Howdy all:
Just to update everyone, the new server (henfap) has been bought and configured with ILX. It works pretty well, too — when I’m the only one using it, at least.
FedEx picked it up this morning, and it’ll be in Canada by Friday. The new hosts want a couple of days to unpack and dust it off, so we should have full ILX goodness restored next week.
The shipping costs have been met by a generous anon ILXor, although the final bill’s not in so we may have a shortfall. In case the bill’s huge, there’s a mod discussion going on just now about running ads for a short time, or perhaps a donation link or the like.
There is a non-intrusive google ad plan where we can get cash from the google search box results page, which I’ll test out here sometime tonight or tomorrow to see if it’s shit or not.
As for the new code: Keith can tell you more, but we’ll start a beta test once we’re sure the new server is as stable as it can reasonably be with ILX on it. Ahem.
Well done everyone!
It’s been a terrible ordeal.
NO ADS! OVER MY DEAD BODY!
no, sorry, joeking. if people (ie you) are gonna end up out of pocket because FedEx are chisellers, i’m all in favour of doing whatever it takes.
hurrah stet. hurrah keith. hurrah all our sinister overlords etc.
i’m all in favour of doing whatever it takes
(as a temporary measure, natch.)
Fear not, all will work out.
new server named hen fap?
damn straight.
ILX Escort Service
As long as the ads aren’t fucking PINK, I don’t think people would have much to complain about.
Er ... there’s now a (temporary) pink box on the real one too. Just so we can tell the difference between old code and new beta, like.
i’d be fine w/pink ads
What can I do if it dies?
What can I do if it dies?
What can I do if it’s poxed?
Just the thought fills my board with pink box
pink ads, eh?
FOR ALL YOUR GLASWEGIAN SHIRT NEEDS
(organic cider-proof protection available at extra cost)
little pink boxes
for you and me
As long as the ads aren’t fucking PINK, I don’t think people would have much to complain about.
I bet Carey Hart would complain.
server name = Aja/Dante finally gets its last laugh.
i know that’s some real underdog triumphing in the end shit right there
sry
Don’t apologise.
I kind of like it here. Will the sandbox be closed? :(
Sandbox = code testing ground. It’s not going anywhere.
That last P!nk is starting to work on me.
I had to admit it, but seconded.
YEAH! I mean, uh...thirded
Also, the ultimate triumph of Aja/Dante would be making ESTEBAN BUTTEZ an admin not giving the server a totally fucking retarded name from one of the more totally fucking retarded memes in history.
I have no problem with ads but I do have a problem with hen fap!
I want some ice cream.
How is that Pink strumpet doing these days anyway? That last pic is totally Slums of Beverly Hills.
She’s on her own eating an ice cream! Burn the witch!
(seriously, well done Stet and Keef plus associated others, and even though I am poor I will stump up some more if necessary).
Pink’s sloppy ice cream can’t hold a candle to this:
That’s a great album.
update plz
Server is in Canada and clearing customs, last we heard from FedEx.
will they find the ilx fundraising eightball?
Outlook not so good.
OTM, Outlook sucks.
the name “hen fap” was on a watchlist of some kind, so it was taken in for extra questioning.
ska punk would have attracted no attention. damn.
Daft question but don’t they sell servers in Canada?
Sandbox = code testing ground. It’s not going anywhere.
Unfortunately, I don’t think this sandbox is any use for testing new code, for reasons the ISP are best at explaining.
Gerry: we were getting a discount price with better service and better spec, and it actually worked out cheaper to get it here, especially since we should be able to reclaim VAT (pre-VAT price is cheaper than Canadian one).
The new code will have to be tested on the live server, aye.
We can just run two tomcats. Likely won’t be a big deal.
Hello Keith.
Presumably the words “Hen Fap” will not appear anywhere visible.
It’ll be in a special typeface only visible to hens.
what, chicken scratch?
Hahaha I love the idea of ILX going through customs. There’s no way we’re making it, people.
That’s okay—ilx aready has sleeper cells all over canada.
servers can make it thru cavity searches, right?
That’s about the standard of my photoshop attempts!
