BTW, I have the most WASP street cred of anyone on ILX.

that looks almost identical to the church i, um, just stopped going to at school. i think one of the trees is in a slightly different spot.

here’s my hometown’s graveyard, the “pioneer cemetery,” dating from the mid-nineteenth century:

Massachusetts? What town?

You’re probably right, Jon. I am v country & small-town & very A-S by birth, but the crazy Evangelicals thing is, while technically still white and Protestant, not of the Northeast variety.

bullshit

Its funny to see your depresso hometown now being more and more hammed up.

Here’s THE FISH LADDER by the SKATING/MILL pond in the downtown

http://www.pinehillequipment.com/denil_steep_fish_way.htm

Also, I was almost assaulted by a Church there.

(bullshit was to ‘anglo street cred’ and jon, not to you, laurel.)

“Felicity 1991”

“The Tavern in the background has subsequently burnt down. ”

View across little league field from parents’ house...

Jer, of course :D I’m secretly Irish catholic too

Looking down the river to the harbor + ocean

http://www.town.grafton.ma.us/Home/

neat! I don’t think I’ve been to your town jon, I drove through tiverton & fall river many times but not south of there..

plus fall river area seemed depressing as hell to me.. am I crazy? then again it’s always different if you actually know people there.

Straight Outta Little Compton

Ahh but do you have your own LIGHTHOUSE??

plus fall river area seemed depressing as hell to me.. am I crazy?

Tiverton and Fall River are like different worlds from where I live. They are super super depressing... There’s a lot of nice places in Tiverton though as you get more south.

then again it’s always different if you actually know people there.

I know very few people there.

no lighthouse but we used to have a castle

PARRY! THRUST::

Do you have MASSIVE CLIFFS OVERLOOKING BEACH?

No cliffs, all our rocks are worn down to BEAUTIFUL WHITE SAND BEACHES:

we have an indian reservation and a tas-t-pizza.

INLAND SEA, BITCHES

Jon, if I had a camera I could go outside and take pictures within walking distance of my house that would look just like the last four, and all the town lake ones up-thread...I just can’t find them online. Also, “white lake” somewhat harder to search for.

Also, yacht club!

I’ll take some when I’m home

And in the off-season, ICE SAILING:

Anyone want to rent our cottage next summer? It used to store carriages for The Cedars estate (most of estate no longer intact).

\

^^^^^^^Agate Harbor. Our place is about 80% of the way out the center peninsula.

Gorg!

Fishing boats! So charming, so old-world...so smelly, and dangerous, and unprofitable. Poor fishermen.

my next door neighbor is a fisherman: he named his boat after his two sons, because he misses them so much when he’s at sea.

Jon wins the church round, though — I grew up in a ’70s orange brick thing with funny angles. My parents have gone Lutheran in their old age (thank god), and now go here, but it’s not as impressive as the thread-opener:

They misspelled your name in the cottage photo, Laurel!

P.S. ihttp://www2.tech.purdue.edu/Eet/Facstaff/jmjacob/Biking/IN%20to%20LA-2000/2000-06-Here%20comes%20the%20mountains,%20CO.jpg

library:

NO WASP CRED (XP)

other library:

Library:

The Library opened in 1890. The building ... was a gift from lumber baron Charles Hackley to the City = awesome. Espesh since it’s made all of stone.

Haha, I know. But the house he built for his fam, and the neighboring matching one (The Hume House), are still around and preserved and renovated to period! And all wood, natch.

wow, incredible queen anne’s stuff:

Yeah, so much!! The Hackley Lib has a GLASS FLOOR in the 2nd floor stacks, too — huge plates of mottled glass laid over a cast iron grid. Trippy.

To be absolutely, scrupulously fair, that library isn’t in my hometown proper...but it’s the nearest one that you can’t read all of the books in before your childhood has ended, and my mother took us there every few weeks because the other libs sucked.

Laurel is starting to score points.

Jer and I have maaaad East/West bay beef

Points! I love points!

county courthouse

Also in fairness, Dan’s homeland is way more rural than mine.

currently town hall, formerly obscenely rich dude’s house:

library:

Also in fairness, Dan’s homeland is way more rural than mine.

points? :D

This might be the best one I’ve found yet:

I have never seen northern lights. Am beginning to think I need to.

formerly the back gate to the tenney castle, now entrance and driveway to an all girls catholic high school.

