OH MY GOD, that piece. Someone braver than me please start the thread for that.
“As the faux gangsta turned b-movie clown Ice Cube puts it, eloquently and obscenely: ”If you’re scared bleepa bleepa, go to church’.“
Wow, I can see why people would protest over him being let go from his job.
anything that gets crunk hits into the homes of america is ok by me.
Dude, if you don’t like listening to Larry King (for all intents and purposes) earnestly raving about Crunk Hits, Vol. 2 on NPR, I feel sorry for you.
Hinder is better though. HINDER!
Haha or rather, “if you don’t like the idea of Larry King...”
I’m pretty sure that’s Mannie Fresh on the BG chorus, though.
that’s pronounced “little known artist BG” micc.
ahahaa: Xgau to Times New Media — Y’all bitches get off my dick.
(also, I have ballots for NEITHER poll at the moment. :-( )
i requested a jackinpop ballot and all i got was this pazznjop ballot. don’t make me use it!
also, xgau explaining crunk for the npr listenership was by far the best thing on all things considered today (otherwise full of jim baker saving the world or whatever).
I’ve had both ballots through. I filled out the Matos one. Much better layout and better categories.
i was hoping for a jackin pop ballot but it doesnt look like i got one.... guess ill have to make my own poll: poppin’ jack. SUCKA DOGG.
I’d completely forgotten about the BG song, which is sad because it has the best hook of the year (but otherwise isn’t that great).
No Jackin’ pop ballot for me (yet either). Maybe I will use my pazz n jop one.
Don’t let the New Times corporate weenies in charge of pnj HINDER your right to vote.
i got ballots for both. still on the fence about contributing to either (never voted in PnJ before). i kind of feel like participating in these things would be the last straw where i could never again pretend i’m not a rock critic. plus i don’t feel strongly about (m)any albums this year to the point that i really want to help boost their placements.
ahahaa: Xgau to Times New Media — Y’all bitches get off my dick.
Which kinda makes me wonder why he’s still bothering to send in a Pazz’n’Jop ballot (if he really is, as Harvilla’s e-mail implied). Maybe his desire to see Pazz’n’Jop live on after him is enough to make him put aside why it’s already “after” him. If his Consumer Guide was still around, I’d have a better sense of what he thinks of Hinder.
Yeah, I could it being beneficial to his Deanhood to feel like he created a sturdy institution that will live on well after he’s stopped running it or passed away or whatever.
I submitted the exact same ballot to both—here ’tis:
Amon Amarth, With Oden On Our Side
Celtic Frost, Monotheist
Ornette Coleman, Sound Grammar
Decapitated, Organic Hallucinosis
Deicide, The Stench Of Redemption
The Melvins, A Senile Animal
Napalm Death, Smear Campaign
Razor X Productions, Killing Sound
Various Artists, Total 7
David S. Ware, BalladWare
I submitted mine this morning. Slightly different to my Stylus list, but only cos I listened to Sonic Youth and Ali Farka Toure again recently, and jacked them up.
and you voted for Wildflowers in Matos’ reissues section, right? (xpost)
If you requested and/or expect a ballot and it didn’t show, email tips@idolator.com and cc matos@idolator.com so we can figure it out. We sent a lot of ballots out, and a few got lost. Thanks. (And if you’ve already emailed me and didn’t get a reply, it’s because I forwarded it to a Gawker person who can resend it. They’ve got the passcodes, I don’t.)
> and you voted for Wildflowers in Matos’ reissues section, right?
Wildflowers the 3CD or 5LP set of loft jazz? I didn’t know it had been reissued again. The version I have is from 2001 or so, on Knitting Factory Works.
Phil, did anything you hear for Global Rhythms almost make your list?
Yeah, Naçao Zumbi’s Futura and Mariem Hassan’s Deseos both nearly made my non-world Top Ten. I did include the NZ disc in the Top Ten I sent the Wire (which omitted Amon Amarth and Napalm Death and had NZ and Nachtmystium, but was otherwise the same as the one above).
