “the dean” continue with his pompous year essay?
i notice Jon Williams says: [on idolator]
Matos, have you given any thought to a web based home for this poll? It is important to have the results preserved for perpetuity and it’d be really cool if all the voting data were available so people could play with the data. I seem to remember someone on ILM tallying the female critics votes....
Answer:
Which is why we’re proud to announce the Idolator Jackin’ Pop Critics Poll. Edited by Michaelangelo Matos—a Seattle-based music critic and author of the 33 1/3 book Sign O’ The Times—Jackin’ Pop will maintain the Voice’s thoughtfully anarchic approach to music criticism, merging it with the technological reach of Gawker Media.
Gawker media / idolator will present the results—it’s surely up to matos to co-ordinate with the web monkeys at gawker on how to do this in a similar User Experience to previous VV P & J websites.
I seem to remember someone on ILM tallying the female critics votes....
HI DERE
glenn mcdonald is also the whizz with stats:
stats and big country b-sides. and words. god love him.
i better get my ballot in the mail soon!
Stuff YANK PLANKS New Media Inc; install MATOS to use SYSTEMS THINKING, ensure DARKWAVE placements are high enough: employ MATTY TALOR as statistical advisor.
Is the pazz and jop even taking place this year, or is that something that xgau owns and vv isn’t allowed to use anymore? Just curious...
LADY SOVEREIGN FTW
NO JORDAN, NO CREDIBILITY.
A whole new autotune.
re: Dj Martian:
I think my point was that something this important needs a proper web presence and not just shoehorned into a MoveableType blog.
The results could be placed between the “Electronic Downtempo Grooves, Electro Jazz, Broken Beats, Trip Hop” and “EM / Electronic Music/ Ambient/ Space Music” links on http://djmartian.blogspot.com/
“important”
Good to know that the Country Music poll at the Voice Media-owned Nashville Scene is still happening under Geoff Himes’ direction. Just got my ballot request today.
awful, awful name
I don’t see the distinction between a proper web presence and a movable type blog. I mean, it could be a *nice* movable type blog.
And people read Gawker. Lots and lots of people.
lol “thoughtfully anarchic”
actual presence, i think, means server-side app purpose built to tally/parse poll results into a bunch of different sample sets (based on artist, voter, etc.). movable type doesn’t do that.
Oh great. I bet this is just because I was bugging The Voice to let the people hear what ESTEBAN BUTTEZ thoight about 2006.
Well, fuck ’em.
actual presence, i think, means server-side app purpose built to tally/parse poll results into a bunch of different sample sets (based on artist, voter, etc.). movable type doesn’t do that.
waht? This poll isn’t being conduced online, only reported.
okay, fine:
parse/report
not a blog, a flexible information presentation.
Idolator Worldwide! It’s not a blog, it’s a movement!
okay, fine: tally/parse/report
not a blog, a flexible information presentation.
That does not make any sense. What’s more “flexible information presentation” than a blog? Would you like the results to be written on a slinky?
Am I the only one who likes the name? It really picks up on the whole vibe of “pazz and jop.”
I mean, maybe you and JW are talking over my head here, but this is a poll where you take a lot of opinions that are arranged in numerical order, assign point values to those opinions, tally them up, and report the results. This does not require programming knowledge. It does not even require a computer, except that the internet is really useful in reporting the results nowadays. Which is exactly what they’re doing.
xpost I like the name, too. The whole point of it is kinda that Pazz and Jop was also a terrible name.
They should have called it Spazz and Jap.
Racist.
Well, it could have been worse. I could have suggested that it be named, Nigger and Master.
Come now. Is that realistic?
where’s the excelsior thread when we need it?
What’s more “flexible information presentation” than a blog?
Something with a database backend, obviously. The Pazz and Jop polls list the albums and who voted for them, along with critics and what albums they voted for — all as static content pages. This could very easily be done dynamically or at least programatically to generate the pages instead of using static content. That also opens it up to showing which albums critics that voted for album X were also likely to vote for and create a basis for analyzing trends all within the main site.
It may be a small gain since the majority of people don’t care and like the same lists as a print version, but the ILM types and statistical obsessives would love this shit. A few people always end up doing something similar anyway, although if it’s on Idolator’s site they get more ad impressions.
Maybe we’re not on the same page. You can do all of that with Movable Type.
I mean, maybe you and JW are talking over my head here
OTM
Oh, fuck it.
What we need is the complete poll results in XML format.
You can do it with MT as static, published pages, or do you mean as dynamic stuff? I’m talking about providing people with search engine capabilities to compare data, not with coming up with a list of features and then churning out some content. I realize it’s a fixed data set once everyone’s ballot is in, but having the data in a stored format makes it easier down the line to pull together stuff for, say, Jackin’ Pop ’07 or whatever.
I’m really of the school of throwing everything in a database for mining later, though.
o. nate otm.
I have no idea why Alfred posted that, but I figured I’d help a brother out.
Thanks, Edward. I posted the photo wanting to make a lame remark about retitling the poll “Drrty Pop,” but you spared me the indignity.
The database is a given, I thought. You should have dynamic pages for a listing of what each person voted for, and everyone who voted for each item, with everything linked to everything else. Right? I mean, Movable Type is just an example. That’s not hard to do, anyway.
