why not talk about your city, my city, the people’s city, here? not my pic
and while we’re at it, why not talk about the great things in store?
thank you, norman foster!
It’s not my city! This is my city:
But Seattle looks cool. We used to wonder (in 1991) if you could hear the grunge coming from Seattle from several miles out.
Seattle has a giant Kurt Cobain statue that straddles the I-90 floating bridge and ejaculates grunge onto lucky drivers.
ive gone through like 50 sets of windshield wipers
and while we’re at it we might as well memorialize. this is getting knocked down, and not for anything good:
i don’t know what that is
just a great apartment building on QA
wait where in qa?
on highland, across from kerry park. wait, that’s like two blocks from you, isn’t it?
yep. i’ve seen it before.
or you have esp
watch seattle grow:
i can’t find a good image of the Washington Mutual / Seattle Art Museum building, also known as “my building” because i watched, from my office, as it grew from a mere elevator shaft into one of seattle’s most striking buildings, and because i love it so much.
so instead here’s a link to the “sam-cam,” which is now just an archive, not an active webcam. if you’re willing to make the effort, use the calendar and time selectors to go to june 1, 2006, 2:30 a.m., for one of my favorite images, not only of the building but of the city too.
and here’s a link to the four seasons hotel and residences webcam (actively being updated about every 20 minutes or so), which is being built across the street (towards the water) from the WAMU / SAM.
http://lewisbuilds.oxblue.com/cam1/
i wanted to post a rendering but suddenly i can’t seem to do a proper google search, and it’s really annoying me. j, if you can find one, will you please post it?
i took a good pic of your building (you were driving). i’ll find it.
TS: hating PDFs vs. loving future transit maps
http://soundtransit.org/Documents/pdf/st2/MAP_ST2plan_large.pdf
maps win.
and an article about it
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/transportation/313393_sound27.html
here’s the best rendering for that 4 seasons. supposedly, when it’s finished, it won’t look nearly as good:
here’s a pretty faithful rendering of your building. i’m having trouble uploading my pictures so we’ll take this for now
i’m loving this thread, having the links in one place and not buried in my email.
olive 8 webcam:
http://206.165.183.36/user/cgi-bin/view_S_t_uF.thtml
rendering:
your building, my picture:
THANKS!
yeah that’s a great picture of my building; love it with that smokestack business in the foreground.
also, see why i love the viaduct?
TS: hating PDFs vs. loving future transit maps
i choose maps.
historic photos (not that historic-70s and 80s, but still)
the pictures in that link are something else! so weird to see seattle that way... maybe the b/w makes it seem more gritty and grim, but it’s so difficult for me to imagine it looking like that. except, i guess, for some of the “industry” pictures.
also, really interesting to see the u.district looking much like i first saw it.
thanks for linking here. it’s tops.
btw, the SAM expansion opens this weekend. have you been reading the press?
sinkhole madness at the university bridge! (thx to lx for the tip)
The sinkhole swallowed two unoccupied cars.
it’s alive!
kinda the same pic but...grittier.
sinkhole = broken water main = low water pressure = coffee shortage in the u.district = TROUBLE!
i’m sure i would feel differently if it had affected me, but i have to lol a little bit at all the people trying to go south out of the u.district at 5 o’clock and the bridge still closed. because, come on, people. don’t take montlake. take a different way. go to the 99. go to fremont. go to ballard if you have to. but montlake? of course that’s going to take for fucking ever.
people in seattle are dumber than people in sf, i think. when that bridge burned in sf the other day they were expecting horrific backups and they never materialized. duh, take an alternate route! i think even with the orange DETOUR signs people would still try to take that bridge.
from what i observed this morning, yes: cars in the left lane on campus pkwy racing along towards the bridge, (past the ROAD CLOSED AHEAD signs) only to have to change lanes at the last second and then... what’re you gonna do now, sucka? dumb-dumbs.
71, 72 and 73 buses are taking the freeway (olive to 45th). the 49 (formerly the 7) aren’t coming to the u.d. at all. poor eastlakers are kinda screwed.
water cuts through our city both as a heartbeat and a heartstopper
nice. and true.
bridge reopened this afternoon.
Where has this thread been all my life? What is this 8090 business? WHERE AM I???
haha! welcome to our board, jaq!!
