The girl was setting him up—it was a trap by the Barksdale gang to get Marlo alone in a certain place. That’s when a bunch of the Barksdale replacement crew got shot—Poot (or someone) walked off dazed after hiding under the bodies.
After that fell through, Marlo & Co. tracked her down and blew her away.
the girl—that was devonne, I guess she was close to the barksdale organization, hooked up with marlo at a club and then was insistent on meeting him again the next day. oddly insistent saying she had to go out of town. marlo picked up on it being weird. they set up the meet at a take out & that’s when chris partlow took a shot into avon’s suv killing one of the barksdale crew & wounding avon in the shoulder.
seriously boggling at the ridiculousness of a “wire” vacation. good luck with that. (i guess the snoop actress has been making appearances at various places recently)
i stopped at the waterfront hotel bar that was used in homicide the other night. need to get one of their t-shirts that say: WTF Hotel
CP had The Wire’s location scout put together a tour of places used in the show a few months ago, while acknowledging the sketchiness of the whole ‘ghetto tourism’ thing:
http://www.citypaper.com/special/story.asp?id=11846
and I know there were groups of Homicide fans that would travel to Baltimore and take a tour of locations used in that show, too. I don’t necessarily think it’s an across the board bad thing, although there are definitely people who aren’t doing it with the purest intentions. but I mean, if I spend the weekend in New York and get a little geeked out at seeing some place that was featured in a movie, maybe even, gasp, a movie about crime, does that make me a bad person? I don’t get any thrill out of driving through the hood in Baltimore because, uh, I do it almost every day (and honestly a lot of times if I ever do go past a Wire location, I probably wouldn’t even recognize it, because so many vacant rowhouses and alleys and corner stores are interchangeable), but I do get excited if I’m at the movie theater and see Lester Freamon in the lobby.
right, I mean, on a level I don’t see anything wrong with coming to visit Baltimore because you love the show—people there love it too, after all. “ghetto tourism”? I mean, it’s interesting because it’s a great story, I can see how it’d be tasteless to go gawk at Hamsterdam if there really were a Hamsterdam full of people, but what is the problem with going to the park where Marlo hangs out to be like “OMG d00d, this is where Marlo hangs out!” I don’t see a problem with that.
the waterfront hotel comment shows i’m not above that nerdy shit. i meant specifically aimurchie’s (or her friend’s) take on it seems ridiculous, y’know, “Scoring some crack should be part of it,” lol poverty, etc.
It’s not me! I don’t even know her! She’s my boyfriend’s coworker!
i dunno, maybe the dudes on the corner would be more offended if you only came by to look and didn’t buy anything. just sayin. ;)
xpost michael there’s a track on clipse’s “got it 4 cheap vol 2” where malice says something abt avon and marlo warring, i cant remember which one it is
I was really curious about this so I just listened to a few of the tracks; on “I’m a Hustla” Ab-Liva says “sorta like Avon and Marlo when you set it off.”
Oh and on “Cross the Border” on vol. 1 he says “I’m Avon in the first season of the Wire,” dude really likes the show I guess!
...and the outro is over the end credits music, complete with the HBO logo crescendo at the end. I’m really sorry, I’ll stop now.
It will be great when he starts referencing specific episodes.
The Wire will be on BET starting in January!! Yippee!!!
I can’t wait to hear how they dub Bunk and McNutty at the murder scene.
“eat my socks, cutty!”
I read that for the Sopranos anyway HBO shot alternate scenes for syndication. I imagine they did the same with The Wire.
I feel so bad for Duquan. In the last episode when he’s back at his old school and talks to Prezbo is to me the saddest scene in all 4 seasons. It even made me cry. There’s just something about him...every time he’s in a scene I feel sad in some way.
when he gives prez the pens it’s definitely the tear-jerker moment we’ve all been waiting for.
anyway just finished s4 last night... definitely the best thing i saw on any screen in 2006. and possibly the best tv... ever. destroyed everything else on HBO this year, that’s for sure.
I keep thinking about the way Dookie sat down next to psycho slasher girl after her classroom freakout. Just being there with her, not saying anything.
haha, myspace is a treat.
“Yo! I’m currently the president & CEO of the leading pharmaceutical distributor servicing West Baltimore.”