“results will be announced Sunday, Dec. 31st.”
Awww man. Once upon a time, Pazz and Jop used to wait until the year was over and critics did not have to submit their ballots until some time in January, now it looks like Matos will want ballots early. So much for any late December acquisitions...
name’s a little too close to jackson pollock for me. i hated that guy.
Did Pollock splatter paint on you, or did you just not like his jazz record collection? As for Michaelangelo, uh, that’s a different style of art.
On a slightly different topic, Michaelangelo Matos had an article in the Village Voice recently. I wonder if he’ll have any more there in the future...
o.nate/mh OTM
are you missing the point on purpose, kenan?
x-post
Hopefully Matos will be sending e-mails to Global Rhythms, FRoots, various rap magazines, the Beat, various Latin pop publications, etc. so there will be some votes for more than just Dylan and indie-rockers.
I think Matos is very aware of that. That’s why I’m really happy he’s doing this.
i hope it results in a more interesting grouping of albums near the top, though i suspect it won’t despite the best efforts of all involved.
That’s RACIST.
i hope it results in a more interesting grouping of albums near the top, though i suspect it won’t despite the best efforts of all involved.
Of course it won’t! If 100 people pick the Decemberists as like #8, it carries a fucking lot more weight than if two people pick something as #1.
exactly, it’s the middling “well it’s a pretty good indie record” consensus picks that seem to finish near the top. i think what kills polls like these (i’m going on the assumption it will have a similar result to whatever pazz and jop would have been) is the people who listen to a relatively small number of the hyped albums in a given year and then vote for the top ten out of that presumably small group.
are you missing the point on purpose, kenan?
NO! I’m really lost.
Let’s construct a metric for weighting people’s votes so that people with dissimilar (to the aggregate) preferences are weighted higher.
Battle of the Polls (although Christgau will contribute to both).
Check out this NY Times article:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/30/arts/music/30idol.html?_r=1&oref=slogin&ref=music&pagewanted=print
November 30, 2006
Meaty, Beaty, Big and Bloggy: An Online Poll Covets the Territory Once Owned by Pazz & Jop
By BEN SISARIO
If the rock critics of the world have a clubhouse, it has long been the annual Pazz & Jop poll in The Village Voice.
For more than 30 years, critics at magazines, newspapers and Web sites have contributed their Top 10 lists of albums and singles. Along with those lists came voluminous insidery commentary, all digested and analyzed in one monstrous essay by Robert Christgau, organizing the pop universe into an intellectually cohesive narrative. (“It’s Kanye West’s World, Franz Ferdinand Just Live In It,” ran the cover line for the 2005 Pazz & Jop issue.)
But in the wake of the takeover late last year of Village Voice Media, the weekly paper’s parent company, by the New Times Media chain, and the departure of dozens of Voice employees — including Mr. Christgau, 64, who oversaw the Pazz & Jop coverage and was fired in August — a rival clubhouse poll has emerged. And of course it is on a blog.
This week Idolator, a newish music blog owned by Gawker Media, seized on the outrage and disappointment felt by critics around the country who saw Mr. Christgau — and Chuck Eddy, the Voice music editor, who was dismissed in April — as a force of credibility and journalistic continuity, by announcing its own poll, Jackin’ Pop.
“For those who had long turned to The Voice to help guide them through the realm of pop, rock and hip-hop,” the announcement read, “the 51-year-old alt-weekly now had about as much musical credibility as, say, a three-month-old blog.”
The new survey will be organized by Michaelangelo Matos, a well regarded freelance writer who has served as music editor at the Voice-owned Seattle Weekly. (When New Times Media acquired Village Voice Media, it also took its name.) Jackin’ Pop will have some new technological bells and whistles, like demographic breakdowns of ballots, but will largely be modeled after Pazz & Jop. Mr. Matos, 31, said it was as much a homage to that model as a protest against the new Voice.
“Pazz & Jop has always been about intellectual music coverage,” he said. “There are people at The Voice doing good, smart work, but the overall culture does not smile upon it being particularly thoughtful.”
Rob Harvilla, The Voice’s new music editor, who will oversee the continuation of Pazz & Jop, disagrees with that assessment. “I understand the consternation regarding” Mr. Christgau, he said. “And we’re going to have to prove ourselves to the critical world at large. But I think it’s worth doing.”
Ballots for the two polls are to begin going out this week.
The Pazz & Jop model, with easily aggregated rankings and spunky, personal, bite-size commentary, is ideally suited to an online update; The Voice itself has a Web version of the poll (villagevoice.com), in which each ballot can be viewed and cross-referenced.
“Pazz & Jop was kind of a bloggy idea before the Internet,” said Michael Hirschorn, an executive vice president at VH1 and a former editor of Spin. “That kind of obsessive narrow fanaticism has been democratized and spread throughout hundreds of blogs.”
Though the Idolator poll (idolator.com) will be open to some bloggers — Mr. Matos said that anyone who writes regularly about music will be eligible — its main constituency will be professional music critics, the same old-fashioned, old-media elite who contribute to Pazz & Jop. This suggests Idolator is betting that readers are still interested in the idea of professional rock critics and their opinions.
