“Yish you ish bam-bar-clart, yish?”
Biggest semantic overhaul in the UK since Estuary whiteboys started talking in Bangladeshi accents, surely?
Biggest semantic overhaul in the UK since Estuary whiteboys started talking in Bangladeshi accents, surely?
this happened?? AWESOME.
It was in the news a few years back!
and greeks, the b-boys of the med
“semantic”
Should have been “sociolinguistics”?
I will admit although I’d been aware of this trend for a few months now, I only started this thread after watching one of those awful “OMG CRIME WTF?” documentaries on Bravo.
“In Cardiff I’ve heard a number of accent mixes that weren’t previously heard before such as Cardiff-Arabic and Cardiff-Hindi.
This kind of blows my mind.
how bout “ethnovernacular”
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this = u&k obv
Patois is in the speech of all non-wealthy migrants to London under the age of 35...and most of the wealthy ones innit. My housemate Ayse, for example, is a Turkish drum’n’bass vixen from North London.
Turkish drum n’ bass could be fun
You don’t see enough written about or programmes made about the Turkish community in London, it’s massive
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I thought I invented “downlooted” yesterday, but Google says no :(
I poopoo google, and credit it to you.
Turkish drum n’ bass could be fun
NEEDS BEATS
A. tells me that when she was at this d&b club she caught some Turkish girl slagging off her DJ boyfriend, and this girl was acting clever because she thought nobody in the room understood her. A is very light for a Turk and surprised her with ‘WHAT DO YOU MEAN, SALAK?!?’ (‘salak’ means ‘idiot’ in Turkish).
oddly enuff last year i helped edit* a book abt the experiences of the first main wave of turkish cypriot immigrants (1935–65) into the uk
*(ie with technical editing stuff: i had zero qualifications in re special knowledge abt cyprus) (but it was v.interesting: one thing a lot of the older ones talk abt is the DEADLY LONDON FOG, now only available in basil-rathbone-plays-sherlock-holmes movies)
There was period about six to eight months ago when a load of the Turksih lads around Holloway adopted a sort of med-rockabilly/ twisted James Dean look. Didn’t last very long, which was a shame because they looked hella hot like that, even the not very attractive ones.
I miss Harringay :(
Anna, Ayse used to be a rockabilly before she discovered raving before she discovered dnb. And that is her manor.
The guy who works in the corner shop near me (on Green Lanes unsurprisingly) talks in this amazing Turkish / Bangladeshi / Jamaican / norf Landan crossover patois. I can’t understand a thing he says, maybe because I’m middle class.
He’s not Turkish, but I was looking after my very middle-class 12 year-old cousin the other day, and his friend came round. Instantly he starts talking in this ridiculous high-pitched Jamaican/hip-hop/fuck knows voice, all “Seen blud,” and “Cha, I was screwin, I’m gonna murk him”. He actually said to me “Yo Joe, make my lunchizzle, forshizzle!” It was hilarious and rather sweet.