Gather those Reese’s Pieces. And don’t fuck with the Jews.
or truckers.
RIP
And fuck one dad.
jesus, this is awful ; (
i can only try to imagine what could have been...
The RIP was enough, guys.
you can’t dictate when my tears will flow and for whom
I was heartened to read recently that mammoth bore Jacques Rivette called Spielberg “an asshole” (he prefers James Cameron).
^Rapozer with first post to follow “RIP,” so APPARENTLY NOT
Are Cameron’s movies longer then Spielberg’s?
Aliens was longer than Jaws
I expected more acrimony on this thread.
you don’t need to buy him anything, morbs.
Haha, where Morbius? (and fuck the Rivette haters)
xpost
I was thinking of a DO NOT USE HANKS OR CRUISE reminder card.
Colin:
I can’t wait for Thomson’s wunderkind-turned-75 in 2021.
*er, Thomson’s wunderkind-turned-75 essay in 2021.
Jacques Rivette called Spielberg “an asshole” (he prefers James Cameron)
He prefers Verhoeven to either.
yeah, well...
Of course, I don’t know what he’s going on about in the first place. They’ve all made bad movies in the past.
Plus, he’s right x 1 million about this one:
Funny Games (Michael Haneke, 1997)
What a disgrace, just a complete piece of shit!
I have had two people comment on my resemblance to Steven Spielberg in the last year. Don’t see it myself, except we’re both bearded blondish hebes.
he’s filming nazis in heaven tonight :(
rivette’s takedown of Joe Mank is masterful.
oh what a bummer ;_;
I understand he’s bequeathed his final, unfilmed project to Jean-Luc Godard.
On top of which the actress is awful, unwatchable, the most slovenly girl to appear on the screen in a long, long time. That’s why it’s been such a success with young girls, especially inhibited, slightly plump American girls who see the film over and over as if they were on a pilgrimage: they recognize themselves in her, and dream of falling into the arms of the gorgeous Leonardo.
i don’t even like kate winslet but fuck what an asshole.
otm, what a wanker.
he’s also wrong about melville.
Hey JD, he’s French.
Thread turned out rofflish, thx s1ocki and Eric!
i don’t even like kate winslet but fuck what an asshole
i sorta like kate winslet and his explanation there is far from his own
I heart Kate, not least because she looks like a normally proportioned lovely woman.
I didn’t hate it, but I was more taken with La Femme Nikita (1990) and The Professional (1994). I can’t wait to see his Joan of Arc.
heh
I think Titanic-era Winslet was very attractive (now, less so). Which wouldn’t have stopped her from playing “slovenly.” I guess he does say “the actress,” not the character, though, so it’s more likely than not that’s what he means.
jesus, this is awful ; (
what is ?
I admire him for sticking up for Sigourney Weaver.
Sticking up for Sigourney Weaver is one thing, sticking up for Alien Resurrection is a whole bag of wrong.
Seems like he entirely missed the point of Haneke’s Funny Games too.
sticking up for Alien Resurrection is a whole bag of wrong
OTM x 1000
Seems like he entirely missed the point of Haneke’s Funny Games too.
Could be, but he’s right about it being shit in any case.
Well not having actually seen it I guess I’m no position to argue that point.
And you’re more in a position to argue he missed the point?
Well I know that it was a comment on movie violence—on how excessive and pervasive it has become, and an attempt to indicate how repulsive such violence actually is—and I know I already find movie violence pretty distasteful so didn’t need or want to see it. Whereas Rivette seemed to just see it as a nasty violent film full stop.
Rivette, Eric breathlessly await Haneke’s US Funny Games with Naomi Watts. I merely await the Kennedy Center Honors special w/SPIELBERG to see if they restage the jitterbug from 1941 or Kate Capshaw’s “Anything Goes,” two of the greatest musical numbers of post-Golden Age Hollywood.
1941 is such a fun movie, my favourite Spielberg no doubt.
Amy Irving >>> Kate Capshaw
However, “Anything Goes” in Chinese is about the best thing ever.
Had Amy Irving or Kate Capshaw starred in Moulin Rouge it would’ve kept me from leaving after the first 20 minutes.
Capshaw is a better screamer (in Temple of Doom, not nec in wifely duties).
Moulin Rouge had far more problems than Nicole Kidman.
(than Nicole Kidman’s involvement in it, I mean)
ie ADD editing. And bad songs.
(Eric, I was gonna shoehorn in how my first viewing of All That Jazz in 20 years produced a bad reaction to Fosse Egomania, but I think I’ll wait for reg ILX to do it justice)
heard it all before, not interested
ah, so much for the how’d-the-surgeons-find-the-heart joke
hi dere
“No heart to burn.”
my favorite musical scene, unsurprisingly, is the Sally Rand/F104/meaningful looks ballet to Clair de Lune near the end of The Right Stuff (also stolen, mildly annoyingly, for the end of Ocean’s Eleven)
I quite like the musical number in Tank Girl. Perhaps because it is the only watchable part of the film.
