i am trying new things.
NUTMEG
Marlboro Lights.
I wish. Alas, I quit.
What about those menthol cigs? BARF. I can’t understand people who smoke’em. Seriously don’t.
i don’t even get the point of lights tbh.
try giving up, bnrq. that’d be novel and nu.
Me neither, really, but that was what my husband smoked... So I just got the same ones.
i gave up, but i done gave up giving up now.
i might give up again.
that wouldn’t be something new, though.
crack?
i like them — had a pack this week. in fact i was having them back in ’99. still not found everywhere.
no, they’re not exactly easily found at the corner bodega. i usually smoke the regulars. except when i’m really wasted, and i end up with a pack of a) unfiltered luckies or b) marlboro reds
gauloises blondes legeres/“gauloises reds” in today’s etc etc etc.
i am obnox pretentious, but they do taste nice. (and are sold in my nearest corner shop)
I was pleasantly surprised to find American Spirits in a shop in Amsterdam, so I brought 200 back with me. They’ve all gone now though.
I usually smoke B&H “Silver” these days. They smoke pretty good for lights. Since I only smoke when I’m drinking nowadays I find full-strength ciggies a bit rough on the throat. In theory I’m going to quit in July when you can’t smoke in pubs any more.
I’m more likely to quit pubs, sadly.
American Spirits usually, organics when I can find them (they taste a little sweeter), but when I’m feeling fancy, I get Nat Sherman Classic Mints. The secret is to smoke them right down to the filter, so the last drag tastes like a delicious candy.
When I smoked: Dunhills, Nat Shermans and Sobranies, Camels.
marlboro menthol lights. LOVE THE MENTHOL.
I tried a menthol once. I instantly vomited.
luckies, red
chesterfields too when theyre about
royals when i’m feeling cheap (ok, all the time)
menthol whatever if ive got a cold
sheesh, people, menthols are for wannabe smokers. ;-) (i know, i know, what about lights?)
the most elegant smoker was my mum who smoked dunhills and would actually wake up in the middle of the night for a cig! she’s now an avid anti-smoker. quelle surprise.
won’t smoke:
marlbruh lite (whats the point indeed)
marlbruh red (taste so flat and grey)
camel lite (taste too creamy, no one else thinks so)
b&h (heaaaavy)
dunhill (too rich, plus my mum smoked them)
well i smoked regular cigs for years, i think my sister got me into menthols and now i cannot smoke a regular cigarette without thinking its sort of gross.
xp that is exactly my mum! after 30 years she went for hypnosis and immediately never wanted one again.
amel lite (taste too creamy, no one else thinks so)
so otm!!
i am having a hard time with full-on camels though, never used to. i had these ‘mediumy’ ones once which were great.
camel menthol lights
i, too, can’t smoke regs.
My default cigs are Marlboro mediums
The UK has a terrible cigarette range. Where are the Merits, the Tareytons, the quality off-brand smokes? Here it’s what, Regals. Mayfair. Blecch.
i blame thatcher.
Blecch? Never heard of’em.
L.S./M.F.T.
Lucky Strike filters/lights are just normal cigarettes in a Lucky Strikes box, though! WHERE’S THE SWEET SWEET TOASTEDNESS. I ask you.
Nat Sherman Phantoms are freakin fantastic but they’re so clotted with sugar and additives rich that I can usually finish about 2/3 of one before I have to go lie down.
I need a fancy-time cigarette choice. Used to smoke Dunhill blues, now Marlboro light 100s all the time...maybe a different Dunhill or an N. Sherman is in my future?
camel lights, if unavailable winston lights or paliaments.
Lucky Strikes light (which do still have the toastedness, Eli!) if available, otherwise Parliament Lights because I like the blue and white box.
i used to smoke camel wide lights or parliament lights, or kools if i was feeling minty. perhaps the occasional newport. chesterfield filtered are my all-time favorites, but not easy to get. in the uk, i smoked camel lights as i never found the wides. i’m basically cig-free at this point (had ~ 4 in the past six months or so), unless i’m doing really heavy drinking. i still miss menthols.
Ally I did not know that. I think in the UK they’re just plain.
Ooh, forgot about Parliaments. I never liked the way they tasted, but the starlight mint pattern on the filter when you’re done is a treat.