Consumer Guide’s back at msn:
WOOT
Great news. I’m not the biggest Xgau-head, but it’s nice to think all the great work he’s done & the reputation he’s established is still worth something to somebody.
Yet to be submitted to either; let me know if I’m missing anything and please tell me how to narrow my 11 to 10
And, incidentally, if everybody wants to vote for Katamari on the Funk as a protest, I can certainly get with that. This is my third year votin’ Katamari and I’ll keep doing it until the movement takes off.
singles:
1 : Christina Aguilera—Ain’t No Other Man
2 : Gnarls Barkley—Crazy
3 : Clipse with Bilal—Nightmares
4 : Nadiya—Tous Ces Mots
5 : Prince—Black Sweat
6 : TI—What You Know
7 : Snook—Snook Svett Och Tarar
8 : Birdman and Lil Wayne—1st Key
9 : The Knife—We Share Our Mother’s Health
10 : NOMO—Fourth Ward
11 : Katamari Soul Trains—Katamari on the Funk
Some close calls:
Chamillionaire—Ridin’ Dirty
Ciara with Chamillionaire—Get Up
Common Market—Connect For
Esperanza Spalding—Mompouana
The Coup—I Love Boosters!
E 40 with T Pain and Kandi G—U and Dat
The Coup—Laugh/Love/Fuck
Ghostface with Trife—Be Easy
Elvis Costello and Allen Toussaint—Freedom for the Stallion
E 40 with B Legit and Stressmatic—Gouda
Weird Al Yankovic—White and Nerdy
Milosh—I’m Trying
Nelly Furtado with Attitude—Afraid
Rascal Flatts—What Hurts the Most
Lady Sovereign—Love Me or Hate Me (Missy Elliott Remix)
Alex Lilly and Colorforms—Green and White Stripes
Beyonce—Get Me Bodied
Bertine Zetlitz—500
Rodrigo y Gabriela—Orion
Rick Ross—Hustlin’
Ratatat—Wildcat
The Gossip—Standing in the Way of Control
J Dilla—Last Donut of the Night
J*Davey—Mr. Mister
Beyonce—Green Light
Cassie—Me and You
Jay Z with Usher and Pharrell—Anything
Lenine—Jack Soul Brasiliero
Malcolm Holcombe—Not Forgotten
TI with UGK—Front Back
albums
1 : Common Market—Common Market
2 : Tom Ze—Estudando O Pagode
3 : Theo Bleckmann and Fumio Yasuda—Las Vegas Rhapsody: The Night They Invented Champagne
4 : Ghostface Killah—Fish Scale
5 : Final Fantasy—He Poos Clouds
6 : J Dilla—Donuts
7 : Girl Talk—Night Ripper
8 : Rodrigo y Gabriela—Rodrigo y Gabriela
9 : Milosh—Meme
10 : Sir Richard Bishop—Fingering the Devil
11 : TI—King
Some close calls:
Lady Sovereign—Public Warning
The Del McCoury Band—The Company We Keep
Nellie McKay—Pretty Little Head
Clipse—Hell Hath No Fury
Abigail Washburn—The Sparrow Quartet EP
Beyonce—BDay
Jake Shimabukuro—Gently Weeps
The Knife—Silent Shout
Psapp—The Only Thing I Ever Wanted
Lenine—Lenine
NOMO—Newtones
Nuru Kane—Sigil
The Streets—The Hardest Way to Make an Easy Living
Lil Wayne—Any of about six street tapes...
Prince—3121
Rick Ross—Port of Miami
Tengir Too—Mountain Music of Kyrgyzstan: Music of Central Asia v. 1
I would LOVE to engage in a round robin mailing of best of discs (either/or singles and/or albums) if anyones up for it.
As a for instance, I haven’t heard anything on Phil’s list and would really like to... heard nothing but good on the Ornette and Ware and enjoyed seeing Celtic Frost live this year.