“This speaks to the credibility of The Voice,” said Joe Hagan, a contributing editor at New York magazine who writes about the media. “The Voice really did have such an incredible run as a purveyor of rock criticism, and that credibility is gone with Christgau’s exit. It’s there for the taking.”
To nab that credibility, Idolator first offered the job of putting Jackin’ Pop together to Mr. Christgau. He declined, but said he would contribute to both Jackin’ Pop and Pazz & Jop.
While in other fields there are multiple critics’ polls, Pazz & Jop has enjoyed an almost unchallenged run since it began in 1974. (An earlier version was published in 1971, leading to the hedge of calling it the “31st or 32nd annual” poll, and so on.)
But based on an unscientific survey of far fewer rock critics than the 800 or so who usually contribute to Pazz & Jop — Mr. Matos said he was shooting for 1,200 — the presence of a rival is less likely to cause a rift among critics than a shrug, because of doubts about Idolator’s ability to match the quality and breadth of Mr. Christgau’s work and about the future of rock criticism itself.
“What critics used to do was catch the black holes of culture, things that are not adequately distributed or whatever,” said Alec Hanley Bemis, a columnist for L.A. Weekly, a Village Voice Media paper. “These days they get caught by bloggers far before those critics’ lists come out.”
As for Mr. Christgau, who now contributes reviews to National Public Radio and to Rolling Stone and other publications, he said he was glad to be relieved of the yearly burden of Pazz & Jop, which took weeks of laborious work.
“My wife was not happy that I was fired,” Mr. Christgau wrote in an e-mail message. “But she was overjoyed that Pazz & Jop was out of our lives. We hope to go to Puerto Rico in early January.”
Copyright 2006 The New York Times Company
competition, market forces it’s the american dream
It’s going to be like the NCAA, with the separate polls for sportswriters and coaches, leading to no one being able to determine what was “really” the best album of the year.
prediction: Dylan wuz robbed by some guy whilst robbing some other guy
leading to no one being able to determine what was “really” the best album of the year.
Like we were able to tell before.
i heart matos.
There is precedent for more than one poll. As I noted on a prior P & J thread, longtime writer Dave Marsh used to do his own critics poll with participants from around the world. He published the results in his Rock & Rap Confidential newsletter. His poll never got much media attention though.
Ooh, Christgau is going on a trip to Puerto Rico. Hopefully a long reggaeton and salsa essay from him will be in the works!
or 5 thousand words about the new Eminem mixtape
More likely reggaeton than salsa knowing Christgau (and knowing what’s hot in PR, to the extent that I do know that). Anyway, sounds like a vacation, so maybe he is just going to drink mojitos and leave it at that. (I don’t really know what a mojito is, but it seemed like the right choice.)
Mmmmm, mojito’s are White Rum, Lime Juice, Sugarcane stick, Mint Leaf,& ice or Soda Water. Cubans and Puerto Ricans’ both lay claims to them.
Will Harvilla let Christgau write an essay in the Voice P & J? I wonder how much space the new/current Voice will give anyone?
Yeah, the first story I heard on mojitos was Cuba. But I really don’t have a dog in that fight, long as my drink is cold.
ALL YR MUSIC CRITIX R BELONG TO US!
WTF nu-Ilx blowing my secret identity. HI DERE!
I still think they could have chosen a slightly better name
“Mr. Matos said that anyone who writes regularly about music will be eligible ”
Congrats, Paul Edward Wagemann!
Jackin’ Pop—surely gawker media could afford a branding agency in NYC to come up with something more superior
— DJ Martian
No, I think this is great. I hate Spoonerisms, really hate them, so the name Pazz and Jop always made me feel sick.
http://blogs.chicagoreader.com/post-no-bills/
A Music Blog by Peter Margasak
“I understand the impulse to create a new forum now that the Voice looks so stupid and clueless. But I don’t see a mass exodus of the old guard from Pazz & Jop happening anytime soon, especially when Christgau says he’s still going to contribute. Now we have two competing critics polls, but isn’t one enough? Most of us get some kind of begrudging kick from compiling these lists—Reader music writers will be submitting their top-fives soon—but the Internet has made the whole enterprise feel like overkill. What was good, even noble, about the Voice poll was that it aimed for a critical consensus, even if the consensus was sometimes mediocre. The zillion lists that will pop up on the Web over the next month or two (and I’ll surely produce a top-40 list for this blog) start to look like a comprehensive catalog of every album released the previous year, which makes the utility of lists questionable. And it looks like those lists are only going to keep propagating more lists.
Being that the Idolator is a Web-only publication, I suspect that some veteran critics won’t be involved in Jackin’ Pop—more out of laziness that anything else—and I’ll bet that if it does take root it will skew more toward younger bands; I doubt the new Yusuf album will turn up anywhere. My ego will probably guarantee my participation, if only to make sure Olivia Block gets represented, but I still yearn for the days when too much information was just that, not the current mental detonation every new Web page threatens to create.”
That is one grumpy post.
Being that the Idolator is a Web-only publication, I suspect that some veteran critics won’t be involved in Jackin’ Pop
People like this irritate me.
mental detonations, huh? how crass.