Aren’t they called something like “Lucky Strike SILVER” in UK though? Not the same exact thing...I have never seen Lucky Strike LIGHTS in the UK, only Silver, which I still bought but they definitely tasted different, and also I don’t believe the box even referenced the toasty (though for all I know the toasty reference could be covered by the ridiculous warning label?). Lucky Strike Lights only seem to exist in cigarette vending machines in the US, for all I can tell.
I always like it when Parliament does its weird promotions and covers the filter of the cigarette with PALM TREES!
Marlborough Mediums or Camel Lights in the U.S.
Gitanes Blondes, Stuyvesant Reds or Marlboro Lights in France
Once upon a time, I smoked Export A Greens!
i’ve gone through a few menthol periods, i usually like them better in the summer. my first menthol period was the tail end of my freshman year in college through that summer and into the fall of my sophomore year. i last had menthols in november (i think?) when the free cigarette guy came through the note and it turned out to be the free kool guy. free camel light guy got me last thursday in uptown. i drank for free and got 2 free packs of cigarettes. tremendous night.
in the uk nothing is called ‘lights’ any more, at least on the packet, so yeah it’s ‘silver’ or ‘red’. i think luckies do have the ‘they’re toasted!’ logo here too...
kool milds or kool lights if available.
50 buxx an eighth,,,30 buxx wholesale.
Yes, EU wide regulation forbids the use of terms such as ‘lights’ or ‘milds’, so it’s silver and red from now on.
My fancy-time choice:
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argh...
fuckin EU
are menthols available in the UK? before i left on my flight to london last september i made sure to buy some menthols at duty free because i was under some impression there were no menthols in britland.
General Lambert & Butler. I very need to quit.
This thead is going to make me smoke at lunch.
are menthols available in the UK?
yep.
gosh, yes you do. gross, dude.
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Years of conditioning, I’m afraid.
In theory I’m going to quit in July when you can’t smoke in pubs any more.
It’s not that bad, really.
Anyway, ROLL-UPS are the only thing to smoke. Pure unfiltered tobacco. It’s nothing to be proud of, of course. But having smoked roll-ups for some years now, I find that tailor-mades just don’t do it the same.
I love smoking.
The most interesting conversations happen outside, with the smokers.
Last night I was smoking with two other people and a woman walked up and waved her hand in front of her face as if she had to wave through the smoke! I was outside, it was 12 degrees, there were two people smoking! The third person (politely calling her girlfriend on her cell phone and hanging out with the smokers) waved back at the bitch!
Fuck that. Anyway, my friend has just been offered a job as a cheese rep—basically, he will go all over the world eating cheese and representing artisanal cheese to gourmet distributors. Another woman came out to have a smoke, and we talked about cheese. Mold. Aging processes. Artisanal goat cheese.
She raises goats and is a cheesemaker.
I think this was more interesting because of the scotch.....but let me tell you. I love cheese and I love smoking and i am glad i got to smoke with the cheese people!
If i am smoking outside a bar in 12 degree weather, the day after a blizzard, nobody should behave like it’s an offensive act.
(American Spirit blue, yellow under duress. Exports (gold) when I feel a bit fancy.)
The clerks at the two local “corner stores” reach for the pack as soon as I walk in. “One or two today?” It makes me smile.
I started with Camels, then Marlboro Reds, then Lights, then Ultra Lights and now I just smoke pot.
Last night I was smoking with two other people and a woman walked up and waved her hand in front of her face as if she had to wave through the smoke! I was outside, it was 12 degrees, there were two people smoking! The third person (politely calling her girlfriend on her cell phone and hanging out with the smokers) waved back at the bitch!
OK this irritates me a lot because the same people I know who do this kind of thing OUTSIDE are also the ones that are vehemently against even having the option of a smoking room, or smoking bars, or separated areas or anything indoors.
before I quit, I’d switched to Kamel Reds from Camel Lights. Do they still make Kamel cigarettes? Tried smoking Lucky Strikes for a while but they seemed excessively harsh.
According to legend, when I am really tanked in the vicinity of clove smokers, I will bum and smoke those. I can always tell when this has happened because I wake up the next morning talking like Tom Waits and my throat is bleeding.
Of course it is scientific fact that only trashy hippie/goth girls smoke cloves, so it’s possible my motivations might be non-smoking related.
I used to smoke Bidis, I kind of miss them, tbh.
favorite box:
#2:
you used to be able to find bidis at the various hookah bars in chicago. the smoking ban effectively put them out of business though i think.
xpost re: cloves
Nope. Yucky hippe/goth boys do it too.