I could kick myself for forgetting Tortoise on the re-issues ballot.
Common Market causes me unseemly amounts of angst. Every backpacker and local scene dude I know has tried to shove them down my throat. I’ve been stuck seeing them twice and the only enjoyment I got out of either was bemusement at the man-goat’s beard.
(Sorry to tear down your heroes, Tofu. I’m such a killjoy.)
Tofu our lists are going to share some common items, but why isn’t T.I. up in the top ten? I’m still going back and forth on my lists, going down to the wire, etc.
Rodney: CM are pretty much unknown in NYC; I heard ‘GDang Diggy’ on the overhead in a record store and bought it on the spot. “Heroes” is a bit much, but there’s not a track on the album that I can think of that isn’t worthwhile and I think I ultimately like this album better than the new Coup, if only just barely. Don’t know if I’d be in any rush to see em live, though.
Matt, that top 11 isn’t really organized by value; I think the TI is in the top ten. Just can’t figure out what to prune.
For reissues, I have the Fania series, the blue note Axelrod: The Edge and the Fats Waller three disc. What am I missing?
oh my top reissue is the bob wills box set, #2 might be the four seasons’ genuine imitation life gazette
I can’t decide whether “Achso” should be an album or not ...
“For reissues, I have the Fania series”
You got sent all of them and you’re listing them as one item! Can you burn me a few.
“What am I missing?”
Folk reissues, reggae reissues, punk reissues, African, New Orleans ... Who can afford ’em all or get sent them all...
I think he was looking for specifics.
I want to vote for the This Heat box set in reissues, but I never got around to actually listening to it. :(
i’m stuck on the “artists” category. what are you submitting? [i’ve got a few entrants—green gartside, scott walker—but not much else.
best reissue evah
i’m probably not gonna vote but i’d probably use that category for producers and people who do frequent collaborations/guest appearances. but i guess that’s only easy depending on whether you like a lot of rap. (xpost)
AL MAN UP AND VOTE DAMMIT
[I]i’m stuck on the “artists” category. what are you submitting? [i’ve got a few entrants—green gartside, scott walker—but not much else.[/I]
1. Prurient
2. T.I.
3. Grizzly Bear
4. P.O.S.
5. Ecstatic Sunshine
as I kind of indicated upthread, I’m giving myself another year to figure out whether writing ‘real’ music crit is something I want to take more seriously or more like a habit I want to kick, and in the meantime don’t want to commit to any P&J or P&J-like activities that would further confirm my critic status. besides the fact that there’s not much music I really liked this year that’s enough of an underdog to really want to champion and help their odds in these polls. and that I have no dog in the pro- or anti-New Times fight and am happy to back neither. (xpost)
I left my artists section blank, not having been happy with any permutation of names I’d put in there.
another suggestion: fill ‘artists’ field with people who didn’t put out any music this year but whom you still support, should they release anything any time soon
i think i have come to the conclusion that it’s a relief to not do pazz & jop. more and more it felt like a chore cuz i am so out of it current single/album-wise. and when i contributed comments and stuff i kinda only did it cuz i contributed to the actual paper, you know, and now that i don’t, i don’t think it really matters if my token votes get thrown in with all the other stuff that i would never want to hear. i’m just not very listy. i never got matos’s thing. but that’s okay too, cuzza the above. i’m happy just contributing to Decibel’s poll. i write for them every month and i’m just more interested in that stuff to begin with. plus, that’s what i hear the most, so i feel like i have more of an actual opinion.
is the LCD considered single for Jackin’ Pop?
x-post
I saw a Hinder video on VH1 this morning. Ugh.