I think it’s about time to take the kind out of that phrase...and arguably the winder too. I fucking adored AI tho.
well, I only used it cuz I started seeing his films when he was in his late 20s. (HIP *SNAPS*)
Fosse as The Snake in The Little Prince, is where it’s at:
Jaws fun fact: Roy Scheider (surprisingly credible) replaced Richard Dreyfuss (way too young if appropriately druggy and pudgy) in All That Jazz
who’s gonna helm ‘indie 4’ now?
No one, I hope (and that looks very possible; anyone but Spielberg will have the whiff of cash-in from the get-go):
http://imdb.com/news/sb/2006-11-08#film1
I’d much rather see the Lincoln movie.
lucas in weird shock.
Alien Resurrection >>> Aliens
buuuuuuulllllllshit
Lucas in having tastes in scripts shock.
spielberg should just film the lincoln movie using the indy4 script
I miss the Christopher Nolan to remake The Night of the Hunter with Vince Vaughn thread.
well, having taste to detect bad Frank Darabont scripts might not be beyond Lucas.
i think it’s good, that he went out on one of his best films.
“I don’t think so. ... I just think it’s fantastically bizarre that for a project that people have been trying to crack for ten years and have a writer come in and finally crack it and then ... [for Lucas to] say, ‘No, I don’t think so...’ It’s just bizarre to me.
His logic makes me wonder at how he sequenced his plot.
i bet the script was fine and lucas was just being a douche
i mean if there’s one guy you shouldn’t trust with a script
i bet the script was fine and lucas was just being a douche
He couldn’t find a way to graft some sort of Joseph Campbell/modern mythology onto it.
He couldn’t find a way to graft some sort of
embarrassingly obvious racial stereotypes onto it.
Stereotypes belong in Indiana Jones films (homage to ’30s serials, halloo).
and Darabont films.
touché
That Green Mile production still has been giving me teh rofflz for seven years now, and has incited impromtu caption contests that always begin: “Wit dis here finger ...”
“god, pull my finger”
boy I just love that Frank Darabont’s, how do you say, ouevre
so what stereotype is Morgan Freeman supposed to be exactly?
A black man in jail.
specifically, the only black man in Shawshank and, coincidentally, the only guilty man there
were those other prisoners not guilty?
interesting. So the steretype being reinforced here is that of... black men as prison-bound? (mid-century or now?) I’m sort of unfamiliar with that stereotype, I must admit, or at least its being widespread. But assuming for the sake of argument that it exists, how precisely is it reinforced by there being just a single black man amongst hundreds of prisoners, regardless of whether he’s a major character in the movie?
As far as the “only guilty man at Shawshank” goes, I could be charitable in supposing that you just didn’t pay enough attention to catch the hit-you-over-the-head point that it equaled the ‘only honest man at Shawshank’, but I admit that might not be what I really think.
Um, that was exactly my point. Black men in prison as being in their saintly element. I’m not retarded.
But hey, maybe Darabont’s got it in him to make as interesting a statement on race as Crash. We’ll just have to wait and see.
so the stereotype is that of a black man, in prison, who is a saint. I gotta say I’m even less familiar with that one. Though I may not be educated enough to know, as a non-xtian, what a ‘saint’ is.
I don’t think Darabont is especially interested in statements on race. But I wouldn’t know, given that I can’t imagine being able to watch more than 90 seconds of the Green Mile and am unfamiliar with anything else he may have done other than Shawshank, a not great but quite good movie.
the “magic negro” with the mysterious power to absolve/assuage the white man’s guilt is a totally common literary trope/stereotype wtf.
what “white man’s guilt,” precisely, is being assuaged/absolved in the Shawshank Redemption?
(see also “mammy”/fecund-earth-mother stereotype for black women—judging from the preview Cuaran’s “Children of Men” currently milks this one)
beats me I don’t watch Steven King movies. I was referring more to the Green Mile.
(which I have also not watched in its entirety—ha!)
wait—that was written by Stephen King too wasn’t it...? ah well
Actually, yes, there isn’t much white man’s guilt to be assauged in Shawshank, given Andy D. actually IS innocent.
I’m no fan of Shawshank, but it’s a masterpiece compared to The Green Mile, which doesn’t even have the decency to be as funny as that production still.
(someone plz link that Chappelle show bit between King and Paul Mooney...)
What the fuck happened to this thread?!?!
it got ILFed
countermeasures!