Camel Lights. This is my fifth brand. When I started it was (don’t laught) Benson & Hedges Ultra-Light Menthol 100s, which I smoked for about a year and a half. Then I dabbled very briefly in Parliament Lights before switching to American Spirit Lights for a couple years. In 2003 I quit entirely, for health reasons, but then I started back up again in 2005 when I bummed a Marlboro Ultra-Light from a friend and though “Oh, well, I could smoke these.” So I did, for about a year. At which point I became persuaded that Marlboros tasted weirdly chemical, and I was used to bumming lights from my friend Renee, so I switched over to Camels and upgraded the strength.
I’ve always been a social smoker, more or less. And these days I only really smoke on weekends. Probably because of that, regular-strength cigarettes have always been way too intense for me.
I tried rolling (with filters) for a while and the taste was def superior, but I couldn’t get them rolled tightly enough and I really missed the strong drag, in terms of sheer physical habit. I should reconsider.
It took me a long time to properly get the hang of it. I started on the roll-ups through sheer fiscal necessity, and so I suppose I had a need to put the hours in getting the technique right. Can do it with my eyes shut now though, though I can’t as yet roll with one hand. As yet.
i used to be able to roll one handed. came in handy when i still owned a car.
Maybe a rolling machine Laurel?
LOL @ “dr b0ngs”
i work with a medical doctor whose name is Dr. Bong.
It cracks me up everytime i see an email from him.
Yeah, I think I want a rolling mechanism that’s part of a little box to put yr papers and leaf in! A friend had one, once. It takes the skill/fun/cachet out of rolling yr own, but it’s efficient and mechanically satisfying.
It all starts in the sandbox. Soon enough, jaymc won’t be able to stop compiling lists and facts as he reaches for another Camel! Coughing into his keyboard, he will be wishing for those sandbox days of yore, when he was a “casual” “weekend” user of this drug. I think everyone knows the drug that I am referring to!
It always starts with a “friend Renee”. How many of us have been there? “Can I offer you a link?” she says, with that pretty girl smile and innocent demeanour.
We have all dabbled very briefly before switching. But then, for health reasons,we start up again by bumming a link from a friend. And then you think “Oh, I could post these.”
“I’ve always been a social poster, more or less. And these days I only really post on weekdays.During work. Probably because of that, regular-strength threads have always been way too intense for me.” jaymc states, in obvious denial of his problem.
You need to post more. The experts say that more posting leads to a great decline in productivity, which should convince jaymc to heed his friend Renee’s advice: “Shh—hey, ya wanna good link?”
In fact, if jaymc does not start a thread within the next twelve hours, I think he should be banned. :)
You were totally the “anus bib,” weren’t you?
HAY, can one get 110mm rollling papers in the US? Not everywhere obv, but at least enough places to make smoking them feasible?
l&m are the absolute best, followed by chesterfield. i can rarely find either of these in the US so i had to stop smoking. everything else made me feel dirty.
Nope. I was not the anus bib. As far as I know.
Cigarettes smoked—5
Cigarettes purchased—40
Life is good!
Notable interactions: Buying two packs from the school bus driver, who daylights in the booze/cigarette store and parks the bus in the parking lot.
can you tell I miss Blams thread...
laurel, you can get anything on-line. i’d go to a
tobacconist or someplace that sells the ever-popular “water pipes”.
Drum rolling tobacco.
There are at least 5 honest-to-goodness tobacconists in this town—LOL @ KY.
HAY, can one get 110mm rollling papers in the US? Not everywhere obv, but at least enough places to make smoking them feasible?
I bought some at the convenience store down the street.
There were 2 head shops, but then the owners of one sold their store, bought a hearse, and now drive around America, adventuring. The owners of the other one aren’t going anywhere anytime soon though.
One tobacconist shop actually has lazy boys, no windows, and staunchly oppose the smoking ban, letting patrons stink up the place with cigar smoke all the live-long day. I used to hang there and play bluegrass music with them on occasion.
I want to go driving around in the head shop hearse!
No I want to play bluegrass and smoke all the live long day! With the lazy boys!
Okay, because only rollers I can find for the US are the short Rizla ones, but these UK versions come in 110mm length. Perfect.
Fo- shnizzle.
When it comes to rolling paper, S: OCB
OCB, c’est pour les oinjs, non?