You couldn’t edit the HTML and screencap it? FOR SHAME
Nor could you find a serif font? FOR DOUBLE SHAME
the real shame is finding ‘we want hen fap’ that funny in the first place.
it is always going to be funny
sonned.
vvvvvv
crazy old world!
So, not so much this week then?
it made it through customs and may be installed this weekend!
Peter! Hi!
bump. all i want for xmas is ilx
all these moments will be lost in time, like tears in the rain
Sometime in ’06? Eh? Eh?
(Does it really matter?)
(I suppose I can say this so glibly because I didn’t donate money.)
Nu year Nu ILX
I’ve been wondering about this myself.
EARTH TO CANADA. EARTH TO CANADA. WHERE’S OUR FUCKING SERVER?
will the new server have some spare CPU for a little IRC server?
Stet is looking into all this. (Minus the IRC part.)
dere stet. please look into the IRC part too. yores, grimly.
I wouldn’t see a major problem with some sort of IRC, but why not just use a public server?
IRC is a bit of a bloody security-hole mess these days and it’s still too techy for less-computery ILXors. It’d end up as I Love Arcane Commands. Does anyone know of anything better?
Not that’s obvious. I don’t follow these things much, though. Others probably do. I could write one; it’d take a bit of time. Might be an interesting thing to do, though. Could link it into ILX too maybe and highlight users that were currently logged into chat.
Still, it’s hard to write something that has a kind of zero installation thing, for the non-techy. It could be a web thing, but it’d put a fair bit of strain on the server. Even an applet would have people downloading the latest JDK, though I think at least it’d probably do it for you.
I think most folks are OK downloading an app. Does Jabber support chats?
Coursre all this academic right now :(
I’m not any sort of Jabber expert, but I think it’s an open peer to peer protocol, rather than a client-server thing. Though I’m sure it could be bent into doing this sort of thing, it’s hardly worth it, as it doesn’t do much for us in this situation.
The protocol itself (in a basic sense) is extremely simple: everything anyone sends to the server gets sent back out to all connected clients.
The trick’s in writing something that doesn’t use a thread (or worse, a process) per connected client, which means that a fairly limited number of users could use the thing at once, since threads use something like 1MB each.
Actually, after discussions, IRC probably does rock. If someone can get the code for Aunt Sadie I’ll do it.
But only after the nu-code’s running, as two instances of ILX will be enough to be getting on with.
So what changed in between then and now?
Madchen reminded me of #sinister — and if it worked then it’ll work noo too. Plus opportunity for aunt sadie to cast aspersions on Grimly Fiendish’s sexuality.
#sinister is on Undernet... I guess what I mean is what were your security concerns?
Plus opportunity for aunt sadie to cast aspersions on Grimly Fiendish’s sexuality.
Who needs Aunt Sadie for that?
That’s a good point!
I seem to recall having read a whole of vulnerabilites in various servers. I’ll need to check it out properly.
On the server front: it should be ours in a day or two!
xposts: DUDES! It’s a ROBOT that will do it automatically for me. This is THE WHOLE POINT of computers and automation and stuff. If I could get one to follow him about heckling him as well, that’d be sweet. Keith — get codin and buildin and that, eh?
Set up a dropcash account for “automaticgrimlyhecklebot” and I’m so in there.
I know the very lad:
ihttp://farm1.static.flickr.com/140/339517525_1799f77c60.jpg
x-post
On New Year’s Day? Does that seem likely!?!
Anything is possible.
On the server front: it should be ours in a day or two!
:-D
I see what you did there! I said “likely” and you said “possible”!
Well Stet, we’d better be up at the crack of dawn to start getting stuff on it tomorrow...
er ... er, I think the special henfap-is-down holding page (with cute cats on) will be getting a bit of use tomorrow am.
(Also, unless they’ve wiped it or something, I’ve installed everything apart from Tomcat and Keefcode 2000).
Does Solaris support something like LPARs, or multiple OS instances nowadays?
behold, the grimbot 2000: programmed to make “wanker” gestures all day long.
aunt sadie sounds like a right old boot :(
Aye, its implementation is called zones and it is funky. xpost
What are you lot up to this evening? I’ve decided to do nothing.
Can each “zone” be assigned a different IP address?
What the bludy hell is Aunt Sadie when its at home?