Laurel, how much for the cottage per month?

just north of town, driving through this or flying over it is great great:

this is now the local post office:

Jergins, will ask mother when she comes home. It’s a three-bedroom: one double bed, one set of bunks, and one daybed, I think? Plus sofa is a futon so overall I think you can sleep 8 there. Bathroom with shower, full kitchen with dishes, brick-lined firepit in the back. About 2 miles from Lake Michigan. When do you want it for? I don’t think it’s heated, FYI.

I’m missing the ‘rural parts’ here

It kind of turned into a WASP showdown, really. If you wanted properly rural, I could post lots of pictures of Montague farms...but that’s not really how or where I grew up, although lots of my classmates did.

Yeah, there’s not a lot of pictures of Dover Location, MI online. (SHOCKA!)

yeah a lot of this is not what i would call rural. our rural library = 1 story. brick. half consists of kids’ books.

ps the town in ma where i go to school looks rural but has a college and a theater festival, so it is full of rich artsy liberal retirees.

http://riroads.com/images/gilbert_stuart01.jpg

I WOULD HAVE SEX WITH HALF THESE WHITE GIRLS ;)

lol @ people thinking they’re from “rural” parts.

ahem

you get a buy

i’m sure as hell not claiming to hail from rural america but the thread title is how me yr rural parts, no? the parts i put up were about as rural (being the antonym of urban) as it got there.

xpost thx

HI DERE

i’m from sort of rural MD, so.. i mean, technically a city but a city of about 20K in a rural area. “appalachian american,” is that what they call it now?

Evan, I did say I was refraining of posting pictures of farmland and silos...but I could. Still, you and Dan will have to fight out the properly rural round. For starters, my home town = pop. 3000.

hometown ~8000

home county ~30,000

(I can break out stories about being snowed in for days on end IF I HAVE TO)

Wait, gbx where are you from? MT originally?

DON’T MAKE ME BREAK OUT THE STORIES etc.

Also, Dan, does that pop measure include the university? And are you counting Hght and Hncock as one town? I’m not sure how that goes.

i have been secretly hoping someone would post pictures of redneck depression-era kids with bid overalls and hair parted down the middle a la the little rascals or something.

Laurel: No, no U, and that’s just counting Ho-town. To say the two are the same town (even though they are about .1 mile apart) is SACRILEGE! Hockey, you see.

otto—will the late forties do?

Rural does not mean wilderness

maybe, i don’t know. someone else can tell you why.

xpost- no, it means of or characteristic of the country doesn’t it?

Farms are hardly wilderness, Jon. Actually by some lights they are the opposite, ie cultivated, inhabited land.

Rural does not mean wilderness

it doesn’t mean suburban either

Oh, sorry — I didn’t click on gab’s link. I’m lazy like that.

Laurel,

maybe spring, maybe summer. I’m always keeping an eye out for quiet inexpensive places to live and work, and damn if your house didn’t pique my interest.

Ah fuck those only two pics rule.

(those are keuka lake, n.y., and vicinity)

vineyards on the bluff:

the lake, wintertime (i knew people who walked across it when it was iced over, but i was a kid and not allowed to):

my elementary school:

wtf.

Mine. We should do a thread on THAT! Elementary schools!

BTW mine reeked of snobbery.

not far from my mom’s house:

HEY! My grandparents live in Little Compton! My grandfather (and me, obviously) is descended from Elizabeth Pabodie, daughter of John and Priscilla Alden (of Mayflower fame), who is buring in the Little Compton cemetary. It’s a cool little town, and Gray’s Ice Cream (best in RI) is right nearby.

We could always line up in order of number of relatives on the Mayflower passenger list....

I think that’s a great way to assign mod powers on ILX.

I might go take some pictures of my neck of the woods tomorrow.

In the meantime, this was the drive between my house and the nearest town, circa 1984:

this laurel and jw back and forth is killing me

who will win crown of whitest person alive?

you have taken digital pictures there it is not rural

daguerreotype-friendly = woodsy exurban

I think I actually copped to being the whitest girl in the world on another thread — the Michigan pride one?