Grumpy, but he has a point; Pazz & Jop doesn’t serve exactly the same function now that things like metacritic and rateyourmusic exist. Those venues can’t deliver the snarky crit bits and Christgau’s impenetrable article, but will the VV?
How many posts will the thread on Harvilla’s Pazz & Jop essay get? Place yr bets now.
14
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Rob Harvilla’s Schools
Elkton High
Elkton,Maryland
Graduated: N/A
Student status: Alumni
Clubs: Mother fuckers were lucky I went!
That’s fucking ridiculous.
woah. that sux. seems pretty meanspirited.
really not very surprising by this point.
ridiculous x2.
another good reason to boycott pazz and jop
TBH I reckon a huge rig of the votes in favour of someone totally out of the blue* that showed the P&J/Christgau/Eddy agenda was alive and well would have been the best way forward, but ‘Jackin’ Pop’ is a pretty cool name, however long it lasts.
*Either that or a rush of votes on something totally shonky, like the Sandi Thom album.
oh, i just saw that Southern Nights got reissued this year! That’ll do.
For the “artists”, I’m gonna go with the “you can be imaginative if you’d like” theory and just list what I think impacted my listening and music appreciation the most this year... so ILX will be one of those on there. Youtube, too.
youtube, dude?
YOU ARE DEAD TO ME KELLM4N
I woke up this morning with the head of a dead juggalo beside me (the post-it on its forehead said “U ROT IN HELL KTHXBYE MM”), so try again.
Scott did you not get an Idolator ballot?
OK I re-read Scott’s post. One’s on the way.
i asked for one but then again i am not a writer, at least not a music one ; /
We’ve got Scott S. and Phil Freeman writing about international metal, and Phillip Sherburne is down in Chile writing about techno-like stuff on his blog and elsewhere, and Matt Haikunym writing about various international genres, but I wonder how writers/critics from the respective countries are being sent ballots? I guess it might take alot of work for Matos or Harvilla to find out who to send ballots to around the world, and translate the e-mail request for a ballot, or to make the writers do the translating from English and back.
Yeah, Utube dude. I found shit on youtube that I’d been looking for forever this year.
xpost im voting the lcd soundsystem in singles/tracks not albums
the form screws up accents! poor beyoncé i hope the votes for beyonc© still count
Everyone should do what that one rock critic did last year in his ballot and vote for nothing but singles. No albums, no artists, no pretentious blurb. Just a nice list of singles.
No one’s posting their ballots! Here’s my singles list (and I voted only for Joanna Newsom and Lansing-Dreiden for albums and only Big Apple Rappin’ and Sir Lord Baltimore for reissues):
1. Bob Dylan—“Thunder on the Mountain”
2. Peter, Bjorn and John—“Young Folks”
3. The Pipettes—“Pull Shapes”
4. The Rumble Strips—“Hate Me You Do”
5. Sally Shapiro—“By Your Side”
6. Lillix—“Sweet Temptation”
7. Wynton Marsalis—“Sparks”
8. Home Blitz—“Stupid Street”
9. Momus—“Frilly Military”
10. Lansing-Dreiden—“A Line You Can Cross”
my singles/tracks—still under consideration—waiting until the last minute to finalize:
1. LCD Soundsystem—“45:33”
2. T.I.—“What You Know”
3. Shareefa featuring Ludacris—“Need A Boss”
4. Sally Shapiro—“I’ll Be By Your Side”
5. The Game—“Let’s Ride”
6. AZ—“The Format”
7. Peter Bjorn and John—“Young Folks”
8. Nelly Furtado featuring Timbaland—“Promiscuous”
9. Fergie—“London Bridge”
10. Gnarls Barkley—“Crazy”
reissues:
1. David Byrne & Brian Eno—My Life in the Bush of Ghosts
2. Vince Guaraldi Trio—A Charlie Brown Christmas
3. V/A—Big Apple Rappin’
4. Weather Report—Forecast Tomorrow
artists:
1. High School Musical
2. Timbaland
3. the Knife
4. Joanna Newsom
5. “Weird” Al Yankovic
albums
01 ellen allien & apparat, orchestra of bubbles
02 paris hilton, paris
03 the knife, silent shout
04 ciara, ciara: the evolution
05 v/a, kiki: boogybytes vol 1
06 justin timberlake, futuresex/lovesounds
07 junior boys, so this is goodbye
08 beyoncé, b’day
09 booka shade, movements
10 scott walker, the drift
(tenth spot was rather wide open; fuckpony, e40, clipse and joanna newsom could all easily have taken it)
singles
01 ciara ‘promise’
02 cassie ‘me & u’
03 ellen allien & apparat, ‘way out’
04 pussycat dolls ft snoop dogg, ‘buttonz’
05 delia gonzalez & gavin russom, ‘relevée’ (carl craig rmx)
06 beyoncé, ‘ring the alarm’
07 ti, ‘what you know’
08 rex the dog, ‘maximize’
09 jenny wilson, ‘let my shoes lead me forward’
10 cham, ‘ghetto story’
(rejigged after i realised that it was almost identical to the albums list—wtf this NEVER happens!—hence no knife, paris, booka shade, justin singles; in retrospect should have voted for ‘irreplaceable’ but ‘ring the alarm’ is my jam right now)
artist
01 PARIS HILTON
02 ellen allien
03 ciara
04 gabriel ananda
05 beyoncé
ah fuck, forgot lindsay lohan as artist :(
I have to take EA&A’s “Jet” over “Way Out”
i’m stuck on the “artists” category. what are you submitting?