What is this shiny new land?? It’s very cozy and peaceful here. May I apply for citizenship? I have skillz!
no application necessary. you are welcome!
This morning, I had the hi ho work song of the 7 dwarves from snow white stuck in my head. Mostly just Doc (or was it Grumpy) doing the hi ho call and the other dwarves doing the response. Maybe because of Hammmering Man:
everybody report back on free museum weekend plz
lol museum is hueg
the centerpiece (frontpiece? The main exhibit, the gigantic one that takes up the majority of the first floor) exhibit was a pretty underwhelming dud, I thought. I feel like 7 automobiles hanging from the ceiling should have been more exciting somehow. Maybe something other than the tubes of lights would have been better? Also, the one fireworks-strapped car....couldn’t they have done something less hokey with the footage of all the fireworks going off?
Lots of great stuff otherwise, though. My favorite was probably the aboriginal stuff (don’t remember which countries). Loved the paintings, the giant mask in the corner, and the statue below it.
The only outdoors festivities I saw were the buskers at various locations and the super bouncy, permasmile jump-roping people who were making things fun for the people in line to the tune of kool & the gang—celebration.
I would liked to have gone in the evening hours, but i have to get up at 4 am-ish
Here I am, up before 2 am. We went to bed at 7 (it was a long day). Time for tea. Will report on the wee hours crowd later.
between all of your crazy hours and my time zone this is a 24 hour board
lol museum is hueg
lingbert otm x 8080. It’s doubled at least, and the two lower floors are free (cafe, shop, auditorium, hands-on studio, music stage under tumbling cars. Cars are very meh. The 3:30—4 am crowd was smallish, but there were still lots of people there. mellow amped guitar dood played non-stop to keep people happy, Caffe Lladro and Starbucks were open. We got there at 3:30, got tix for 4 am, didn’t think to try to get in early until stepson and friend showed up at 3:50—they let us all right in, no waiting. Techno playing and dancing in the main gallery. Escalators now up to the 3rd and 4th floor spaces, as well as elevators. Most disturbing new acquisition: Untitled (Cheap to Feed)—a taxidermied dog (jack russell or wirehaired fox terrier) curled up as if asleep in a dark tan plastic chair. gold plated Brancusi bird. Most memorable room after a nap: 5 Asian restorations, with the fabulous crow screen that used to be at SAAM, a 13th century chinese richly colored scroll, the section of 72 foot long japanese deer poem scroll. 2 original woodblocks from Views of Mt. Fuji. The PNW artists gallery—lots of Mark Tobey’s market scenes and Morris Graves. Jacob Lawrence and Gwendolyn Knight have their own gallery. The Tiepolo ceiling has been moved into this overwhelmingly shiny new porcelain room. My happiest moment—realizing there weren’t any huge blatant Chihuly’s hanging around. Favoritest piece—an atypical John Singer Sargent portrait titled something like In the Olive Grove.
We didn’t see everything, didn’t get to the tea house, didn’t find the Maori longhouse or jade, collapsed in the cafe around 5:30 am and had tea and frites w/ remoulade and some cheese/crackers, then gawked in the new shop. Home by 6:30 am, asleep by 7:30.
jaq, you were getting home just as i was leaving home. and LOL there were times on the tickets? i just blithely walked right in. no line at all when i got there, though... uncrowded till after 8:30 or so. no techno either; that sounds fun.
guys, i liked the cars! at least i did after i saw the video that accompanies the piece. i mean i’m not in love with it, but i think it works. i love that it’s pedestrian (whatever, ford tauruses) and yet monumental (that thing takes up a lot of space, and there are cars inside the museum! a bunch of them! and they’re hanging from the ceiling!). i think it’s a good installation.
i love that j. lawrence and g. knight have a gallery.
that dog is FUCKED UP.
i spent most of my time in the modern rooms. i especially enjoyed the minimal room and the, what was it called? the room with the joseph bueys and the dog-tag chainmail? god my memory sucks. anyway, the northernmost part — the new part — of the third floor is my deal.
i was pretty done by the time i got to the aboriginal rooms, and basically raced through the rest of it. the william eggelston in the special exibition room was a treat (though not one of his more compelling pieces, to be sure), but that museum needs a lot more photography — non-portrait photography, that is.