I did not buy enough or get sent enough reissues this year. Should I believe the hype on Karen Dalton:
“The late Dalton has been the muse for many folk rock geniuses... Her timeless, aching, blues-soaked, Native American spirit inspired multiple musical generations: Bob Dylan: ”Karen had a voice like Billie Holiday’s and played the guitar like Jimmy Reed.“ Nick Cave: ”She is my favorite female blues singer.“ Devendra Banhart: ”Without a doubt, she is my favorite singer.“
I would have contributed to PnJ if they hadn’t banned Matos, but they did. I don’t really want to be a music critic but I am one. I don’t want to care about all this end of year stuff but I do.
I could easily fill out a ballot of ten great albums by women, or ten albums in Spanish (and another for Portuguese), or ten records by people not based in the U.S., or whatever. The problem is bringing it all together. I might be up all night. I think this is fun.
Categories I will continue to neglect through ignorance/exhaustion: metal (even though “the best metal selection in the midwest” is five minutes from my house, I can never remember Skot’s favorite records when I’m there), British rawk, current country (I gave up this year), MySpace pop, gangsta rap (I guess T.I. kinda counts but not really, Chingo gets kinda gully on his mextape but not sure if I wanna spend a vote on an album that cannot be purchased anywhere, etc.), many more. Lo siento.
al my advice is run away now
another year or so and yr in michael corleone
In a moment of slight weakness, out of habit (and possibly boredom), I submitted my P&J ballot.
YOU ARE DEAD TO ME KELLM4N
oh, i just saw that Southern Nights got reissued this year! That’ll do.
For the “artists”, I’m gonna go with the “you can be imaginative if you’d like” theory and just list what I think impacted my listening and music appreciation the most this year... so ILX will be one of those on there. Youtube, too.
youtube, dude?
YOU ARE DEAD TO ME KELLM4N
I woke up this morning with the head of a dead juggalo beside me (the post-it on its forehead said “U ROT IN HELL KTHXBYE MM”), so try again.
Scott did you not get an Idolator ballot?
OK I re-read Scott’s post. One’s on the way.
i asked for one but then again i am not a writer, at least not a music one ; /
We’ve got Scott S. and Phil Freeman writing about international metal, and Phillip Sherburne is down in Chile writing about techno-like stuff on his blog and elsewhere, and Matt Haikunym writing about various international genres, but I wonder how writers/critics from the respective countries are being sent ballots? I guess it might take alot of work for Matos or Harvilla to find out who to send ballots to around the world, and translate the e-mail request for a ballot, or to make the writers do the translating from English and back.
Yeah, Utube dude. I found shit on youtube that I’d been looking for forever this year.
xpost im voting the lcd soundsystem in singles/tracks not albums
the form screws up accents! poor beyoncé i hope the votes for beyonc© still count
Everyone should do what that one rock critic did last year in his ballot and vote for nothing but singles. No albums, no artists, no pretentious blurb. Just a nice list of singles.
No one’s posting their ballots! Here’s my singles list (and I voted only for Joanna Newsom and Lansing-Dreiden for albums and only Big Apple Rappin’ and Sir Lord Baltimore for reissues):
1. Bob Dylan—“Thunder on the Mountain”
2. Peter, Bjorn and John—“Young Folks”
3. The Pipettes—“Pull Shapes”
4. The Rumble Strips—“Hate Me You Do”
5. Sally Shapiro—“By Your Side”
6. Lillix—“Sweet Temptation”
7. Wynton Marsalis—“Sparks”
8. Home Blitz—“Stupid Street”
9. Momus—“Frilly Military”
10. Lansing-Dreiden—“A Line You Can Cross”
my singles/tracks—still under consideration—waiting until the last minute to finalize:
1. LCD Soundsystem—“45:33”
2. T.I.—“What You Know”
3. Shareefa featuring Ludacris—“Need A Boss”