As a teen I smoked Newports (?!) and later changed to Camels, but for years now it’s been American Spirit Lights ONLY. Get all other cigarettes away from me, even regular American Spirits. If American Spirit Lights went away, I would quit smoking.
american spirits make me very nauseated.
People seem to either love them or hate them, yeah.
They taste like dry paint scrapings mixed with hay to me.
I smoke chumps like you on the b-ball court!
American Spirits are the only cigarettes whose smell I like.
Maybe I’ve been brainwashed, but other cigarettes taste too chemical and sweet to me. I look forward to Dry Paint Scrapings Mixed With Hay as an actual brand.
I had Czecholovakian Marlborough Reds on a train from Salzburg to Vienna in ’84. They were ‘Dry Paint Scrapings Mixed With Hay and Now with Exrta Lead!’ in flavor. Luckily the Tokay was potable.
In Prague I had a pack of these horrible Czech cigarettes, “West,” in 1994. They just tasted incredibly toxic, possibly radioactive.
Second & Third World cigarettes, S/D?
I went to Tunisia on a school trip in 1994 and brought back 200 Cristal for £3.50. They were harsh as anything, pretty nasty. There was a brand called Mars that were actually pretty good, wish I’d bought a carton of those instead. I was 16 so I had to get an older kid to bring them through customs for me.
West are German cigs. Czech Rep’s finest = Spartas or Starts (for that extra proletarian edge). Ok thx bye
Second & Third World cigarettes, S/D?
I believe French cigarettes can cause instantaneous emphysema and retroactive birth defects.
Absolument!
Gitanes brunes 4 ever!
now i am liking these:
my favorite cigarettes of all time, though, are Golden American Regulars. smooth, sweet, and come in 25 packs in Poland.
Rollies with filters is the way to go. Rolling is a nice little ritual, and makes you feel like you’ve earnt it in some very minor way.
Meh to that.
i used to order my cigs from moldova until the feds asked me (nicely, actually) to stop.
i brought home a grip of benson & hedges from poland — cheap! — but i stopped smoking them because... they are nothing like u.s. benson & hedges, which i’ve been smoking since the dawn of time. i guess i’m saving the polishes for emergencies.
Do any other countries have to put up with shit on their cig packets like this:
Like we do? It is so nice, having a mouth full of rotten teeth and oozing sores staring up at you from the table at the pub.
When I was a freshman at Oberlin, my friend and I used to order cartons and cartons of Euro Camels and Dunhills and sell them for so much money to drunk people at parties. Then he got nicely asked by the Feds to stop doing that two years later. He’s the same one who used to say that all you needed on @c|d was a dark room, Stereolab CDs, cigs, and no shirts on.
Oh yeah, I remember those warnings now from when I was in Oz... fucking horrible.
favourite warning
I smoked some Tanzanian Camel Lights the other day. They were OK.
I forgot about L&Ms, they’re great!
The other day I was waiting at a bus stop, fairly cold weather, a clear day, everyone wearing scarves, etc. I light a cigarette with the ritual hope that this will make the bus come faster. A woman standing about three feet away, to my left, clad in overcoat, fur-lined cap, scarf, etc. juts her face in my direction and says something I don’t quite catch about smoking. I ask her to repeat herself and she says “I don’t BELIEVE in smoking.” Which confuses me. Is she saying that the lit cigarette in my hand is a dream, an illusion, a piece of misdirection? Flimflam? A theory that has not been proven? As she raises her hand to her face and begins waving the air around in front of her with a rapid back and forth motion, and scrunching up her nose in disgust, I realize she means she doesn’t LIKE the fact that I am smoking near her. It is apparently up to me to change this situation, so I do, without saying another word—what could I say?—grinning weirdly, this frozen grin on my face, I move a few feet farther away. The bus comes in like 20 seconds.
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— chupacabras (m_66...) (webmail), February 17th, 2007 12:51 PM. (chupacabras) (later) (link)
This is odd, since nicotine is a vasodilator and does not by itself decrease erections. In theory, it should INCREASE them. Poor health in general can certainly make you a sad limpy boy, but to argue that nicotine is the cause is disingenuous. You may as well say that fast food makes you impotent.
Started off with Marlboro (Reds) in high school; then on to Red Kamel, Winston, and Parliament Lights in college; then Camel Lights, now American Spirit (Yellow). In between (or when I’ve felt fancy), I’ve smoked Gauloises, Davidoff, and 555.
I plan to quit this year, before I turn 25.