otm to the lack of monster chihuly bullshit.
there’s a lot i didn’t see BUT i took the opportunity to finally get my museum membership (birthday 2006 now officially concluded). so i can go back any time. and so can you, jergins. or anyone who wants to pose as jergins.
kudos to the lusty lady for being a good neighbor, and kudos to the neighborhood for letting the lusty lady be. luv u, seattle.
here are a couple of different renderings of the four seasons, posted at the construction site:
yay membership! we got one too; good to share :) I also really liked the giant seascape by the german guy—and the one of the isolated house by the same guy. And the etruscan influenced greyhounds. I was trying to imagine dancing with some of those masks on my head. Would severely curtail my party endurance even further I think.
jaq, speaking of: i just left a voicemail for you, re. sunday night cocktails. it’s going to be a SAM de-brief. call me!
lxy, how long were you at the museum?
ling bert, mmm... 2 or 2 1/2 hours, i guess. how long were you there?
jaq, re. your question last night about what most excited or enthused or affected me: i named the contemporary japanese artists (nara, murakami) that i was happy to see but neglected to mention in my “review” above, however what i forgot to talk about both here and in our conversation is this:
joseph cornell! i love him, and i was so happy to see his work in person for the first time!
our quarter was released last week! i just saw it for the first time today.
I didn’t see the Joseph Cornell and so now I have to go back.
What is that business down by the fish’s tail? A fly-fisher on the shore?
herschel?
GIS I love you (searching for the other proposed WA quarters and i found this)
the tunnel boring machine breaks through, completing the first of two link light rail tunnels under beacon hill:
http://www.king5.com/video/featured-index.html?nvid=142029&shu=1
Tunnel boring pron! White spurting drilling stuff!
They are planting plants along the tracks down by us. I don’t want it to sit idle until 2009; there should be short route mule-drawn trams! Take me 3 blocks, up to Othello, to the Safeway and the bank.
boys and their construction toys.
word is it’ll open 3–6 months early, so that’s something.
not necessarily a recommendation:
University District Street Fair this weekend
you love it
Hm. No market this morning due to street fair :( But we can go to the Columbia City one on Wednesday night.
The Seattle Cheese Festival is today and tomorrow, down at Pike Place Market. I don’t know that we’ll go. I had got tix for the cheese nun doco at the art museum for Fri afternoon, but Mr. Jaq had a late running phone interview so we didn’t go. (He got the job though, yay!)
congratulations to mr. jaq!
look and this monster. damn. 44 stories at 8th and Pine.
kinda fun:
http://www.urbancondominiums.com/
click on CITYSCAPE 2010 at the top. it’ll popup for a flyover video thingee.
ghost buildings
ghost boxes
they managed to save first united methodist and are planning to put a skinny tower next to it. it may look something like this:
Escala webcam (I can never seem to get these to work in Firefox):
i’d always wondered why the routing of the future LRT line through the u-district didn’t go under campus:
Sound Transit moved its tunnel east from Portage Bay to the Montlake Cut, where the soil is more stable; and it agreed to a winding tunnel around the east edge of campus in a future phase, instead of a direct line that could pose vibration risks to UW science labs.
That Escala webcam is cool... live action!
we have to go to the showroom
I’ve been thinking that the Columbia Tower needs a counterpoint. It takes up too much mental space on the skyline. Something like the Chicago Spire:
(though they look evenly matched the chicago spire will be about 2x as tall when completed. but you get what i’m saying)
like WOW:
exciting!
what will become of it?
big day 7–8–7
Marilynne Robinson is giving a free public lecture at 7 pm on 8/15 at the Henry. Spotting the announcement in the Sunday paper gave me giddy fan-girl palpitations!
And, I wondered, is this part of D4n’s summer UW series?
it is part of that, as a matter of fact. good call, jaq!
not exactly seattle but,
tacoma got a new bridge today:
it’s very beautiful:
Dear Faculty and Staff:
I am writing to congratulate you for helping the University reach a remarkable milestone. This week, the University is announcing that for the first time, total annual funding for sponsored research exceeded $1 billion. These results are for the fiscal year that ended June 30, 2007, and they include funding for research from the federal government and from private sources like foundations and corporations. Funding from the federal government comprises nearly 80 percent of this total. As you may know, the University of Washington has been the top recipient of federal funds among public universities every year since 1974. It has been in the top five for both public and private universities every year since 1969, and in recent years has been second only to Johns Hopkins.
