thats weird to want bledsoe more, seems like gordon is p clearly the superior player, and there are like one million good young point guards and no good young shooting guards
if i were them id be tempted to try to sign gordon to a long contract right now as his value is likely to increase this season
I’m sure it’s money and team building. What is the chance Gordon signs an extension? 20%? Bledsoe they’d get for a longer period, better chance to build.
eh players like guaranteed money
gordon is also injury prone
Now WOJ is reporting Gordon is not in it. Guess we’ll find out sometime.
has this been discussed, clips have paul for at least two years
A source close to Paul said he has decided to pick up the option on his contract as part of the potential deal, meaning he would be in Los Angeles through at least the 2012–2013 season.
if the clips keep gordon they will be a p amazing team
if the clips manage to keep gordon it will be a complete hose-job
gordon is also injury prone
― am0n shumpert (dayo), Monday, December 12, 2011 9:48 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Permalink
wow did not realize this, only averaged like 60 games over his 1st three years, that does change the math somewhat
kevin otm m/l imho
what is m/l
ice crm if you played fantasy bball you would know these things
@sheridanhoopsChris Sheridan
If E.Gordon put in the deal, it’s a different story. But Odom, Scola, Martin, Dragic & Knicks’ No. 1 > Kaman, Bledsoe, Aminu & Minn. No. 1
^^^^
o more/less
I haven’t been following this year’s draft—why is it so major? who’s in it?
everyone on kentucky and unc
Couldn’t disagree with Sheridan more, especially for a team desperate for a buyer. It’ll be a hose job and yet better than the initial 3-way trade with Lakers and Rockets because that initial offer was shit two years down the road. This way they have Bledsoe, Aminu and the Minny pick to build around.
sheridan has never understood anything at all abt basketball ever
ice crm if you played fantasy bball you would know these things
― am0n shumpert (dayo), Monday, December 12, 2011 9:53 AM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink
dont want to open a lol big can of worms but ill just say this, i have played it and it is the devil
our league needs one more team, you can just join the draft and then let yer team collect dust, nobody’ll care
i am amazing at fantasy draft i warn u
but basically i h8 fantasy sports and how it is destroying the world
our league needs one more team, you can just join the draft and then let yer team collect dust, nobody’ll care
― am0n shumpert (dayo), Monday, December 12, 2011 10:05 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink
last time i played i did exactly that and still came in second /braggin abt lame things
From @JaredZwerling report: LeBron James weighing 265 lbs, 5.2% body fat, Dwyane Wade at 231 lbs, 3.5% body fat. Yikes.
i knew bron was a large person but wade at 231 seems HUGE, had no idea
dude is pure muscle and muscle weighs more than fat
but yeah 6’4 & 231 seems O_O
hes v solid just like huge arms n legs
yeah he’s got a tremendous core
just an incredible thick chiseled rock hard core
lol you guys prokhorov is running for president of russia
things are going crazy in russia aren’t they
this year is quickly moving from the strangest nba season ever column to the strangest thing ever
prokhorov is probably thinking “fuck bully king I’m gonna be PRESIDENT OF RUSSIA”
Chris_Broussard Chris Broussard
LAC don’t want a LOdom situation on hands. Wants to extend Gordon if CP deal don’t happen. NBA running deal for NO & wants Bledsoe added
15 minutes ago
glad to hear the league is just straight up negotiating this deal instead of risking a repeat of that shitstorm
should be ‘eman shumpert’
i’ll vote for prokh
I thought you retired ‘eman’
I mean, I def thought about it
the world is ready for a jet ski president
lol
off to my cabinet meeting brb
so the wolves now have barea, ridnour, and rubio
*colludes w/BRIC nations*
so the wolves now have barea, ridnour, and rubio
― am0n shumpert (dayo), Monday, December 12, 2011 10:39 AM (20 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink
lol this fn team
just need a few more point guards and we can win
oh what a waste of barea; lil dude was born to play in the playoffs
some on splain to me what happened w/the celtics and david west
i’ve followed it closely and can’t really figure it out but seems like it was a complex sign-and-trade that relied on one of the old versions of the cp3 deal and they just couldn’t get it figured out. pacers could just sign him outright with their cap space.