Never liked cloves, bidis, or cigars. For some reason, Black & Milds are quite popular around here, esp. in the lower-income neighborhoods. I know they don’t use them for blunts, since Swisher Sweets are preferred for that purpose.
Also, Mexican cigs are definitely nastier than their US counterparts. There used to be a guy on Broadway in Downtown L.A. who sold export cigarettes out of a backpack for $2.00 a pack. They were of a higher quality than the Mexican ones, so I have reason to believe they were going to the EU or something.
Quit, naus! I love ciggies, and always will, but i also love people who can manage to quit!
There’s a huge debate happening in town (and other towns, I assume)—about smoking in private clubs. It’s a weird debate, because...bar owners are unhappy that the law has a loophole, but only because they feel screwed by the law. The anti-smoking screeching group wants a ban that also requires smokers to smoke 50 feet away from the entrance to a bar or restaraunt. (!!! at which point you’ve walked home, for fuck’s sake.)The private clubs ARE: VFW and American Legion—veteran’s clubs.
As a (relatively) young woman who has not served, I don’t go to these clubs. Let the old geezers smoke! It’s not like thousands of smokers are suddenly trying to qualify for entry to the VFW!
As much as i love my cigs, i know i have to say goodbye to this habit soon. But...smoking outside...it just amazes me that people get upset about it.
I am, despite my attitudes in other posts, a very polite smoker. At restaurants that have outdoor seating, and allow smoking, I always ask the patrons near me if they mind if I smoke. Usually people are delighted that i bothered to ask, and don’t mind. And then bum a cigarette. On the few occasions that someone has said it would bother them, I have refrained, and they thanked me. (This is usually people with kids—so...I don’t mind holding off for the little lungs!)
Seattle (where i used to smoke, and live)—put a law in for a 20 feet smoking thing? Those sorts of laws are ridiculous—because you’re basically telling people to stand in the middle of the street. Or in front of an apartment building. huddled, and then walk back to your drinks.
it’s silly! If I am not smoking in a bar—which is quite inconvenient for me, as I love smoking and drinking in bars—my smoking outside should not be something to complain about!
I guess what I want to say is—I understand the fuss and bother, and I understand why there are smoking bans. But it has become so intolerant lately, and it seems like such a non-issue. I smoke outside! Move on to more important subjects of local/national importance!
$6.25 per pack is going to kill me before the hardened arteries.
aimurch: here they recently put signs up banning smoking in tram stop shelters. Rather pointless exercise really. The smoke’ll just drift. We’re about to get full on no-smoke pub bans this year too. But I suspect many bars/pubs will just set up beer gardens to handle it.
it is really interesting to see how the smoking bans make pub/restaurant owners get creative!
You’re in Australia, correct? A hothouse of creative thinking! I’m sure folks will come up with elaborate ways to squeeze around the law. In NYC many bars have purchased heating units that keep patrons warm in the back yard/patio area of the establishment. And, of course, that’s the most fun place to be!
The last time I was in NYC, I went to a bar in Queens and at midnight they told us all to come inside and smoke. Because, I guess, midnight is the magical hour when laws aren’t enforced? Nobody cares? I do not know. Anyway, a fireman bummed a cig from me and bought me a drink.
I don’t even care anymore. The bars have gotten creative in marketing to attract smokers back in. And set up something to make smokers feel comfortable while they are outside. “Smoking Areas”
However, not one bar owner I have spoken to feels great about the ban, because many people have given up the habit of having a pint on the way home, because they can’t smoke. it has definitely hurt the bar/pub owners business. But, as I said, they have become very creative!
I think the only thing that bothers me is the moral tone of the legislation, and enforcing. I would prefer to smoke IN the bar, of course. But I am not too bothered by hanging out with the interesting people while huffing butts in the great outdoors. This does not make me any more or less of a moral person.
There’s this general tone that smoking=bad=smokers=bad. So people feel comfortable waving their arms—outdoors!—to dispel the smoke that is offending them!
I happily pay sin taxes, but I am offended by the moniker of “sinner” when I smoke a cigarette in public.
The hysteria makes me a more committed smoker, actually!
In NYC many bars have purchased heating units that keep patrons warm in the back yard/patio area of the establishment.
This is the sort of thing that enrages me about smoking bans.
Why? I assume because it is more ecologically unsound to create false environments for smokers than to have the cigarette smoke itself?
i want to know why it enrages you.