Yet even with this incredible track record, this year marks the first time our total funding for research has topped a billion dollars.
This is an extraordinary accomplishment at any time, but especially now when federal funding is flat. It is due, of course, to all of you who participate in the University’s research enterprise and who work so hard to garner funding for sponsored research. It is, in my view, the single most telling fact about the quality of the people who work here.
Competing so successfully at this level is truly an amazing feat, and I want to thank the many thousands of you who play a role and participate in our research for helping us reach this milestone.
Congratulations to everyone. You should all take great pride in being a part of this exceptional record of success.
Sincerely,
Mark A. Emmert
President
oh btw good work uw
(cuz it looks so good)
since i’ve been giving portland bars props lately, i figure i should at least give ups to one of my favorite bars in seawa:
check out this route map for flights from seattle:
xox garden on my building xox
they call it the back yard = cutie
an artist’s rendering of what seattle might look like in the future. from 1914:
http://www.vintageseattle.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/seattle_2014_01.jpg
NO CARS!
haha that’s exactly what the stranger pointed out
nice shot from golden gardens
http://www.flickr.com/photos/icantshoot/3286185163/sizes/l/in/pool-52240892586@N01/
wow, didn’t know the weyerhauser headquarters, which i’ve always admired from the 5, was designed by skidmore, owings & merrill
hooverville caught fire this morning
is it okay?
i guess the fire’s out. the place didn’t burn down completely. maybe we should swing by this evening and look @ the damage.
i hope the twilight zone is ok
my first thought!
maybe it’s been dragged out to the sidewalk and we can “salvage” it
Building toward a stronger economy...
University Link Groundbreaking
Join us Friday, March 6,
2 p.m.
ahaa now i can see the t
hey hey
http://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/stories/2009/03/23/daily26.html
Icelandair will begin flying four direct flights a week from Iceland to Seattle beginning July 22.
Flights from Reykjavik will be on Monday, Wednesday, Friday and Saturday and flights from Seattle will be on Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday and Sunday.
LET’S GO!
http://www.central-cinema.com/
it looks fun. do you want to see l.a. confidential and have some pizza?
finally!
let’s go!!
http://www.phinneywood.com/2009/05/04/food-health-inspection-violations-in-neighborhood/
Any Red Critical violations are handled on the spot, with the inspector teaching the restaurant’s manager the proper procedures. Here are three recent bad inspections from the neighborhood:
Red Mill got tagged with 65 points of Red Critical violations on March 26, including hands not washed as required, improper methods used to prevent bare hand contact with ready-to-eat foods, and improper cooking and temperature of potentially hazardous foods.
Pete’s Egg Nest received 65 points of Red Critical violations on April 21, including hands not washed as required, improper cold holding temperatures, and improper handling of pooled eggs.
El Chupacabra got hit with a combined 53 points from Red Critical and Blue Critical violations on April 21, including hands not washed as required, and garbage not properly disposed.
An inspection with 45 Red Critical points requires a re-inspection within 14 days; 90 RC points would shut the place down. A combination of 120 Red and Blue Critical points also would require a shutdown.
this is interesting
http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2009/05/28/asphalt-alchemy-converting-streets-into-parks
The city is considering a new plan for parks: Rather than purchasing expensive private parcels of land, some of which remain as parking lots for years without funding to complete parks, the city would save money by converting streets, which the city already owns. Tonight, the parks department’s board of commissioners will hear a plan to tear up five blocks of Bell Street, between First and Fifth Avenues, whittling traffic down to one lane, and replacing the other lanes with lawns, trees, shrubs, and the like.
