Pistols at dawn?

“Five years ago Paris Hilton’s album would have done really well over here (in the UK), because we didn’t have things like the Internet; we didn’t have bands like myself or the Arctic Monkeys,” Allen said.

“Now people can see (Paris) for what she is, and think: ‘Go away! What makes you think you have a life?’ Paris Hilton’s album did really badly over here and I just think it’s so boring and pathetic and it shouldn’t happen. It’s just laziness. People cheesy enough to buy albums like that should be killed.”

Lily Allen has publicly decried Paris Hilton, claiming her music career is a fad.

what’s wrong with Paris making an album...

Jewel kept on doing it after her debut. i wanna hear Paris. i’m curious.

she’s picking on such a fucking easy, obvious target. shows what pitiful musical integrity of her own she has.

it’s like kasabian slating coldplay. they all deserve each other.

what an enormous bitch. her dog is probably happier with whoever took it,lex or paris.

Musician asked question in interview, gives response, story at 11.

I’m more interested in the fact that apparently in 2001 the UK was an Internet-free zone.

she’s myspace spawn tho, right? i actually have no idea who she is.

england is a weird place.

We had the internet, but it was rationed.

it’s like kasabian slating coldplay. they all deserve each other.

L. Jagger...OTM!?

we didn’t have bands like myself or the Arctic Monkeys

we didn’t have bands like myself or the Arctic Monkeys

we didn’t have bands like myself or the Arctic Monkeys

we didn’t have bands like myself or the Arctic Monkeys

we didn’t have bands like myself or the Arctic Monkeys

we didn’t have bands like myself or the Arctic Monkeys

we didn’t have bands like myself or the Arctic Monkeys

bands like myself or the arctic monkeys are over... if you want it

f u website

roffle, louis

why 2 burn teh hoos &c

wasn’t a burn, was further irony :-) now the spell is broken :-(

Now people can see Keith Allen’s Devilspawn for what she is, and think: ‘Go away! What makes you think you have a life?’

i wish that BITCH would get CANCER

Am I the only person who really digs her record? I mean, I’m sure she’s a terrible person and everything.

I’d dig her record (a grave).

For a second I thought this was going to be like when Cheryl Girls Aloud called Marcello Carlin a weirdo in print. Now I realise Lily Allen hasn’t actually called the Lex out I’m weirdly disappointed.

wasn’t it “he sounds mental”?

she’s myspace spawn tho, right?

Worse: faux myspace spawn—because myspace is cool and trendy!

The marketing department knows.

Paris’ album is better. Not a lot better, but better.

And both albums are good.

all movements eventually end in the inbred imbecile stage, congrats poptimists!

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Lily Allen ... am I missing something?

no, wait. she’s awful. i’m missing absolutely nothing. and a horrid person it seems.

She doesn’t support racists.

Did Cheryl out of Girls Aloud really call Marcello mental?

Yep.

Annoyingly Google hasn’t cached the thread, seemingly. It’s called “Girls Aloud Diss Longstanding ILX Heart Throb”

i love cheryl. fuck lily allen though.

Lily Allen wears orange tights. So not a good look.

also a bowl cut.

kind of yeah yeah yeahs fan c. 2002 style.

Remember when every single indie girl in the country was dressed like Karen O? Man those were fucking dark days.

hott!

lily allen is the worst shit since the streets and until amy winehouse.

thanks for all the mumblesinging over crappy beats, england.

serves ya right

To be honest, America has taken Lady Sov off our hands so we don’t have to put up with her here, so we should probably send them some good musicians in thanks at some point.

they get all our best actors already.

their ‘rap music’ has torn our society apart

oh shit, i was watching ‘newsnight’ yesterday, about the shootings in clapham, and there were not only campaigners but random, blurry focus guys on the street saying, yeah well this is all down to 50 cent.

clearly US popular culture in the hollywood golden age, for example, never made a big thing out of guns and gunlore.

what’s your solution then?

either to lily allen or to gun crime

legalize crack duh.

if only IRL policing could work like ILX moderation.

surely that will only encourage lily further

if only IRL policing could work like ILX moderation.

WHY CAN’T PEOPLE JUST IGNOOOOORE HER?

i reckon she’s only got one more single off this album before she fucks off for a few years.

My god the video for her new single is horrid.

touches a nerve eh?

do you have an insanely annoying sister, dom?

You may be surprised by this fact considering how I act on ILX, but I’m actually an only child.

hang on amy winehouse = mumblesinger??

lily allen is the worst shit since the streets and until amy winehouse.

Amy Winehouse hype started way before teh Lilly Allen, she’s on her second album!

alright, not mumbly exactly. but she sounds like she’s trying to hide a lit cigarette in her mouth while she’s singing.

did they try and sell her first album in the US? have i been blissfully ignorant for that long?

they definitely turned up the marketing heat w. this one and i think tried to reposition her as ‘cool’. i hate her so much, so very very much.

