Low budgets British comedies about “raving” disqualified, btw.

“Ursula Andress was the quintessential Bond girl. That’s what everyone says. The embodiment of his superiority to us: beautiful, exotic, highly sexual and yet unavailable to everyone but him. Shite. Let’s face it: if she’d shag one punter from Edinburgh, she’d shag the fucking lot of us.”

bbbut empire records was well aged when it came out.

how about ‘singles’

SFW, that one with Janeane Garofalo and Ethan Hawke, Hackers, The Net

Go

Basic Instinct, obv.

Oddly enough, “Slacker” is still timeless.

Single Fight Wemale?

airheads

any of the billion heist-gone-wrong tarantino knockoffs

Reality Bites, for sure.

Any Tarantino Film for that matter

any of the billion heist-gone-wrong tarantino knockoffs

yessss, the ‘indie crime film’, ay ay ay.

love and a .45!

So I Married an Axe Murderer. Mike Myer’s hair in that film is very early nineties. And painful.

Watch It
Threesome

Freejack / Johnny mNeumonic?

Who would have known that Hackers would stand the test of time so well?

Disclosure

Jacob otm.

“It’s got a killer refresh rate!”

I love dated 90’s movies.

Before Sunrise is 90s as hell, by the sheer force of Ethan Hawke’s hair.

Pump Up the Volume

hal hartley films

We watched “Dazed & Confused” the other day. A film made in 1993 about 1976 but for some reason predicts hipster fashion of 2006 almost to a T. So much so that the “LOL didn’t people dress funny in the seventies” thing is completely lost on us nowadays. Also, it’s a shit film.

no YOURE a shit film

SFW = so fucking what

Also, it’s a shit film.

Is that british for “really awesome” because then I totally agree!

i didn’t really like it that much. what was up with the ending? the kid just goes to bed and that’s it!

Biodome

Wayne’s World (tho Ed O’neil is still funny)

what was up with the ending? the kid just goes to bed and that’s it!

oh for fuck’s sake...

So I Married an Axe Murderer = yeah, although it takes place less in the 90s than in that weird personal fantasy-90s (invariably placed in San Francisco), which makes it somehow dated in exactly the right way.

And totally, Empire Records was kinda reverse-dated from the beginning, in terms of it pandering to a youth culture it didn’t necessarily get, and therefore having the same weird distance and fakeness of normal “dated” stuff — I saw it again a few months ago, though, and it was totally compelling. (Also funny how apart from one minorly successful character actor, all the young men in the movie have vanished, whereas the young women have all gone in the opposite direction: I mean, okay, Liv Tyler was huge already, and I remembered that it was Robin Tunney shaving her head, but I appreciated having a whole “OMG WTF that was Zellweger???” moment.)

What these two movies have in common: ANTHONY LAPAGLIA.

dog latin: do you appreciate any other linklater movies?

it’s dog latin

jesus christ dog latin

i just checked his filmography and believe it or not i haven’t seen any of them.

xpost

WHAT? WHAT?!

dazed and confused is a shit film?! my mouth = moving, no words.

http://www.criterionco.com/asp/release.asp?id=336

Hackers did age pretty well

an ilxer auditioned for hackers!!

omg

I’m going to take a stab in the dark and assume that all the people going “Dog Latin! LOL!” instead of actually writing, y’know, sentences that make sense, are big fans of “Dazed And Confused” and feel that my saying that I didn’t like it very much is some big movie faux pas.

Okay maybe it wasn’t shit. If it had been shit I wouldn’t have watched the whole thing. But really, what makes this superior and funnier than any other vaguely stoner-ish teen movie. Better than Wayne’s World, Harold And Kumar, How High, Friday, Bill And Ted’s Excellent Adventure and Cheech & Chong? Better than any other high school movie of it’s time?

There was little plot to speak of, I didn’t really notice many jokes either, unless you call young boys being physically abused with cricket bats funny.

BUMPADDLE

HACKERS

then again, i was stoned when i watched it so maybe you need to be sober to enjoy it.

There was little plot to speak of, I didn’t really notice many jokes either

This reminds me of something else...