The project would create about 17,000 square feet of green space, says Donald Harris, the parks department’s Property and Acquisition Services Manager. “Given the high cost of land in the downtown area, more creative ways of providing park space need to be found, particularly taking advantage of already owned City infrastructure,” he wrote in a letter to the parks board of commissioners on May 20. Recent purchases of private land for parks, he notes, have cost the city from $300 to $350 per square foot. By that metric, a project of this size on a city street would save about $5 million in land costs. The city would also realize savings by coinciding park construction with work by Seattle City Light, which needs to replace electrical utilities on Bell Street, and by partnering with developers, who were planning to spend money on street improvements on Bell Street anyway. The project would cost about $2.5 million, funded by last November’s pro-parks levy.
that sounds awesome. i love that part of town, why not make it even better?!
a worthwhile voice in seattle has burned out. aww, but i also understand. worth reading for a quote from a novel that i will buy:
that post gets two wows
is there breaking news in north seattle? 3 helicopters just raced over the house in quick succession.
more helicopters. lots of them.
nothing on 4 or 5 news though, and it seems 7 doesn’t exist any more.
“no signal” “invalid channel”
also i don’t know how to search on the internet for shit like this.
i think i’m not built to be a news hound
BUT i turned the tv on this time!
it’s hot here, shit
thunder up here right now and it has cooled down
paul constant of the stranger re: light rail
I was surprised by how scenic the light rail was. Granted, it was a gorgeous day and you could see for miles anyway; the views of Mount Rainier were amazing. But the view of downtown, too, was at an angle I’d never seen before—from high above Sodo—and Seattle looks really grand from that side. But there are some moments once the train passes through Beacon Hill* where all you can see are trees all around and it feels like you’re taking a train to the wilderness, and I expect those moments are only going to get eerier and better once the rain and gloom comes back.
I can’t wait for the light rail to extend further north—I can’t wait for more streetcars, either—but I’m glad it’s going south first. Seattle’s always been a north-minded city, and the light rail calls attention to some under-recognized neighborhoods. It’s also going to be a drastic change for some residents: Somewhere near the end of the line, the train passed over a couple who were frolicking, naked, in their backyard pool.
The Beacon Hill station is probably my favorite; it feels like a real subway station, and its dark, cool blue is an uncommon color for public transit. It appeals to the depressing, depressed Seattleite in me.
this looks pretty decent! and answers a question we’d had
http://www.phinneywood.com/2009/07/25/city-approves-of-new-fire-station-21-design/
i didn’t know till just now that cesar pelli, architect of the petronas towers, designed the physics-astronomy building (1994) on the uw campus. neat.
about cornish dorms, interesting
http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2009/07/31/theyll-leave-the-light-on-for-you
this i think is neat, haven’t quite figured the “real time” part, but the “explore” could be handy
hell of cool!
jesus wtf:
On September 5, 2009, at 7:30 p.m., a female UW student was on her way to the UW vs. LSU football game walking alone in parking area E-9 on the north side of Husky Stadium. She was pushed to the ground by two unknown males in their 20’s, who then took the victim’s football ticket from her rear pocket. Both suspects fled toward the North Plaza entrance to Husky Stadium and entered the facility. Responding Officers were unable to locate the suspects among the crowd. Fortunately, the victim did not sustain serious injury.
Seattle named #1 “City of the Future,” there’s a picture of a goat eating brambles
http://green.yahoo.com/blog/greenpicks/249/top-10-u-s-cities-of-the-future.html
On Sept. 28, students were extended the option of swapping their archaic WebPine or Web Alpine services for systems offered by providers Microsoft and Google.
...
The extra storage is a colossal upgrade from the skeletal in-house system count of 300 megabytes. With Microsoft’s system, 10 gigabytes are available to fill with messages and photos, and more than seven gigabytes amp the Google inbox.
Plus, with UW Windows Live Mail, users receive Outlook Live — the latest version of exchange e-mail — integrated messaging, Windows Live Spaces — an online work space ideal for collaborations with class groups and photo sharing — and SkyDrive, 25 gigabytes of online file storage. Google wrapped their application suite in the UW logo, extending Gmail, Google Calendar, Google Docs and Google Talk to students.
my question is when will staff be able to choose gmail
uw film archives:
2 minutes with an artist: http://uwnews.org/uweek/article.aspx?visitsource=uwkmail&id=52699
1 minute about salmon: http://uwnews.org/uweek/article.aspx?visitsource=uwkmail&id=52517
2 minutes of trash cans: http://uwnews.org/uweek/article.aspx?visitsource=uwkmail&id=52297
3 minutes of chemicals in a lake: http://uwnews.org/uweek/article.aspx?visitsource=uwkmail&id=53184
2 minutes of arson investigation: http://uwnews.org/uweek/article.aspx?visitsource=uwkmail&id=53319
2 minutes of highway research: http://uwnews.org/uweek/article.aspx?visitsource=uwkmail&id=53509
from phinneywood:
Michael reminds us that it’s the 20th anniversary of the John Cusack classic “Say Anything,” with two key scenes filmed right here on Phinney Ridge at the 7–11 and the adjacent Woodland Park by the zoo’s north entrance.