A quote from Vonnegut’s new memoir:
I am going to sue the Brown and Williamson Tobacco Company, manufacturers of Pall Mall cigarettes, for a billion bucks! Starting when I was only 12 years old, I have never chain-smoked anything but unfiltered Pall Malls. And for many years now, right on the package, Brown and Williamson have promised to kill me. But I am now 82. Thanks a lot, you dirty rats.
I assume because it is more ecologically unsound to create false environments
Absolutely correct. I’d be less concerned about wood burning braziers. Even the top down radiant design is fundamentally unsound. On old ILX there is a substantial rant by me on the subject.
I am a non-smoker, I have no particular problem with smoke, (I have no particular problem with it not being smoky either), however I’d much rather a smoky bar than an indulgently heated outdoor space.
Thanks, Ed. Once we go back, please point out your rant. I would love to read it! (Or link it now, I guess!)
Also, I have smoked WITH Vonnegut. Twice!
He is the poster boy of smokers.
neh, that would be art spiegelman
HOW DO I BUY ONLY ONE CIGARETTE
Go to an ice cream van in West Central Scotland.
Mr.Vonnegut was doing a semester of teaching here in western Mass.—at Smith college—in Northampton, the ground zero of political correctness.
He liked hanging out at one particular spot, smoking, in the morning—and I stopped by one day and had a smoke with him. The funny thing is that NOBODY would complain because it’s Vonnegut Smoking!!!
Hand wringing imagined:
“Well, even if the smoke offends me I have to think about his canon, and since he has been pro-woman I need to support his need to smoke. But some of his writing is hard to figure out, and I wonder if I should support his smoking outdoors? Smith hired him as a professor...hmmm...I have some concerns but I really want that fair trade coffee.”
Me—Kurt—cigs. That’s a good day for me.
Well, Ed and aimurchie (and the rest of you filthy smokers), the other day I was returning from the city with my fiancée (“please! he doesn’t have a fiancée!”) and got into a long discussion about the woman on the sidewalk smoking in front of us. She lit up while exiting the subway and I had to stop and wait for her to go ahead about 10 steps because the smell is so revolting.
My fiancée (“Yeah right! Fiancée!”) said, “Oh nooow you know how bad it stinks! See?!” (Because I used to be a smoker). I responded that it might actually smell worse to me than to her because of my ex-smoker status. She said, “Oh, I don’t know about that. It smells pretty fucking bad.”
Then, we got on a little discussion about how it fucking reeks and why the fuck would anyone suck that INTO their body...
Then, I made the joke that just the smell of it made me want to take a shit. Then, we got on a conversation about how smokers know cigarettes make them go poo. In fact, one smoker I know began smoking because she couldn’t shit and was concerned. So her sister gave her a cigarette and said, “This will make you shit.” It worked and that is actually why she started smoking. Not to be cool. She recently had a baby and stopped smoking and then had to go to the hospital for severe stomach cramps because she couldn’t shit again! They did a bunch of tests and couldn’t conclude anything specific. In the interim, she went back to smoking and now shits regularly again.
So, imagine how fucking toxic that shit must be. It has nothing to do with your bowels, but your bowels immediately release?
At this point, I realized that the woman in front of us was probably hearing everything we were saying and so I paused again to let her go up ahead without feeling heckled by a couple of nonsmokers behind her. Plus, her cigarette was revolting.
This is outside. Cigarettes stink outside, motherfuckers. The stench that releases bowels! Now that is a stench!
Anyway, then I basically said, “I think they should just flat out ban all cigarettes but then, I think about it and it becomes hard to justify. ‘oh, it pollutes the air?’ Well, if you ban cigarettes, then you’ve got to ban cars, jets and industrial pollution. So that’s bullshit. ‘oh, but a lot of houses burn down due to careless cigarettes?’ That’s bullshit, too, because then you pretty much have to ban fire.”
There is no reason to really ban smoking. It is just the stupidest fucking pastime ever and maybe for that reason alone it should be banned. But, that’s not very free and would only create another illicit drug market.
I tried to explain the sort of “pleasure” of throat and chest seizing upon the inhalation of smoke, but as I was explaining it, I had to admit that even when you’re “enjoying” a smoke sometimes it disgusts you and you just have to put the thing out or take much smaller drags. It might possibly give you a little buzz, but it’s a sickening one if it does. The only thing it really does is replace each breath of life with a cloud of death. It really does nothing for you, which is quite amazing. Most other such body-destroying pastimes at least get you high.