If you didn’t notice plot or LOLOMG jokez, why compare it to various stoner comedies that are all about plot and LOLOMG jokez?

cant hardly wait

No mention of Son In Law yet?

Dig deeper, DL—you’re almost thru to China!

Go seems kind of dated, with the raving and everything.

hmmm would swingers qualify..

Yes. Sega Genesis NHL, chain wallets, BIG BAD VOODOO DADDY, Lauren Graham

a slim Jon Favreau...

skinny Vince Vaughn

Sega Genesis NHL

Mallrats

HEATHER Graham

close enough

WHOS YOUR FAVORITE NEW KID

Yeah, call me Joey. Oh, come on. Don’t make me get loose. Yeah, that’s right. Call me Donnie. Oh, girl. Oh, please don’t go girl.

milo, you don’t know how wrong you are.

swingers is a pretty bad movie

The Doom Generation

Hackers did age pretty well

You’re in the butterzone now, baby.

I still like the Crow.

Fortunately, I never saw any of the sequels.

Oh right, and not to restart the whole Swingers vs. Singles debate where y’all fucks revealed your deep psychotic natures and for some reason thought Swingers was better (seriously, I lost all respect for everyone that day), but seriously: Singles is really not dated! Not in a pop-cultural sense, anyway. I mean, there are a lot of really time-specific things in it (grunge band, duh), but they’re treated naturalistically enough, just as background and color, that they just seem period-appropriate, not the kind of “look how hip and modern it is” that dates really wildly. Story-wise ... you could just rewardrobe everyone and it’d function just as precisely as a current film. (In fact I think it’d be more successful as a current film, to be honest, what with its slight proto-Braffian qualities) (though we’re talking proto-Braffian without the cutesy mugging and sappiness and all the offensive things about Braffianness.) Seriously, Singles is really great and probably one of the films I’m fondest of, and claims that it’s “dated” are more dependent on associating it with a dated moment (cf Douglas Coupland), or a dated period of one’s own development (cf “I liked Coupland when I was 17, but not anymore”), despite the fact that its content is fairly straightfoward and unconstrained by time, and if you made it today (and just changed the obvious signifiers, like grunge band becomes jangly indie band) I’m sure people of a certain age would be just as quick to feel the same sort of moment-specific kinship with it.

NB screaming trees >>>>>>>>> the shins

spin doctors, screaming trees and soul asylum...one of 1993’2 greatest concerts and i was there...ugh.

OPO: CITIZEN DICK

I must’ve missed the case of Swingers v Singles, as I will always testify in favor of Singles.

all I remember about Singles—Bridget Fonda was cuet. Was The Piven in it?

If any of you would like to help me mentally re-cast Swingers as its 2006 equivalent, please feel free. I feel like Leelee Sobieski will wind up in Bridget Fonda’s place, but Campbell Scott turns out to still be the official Campbell Scott model, and I’m not sure the cultural role of Being Eric Stoltz even exists in the new century.

Pardon me, I meant Singles!!! Swingers 2006 would probably star the same dicktards as before, only fatter now.

Eric Christian Olsen

BTW NABISCO IS SO NOT MONEY

Swingers = scab on humanity’s withered asshole.

god people dressed so awesome in 92–93!

hahahahaha you’re so money Ned

What does swing become in nu-Swingers? What do douchebag late-20s wannabe-actors listen to now?

ys

The Shins, duh.

The Shinys.

What does swing become in nu-Swingers?

Bluegrass / country

the new swingers will take place entirely in apartments with WoW players/cosplay geeks.

Plus the dudes in Swingers weren’t all into swing, or anything, it was just a convenient dating backdrop. They came off more like late-breaking Pearl Jam / Beastie Boys / listen-to-Dre-before-going-out guys.

There was little plot to speak of, I didn’t really notice many jokes either

This reminds me of something else...

— Dom Passantino (juror...), December 20th, 2006.

i.e. Dom Passantino’s ILX posts 2000-present

Go seems kind of dated, with the raving and everything.

because people don’t go raving anymore...

but i do know what you mean. then again that film came out in, maybe 1996? so to brits i suppose a film about raving was already dated. then again we made human traffic after that and that blew more than any film ever.

proto-Braffian qualities

!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Suburbia. Also shit.