Shakey, is The Dead Zone a “Stephen King movie”?
I swore off any future Darablunt movies after Shawshank (it doesn’t surprise me that Demneb enjoys yuppie fairytales).
The Dead Zone is a Christopher Walken movie. Possibly a Cronenberg movie, too. Then again, “Stephen King movie” isn’t the first thing that flies into my head regarding Shawshank so please do not take this as answering for anyone but the vaguely rational.
“vaguely rational” sorta sums up Frank Darabont.
Stephen King movies were so uniformly good for the first decade that I think it’s great to refer to them as “Stephen King movies.”
So what night is Kennedy Center Honors on?
glad james brown wasn’t overshadowed by this.
Indy 4 has been announced as a go-ahead.
but WHOSE SCRIPT
acc to Variety, David Koepp.
hope you all made the Face
link to the Press Play series on Spielberg that started last week.
interview w/ Michael Kahn, who has edited all of his films since Close Encounters.
http://blogs.indiewire.com/pressplay/abf3f2b0-28f7-11e1-97b6-123138165f92
My local critic interviewed him a couple days ago. Spielberg outs himself again as the director of Poltergeist.
http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/12/16/2549234/steven-spielberg-strikes-back.html#storylink=misearch
Poor Tobe Hooper.
I really just can’t enjoy this guy’s movies. apart from Jaws, I guess.
can’t believe it’s been 6 years since he made a good film, longest stretch of his career! Tintin or War Horse better turn out well because i don’t want to have to wait until Lincoln to get my fix.
also I’m probably taking classes with Joseph McBride this semester, I hear he’s a real self-aggrandizing jerkoff. hooray!
Jaws and Jews: The Films of Steven Spielberg
I hate that Morbs loves this fuckin guy
Saw “War Horse” a few weeks back. Great looking, big and Ford-ian yet SUPER hokey in the character/acting dept. Possibly his most straight-up old fashioned picture.
just working on Bam biopic up there
Saw “War Horse” a few weeks back. Great looking, big and Ford-ian yet SUPER hokey in the character/acting dept. Possibly his most straight-up old fashioned picture.
This. I kinda dug it tho.
More than Ford, anyway.
I just do not see a lotta Ford in this movie, suspect it’s fueled by younger critics who’ve seen 3 Ford pictures.
Ford more for me in the visuals: obvious ottomh “How Green Was My Valley”, “The Quiet Man”, “The Searchers” (all in first “Countryside” section of film). Kubrick in second (War) section: “Barry Lyndon”, “Paths Of Glory” obv.
Have seen pretty much every avail. Ford pic, if that matters at all.
Also, not a critic.
Eric H—I dug it as well except for maybe that goddawful acting by the “French” farmgirl.
yeah, I didn’t mean you or Eric.
I thought of “Paths Of Glory” too, but perhaps inevitable if you’re doing a reverse dolly in a trench.
I guess that’s the White House theatre up there?
When I talked about Spielberg with my class on Monday—I showed them the second-shark-attack sequence, with the amazing reverse-zoom of Roy Scheider—I asked them how many had seen E.T.. Two or three hands went up, in a class of 24 (I teach grade 6). I find that amazing.
it is really never shown on cable or hbo, etc which always seemed strange to me. i guess maybe the rights are tied up?
very small pct of kids seem interested in anything that isn’t going on right now, unless parents foist it on them (which explains my friend’s 15-yo son whose favorite film is The Long Goodbye).
and that’s alright with me.
when was it ever any different
kids in the 80s didn’t get excited about watching old Flash Gordon serials, they were excited about ET and Empire Strikes Back
also ET is a shitty movie
It’s a very good movie, but it really isn’t very much of a kids movie IMHO
when was it ever any different
I hate to tell you Shakes but I know many kids from the ’60s and ’70s who were fully versed in Abbott & Costello, Our Gang, the 3 Stooges, Marx Bros, Laurel & Hardy, Chaplin, Lucille Ball, John Wayne etc.
that stuff was on TV all the time. ET is not.
how is ET a shitty movie? The writing, acting, and framing are top notch.
Yeah, ET is an actually great piece of filmmaking.
The biggest influence in kids’ movie taste is parental movie taste. Most parents probably don’t want to re-watch ET with their kids on account of it being really sad and also having seen it a bajillion times in their own life, and it being so ingrained in their own cultural DNA due to growing up at a certain/time place where it was ubiquitous.
ET is so cutesy it makes my teeth hurt
Not really.
One of the many things it nails is how kids are indifferent or cruel to each other, how adults condescend to children, and how siblings find recourses in each other.
Ouuuuch.
the kids are good, it’s more ET that I find irritating
shakey phone home
turn on your heartlight, grouchypants