Timbaland is easily my #1, the rest I had to think about. Ended up with Joanna Newsom (because I often find HER more interesting than her album), James Murphy (to recognize “45:33,” DFA remixes), Owen Pallett (for Final Fantasy and also string arrangements for Grizzly Bear), and Gnarls Barkley (for being the media sensation of the year).
i had tim as my no. 1 too, but then i had a conversation with my brother about how much money high school musical made and i figured i had to give some recognition to the disney juggernaut
I keep tinkering with my #8-#10 albums. I sort of like that my saved ballot will just be automatically submitted if I don’t do anything before tomorrow: I can be passive about it, don’t have to ever sign off on the thing.
Nice to see all these Timbaland mentions, he’s on mine too. My number one choice was Ghost, simply because of their mindblowingly great show at Terrastock that I was front and center at. You can’t ask for better.
i just locked my ballot, but once it was submitted, the form emptied. i’m hoping that this doesn’t mean that my name will appear next to an empty form.
timbaland, scott walker, naeem juwan, green gartside and ornette coleman ended up in my artists category [not in that order.]
My top 3 reissues were the Hefner live album, the Hefner best of, and the Hefner b-sides and rarities comp.
the form empties because it’s locked.
matos is gettin’ cranky
j is gettin’ violent
shaggy is getting 2 dope
Hey Matos, is deadline Friday (as email says) or Monday (as site says)? Trying to prioritize...
My top 3 reissues were the Hefner live album, the Hefner best of, and the Hefner b-sides and rarities comp.
What’s the live one? The Peel Sessions one?
I have listened to fucking loads of Hefner this year, cuz’ve matters of the heart.
Monday. 3pm EST
Cool, thx.
the dalton is pretty fuckign awesome, well worth it, i think.
Packin’ Jop!
What’s the live one? The Peel Sessions one?
I have listened to fucking loads of Hefner this year, cuz’ve matters of the heart.
Yeah, except it’s released as “Maida Vail” rather than “Hefner: The Peel Session”. Dunno why. Still awesome though, the versions of “Greater London Radio” and “The Day That Thatcher Dies” in particular are just godly.
Stefan’s stats UPDATE 17/12 : BEST ALBUMS OF 2006 (NOW 74 EOY-LISTS INCLUDED) on Acclaimed Music Forum
http://pub37.bravenet.com/forum/3172289350/show/672646
still at number 1: TV on the Radio
BLAARRRGGHLE
I got Maida Vale the other day. Until I saw it in a shop I thought it was a collection of all their Peel sessions, rather’n a gig broadcast on the Peel show.
They still need a proper Peel sessions disc then. Maybe for 2007...
people who are talking about hefner (!!!) in 2006: die
Lex wants me dead = :(
Top 10 Albums of 2006
1. T.I.—King
2. Yo Gotti—Back 2 Da Basics
3. Spice 1 & MC Eiht—Keep It Gangsta
4. Boss Hogg Barbarians—Every Hog Has Its Day
5. Lil Wayne & Birdman—Like Father, Like Son
6. DJ Scream & D4L—Only The Crunk Survive 12: Kings of Snap
7. Young Dro—Best Thang Smokin
8. Killer Mike—I Pledge Allegiance
9. Army of the Pharaohs—The Torture Papers
10. The Roots—Game Theory
Top 10 Singles/Tracks of 2006
1. Trae feat. Z-Ro—No Help
2. Bo Hagen feat. D4L, Diamond & Princess—Wuz Up
3. Young Dro feat. T.I.—Shoulder Lean
4. BHI—Do It, Do It
5. Termanology feat. Lil Fame & Papoose—Watch How It Go Down (Remix)
6. Yung Joc—Dope Boy Magic
7. Project Pat feat. Pimp C—Cause I’m A Playa
8. Lil Yola—I Ain’t Gon Let Up
9. Ludacris feat. Young Jeezy—Grew Up A Screw Up
10. Unk—Walk It Out
Top 5 Reissues of 2006
1. Incredible Bongo Band—Bongo Rock
2. Lord Finesse—The Awakening
3. Horace Andy—Natty Dread A Weh She Want
4. Just-Ice—Back to the Old School
5. DJ Jelly & MC Assault—Bass Game 4
Top 5 Artists of 2006
1. Aphilliates
2. K-Rab
3. DJ Scream
4. Young Dro
5. DJ Toomp
Not enough Hefner.
After way too much
deliberation and thought,
my ballot is locked.