Sad thing dating Go: it was made back during the glorious dreamy days where a person could look forward to seeing Sara Polley in a film. :(

(After seeing that Hal Hartley movie she was in, I think I decided she was basically the Jared Leto of women: i.e., so pleasant to look at that in every film they’re inevitably beaten, tortured, or subjected to some other form of bodily distress — has Jared Leto ever been in a film where he doesn’t wind up bloodied or strung out or dead?) (I think this role is being passed along to James Franco, though.)

Spiceworld, probably.

the new swingers will take place entirely in apartments with WoW players/cosplay geeks

No, that’s the plot to ILXors.

dog latin: rent one Slacker.

I met my fiancé at a HACKERS 2 drinking game party. Perfect start.

You wastrel, you drunkard. Well done.

I think Singles is the only non-nauseating movie Cameron Crowe has ever directed, but I think I only think that because of Campbell Scott.

I’m really glad no one has taken any shots at Clueless. best 90s movie evah!

even by the standards of mr. crowe, singles is a warm bucket of watered-down urine. only defensible if you got lucky at the end of the date.

(ha, we disagree)

also, nabisco, any female actor is liable to be the Jared Leto of women in the sense you describe...he’s more like the chick of male actors.

any of the billion heist-gone-wrong tarantino knockoffs

— a mediocre black-and-white cookie in a cellophane wrapper (slytus...), December 20th, 2006.

otm

haha wrt Hackers, I remember when I first saw it thinking “man, we will never see any of these kids in any movie ever again, will we?”.

Killing Zoe

i was hoping the new millennium would eliminate the need for gerund-noun movie titles but sadly...no.

chasing amy

Coming in 2007, Rob Schneider in ... Making Copies.

Let us allow, though, that gerunds are particularly suited to film titles, because they are nouned-out versions of verbs, and of course people want their films to be about active verb-type processes, which, when observed through a camera and then titled, are inevitably going to wind up gerunds. Gerunds and film just go hand in hand. The very first films ever — isn’t the first one “Man Washing a Horse?”

Like a still image is titled after the things in it — “Man with Guitar” — but then as soon as you add motion it becomes “Man Playing Guitar.”

Coming in 2006: Nabisco IS ... Explaining the Obvious.

“streaking athlete” I thought?

& also, fuck ‘washing a horse’

well i wasn’t referring to gerunds being used within titles, i was lamenting the overuse of “single gerund, single noun” titles such as Chasing Amy, Finding Forrester, etc.

there was a period (mid-late 90’s) where every other movie coming out seemed to have one of those titles.

I’m really glad no one has taken any shots at Clueless. best 90s movie evah!

AMAZING movie and filmed on my college’s campus.

Gerund-noun Titles:

Chasing Amy

Killing Zoe

Finding Forrester

Boxing Helena

Raising Arizona

Driving Miss Daisy

Guarding Tess

Leaving Las Vegas

Saving Private Ryan

Being John Malkovich

Saving Silverman

Finding Nemo

chasing miss daisy

killing nemo

driving john malkovich

i remember when GO came out i thought it was totally BADASS.

Assuming that the plots as well as the titles are combined, Boxing Miss Daisy would be the most disturbing movie I could imagine.

Ned is SO money.

i remember when GO came out i thought it was totally BADASS.

— maunders (mandeewrigh...), December 20th, 2006.

lol me too. FWIW it’s actually a pretty good pulp fiction ripoff.

driving john malkovich

that works, actually

Teaching Mrs. Tingle

Gerund-noun Titles:

No, those are just verbs.

A gerund actually functions as a noun. “Fishing is peaceful.”

Ok, I’m done.

No I’m not. Even nabisco got this wrong. “Man Washing a Horse” is not a gerund, because “washing” is the verb. Likewise, “Regarding Henry” is not a gerund because even though it’s not specified, someone or something is regarding Henry. Still a verb. If the film title were, “Regarding Is An Activity I Most Enjoy,” then it would be a gerund.

Yes, it can act as a verb within a clause, as it can be modified by an adverb or have an object.