So does Skillz just record one song a year from now on or what?
bet reruns start next week, sopranos too
So tempted to buy a Property of Bubbles shirt from Andre Royo.
The MySpace thing? I got lost, clicking on everyone’s profile.
They all have, like, 3,000 friends. If I had kept clicking I would have ended up -where? It got very confusing, very quickly. For me.
I sort of want the t-shirt—just because wearing it would be a secret code to other fans. Leading to grocery store discussions of “The Wire”, while trying to choose between the fresh fruit options. That would be fun. “Macoun apples or Granny Smith? No, Michael did not kill Bodie. Wow,pears are on sale!? I know, the Prop Joe part is complicated. I miss Stringer too.”
Which would lead to heated debates at the deli counter, and a general collapse of grocery store etiquette.
Dookie, Dookie, Dookie. His face is heartbreaking. The kid who plays the role has an amazing instinct for simple gestures and slow, quiet moments. It’s a very difficult role—and the fact that he has engaged all of us, so much, is a testament to his acting skills.
I’m never going to get over Wallace, so my heart gets stolen ONLY by certain, flawless performances.
What the fuck am I saying—my heart was stolen the second I watched S1.
I think the “Wire” T-shirt that I want is three guys sitting on the back of an orange couch. The more I think about it the more I think I must make this shirt.
haha one of the people in “Avon“‘s top 16 is someone I know
I’d buy one, Austin.
no B & B Enterprises t-shirt?
thinking about season 4, it’s interesting how they’re still following pretty worn narrative arcs, but they do it with enough detail and subtlety that they don’t usually register as cliches. like the way all of 4 of the boys had at least one of the established characters try to adopt them to one degree or another: prez with dukie, cutty with michael, carver with randy and bunny with namond. and each of the 4 strands ends up somewhere different. very diagrammatic, but it doesn’t feel like it because the characters are all well drawn and played and none of the outcomes seems implausible (although it’s sad that the most positive outcome — namond’s — seems the least likely).
whoever said herc fucked up more than anyone will realize is totally otm.
It took a lot of scrolling through that In/Out list to find that particular reference.
Yes Herc fucked up—driving the narrative forward and all that. He’s easy to hate.
But that’s sort of the point—rather than delivering an easy plotline with clearly delineated characters, “The Wire” makes you question the idea of “watching”.
I think.
I’m not a media scholar,but i think that the whole point of the show IS to create questions that are not answered simply. or simply answered.
That’s probably about 100 xposts—and everyone else articulates it better than I do.
More importantly—do we have to move this thread, or what?
I’m sticking to my corner/sandbox. Unless someone tells me not to.
Don’t forget Bubbles’ boy, tipsy.
so—i’m commissioning an artist friend of mine to do up (depending on cost) maybe 12 Victorian-style portraits of characters from the wire.
having a hell of a time narrowing down the list.
STRING
imo the 12 would have to be: mcnulty, bunk, omar, stringer, avon, frank sabotka, kima, lester, carcetti, d’angelo, snoop, daniels
maybe swap one of those out for marlo
that’s a good list. fuck marlo, though.
to be clear i was suggesting 12 portraits of Stringer.
i would sub out daniels for bodie maybe
you can’t do this w/o bodie
maybe sub out lester or carcetti for bubbs. SOPHIE’S CHOICE.
hahah I was just gonna suggest taking out carcetti for bubbles
oh i totally meant to put bubbles and bodie in there and spaced. obviously this is harder than i was pretending it was.
can you afford to commission 15 portraits y/n?
15 portraits of string, i mean.
fuck it, i’m taking out stringer and avon and putting in ziggy and steve earle
ziggy is not a terrible choice and also suggest ban
i am always defending ziggy in wire threads but i mean as a ‘one of 12 faces to represent the show’ choice he’s definitely not a factor
i guess marlo should really be in there but then you’d have his horrible dead eyes staring at you all the time.
gimme one w/ n’amon w/ his fro blown out
thinking a portrait of brother mouzone w/ lamar behind him holding copies of harper’s and the nation
i would totes commission a victorian portrait of brother mouzone w/ lamar behind him holding a copy of SPIN’s “rap is having its DIY moment” issue
ugh how does some dude not want bubbles in there. though given his taste in tv he;d probably request a 13th of childish gambino
bubbles face looked super fake a lot of the time on the show imo
ugh how does some dude not want bubbles in there. though given his taste in tv he;d probably request a 13th of childish gambino
― regional pug (dealwithit.gif), Sunday, December 4, 2011 11:43 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink
he said he forgot bubbles and bodie!