4. Just-Ice—Back to the Old School
Should have done this
Top 10 Albums of 2006
1. Killer Mike—I Pledge Allegiance to the Grind
2. T.I.—King
3. Mary J. Blige—The Breakthrough
4. Trae—Restless
5. Lindstrom—Its a Feedelity Affair
6. The Dogg Pound—Cali Iz Active
7. J Dilla—The Shining
8. Yo Gotti—Back 2 Da Basics
9. Papa Reu—Life and Music
10. The Game—Doctor’s Advocate
Top 10 Singles/Tracks of 2006
1. T.I.—What You Know
2. AZ—The Format
3. Prodigy—Mac 10 Handle
4. Omarion—Icebox
5. Too Short—Blow the Whistle
6. Christina Aguilera—Ain’t No Other Man
7. Basement Jaxx—Hush Boy
8. Big Mike and Six 2 feat. Young Bleed—Down Home
9. 50 Cent feat. MOP—I’ll Whip Ya Head Boy (Remix)
10. Juvenile—Get Ya Hustle On
Top 5 Reissues of 2006
1. Jiggs and Cheeks—The Don
2. Tom Moulton—A Tom Moulton Mix
3. Coughee Brothers—Collector’s Edition
4. Larry Levan—Journey Into Paradise
5. Slum Village—Fantastic Vol. 1
Top 5 Artists of 2006
1. Timbaland
2. T.I.
3. J Dilla
4. Will.I.Am
5. Lil Wayne
I’ll be honest I totally did the ‘top 5 artists’ at the last moment w/ no thought.
I also have no idea if what i voted for in ‘reissues’ all count as ‘reissues’ or not.
Man, I was going to finish this last night, but it slipped my mind. So, there’s an unfinished matching game on my comments.
okay so who wants the results?
haha psyche
after all, i resisted the urge to sell the pitchfork results to idolator
oops
STOP SNITCHIN’
3. Mary J. Blige—The Breakthrough
Real curious to see where the ’05 rollover votes put this in Pazz & Jop.
5. Slum Village—Fantastic Vol. 1
It’s surprising how this passed by with little notice.
yeah i definitely didn’t hear the mary j (outside of the 1st single) til mid-Jan.
Albums
Charles Mingus, Music Written for Monterey 1965 Not Heard . . . Played in Its Entirety at UCLA
Van Hunt, On the Jungle Floor
Mary J. Blige, The Breakthrough
E-40, My Ghetto Report Card
Tom Ze, Estudando o Pagode
Andrew Hill, Time Lines
Kelis, Kelis Was Here
Ghostface Killah, Fishscale
Basement Jaxx, Crazy Itch Radio
Lily Allen, Alright, Still
Singles/Tracks
Arctic Monkeys, I Bet You Look Good on the Dance Floor
Lupe Fiasco, Kick, Push
Morrissey, Human Being
OK Go, A Million Ways
Pipettes, Your Kisses Are Wasted on Me
Prince, Black Sweat
Rihanna, S.O.S.
Spank Rock, Rick Rubin
Young Jeezy, My Hood
Neil Young, Let’s Impeach the President
Reissues
Journey Into Paradise: The Larry Levan Story
A Tom Moulton Mix
The Tommy Boy Story, Vol. 1
What It Is! Funky Soul and Rare Grooves
Jamaica to Toronto: Funk Soul & Reggae 1967–1974
Artists
Andrew Hill
Mary J. Blige
Tom Moulton
Os Mutantes
Jamie Lidell
it’s the weakest mary record ever though outside the remix albums. i love the girl like crazy but i’m not getting the love.
my idolator list:
beach house, beach house
girl talk, night ripper
liars, drums not dead
yyys, show yr bones
clipse, hhnf
blow, paper tv
rapture, pieces of the people
supersystem, million microphones
camp lo, fort apache: the mixtape
think about life, think about life
lcd soundsystem, 45:33
snowden, like bullets
delorean, time breaks off
t.i., what you know
beach house, master of none
the clipse, wamp wamp
fiery furnaces, benton harbor
gnarls barkley, crazy
justin timberlake, my love
midlake, roscoe
ray barreto, acid
karen dalton, in my own time
tortoise, a lazarus taxon
pavement, wowee zowee
willie colon, el malo
For one hopeful second there, I thought you wrote your ballot to the tune of “Vogue.”