“But, a good smoke is pleasurable.” Fuck that bullshit noise. The pleasure is an illusion which feeds discomfort and that is the inarguable fact of addiction. When you “enjoy” that smoke, take a moment to enjoy the realization that you have been brainwashed and continue to brainwash yourself into doing the stupidest thing ever: decreasing the quality of your life by clinging to the illusion that it is somehow increased. So, enjoy that hollow lie and realize that is the guilt a smoker is always running away from. He knows he is full of shit and feels threatened every time he lights up.
So....what did you used to smoke?
I bought a new brand of rolling tobacco Friday night: Midnight Special. I bought it because the convenience store down the street does not sell Drum, and I do not feel like paying $8 for 20 cigarettes, ever. Anyway, long story short, this stuff is nasty. Don’t do it.
What was most interesting to me, though, is the way the smoke smells pretty much like the smoke of a Camel Light, which I smoked for years and still occasionally buy for at-the-club purposes. (Hard to roll without a table, for me.) It’s the same cut of tobacco, and I suspect about the same grade. I have a personal policy never to smoke Camels (or any other brand of packaged, filtered cig) in my apartment, because they stink up the joint somethin’ awful and make me feel sick to sit in the fouled air. Decent-grade rolling tobacco does not do this. Getting a whiff of a package of Midnight Special tobacco is a clue to why. To smell this stuff alongside a package of Drum (or Bali Shag, which is a little mellow for me, or even the dreaded Gitanes rolling tobacco) is to smell the difference between actual tobacco that is meant to be smoked and industrial waste. The cheap stuff is just foul by comparison.
I put the smell test to my girlfriend, who does not smoke. Drum: “This isn’t bad. Kinda nutty.” Midnight Special: “Ok, that’s gross.”
Port Royal. Used to smoke Marlboro red tobacco but it got taken off the market.
As an ex-smoker I highly recommend Nat Shermans.
Delicious, powerful(well, all REAL tobacco is powerful. it’s fillers that are weak...) and they don’t have that “Good lord. I feel like I just ate a box of Hot Pockets!” feeling.
mttp WHERE DOES ONE SMOEK?
or, more locally, londoners: does nay cafe round TCR/UCL ect permit smoking these days?
I think I turned on a few people to Nat Sherman Naturals today. They’re awesome.
i don’t know who the fuck joe blow is but i kinda want to punch his precious little sensitive nose
You do not. But enjoy that hollow lie!
I was all about MCDs when I smoked.
Once in a while I would smoke Fantasias, just to be stupid...and have blue boogers. Those things taste gross.
jamaican mon
back when i did tobacco: mostly OPs or occ. export A
Gauloises Bleu, but really only for ‘practical’ purposes like to stay awake for another half hour or to poo or because i drank some beer. I maybe have a pack a month.
Due to being out of smokes and not leaving house yet today, I haven’t had any in about...15 hours. AI-YAI-YAI.
my new roommate and i are being bad and smoking
I am about to smoke some of the American Spirits from the yellow pack, bummed from roommate. Paint-scrapings reaction impending?
“Paint scrapings” implies that they have some sort of flavor.
Wow, yeah. They smell terrible before they’re even LIT, but smoking them is like nothing.
I smoked blue american spirits when I was cutting back. 4 puffs, knock off the cherry, blow out the smoke, wait 2 hours.
By the last few puffs they had a flavor.
from wiki:
Known Smokers [of American Spirits]
* Ryan Adams[2]
* Dana Applebaum
* Dave Attell
* Kate Beckinsale
* Marco Benevento
* Danny Bingo
* David Carradine
* Dave Chappelle
* John Cusack
* Bob Dylan
* Aaron Fein
* Biff Fines
* Ben Folds
* Marc Ford
* Meagan Good
* Gale Harold
* Jim Jarmusch
* David Kessler
* Curt Kirkwood
* Diane Lane
* Sam Leatherwood
* Lindsay Lohan
* David Lynch[3]
* Mana
* Augusto Maz
* John Mellencamp[4]
* William Merrell III
* Joni Mitchell
* Katherine Moennig
* Ronald D. Moore
* Viggo Mortensen
* Brian Murphy
* Sean Penn[5]
* Joaquin Phoenix[6]
* Zach de la Rocha[7]
* Tyler Satterfield
* Michael Stipe
* Cecil Taylor
* Jeff Tweedy
* Vince Vaughn
* Eddie Vedder[8]
* Noelle W.