I remember the reviews for the first album being all “like yer Norah Jones/Katie Meula but WITH AN EDGE!” In a funny way I suppose the second album HAS been marketed more agressively, I’ve read a lot of positive reviews—but they all seemed to take the “this album will fail but it shouldn’t cos it’s GREAT!” approach.

Lily Allen was on SNL last week. Host Forest Whitaker kicked her ass on vocals, who knew he could sing? She has 0 stage presence, but my wife liked her. I dunno, maybe she can be the distaff Madness for Americans.

“Smile” is catchy, but so’s the clap. Be careful out there.

i have this nightmare where mike skinner and lily allen get together and have 20 bulgy-eyed, dirty faced, ugly little children who wander around lisping semi-rhymed couplets about every detail of their lives and occasionally breaking into a maudlin singsong chorus about how their sandwich doesn’t have marmite on it or they lost their cellphone or something.

I wonder if UK foax are embarrassed by Lily Allen, like she’s a sister or too much “like them” and the similarities are uncomfortable, and they can see all these little details that nag at them? The quote above is horrible, obv, but it doesn’t change the way I hear her music. In a certain way it’s exactly the kind of ill-considered, punching-above-her-weight, wrong-headed blurting that makes her songs so enjoyable (to me).

xpost haha so that’s a yes, then!

Lily Allen is fuck all like me or anyone I meet on a daily basis.

The comeback to that is way too easy Dom.

haha

england is weird!

so glad to live in a “classless society”

got dat right

Lily Allen would never happen in America, the equivalent would be Chevy Chase’s daughter being held up as the saviour of wry witty multi-culchural pop.

i am trying to think of a famous person’s child we’ve turned into a quasi-hip musical celeb over here

origin unknown > paul wall

as much as it pains me to say it

has Chevy Chase ever done a dub parody advocating homosexuality?

DVD extra, Cops and Robbersons

xp

i am trying to think of a famous person’s child we’ve turned into a quasi-hip musical celeb over here
— rip torn vagina (jharvel...), February 16th, 2007.

that one garage producer... MJ cole? or have i finally gone insane?

ADAM F

Haha.

oh yeah

lisa marie presley?

lily allen annoys me much less as a personality these days. music still sucks though.

lisa marie presley has never, anywhere on god’s green earth, been “hip”

wasn’t she sort of mor-‘credible’ in the same way that sheryl crow was? not hip but not a figure of fun either. her album was the first pop album to be talked about on newsnight review over here, so it had some degree of being taken seriously

no!

i mean, i never thought i’d ever type these words but sheryl crow would be considered legitimately “credible” by contrast

her album was the first pop album to be talked about on newsnight review over here

4 real? this is a good fact.

i remember bonnie greer being insanely idiotic about it.

i mean, i never thought i’d ever type these words but sheryl crow would be considered legitimately “credible” by contrast

not hipster-credible! in the same way that, i dunno, millions of people buy james blunt albums because he’s sensitive and writes his own song and is “genuinely talented not like that manufactured pop pap” or whatever their reasons are. ie not an object of derision like, i dunno, lindsay lohan. what little publicity she got here was kind of like that, clearly different in america though.

no, you’re right, james blunt hasn’t been an object of derision at all.

the difference is that james blunt sold a buttload of records over here too, whereas i think lisa marie being kept on a label is more of an “elvis will strike us down from beyond the grave if we don’t put this album out.” plus the, uh, world market, i guess. lisa marie’s definitely one of those “famous for being famous” types over here.

Her album didn’t go top 40 UK so I think it’s safe to say it’s not just over there.

well i assumed.

unless you guys had some hasslehoff thing going on with lisa marie that i wasn’t aware of.

You people need to sort that Hasslehoff shit out. Give him his own reality show over there so he doesn’t have to bother us here.

It will be on UK MTV within six months and the problem will only be exacerbated

i used to console myself re Germany beating England at football with “well at least we will never tolerate David Hasselhoff in our pop charts”.

“.... the equivalent would be Chevy Chase’s daughter being held up as the saviour of wry witty multi-culchural pop.”

I’d have thought Dennis Leary or Bill Hicks would be a better equivalent to Keith Allen.

TS: Keith Allen vs. Lily Allen.

Vindaloo vs. Alphie.

Alfie even.

Amazon directed me to a Marcello list when I was looking at the “new” Joe Meek stuff. The list was quite old though, from 2002.

Bill Hicks would be a better equivalent to Keith Allen.

FROWNS.

Bill Hicks would be a better equivalent to Keith Allen.

If Keith Allen had died at the age of 32, we’d have had the stand-up, the pro-gay reggae record, and the Comic Strip films (including Gino, Fistful of Travellers’ Cheques and The Bullshitters). Not a bad legacy!