4. Sally Shapiro—“I’ll Be By Your Side”
5. The Game—“Let’s Ride”
6. AZ—“The Format”
7. Peter Bjorn and John—“Young Folks”
8. Nelly Furtado featuring Timbaland—“Promiscuous”
9. Fergie—“London Bridge”
10. Gnarls Barkley—“Crazy”
reissues:
1. David Byrne & Brian Eno—My Life in the Bush of Ghosts
2. Vince Guaraldi Trio—A Charlie Brown Christmas
3. V/A—Big Apple Rappin’
4. Weather Report—Forecast Tomorrow
artists:
1. High School Musical
2. Timbaland
3. the Knife
4. Joanna Newsom
5. “Weird” Al Yankovic
albums
01 ellen allien & apparat, orchestra of bubbles
02 paris hilton, paris
03 the knife, silent shout
04 ciara, ciara: the evolution
05 v/a, kiki: boogybytes vol 1
06 justin timberlake, futuresex/lovesounds
07 junior boys, so this is goodbye
08 beyoncé, b’day
09 booka shade, movements
10 scott walker, the drift
(tenth spot was rather wide open; fuckpony, e40, clipse and joanna newsom could all easily have taken it)
singles
01 ciara ‘promise’
02 cassie ‘me & u’
03 ellen allien & apparat, ‘way out’
04 pussycat dolls ft snoop dogg, ‘buttonz’
05 delia gonzalez & gavin russom, ‘relevée’ (carl craig rmx)
06 beyoncé, ‘ring the alarm’
07 ti, ‘what you know’
08 rex the dog, ‘maximize’
09 jenny wilson, ‘let my shoes lead me forward’
10 cham, ‘ghetto story’
(rejigged after i realised that it was almost identical to the albums list—wtf this NEVER happens!—hence no knife, paris, booka shade, justin singles; in retrospect should have voted for ‘irreplaceable’ but ‘ring the alarm’ is my jam right now)
artist
01 PARIS HILTON
02 ellen allien
03 ciara
04 gabriel ananda
05 beyoncé
ah fuck, forgot lindsay lohan as artist :(
I have to take EA&A’s “Jet” over “Way Out”
i’m stuck on the “artists” category. what are you submitting?
Timbaland is easily my #1, the rest I had to think about. Ended up with Joanna Newsom (because I often find HER more interesting than her album), James Murphy (to recognize “45:33,” DFA remixes), Owen Pallett (for Final Fantasy and also string arrangements for Grizzly Bear), and Gnarls Barkley (for being the media sensation of the year).
i had tim as my no. 1 too, but then i had a conversation with my brother about how much money high school musical made and i figured i had to give some recognition to the disney juggernaut
I keep tinkering with my #8-#10 albums. I sort of like that my saved ballot will just be automatically submitted if I don’t do anything before tomorrow: I can be passive about it, don’t have to ever sign off on the thing.
Nice to see all these Timbaland mentions, he’s on mine too. My number one choice was Ghost, simply because of their mindblowingly great show at Terrastock that I was front and center at. You can’t ask for better.
i just locked my ballot, but once it was submitted, the form emptied. i’m hoping that this doesn’t mean that my name will appear next to an empty form.
timbaland, scott walker, naeem juwan, green gartside and ornette coleman ended up in my artists category [not in that order.]
My top 3 reissues were the Hefner live album, the Hefner best of, and the Hefner b-sides and rarities comp.
the form empties because it’s locked.
matos is gettin’ cranky
j is gettin’ violent
shaggy is getting 2 dope
Hey Matos, is deadline Friday (as email says) or Monday (as site says)? Trying to prioritize...
My top 3 reissues were the Hefner live album, the Hefner best of, and the Hefner b-sides and rarities comp.
What’s the live one? The Peel Sessions one?
I have listened to fucking loads of Hefner this year, cuz’ve matters of the heart.
Monday. 3pm EST
Cool, thx.
the dalton is pretty fuckign awesome, well worth it, i think.
Packin’ Jop!
What’s the live one? The Peel Sessions one?
I have listened to fucking loads of Hefner this year, cuz’ve matters of the heart.
Yeah, except it’s released as “Maida Vail” rather than “Hefner: The Peel Session”. Dunno why. Still awesome though, the versions of “Greater London Radio” and “The Day That Thatcher Dies” in particular are just godly.