I lost my double-overhead surf virginity in Little Compton, of all places.

did it hurt?

BTW, I have the most WASP street cred of anyone on ILX.

O RLY?!!?

damn you, rogue Italian genes

who has the LEAST wasp cred on ilx?

pictures of canada is basically cheating, dude

“BTW, I have the most WASP street cred of anyone on ILX.”

As my father Saxton Ashley Seward might say: Ha! You wish!

Canada is like 75 per cent urban, how is that cheating?

The Potomac Lake in Gunnersbury Park, I think that’s a packet of dog biscuits in the foreground.

Try again:

Wow, this thread led me to search for my Dad’s village online and I think I’ve found a photo of my great-grandad we didn’t know existed. If it is him, he’s the one with the big drum.

Not lighthouse, but at least fog bell:

ihttp://www.fyr.no/fyra/elle/elle.jpg

1776 church (admittedly not in ruralest of area):

ihttp://www.netup.no/frogn/images/kirke.jpg

I lack the AS part of WASP credentials.

Fort wot sunk hueg invading German boat:

ihttp://files.myopera.com/larseld/albums/17356/thumbs/Oscarsborg.jpg_thumb.jpg

Laurel, I was reffering to gbx’s montana photos.

I like this idea of Mayflower moderators; no britishes! I think I have 3 distinct Mayflower familial lines

the mayflower idea is great. how do i find this out? or should there be a family tree plaque in broad display on my parents’ mantle, over the fireplace, guarded by our watchdogs?

my dad can trace his lineage to the mayflower, i think. my mom can trace hers to, uh, Flight XXX in 1970something.

can we have a 2007 DAR calendar? with historic-reenactment shots?

under an hour from Seattle, on an alluvial plateau rich in volcanic soil (which may one day again be refreshed), with a history of cooperative enterprises and a city hall designed after Monticello, adjacent to the Muckleshoot Indian Reservation, hometown of the driver of the #9 car, Kasey Kahne, and home of the King County Fair, ladies and gentlemen, Enumclaw, Washington...

Just wondering: what if your earliest known ancestors were Huguenots who arrived *before* Mayflower?

Then you might as well be Squanto.

the mayflower idea is great. how do i find this out? or should there be a family tree plaque in broad display on my parents’ mantle, over the fireplace, guarded by our watchdogs?

Real descendents of the Mayflower families just know, from the day we’re born. You can tell by the spring in our collective step and the air of disdain about our noses.

The French aren’t white.

Just wondering: what if your earliest known ancestors were Huguenots who arrived *before* Mayflower?

There were plenty of English in the Colonies before the Mayflower as well. Plenty of Religious radicals among them. The mayflower justmakes a good founding myth.

Also DAR criteria is that your ancestor/s to have settled before 1770s (my friend N and I had this discussion last year as her hubby is descended from first governor of Plymouth pilgrims or summat).

Huguenots started as Swiss Calvinists actually, and numbered amongst themselves the Flemish and the French as well.

Mayflower Society membership is a big joke, basically. There are publicly available records (for a small price, I think?) of the first 7 or 10 generations of post-Mayflower, but after that finding the proof is up to you. In my fam it’s an oral tradition but I’m almost positive we don’t have the documents to back it up for every generation.

my aunt is an amateur genealogist — we are PAPERED

AKC registered, even!

Also my surname and the bulk of my ancestry that isn’t English were Scottish textile workers who ended up mining coal in PA when the mills closed, so genealogical snobbery is pretty much not on their agenda.

THIS IS THE ONLY “MAYFLOWER SOCIETY” THAT MATTERS, WASPS:

http://www.mayflowercorgiclub.org

I have one branch of my lineage cataloged back to domesday unbroken; and with a few breaks, back to roman times.

1770 = WEAK ASS SHIT

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myles_Standish

^ ancestor iirc

Aren’t you posh? And just possibly, horribly inbred. Friend in junior high had same problem, although her ancestor was William the Conqueror.

I’m only 25% Britishes, so I’m only 25% inbred.

OH NOES WHY DID WINKY SMILE EMO DISAPPEAR FROM POST? Sorry Jon!

