no B & B Enterprises t-shirt?
thinking about season 4, it’s interesting how they’re still following pretty worn narrative arcs, but they do it with enough detail and subtlety that they don’t usually register as cliches. like the way all of 4 of the boys had at least one of the established characters try to adopt them to one degree or another: prez with dukie, cutty with michael, carver with randy and bunny with namond. and each of the 4 strands ends up somewhere different. very diagrammatic, but it doesn’t feel like it because the characters are all well drawn and played and none of the outcomes seems implausible (although it’s sad that the most positive outcome — namond’s — seems the least likely).
whoever said herc fucked up more than anyone will realize is totally otm.
It took a lot of scrolling through that In/Out list to find that particular reference.
Yes Herc fucked up—driving the narrative forward and all that. He’s easy to hate.
But that’s sort of the point—rather than delivering an easy plotline with clearly delineated characters, “The Wire” makes you question the idea of “watching”.
I think.
I’m not a media scholar,but i think that the whole point of the show IS to create questions that are not answered simply. or simply answered.
That’s probably about 100 xposts—and everyone else articulates it better than I do.
More importantly—do we have to move this thread, or what?
I’m sticking to my corner/sandbox. Unless someone tells me not to.
Don’t forget Bubbles’ boy, tipsy.
so—i’m commissioning an artist friend of mine to do up (depending on cost) maybe 12 Victorian-style portraits of characters from the wire.
having a hell of a time narrowing down the list.
STRING
imo the 12 would have to be: mcnulty, bunk, omar, stringer, avon, frank sabotka, kima, lester, carcetti, d’angelo, snoop, daniels
maybe swap one of those out for marlo
that’s a good list. fuck marlo, though.
to be clear i was suggesting 12 portraits of Stringer.
i would sub out daniels for bodie maybe
you can’t do this w/o bodie
maybe sub out lester or carcetti for bubbs. SOPHIE’S CHOICE.
hahah I was just gonna suggest taking out carcetti for bubbles
oh i totally meant to put bubbles and bodie in there and spaced. obviously this is harder than i was pretending it was.
can you afford to commission 15 portraits y/n?
15 portraits of string, i mean.
fuck it, i’m taking out stringer and avon and putting in ziggy and steve earle
ziggy is not a terrible choice and also suggest ban
i am always defending ziggy in wire threads but i mean as a ‘one of 12 faces to represent the show’ choice he’s definitely not a factor
i guess marlo should really be in there but then you’d have his horrible dead eyes staring at you all the time.
gimme one w/ n’amon w/ his fro blown out
thinking a portrait of brother mouzone w/ lamar behind him holding copies of harper’s and the nation
i would totes commission a victorian portrait of brother mouzone w/ lamar behind him holding a copy of SPIN’s “rap is having its DIY moment” issue
ugh how does some dude not want bubbles in there. though given his taste in tv he;d probably request a 13th of childish gambino
bubbles face looked super fake a lot of the time on the show imo
ugh how does some dude not want bubbles in there. though given his taste in tv he;d probably request a 13th of childish gambino
― regional pug (dealwithit.gif), Sunday, December 4, 2011 11:43 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink
he said he forgot bubbles and bodie!
i don’t know what fake means. they did a lot of makeup stuff with andre royo’s face in the first four seasons to make him look like an addict. bubbs is v handsome in season 5 though.
the make up was kinda weak some of the time
oh i see
idk i’m being a dick for no reason, carry on
but bubbles wouldn’t be in my 12
imo the 12 would have to be: mcnulty, bunk, omar, stringer, avon, frank sabotka, kima, lester, carcetti, d’angelo, snoop, daniels
― i already regret not just being ‘some dude’ again (Mr. Stevenson #2), Sunday, December 4, 2011 10:02 PM (1 hour ago)
get rid of kima and daniels and add bubbs and bodie
there’s so many fucking good characters on this show
holy shit guys.
my list:
Omar, Bubbles, Marlow, Bodie, Avon & Barksdale (possibly sharing a larger portrait), Rawls, Daniels, Kima, McNulty & Bunk (if we’re putting Avon & Barks together might as well pair these two i guess) and Carcetti.
that’s 12 people and 10 paintings.
others i’m considering based on how much money and wall space i have left (in order): Lester, another shared portrait with Snoop & Chris, Bunny, Slim Charles, Prop Joe, D’Angelo, Herc, Pearlman, Carver and Valchek believe it or not.
oh man, slim
that should be Avon and Stringer there. brain fart.
stringer is such a more interesting character than avon that it’d be insulting for him to have to share a portrait w/ avon
i’m so rewatching this over winter break, fuck it
i am doing that as i type.
there are many hours to rewatch!
i loved the duality of Avon & String in season 3—i’m 100x more committed to keeping them together than Bunk & McNutty.
xpost I HAVE 60 TELEVISIONS GOING AT ONCE, EACH PLAYING A DIFFERENT EPISODE
well get on with it then motherfuckers
^^ saddest moment of 21st-century tv
twice!
well get on with it then motherfuckers
― dr. strongo, Monday, December 5, 2011 1:24 AM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink
^^ saddest moment of 21st-century tv
― dr. strongo, Monday, December 5, 2011 1:25 AM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink
seriously think about this scene like once a week
can we rank our top 5 saddest deaths?
1 wallace
2 string
3 prop joe
4 bodie
5 snoop
easily the saddest part of the whole show is when the one kid becomes a heroin addict
:( i hate this fucking show
xp that would be dook, noob
horseshoe indulge me plz
forget about sobotka
dude like....idk i feel like he is essential for some reason even tho i never really personally connected with him
i think i’ll like him more the second time thru tho
ziggy still worst ever
hard to rank the deaths because wallace and to some extent d’angelo getting killed were shocks to me and then i was like, oh this is how this show works all the characters i love are going to die, so i was more prepared. having said that, stringer’s death is the saddest to me even though it’s a different kind of sad than basically everything that happens to the season 4 kids. also for some reason i’ve seen season 2 a lot recently and frank and ziggy really get to me. honestly every five minutes something gutwrenching happens on this accursed show.
i love the actor who plays frank sobotka’s sad scared defiant face so much.
yeah i mean i feel like wallace is the most “NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO” and the rest are more like “ok i expected that but still”
stringer’s hit me hard
ziggy still worst ever
― k3vin k., Monday, December 5, 2011 1:15 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark
seriously this is no joke one of the worst characters i’ve ever seen — when he goes off the rails and murders ppl for no reason it seemed so unearned
he really reminded me of bad sopranos characters that showed up for like one or two episodes... except for an entire season
even though i love the show and the actors and the writing and all the characters except marlo and i totally knew he was going to die, when they killed stringer i was like I’M NEVER WATCHING THIS STUPID SHOW AGAIN.
horseshoe otm
you guys are wrong about ziggy but i am too lazy to recreate my many ilx defenses of him.
in defense of ziggy:
- huge penis
lol
ok should we even rank wire characters on a wkiw basis or would that be too personal
xp lol DOES NOT COUNT
i mean i we’re being that superficial nicky’s girlfriend’s boobs gotta be in the convo
if*
hmmmmm...
i don’t think we re
#1 wkiw wire character is bodie, and this conversation is now over