Stefan’s stats UPDATE 17/12 : BEST ALBUMS OF 2006 (NOW 74 EOY-LISTS INCLUDED) on Acclaimed Music Forum
http://pub37.bravenet.com/forum/3172289350/show/672646
still at number 1: TV on the Radio
BLAARRRGGHLE
I got Maida Vale the other day. Until I saw it in a shop I thought it was a collection of all their Peel sessions, rather’n a gig broadcast on the Peel show.
They still need a proper Peel sessions disc then. Maybe for 2007...
people who are talking about hefner (!!!) in 2006: die
Lex wants me dead = :(
Top 10 Albums of 2006
1. T.I.—King
2. Yo Gotti—Back 2 Da Basics
3. Spice 1 & MC Eiht—Keep It Gangsta
4. Boss Hogg Barbarians—Every Hog Has Its Day
5. Lil Wayne & Birdman—Like Father, Like Son
6. DJ Scream & D4L—Only The Crunk Survive 12: Kings of Snap
7. Young Dro—Best Thang Smokin
8. Killer Mike—I Pledge Allegiance
9. Army of the Pharaohs—The Torture Papers
10. The Roots—Game Theory
Top 10 Singles/Tracks of 2006
1. Trae feat. Z-Ro—No Help
2. Bo Hagen feat. D4L, Diamond & Princess—Wuz Up
3. Young Dro feat. T.I.—Shoulder Lean
4. BHI—Do It, Do It
5. Termanology feat. Lil Fame & Papoose—Watch How It Go Down (Remix)
6. Yung Joc—Dope Boy Magic
7. Project Pat feat. Pimp C—Cause I’m A Playa
8. Lil Yola—I Ain’t Gon Let Up
9. Ludacris feat. Young Jeezy—Grew Up A Screw Up
10. Unk—Walk It Out
Top 5 Reissues of 2006
1. Incredible Bongo Band—Bongo Rock
2. Lord Finesse—The Awakening
3. Horace Andy—Natty Dread A Weh She Want
4. Just-Ice—Back to the Old School
5. DJ Jelly & MC Assault—Bass Game 4
Top 5 Artists of 2006
1. Aphilliates
2. K-Rab
3. DJ Scream
4. Young Dro
5. DJ Toomp
Not enough Hefner.
After way too much
deliberation and thought,
my ballot is locked.
4. Just-Ice—Back to the Old School
Should have done this
Top 10 Albums of 2006
1. Killer Mike—I Pledge Allegiance to the Grind
2. T.I.—King
3. Mary J. Blige—The Breakthrough
4. Trae—Restless
5. Lindstrom—Its a Feedelity Affair
6. The Dogg Pound—Cali Iz Active
7. J Dilla—The Shining
8. Yo Gotti—Back 2 Da Basics
9. Papa Reu—Life and Music
10. The Game—Doctor’s Advocate
Top 10 Singles/Tracks of 2006
1. T.I.—What You Know
2. AZ—The Format
3. Prodigy—Mac 10 Handle
4. Omarion—Icebox
5. Too Short—Blow the Whistle
6. Christina Aguilera—Ain’t No Other Man
7. Basement Jaxx—Hush Boy
8. Big Mike and Six 2 feat. Young Bleed—Down Home
9. 50 Cent feat. MOP—I’ll Whip Ya Head Boy (Remix)
10. Juvenile—Get Ya Hustle On
Top 5 Reissues of 2006
1. Jiggs and Cheeks—The Don
2. Tom Moulton—A Tom Moulton Mix
3. Coughee Brothers—Collector’s Edition
4. Larry Levan—Journey Into Paradise
5. Slum Village—Fantastic Vol. 1
Top 5 Artists of 2006
1. Timbaland
2. T.I.
3. J Dilla
4. Will.I.Am
5. Lil Wayne
I’ll be honest I totally did the ‘top 5 artists’ at the last moment w/ no thought.