Aunt Sadie—what is Matt DC?
Ha
Matt: Aunt Sadie is just a “bot” in an IRC room that was set up for the Sinister list many years ago.
Awwh, Aunt Sadie!
“just”
Yes on the IP thing.
I hear that Matt DC is installing your RAM and also a bloke.
Haha
If all those/us pathetic twee-poppers (Keef and Koogs excepted) could get along with global chat and then mirc and wahtever, fucking ILX can handle it.
This is bringing about some #sinister nostalgia that I didn’t even know I had in me :-(
Hey Scottish d00ds, I am seeing on the news that New Years Fun has been cancelled because you’re about to be rained away or something, blergh :(
Well that’s no fun. :-/
On the bright side, it means they can get cracking on with that code. God bless the weather on the shithole island right now.
We can organise fun outwith council-sponsored fun, can’t we? (also now no Sandi Thom, hurrah hurrah)
Last I knew it was still on the go in Edinburgh... Has it stopped! I hope so!
Word is that it’s stopped, announcement later apparently. I’m buggered if I’m going out in this, the wind’s making our double-glazing bend alarmingly. (Like grimly fiendish does aha ha heh)
heheheh ... HEY!
the wind here on the south side is FUCKING MENTAL. rising to 30mph southwesterly later. FUCK going out. we’re cooking instead.
and i’m installing last.fm, as part of my bid to get with this whole web 2.0 shit. (as bonaldi will tell you: the grimly way involves dismissing all new tech as “utter shit”, then becoming obsessed by it some two or three years late, just as everybody else moves on). hell, i even just updated my livejournal.
is there an ILX/ILM last.fm group, btw?
Oh I see, Glasgow has been cancelled. Is that because it might force Glaswegians out into the rain, where they might accidentally be washed?
Only joking, of course. It’s fucking windy here too.
We can organise fun outwith council-sponsored fun, can’t we?
You can?
Incidentally, ILX2 will be Web 3.
xposts
Well when us Londoners stumble back we expect a fully functioning auntsadie. Should I download mirc again? I think I still remember the servers :)
It’s just rainy and a bit blah here but nothing stopping us moving about for the moment... I hope it doesn’t all break at eff knows what in the morning, but seeing as we have the Union til stupid o clock I’m sure we can hole up there safely hooray.
Oh, it’s time for Aled Jones on the telly. Party starts now!
We’re braving it because we are ROCK (and we have a bus stop about two minutes from our house to get into the town centre and friends we can stay with if it gets really bad and we can’t get home) and also because we’re a bit short on booze in the house.
(xpost to Matt, well I CAN, just because actual Glasgow-dwellers are a bit rubbish especially southern jessies like Grimly, doesn’t mean that all of Glasgow is rubbish at organising fun. I wish I’d bust out the credit card and come to Big Lunding Town anyway)
Also, I hadn’t actually noticed the scariness of the weather until about now. It was averagely breezy when I went over to the shop for the papers earlier. Now it’s like freezy wet blowy hell. Still, a little rain never kept me out of a pub.
we’re cooking instead.
HEY invite me and madchen and p41l over then we’ve nowt to do and we can eat stuff no probs
Though the weather here is great and I’ve got party plans tonight and all, I admit that having good food and being snug against the winds with kind folk is a fine way to spend New Year’s — I’m kinda jealous!
incidentally, i am literally in a desert waste now, that bein’ the vegas airport. there’s this cute kid sitting next to me with his dad, kid’s angry cuz he can’t gamble. kid is, also, 4.
Corrupt him. (Wait, so you’re going to be back in LA tonight? Come down here and join us if you like!)
drop me an email, lemme know whass shakin?
SADIE!!!!!!
sadie, be struan
E-mail sent, contact me ASAP.
God, I’d forgot about that. Sadie used to do a me...
Can’t remember what it said, though... Anyone fancy a pint? Things like that, I think.
Just going for a cup of tea...
That could be right...
I’m in #sinister now
Oh, I thought I still had mirc on this here laptop. Apparently not.
auntsadie, be keith
[auntsadie] Haha KeefW! Cool, I’ll be Keith for a bit. Time for a Cup of Tea, Chaps.