Hm. Complicated. Maybe it can act as a verb as well, but what makes it a gerund is that its primary function in the sentence is that of subject.

Umm, no, Kenan, I think you’re just wrong here: the word’s a gerund whether it itself is being used as a noun or whether it’s part of a clause that functions as a noun.

If the word “washing” in “Nabisco washing a horse” were actually a verb, then “Nabisco washing a horse” would be a complete sentence. And it’s not a complete sentence, because it’s a gerund.

In order to be an proper verb, and not a gerund, the “washing” in there would actually need a helper — it’d be “Nabisco is washing a horse” or “Nabisco was washing a horse.”

(Wikipedia will back me up on this: In today’s English, it [a gerund] can behave as a verb within a clause (so that, for example, it may be modified by an adverb or have an object), but the clause as a whole (sometimes consisting only of one word, the gerund) acts as a noun within the larger sentence. I.e., the fact that it can do that doesn’t make it not a gerund anymore.)

P.S. Also all the others here are interpreted by normal English speakers as straightforward gerunds! Nobody sees the title Finding Nemo and interprets as some sort of sentence fragment! [(A Bunch of Fish Are) Finding Nemo??] Any native speaker is going to interpret it as being about the act (a noun) of finding Nemo.

P.P.S. You’re right about Regarding Henry, though, but not because it’s a verb. The title isn’t meant to be about the act of Regarding Henry, like sitting there looking carefully about him — it’s supposed to come off as phatic speech, like “regarding your memo of 12/4” or About Last Night. So while I guess you might read it as a gerund, it’s definitely intended as a preposition.

I see. So because it’s not a sentence, only a clause, it still needs a verb to make it not a gerund. Because “man washing a horse” is a noun clause, so it’s a noun in its totality, so it’s a gerund. I understand.

Getting education from ILX since 2003.

Learning Shit

n1tsuh laudandum est

(that’s a gerundIVE, btw)

GO was dated as soon as it came out imho. i remember i was 14 at the time and i was all like “lawl this is so 1998” :‘(((

imho reality Bites + Threesome own this thread

Social snobery. A gerund ‘cuts’ a gerundive

The gerund attacks some peaceful pronouns

i like Swingers; yes, the swing thing is a complete backdrop to this, and generally speaking I think the dialogue in it is pretty funny.

What about Showgirls?

Threesome, ugh.

Showgirls is timeless, evergreen, and beyond this thread.

Why are Jon Stewart and Ben Stiller talking specifically about gerunds tonight? If I were on acid, this would be freaking me the fuck out.

Kicking & Screaming is what I think of when I think of 90s mediocrity (the decent reviews this received baffle me to this day, it’s all so ineffectual and blah)

I love Kicking and Screaming! and I have watched it, uh, more recently than the ’90s.

The very first films ever — isn’t the first one “Man Washing a Horse?”

I was once reading an old newspaper from the 1900’s or 1910’s, and there was an ad for a cinema, and among the films they were showing was one titled Negroes Stealing Melons, Chased by Ghosts. Clearly that was the Snakes on a Plane of its era.

haha aidsy! i love those.

still funny:

http://www.mcsweeneys.net/

FAVORITE GERUND

MOVIE TITLES,

UN-GERUNDED.

BY IAN CAREY

-—- -

Rita, Educated

Forrester Found

I Served Sara

Raoul Was Eaten

The Stone Is Romanced

We Have Raised Arizona

The Waves Are Broken

I Drove That Old Bitch Miss Daisy

Helena Is in a Box and We Made This Piece of Shit Movie About It

Harry Deconstructed

Mona Is in the Process of Being Drowned

We Left Las Vegas, After Getting Totally Wasted

Home Stolen

Kill Zoe (Vol. 1)

Henry Was Regarded

Ryan Saved Privately

Isaiah Is or Has Been Lost

John Malkovich Has Been Been

The Cube, Gleamed

ENRQ (miltonpinsk...), August 10th, 2004.

driving john malkovich

that works, actually

Especially if we assume “malkovich” is some Eastern European slang word for “crazy”.

im a big kicking and screaming fan too...i watched it a few months ago again when it was released on dvd.

“They’re forming some sort of megaperson!”