Hey jon—MY ANCESTOR STOLE YR ANCESTOR’S GIRL:

Priscilla is last recorded in the records in 1650, but oral tradition states that she died only a few years before her husband (which would be about 1680). She is known to literary history as the unrequited love of the newly-widowed Captain Miles Standish, the colony’s military advisor, in Henry Wadsworth Longfellow’s 1858 poem “The Courtship of Miles Standish”. According to the poem, Standish asked his good friend, John Alden, to propose to Priscilla on his behalf only to have Priscilla ask, “Why don’t you speak for yourself, John?”.

So I guess my ancestors won. Alden, btw, was a non-Puritan barrel maker.

this is the yacht club that my great-grandfather founded:

this is the town in connecticut that my family helped to found in the 1600’s:

my grandfather and his father and his father before him and on and on lived in sachem’s head, which is a part of guilford, connecticut. you won’t read about it much. veeeeeeeeeeeeeery private:

guilford is great in the fall. anytime really:

loved my summers there growing up:

Guilford makes me think of Fugazi

it’s right on the long island sound. my grandparent’s house was right on the water. so much family there when i was a kid and now there is only one cousin left. people pay up to a 100 grand in taxes a year to live there(!!). sachem’s head was actually created by the same glacier that gave birth to martha’s vineyard where i live now. very similar topography. my maria is a mayhew related to thomas mayhew, the “founder” of martha’s vineyard. course both places were heavily populated by indians. none left in guilford but they are still here on MVI.

Skot, all those pics look colorized!! Wow.

i got them from flickr. dude might have worked on them. i don’t know. if it weren’t for flickr i wouldn’t be able to find ANY good pictures of the place. like i said, very private. not a big web presence.

Scott, is Guilford one of those places like Fenwick?

i don’t know fenwick. guilford used to be ultra-WASPY old school tie yale alumni types, but most of those families died off/got old and moved/couldn’t afford to live there any more like my family and now it is mostly just your standard run-of-the-mill rich people who live there. the only reason i was there recently was to bury my grandmother in the old cemetery. all my ancient relations are buried there. and my sister. and my grandfather.

Argh I meant Old Saybrook, AKA where Hepburns roamed back in the day.

I am by blood a 16th-generation descendant of Vasco Nuñez de Balboa, who isn’t white but might as well be; I am by adoption a shirttail relative of the Hapsburg clan. If something like 174 strategically-placed relatives were to die, my english/colombian halves would be reconciled, and I could be the single highest ranking figure in two extinct and irrelevant families. Blood and title restored, ancient legend holds that the force of seventy amazonian Jaguar ladies would bend knee in fealty to me, and the Swiss clock guards would pay eternal homage to my home, legacy, and possessions. Subsequently my blood would flow like molten ore, and the force of ten armies would do my psychic bidding.

Also I could fly.

now if you REALLY want rural, you should see where maria grew up in montana:

right smack dab in the middle of the bitterroot valley surrounded my mountains:

i think katherine hepburn was originally from east hartford. that’s where maria’s mother’s family was from.

i grew up in brookfield connecticut. right next to danbury on one side and right next to new milford/litchfield county on the other side. i grew up swimming in a huge man-made lake called candlewood:

the still river went thru our town and we were right up against the housatonic river as well:

“img src=”http://farm1.static.flickr.com/48/140778017_ef9b1274ff.jpg?v=0“>

woops:

my ‘hood:

like, literally. that church was across the street from my house.

True. Hepburns pretty nouveau for East Hartford and it was actually her mum that was the uber-WASP but from NY. Fenwick/Old Saybrook was where they originally went to ‘summer’ and then got attached to it.

We’ve got a teeny weeny Anglican church next to my house in MN which is also clapboard, but not so old. It reminds me of the Little House on the Prairie church.

1 ADAM De KARI b: 1170 in Castle Kari, Somerset, England

+ Amy Trevitt—Father: William Trevitt

Castle Cary is situated in Somerset, twelve miles south east of Wells. There was a former stronghold known to have been fortified in the time of Saxons. About the year 1125, the Lord William Percival named ‘Lovel the Wolf“ erected strong fortifications at Kari from which the name is taken.