* Mark Wahlberg
* Paul Wall
* Sawyer Weir
* Ron Wood
I am irrationally disappointed to see David Lynch on that list.
Badass like that should be smoking Woodbine.
To be honest, I imagine Lynch smoking Tarletons or some fucked up shit like that.
Yeah, that’s more OTM. Woodbine is a little too old-school.
In 2005, Meagan Good was nominated for Black Movie Award for Outstanding Performance by an Actress in a Leading Role for her role on D.E.B.S..
So, imagine how fucking toxic that shit must be. It has nothing to do with your bowels, but your bowels immediately release?
It’s a stimulant! Stimulants (nicotine, caffeine, cocaine) make you shit.
Also, I do in fact enjoy my cigarettes, but am not addicted. The only time I can smoke is after a few drinks. Sometimes when I’m sober I think, “Man, a cigarrette would be ideal right now,” but I know I couldn’t handle one without some alcohol in me.
Also: Camel Lights. Delicious.
ron wood otm
Does Wikipedia actually list what people are smoking what cigarettes? Because if there’s really someone else besides my grandfather who smoked Vantages, I’m gonna flip.
Wikipedia does not have an article with this exact title. Please search for Vantage (cigarette) in Wikipedia to check for alternative titles or spellings.
Phew.
Wikipedia only lists people who are smoking the most overrated cigarettes.
haha yeah.
Spirits didn’t give me that “Hot Pockets” feeling, but they were also an incredibly joyless experience.
Well, the amount of free stuff was nice, but...
It’s a stimulant! Stimulants (nicotine, caffeine, cocaine) make you shit.
Oh, so, I stand [i]un[/i]corrected. Thanks for clearing that up. Stimulants are toxic, and toxins are stimulatory. Stimulants increase levels of acidic waste products and other toxins.
Also, I do in fact enjoy my cigarettes, but am not addicted.
Ah, classic anecdotal “evidence.” I think we’ve all been there. “Learning” how to smoke is becoming addicted. Not being addicted would be not craving a cigarette after a few drinks. Tobacco addiction doesn’t necessarily mean you’re an instant pack-a-day smoker. The psychology of tobacco addiction is brainwashing. It’s a vice that mixes well with other vices. The physical addiction is quite easy to overcome.
Or, as a friend told my mother about 5 years ago, “Cigarettes are NOT addictive. I should know, I’ve smoked thousands of them!” This past summer, when I visited, he freely admitted he is massively addicted to both coffee and cigarettes as well as alcohol and pot, but he says, “I don’t care because I LIKE IT!” Genius! But, before I left, he did manage to squeak out the words, “Don’t you ever want a smoke? How did you quit?”
Look out, its Nude Spock everyone. How about that.
please just stop responding to him.
b-b-but what if this man speaks the TRUTH?!?
>> Not being addicted would be not craving a cigarette after a few drinks
According to this logic I’m addicted to kebabs.
i smoke chantix
you’re addicted to food fure sure
... and if you don’t think so, try going without food for the rest of your life. See the ridiculocity of comparing smoke with food?
the ridiculocity is hard to avoid.
expecially with smoked meats
OK “smoked meats” is the first OTM thing you’ve ever said.
Speaking of smoked meat, why do you think they call it “pole smoking?” Because smokers are gay unless they’re female. Then, they’re just cock whores. Stop smoking, gays and sluts!
or, more locally, londoners: does nay cafe round TCR/UCL ect permit smoking these days?
Italia Uno, on whatever Charlotte St turns into as it goes north.
peer pressure from jocks is 90% effective in having some adverse reaction. happy fire pig.
dear gays and sluts:
i love you!!!!
hearts,
ally
alright, I give up—the industry is on my back
xp—aww!!
IHTTP NEVER WORKS WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE BAN JOE BLOWZ
so what’s the trick?
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Because smokers are gay unless they’re female. Then, they’re just cock whores. Stop smoking, gays and sluts!
Dude!
IHTTP NEVER WORKS WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE BAN JOE BLOWZ
— a_p (a|e...)
so what’s the trick?
Ignoring him? Doesn’t work for me though. ;-)
You see these a lot in Tokyo. A no-smoking sign on the pavement.
“If it were anything but a cigarette, it would surely be crying.”
TEH PATHOS
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