1. Girl Talk—Night Ripper
2. Keith Fullerton Whitman—Lisbon
3. Ghostface Killah—Fishscale
4. T.I.—King
5. The Melvins—A Senile Animal
6. My Chemical Romance—The Black Parade
7. Young Dro—Best Thang Smokin-
8. Prurient—Pleasure Ground
9. Lavender Diamond—The Calvary Of Light
10. Ecstatic Sunshine—Freckle Wars
1. T.I.—“What You Know”
2. Grizzly Bear—“Knife”
3. Young Dro—“Shoulder Lean”
4. Fergie—“London Bridge”
5. E-40—“Tell Me When To Go”
6. The Pack—“Vans”
7. The Clipse ft. Pharell—“Mr Me Too”
8. Busta Rhymes ft. Mary J. Blige, Missy Elliot, Rah Digga, Lloyd Banks, Papoose and DMX—“Touch It (Remix)”
9. Shawnna—“Gettin’ Some”
10. Kill The Vultures—“Moonshine”
1. Tropicalia
2. Big Apple Rappin’: The Early Days Of Hip-Hop Culture In New York City 1979–1982
3. American Hardcore: The History Of American Punk Rock 1980–1986
4. Jean-Claude Vannier—L’Enfant Assassin des Mouches
5. Harvey Milk—Courtesy And Goodwill Towards Men
1. Prurient
2. T.I.
3. Grizzly Bear
4. P.O.S.
5. Ecstatic Sunshine
1. Girl Talk—Night Ripper
2. Sonic Youth—Rather Ripped
3. Final Fantasy—He Poos Cloud
4. Junior Boys—So This is Goodbye
5. Joanna Newsom—Ys
6. Destroyer—Rubies
7. Grizzly Bear—Yellow House
8. Kaki King—...Until We Felt Red
9. Herbert—Scale
10. Hot Chip—The Warning
1. Panic! At the Disco—I Write Sins Not Tragedies
2. Nelly Furtado ft. Timbaland—Promiscuous
3. T.I.—What You Know
4. Gnarls Barkley—Crazy
5. CSS—Let’s Make Love and Listen to Death From Above
6. Sonic Youth—Incinerate
7. Justin Timberlake—My Love
8. Hot Chip—Boy From School
9. The Killers—When You Were Young
10. Lupe Fiasco—Kick Push
[No votes for reissues: I only heard a couple and they didn’t seem worth voting for.]
1. Timbaland
2. Joanna Newsom
3. James Murphy
4. Owen Pallett
5. Gnarls Barkley
nuts, I had the Vannier on my reissues list and then thought it was a 2005 (which, I think it may have been overseas?)
ah well, I forgot Timbaland, too, so it’ll hardly be my biggest regret.
1. Ornette Coleman, Sound Grammar
2. Girl Talk, Night Ripper
3. The Mountain Goats, Get Lonely
4. Sunroof!, Silver Bear Mist
5. Ghostface, Fishscale
6. Mossa, Some Eat It Raw
7. Amerie, Because I Love It Vol 1.
8. The Necks, Chemist
9. Liars, Drum’s Not Dead
10. Taylor Deupree, Northern
1. Amerie, That’s What U R
2. The Fray, Over My Head (Cable Car)
3. Justin Timberlake feat. Timbaland, SexyBack
4. Lily Allen, LDN
5. Erase Errata, Another Genius Idea From Our Government
6. LL Cool J feat. Jennifer Lopez, Control Myself
7. Gui Boratto, Like You (Supermayer Remix)
8. Mat Kearney, Nothing Left to Lose, Promiscuous
9. Nelly Furtado feat. Timbaland,
10. Surkin, Radio Fireworks
1. V/A, American Primitive, Vol. 2
2. V/A, Good For What Ails You: Music of the Medicine Shows 1926–1937
3. V/A, The House That Trane Built: Story of Impulse Records
4. The Dead C., Vain, Erudite and Stupid: Selected Works 1987–2005
5. John Peel and Sheila, The Pig’s Big 78s—A Beginner’s Guide
1. Ornette Coleman
2. Timbaland
3. Justin Timberlake
4. Robert Christgau
5. Fergie
albums:
t.i. “king”
bob dylan “modern times”
kelis “kelis was here”
nina nastasia “on leaving”
ghostface killah “fishscale”
lady sovereign “public warning”
boris “pink”
ornette coleman “sound grammar”
nellie mckay “pretty little head”
ooioo “taiga”
singles:
the pipettes “pull shapes”
t.i. “what you know”
beyonce “irreplaceable”
lil jon “snap yo fingers”
my chemical romance “welcome to the black parade”
beyonce “ring the alarm”
amy winehouse “rehab”
webstar/young b. “chicken noodle soup”
basement jaxx “take me back to your house”
chamillionaire/krayzie bone “ridin”
(i guess i liked the kelis/nina n./nellie m. albums more than most people did. and i think lady sov’s very good album is being unduly overlooked just because we all heard the songs a year or two ago. or whatever. for reissues i put down all fania stuff; if i’d thought about it longer i would’ve included this heat and the pretenders. i also feel bad for leaving the dixie chicks off the singles list, cuz i did really like that single.)
How I woulda voted (with albums & singles 10 points each, listed in no particular order):
1. The Rapture, Pieces of the People We Love
2. Mastodon, Blood Mountain
3. Booka Shade, Movements
4. J Dilla, Donuts
5. Ghostface Killah, Fishscale
6. v/a, Mary Anne Hobbs Presents the Warrior Dubz
7. The Coup, Pick a Bigger Weapon
8. Clipse, Hell Hath No Fury
9. E-40, My Ghetto Report Card
10. Comets on Fire, Avatar
1. Escort, Starlight (Darshan Jesrani Parks Dept. Dub)
2. Justice, We Are Your Friends (Lee Cabrera’s Lower East Side Mix)
3. Dondolo, Dragon (Shit Robot “Fire Breathing” Mix)
4. Gnarls Barkley, Crazy
5. T.I., What You Know
6. Termanlogy, Watch How it Go Down
7. Too $hort, Blow the Whistle
8. Ne-Yo, Get Down Like That
9. Quiet Village Project, Circus of Horrors
10. P.O.S., Safety in Speed (Heavy Metal)
1. v/a, A Tom Moulton Mix
2. v/a, Big Apple Rappin’
3. v/a, Journey Into Paradise: the Larry Levan Story
4. v/a, What It Is!