i don’t know what fake means. they did a lot of makeup stuff with andre royo’s face in the first four seasons to make him look like an addict. bubbs is v handsome in season 5 though.
the make up was kinda weak some of the time
oh i see
idk i’m being a dick for no reason, carry on
but bubbles wouldn’t be in my 12
imo the 12 would have to be: mcnulty, bunk, omar, stringer, avon, frank sabotka, kima, lester, carcetti, d’angelo, snoop, daniels
― i already regret not just being ‘some dude’ again (Mr. Stevenson #2), Sunday, December 4, 2011 10:02 PM (1 hour ago)
get rid of kima and daniels and add bubbs and bodie
there’s so many fucking good characters on this show
holy shit guys.
my list:
Omar, Bubbles, Marlow, Bodie, Avon & Barksdale (possibly sharing a larger portrait), Rawls, Daniels, Kima, McNulty & Bunk (if we’re putting Avon & Barks together might as well pair these two i guess) and Carcetti.
that’s 12 people and 10 paintings.
others i’m considering based on how much money and wall space i have left (in order): Lester, another shared portrait with Snoop & Chris, Bunny, Slim Charles, Prop Joe, D’Angelo, Herc, Pearlman, Carver and Valchek believe it or not.
oh man, slim
that should be Avon and Stringer there. brain fart.
stringer is such a more interesting character than avon that it’d be insulting for him to have to share a portrait w/ avon
i’m so rewatching this over winter break, fuck it
i am doing that as i type.
there are many hours to rewatch!
i loved the duality of Avon & String in season 3—i’m 100x more committed to keeping them together than Bunk & McNutty.
xpost I HAVE 60 TELEVISIONS GOING AT ONCE, EACH PLAYING A DIFFERENT EPISODE
well get on with it then motherfuckers
^^ saddest moment of 21st-century tv
twice!
well get on with it then motherfuckers
― dr. strongo, Monday, December 5, 2011 1:24 AM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink
^^ saddest moment of 21st-century tv
― dr. strongo, Monday, December 5, 2011 1:25 AM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink
seriously think about this scene like once a week
can we rank our top 5 saddest deaths?
1 wallace
2 string
3 prop joe
4 bodie
5 snoop
easily the saddest part of the whole show is when the one kid becomes a heroin addict
:( i hate this fucking show
xp that would be dook, noob
horseshoe indulge me plz
forget about sobotka
dude like....idk i feel like he is essential for some reason even tho i never really personally connected with him
i think i’ll like him more the second time thru tho
ziggy still worst ever
hard to rank the deaths because wallace and to some extent d’angelo getting killed were shocks to me and then i was like, oh this is how this show works all the characters i love are going to die, so i was more prepared. having said that, stringer’s death is the saddest to me even though it’s a different kind of sad than basically everything that happens to the season 4 kids. also for some reason i’ve seen season 2 a lot recently and frank and ziggy really get to me. honestly every five minutes something gutwrenching happens on this accursed show.
i love the actor who plays frank sobotka’s sad scared defiant face so much.
yeah i mean i feel like wallace is the most “NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO” and the rest are more like “ok i expected that but still”
stringer’s hit me hard
ziggy still worst ever
― k3vin k., Monday, December 5, 2011 1:15 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark
seriously this is no joke one of the worst characters i’ve ever seen — when he goes off the rails and murders ppl for no reason it seemed so unearned
he really reminded me of bad sopranos characters that showed up for like one or two episodes... except for an entire season
even though i love the show and the actors and the writing and all the characters except marlo and i totally knew he was going to die, when they killed stringer i was like I’M NEVER WATCHING THIS STUPID SHOW AGAIN.
horseshoe otm
you guys are wrong about ziggy but i am too lazy to recreate my many ilx defenses of him.
in defense of ziggy:
- huge penis
lol
ok should we even rank wire characters on a wkiw basis or would that be too personal
xp lol DOES NOT COUNT
i mean i we’re being that superficial nicky’s girlfriend’s boobs gotta be in the convo
if*
hmmmmm...
i don’t think we re
#1 wkiw wire character is bodie, and this conversation is now over