i did not know that!
eleanor roosevelt building, aka taproot theater
no more, lame
strong language from uw’s president emmert:
“The proposed budget is by any measure a train wreck for the state....”
this kinda fucking freaks me the fuck out:
At approximately 5:15 p.m., a female student waiting at a bus stop at University Way, N.E. and N.E. 42nd Street was checking the bus schedule on her iPhone when a male suspect slapped it from her hand, picked it up, and fled on foot in a southerly direction with two other males. The victim was not injured in this incident.
cuz, you know, that’s right there. and i do that. at that time. all the time.
and i’ve thought about how that could happen. wtf.
maybe i should get my name off the UW alerts list; they make me worry too much, i think.
Starting Monday a part of the Burke Gilman Trail across from Hec Edmondson Pavilion will be closed, signaling the start of construction of the long-awaited Sound Transit light-rail station.
The closure, which will last 18 days, until Jan. 3, is the beginning of 6 1/2 years of construction activities near Husky Stadium to build a Sound Transit light rail station and install a 3.1 mile underground tunnel connecting the UW to Capitol Hill. When the station and tunnel open in 2016, Sound Transit projects that 27,000 riders will pass through the UW station each weekday.
full article here: http://uwnews.org/uweek/article.aspx?id=54255
about our new buildings:
http://uwnews.org/uweek/article.aspx?visitsource=uwkmail&id=55443
many lols resulted from this unfortunate phrasing in the article linked above:
And we found a huge population of students who live off campus who would like to live on campus if the right project was available at the right price.
the temporary naming committee need not meet, because we’ve already come up with a good list:
the ghetto
the projects
el barrio
shantytown
hooverville
i like 35w with the interior courtyard, very euro
i see now how 31w works with that small lot we were conjecturing about last night: the alley extends through and two smaller buildings sprout up
“This isn’t Dallas.”
neato pix of the space needle being built
http://www.vintageseattle.org/2010/07/06/world%E2%80%99s-fair-sliding-pt-3/
that IS flushing awesome.
I LOVE IT
baltimore does not care enough for me to even know that was an issue. hair? no flushing hair?
new york thinks it’s talking about a place where they play tennis
I love our neighborhood :-)
We had a yard sale yesterday (today too), and sold so much stuff and it felt like everyone from our end of Georgetown stopped by to just say hi and pass on some good will. People bought SO MANY BOOKS! And we had lots of good chats about reading. Hoping for similar today. Also lots of dogs came by, one that looked so much like Basil!
Aww, I wish we could have stopped by!
i’m sorry i missed this, we would have for sure come
FAP for WmC at the 9 Lb Hammer tonight, starting around 6:30. I can’t be there b/c I overcommitted for tonight, but Robert and WmC will be hanging out for a bit.
aww
out of 8, the number of ilxors to have visited with us in seattle in the last ~3 years who want to move to seattle: 5
of 3 who don’t want to move to seattle, number who want to move to portland: 2
of 1 who doesn’t want to move to seattle, number who really do but can’t/won’t: 1
(important to note: “visited with us” is not presumed to be the driving factor, just distinguising that group from the other ilxors who have probably visited seattle but haven’t visited with us. i have no idea whether or not they want to move here.)
jordan has been talking A LOT about wanting to move to seattle. it’s probs only gonna happen if something goes terribly wrong with the company he works for, tho.
<3 jordan. not wishing ill for his current work but
I want us all to live in Seattle
Me too, sort of. (Portland!)
i liked seattle but i preferred portland. i think i just really like the sort of small-town vibe and it reminded me of wellington quite a bit.
wellington reminded me of portland!
FOUR years ago? wtf?
i heard traffic was gonna be bad
it might be! we’re both working remotely as much as possible over the next 3 weeks.
stay as cool as possible this weekend my beloved boxlers
thank you, dear mookie. we’re hatching a plan to gtfo. it’ll be miiiiild on the coast.