* auntsadie is now known as auntkeith
[KeefW] Ha
[auntkeith] How’s it going, KeefW, ha are in my cupboard?
i’ve got teh mirc. auntsadie just called me a hoodrat.
[mollyd] maybe...
[auntkeith] Maybe Mollyd, maybe, but I really got bevvied last night, Mollyd.
[mollyd] yes!
[KeefW] Haha
Heh heh what server are you on?? :)
i heart auntsadie
Not entirely sure Starry, but any undernet one will do...
So:
eu.undernet.org
and
#sinister
I can tell that I’m going to install mirc and then see in 2007 in the company of virtual Keef and virtual Stet and getting insults flung at me by a robot. Marvellous.
Ha
I’m now quite tickled by the notion that, as if ILXers don’t spend enough time insulting one another, you now want to build a robot that does it as well.
/me forgets how irc works
/invite fishbot #ilx
Hahah OPS! And / commands!! /me cackles and slaps you all with trout. Yes, THIS is what ILX has been missing.
I keep getting “unable to resolve server” whenever I try to connect. I’ve just remembered why IRC sucks.
Firewall?
This might be what Stet was talking about.
Is that like a snowball? Don’t mind if I do!
(yes, I never thought of that)
the london undernet server seems to be working. everything else i’ve tried “cannot resolve.”
i r in sinister irc
I’ve just been out in the street to catch my bins which were blowing away. This wind is mental.
Ailsa, are you still fucking about?
Yeah, but failing dismally.
(Wind also mental this far down the M8, G)
I scrolled down servers to undernet then clicked on “random eu server” i think. Then /join #sinister
I’m trying random eu server and failing dismally, with or without the firewall bit on Norton turned off.
fucking hell. i went back and you’d all gone. except for what might have been a robot keith.
i never really got IRC in 1996, and i don’t think i’m getting it now :(
You went away for ages, you twat!
Some other time.
Though you can be my Web 2 Last FM friend, if you like. I’m here:
I am in IRC right now! Auntsadie knows far too much about me...
cheers, robot keith. i found the ILX group too, incidentally. hurrah!
hi
hello!
l**y a***r!
l**y a***r is, like, a rampant crack whore
Hey, that came out all wrong because of my pointy brackets, I suspect. The first person was sprog, then me, then sprog again, then auntsadie. Grr.
seen rjg?
rjg was last seen on IRC 2 years, 212 days, 21 hours, 51 minutes and 58 seconds ago, saying: see ya there
auntsadie is just like the enterprise computer but better.
I hear auntsadie is like the enterprise computer but better and also a dear.
HEY SOMEBODY SAY “LATIGO” AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS! I wonder if she’s been de-programmed.
Come and join us and try for yourself! It’s like 1999 all over again in there!
[madchen] auntsadie, what is latigo?
[auntsadie] madchen: i don’t know
I am lurking there, I think I might catch the etwee.
whoa #sinister
haha i downloaded mirc just now and was baffled for the first few minutes but it’s aaaallll coming back to me now
except can’t connect to undernet for some reason (i think the technical reason is: i’m hungover)
omg it worked
Are you oldfolky, Ed?
stop lurking! feel the twee!
Cannot remember what I’m doing. Yikes!
yes (although also discussing Ulster loyalism and football hooliganism with Gareth and Watching Torchwood)
haha, i know!
xpost
i just started reading the help file and am going ‘oh yeah! right!’ every two seconds
[madchen] gayometer keith
[auntsadie] keith has a gay-o-meter reading of -31, incredibly straight
Haha
in my head, all ILX chats look like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUPpcA8Eapw
waht
MURKED
Just how many cats are there?
(I miss poxy fule already.)
okay i was in #sinister for like 2 minutes, but there were actual PEOPLE there! WEIRD
#sinister is great again!
Wow, nostalgia.
Laurel, it was “lanugo”, not “latigo”.
Wowsers!
http://www.koogy.clara.co.uk/ile.html
Aaaaaahhhhh. Zen.
haha awesomely enough the cat that popped up when I first clicked on that was “WAIT, I’ll fix it”
Oh, LANUGO! Thank you. A flake-out on my part. Does it still work?
i thought that NU-ILX was going to be all jsp based?