Much of the time during the reign of King Steven (1135–1154) the Barons were divided into two parties, The Lord Kari being opposed to the King. He made so much trouble that Stephen turned his whole attention to Castle Kari and took it. In 1153, it was beseiged again and nearly ruined.

The Manor House stands on the east side of the street and was a stately edifice. During the wanderings of Charles II, when his army was defeated by Cromwell at the Battle of Worchester, the disguised King slept at Castle Cary on the night of 3 Sept. 1651.

Reign of Henry II and Richard I.

“Prince says: ‘On the fifth of November, 1387, he was by the King Richard II, made Chief Baron of the Exchequer, and advanced to be a Judge of the land; who being now placed in a high and spacious Orb, he scattered the Rays of Justice about him with great splendor. In his post he continued many years, manifesting in all his actions, an inflexible Virtue and Honesty; and indeed it fell out at last that he had an extraordinary occasion laid before him, for the proof and tryal thereof, upon which we find him as true as steel, for the greatest dangers could not affright him from his duty and Loyalty to his distressed Master, King Richard II, unto whom he faithfully adhered when most others had forsaken him.’ After the king was put to death by Henry IV, Sir John was banished and all his goods and lands confiscated for his loyalty to his royal master.
Westcote says: ‘I will speak of Sir John Cary, Baron of the Exchequer in the time of Richard II. This knight neither able nor willing, like a willow, to bow with every blast of the wind, so confidently and freely spoke his mind, opposing the proceedings for procurators to take the resignation of his master, King Richard, his true and undoubted Sovereign, that there-upon he was dis-officed, his goods and lands confiscated, and himself banished.“
He was banished to Waterford, Ireland, where he was no less than 4 years in banishment. A long time living, to be confined to the shades of misery and sorrow.

He lived during the reigns of Edward III and Richard II

RUNS IN THE FAMILY

1.) JOHN CARY MASSACHUSETTS (c1610–1669)
John CARY was born near Bristol, Somersetshire, England, about 1610; came to America about 1634, joined the Plymouth Colony, and made his home at Duxbury, where he had a farm. In 1644 he married Elizabeth,
daughter of Francis and Elizabeth GODFREY (who was a carpenter and bridge builder, and in August, 1643, we find his name on the muster roll of the Duxbury Company commanded by Capt. Myles STANDISH; he removed to Bridgewater where he died in 1669; it is thought that the name GODFREY comes from the Duke of Bouillon, the Crusader).
Concerning John CARY, Moses CARY has this: “Mr. Cary was one of the Proprietors (of Bridgewater), and one of the first settlers, and was very useful among them. The town was incorporated in 1656. Mr. CARY was the first Town Clerk and continued in that office a great number of years.

Hmmm, my parents are from Bridgewater.

the bitterroots are ace.

Was the village of Castle Cary not where they filmed Doctor Doolittle?

I thought you had to prove ancestry from someone who fought in the American Revolution to join the DAR? My great-aunt did the research, but then decided she didn’t really want to join.

maria’s mom lives in dexter oregon now:

PCU-spade.jpg time

and maria’s dad lives in plainfield mass on top of a mountain in this house:

may parents live in greenwich new york now:

“MY” parents, that is. good apple country. really quite lovely. right next to saratoga and right over the line from vermont.

Dude... I’ve seen this house!!!

how!!?? it’s totally in the woods on top of a little mountain. it’s also right next to this place: http://www.earthdance.net/

like, RIGHT next door. they share a lawn. contact improv hippies. *hubba hubba*.

did you see it in a dream? it IS a new age retreat. maybe your third eye was projecting.

things I know about my ancestors:

1. Rosselots, Huguenots who settled in Ohio as detailed by my recently-deceased grandmother in an extensive family tree that I can’t seem to find at the moment, I know it’s around here somewhere

2. Alexander Stephens was vice-president of the C.S.A.

3. not much else

“Our new [Confederate] government is founded ... upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery—subordination to the superior race—is his natural and normal condition”

oh, nth-great-grandpaws

maybe i am confusing it with the castle off the mass pike

my grandmother was part of the IODE, the canadian DAR, her gret grandmother was a united empire loyalist, coming north from the united states because they liked george the third more than the revoultion. they came from scotland to the colonies v. early, as calvinists...not quite huegonts, but defitnely early