5. v/a, Jamaica to Toronto
1. J Dilla
2. Timbaland
3. Ornette Coleman
4. Ghostface Killah
5. Oakland, CA
In reality, “Crazy” shoulda been my #10 now that I think about it.
i was torn between crazy and ridin’ for #10. seemed like crazy should be acknowledged, and it is a sort of readymade classic. but i like ridin’ better.
bout time somebody else was feeling ‘watch how it go down’
I SEE MYSELF AS THE HOLY RESURRECTION OF PUN
And gay bingo night.
A lot of Night Ripper love; think it’ll crack the top 10?
termanology track is great but i felt weird voting for two premier tracks in 2006.
whoa excuse me three premier tracks!
premier is ‘relevant’ as anybody nowadays—the ghostface/clipse voting bloc seems more out-of-touch to me, name the only 1 from those 3 who had a hit this year
of course ill probly eat my words when pusha t hops on next years odd nosdam-produced gorillaz album
I’m in the Ghost + Clipse = top 10 camp (or at least the one that doesn’t give half a shit about Joanna Newsom or TV on the Radio or the Arctic Monkeys) but I kinda wonder where the universal acclaim was for Supreme Clientele or Lord Willin’ (which were kinda better albums).
premier is ‘relevant’ as anybody nowadays—the ghostface/clipse voting bloc seems more out-of-touch to me, name the only 1 from those 3 who had a hit this year
i guess this is kinda true, between these and the Blaq Poet cd he’s bringing it right now.
at least the one that doesn’t give half a shit about Joanna Newsom or TV on the Radio or the Arctic Monkeys
FRIEND AND ALLY.
“had a hit” /= “relevant”
I kinda wonder where the universal acclaim was for Supreme Clientele or Lord Willin’ (which were kinda better albums)
That was when Clipse and Ghostface still had legitimate commercial upside and so didn’t need to aggressively market to the indie kidz and associated publications.
And Supreme Clientele made quite a few top 10 lists that year.
Wu Tang’s had this kind of support for a long time, I just wish the album was good enough to deserve it. I mean I think Pretty Toney is great and dude was past his prime on that shit too.
‘past his commercial prime,’ that is.
I think the Clipse album is pretty good but every review I read seems to have heard an entirely different album than I did—see the major WTF on pitchfork today where someone compares it to GREEK TRAGEDY
And Supreme Clientele made quite a few top 10 lists that year.
it did, yeah. but i’ll speak up for whatever minority of us there are (maybe just me) who thought that was the overrated ghost album. all my years of listening to supreme clientele never made me like it as much as i liked fishscale the first time through. i even held off buying fishscale because of my suspicion of ghost-hyping. so, you know. milage varies etc.
No, I agree. SC made my top 10 in 2000 but I fooled myself then into thinking it’s the song-by-song masterpiece that Fishscale obviously is.
Few songs for me have lived up to the promise that their titles, lead and guests suggest; one that has was Ghost’s ‘Tush’ with Missy Elliott.
Goodness me, it’s pleasant.
From what I’ve read, “Tush” is one of the most divisive rap songs of the last two years. I’m a disco-rap/Missy mark so I’m on the proponents’ side. Apparently it hit #1 on Billboard’s Dance Charts, too.
“had a hit” /= “relevant”
Quite true all around. Now let me tell you how great the new Cure album will be.
Hi, Don Allred here, with a message for today’s youth: yall know if you go to our future overlords’ http://www.paperthinwalls.com get the real Best Of 2006 right now, or anyway you get lists *and* reviews *and* free music.
Why I’m downloading it all right now! (You can thank Idolator for a mention there...)
No ‘Crazy’, no credibility.
I think the Clipse album is pretty good but every review I read seems to have heard an entirely different album than I did—see the major WTF on pitchfork today where someone compares it to GREEK TRAGEDY
I really enjoy [i]Hell Hath No Fury[/i] and I’ve yet to see a review that ain’t trippin balls (Ethan’s “Mobb Deep with more backpackerish lyrics” dis is actually the best description of why it’s great that I’ve read!)
My take on it is that they’re a little remorseful and fatalistic on occasion but nowhere near as much as everyone says; the overwhelming feeling I get is that they’re trying to go for the Miami Vice version of Jack Nicholson’s Joker. Which I can see as being potentially annoying as hell.
(At least to some folks. I like it ’cause I like me some self-aware outsize dudes acting ridiculuxe.)
Oedipuss
the Miami Vice version of Jack Nicholson’s Joker.
waht
i have no idea what that could possibly begin to mean.
plz to not go lex on me w/firecrotch &c
Post yer ballots, fules!
I forget mine. You’ll see it if you want to when everything goes live.
dear paperthinwalls,
thanks for the tunes. that’s a real cool idea. i’m digging the mixtapes.
I think the Clipse album is pretty good but every review I read seems to have heard an entirely different album than I did—see the major WTF on pitchfork today where someone compares it to GREEK TRAGEDY
— deej