ah ok, west wouldve been weird on the c’s anyway
they would have had two jump shooting big men
and four power forwards
yeah i was for it in the abstract because west can score with the best of em but it would have been weird team construction
tho allen/pierce/west/garnett playing together would be p sweet from a defense stretching perpective
the clips-hornets deal is definitely going to make the hornets worse in the immediate, but if the goal is to get younger players then it’s the better deal. bledsoe and aminu won’t be stars, so it will all hinge on who they pick w/ the t wolves pick and their own pick, both of which should presumably be in the top 5. also if i was getting bledsoe & aminu i would ask for another first round pick instead of kaman. or if i had to take kaman for salary purposes i would demand another first round pick. not sure what the point of that one is. they already have okafor and aren’t going to win this year.
feel like the hornets would be in the position to demand gordon if, you know, they hadn’t been neutered by david stern and lost all of their leverage
omg david stern protected them from taking a horrible deal!
they wouldve had no leverage because paul wouldve been traded already
well they could’ve done it a much more discreet fashion
like for instance if demps had heard behind closed doors that the three way lakers/rockets deal wouldn’t work, he could’ve at least kept the negotiations of that deal going and played the clippers off of that, which might’ve allowed him to pry gordon
well they could’ve done it a much more discreet fashion
― v-shasty, Monday, December 12, 2011 11:34 AM (23 seconds ago) Bookmark Permalink
true but i dont see how the hornets total leverage cashes wouldve been any greater
its all narrative, but the reality is assets
like for instance if demps had heard behind closed doors that the three way lakers/rockets deal wouldn’t work, he could’ve at least kept the negotiations of that deal going and played the clippers off of that, which might’ve allowed him to pry gordon
― v-shasty, Monday, December 12, 2011 11:35 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Permalink
this just seems HIGHLY speculative
it certainly is
i mean the lakers n rockets did reopen negotiations
but in general i don’t think that the way stern went about killing the trade was beneficial in any way to what the hornets are trying to do
i mean the lakers n rockets did reopen negotiations
― Cooper Chucklebutt, Monday, December 12, 2011 10:38 AM (18 seconds ago) Bookmark
they did, but i think at that point the whole thing was kinda killed anyway — like for instance odom was already boycotting camp so they had an incentive to just turn around and flip him to dallas for practically nothing
but in general i don’t think that the way stern went about killing the trade was beneficial in any way to what the hornets are trying to do
― v-shasty, Monday, December 12, 2011 11:38 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Permalink
it certainly wasnt beneficial to his personal image nor standing on twitter, my guess is where he made his mistake is that he was pretending that he didnt own a team, theres no franchise in the league where a gm is free to trade a superstar w/o checking in w/the owner, acting as tho this was the case until the moment where the gm made a bonehead play was p clueless—not convinced it hurt the hornets chances at getting a good deal tho, all the teams still want paul, the lakers/rockets proved unwilling to raise their offer, but that prob wouldve happened anyway, i dont see this brouhaha causing them to walk away over hurt feelings, the hornets already got a better offer from the clips and youve got to think other teams are waiting in the wings
hollinger on bledsoe—wouldve been interested to hear if he thinks hell ever figure it out hard to project i guess
+ Quick, athletic guard with good size and tremendous defensive potential.
+ Nominally a point guard, but no idea how to play offense. Serial overdribbler.
+ Poor outside shooter and lacks feel, but has great burst and can make floaters.
“Inefficient” doesn’t really do Bledsoe’s rookie season justice. Having him direct a possession, particularly in the halfcourt, was the basketball equivalent of punting on third down. For starters, there was the poor shooting — he hit 42.5 percent from the floor and 27.6 percent on 3s, and while he could get to the basket he didn’t draw many fouls. All told, his 49.9 TS% was in the bottom quarter of point guards.
That was bad, but what really put Bledsoe over the top was his woeful distribution. There were 68 point guards that played at least 500 minutes last season. Sixty-six of them had a pure point rating above zero. Not Bledsoe — he was at minus-0.07 thanks to a disastrous 18.9 turnover rate, one eclipsed among point guards only by the miserable Chris Duhon.
Offsetting these negatives is Bledsoe’s ridiculous athleticism and the fact that he was only 21 years old. Bledsoe was eighth among point guards in blocks per minute, seventh in steals and sixth in rebound rate. Even as a rookie he was a quality defender, and he could easily make an all-defense team in a couple years.
Offensively, meanwhile, Bledsoe shot 60.3 percent at the rim and can make floaters; also, high-mistake rookies are often the ones who make the most improvement in subsequent years. He has no clue on offense right now and he’s still a solid backup. If and when he figures things out, he’ll be a terror.
the truly strage thing abt all of this is the lakers trading odom to mavs for some stuff they had lying around in their junk drawer w/out having an sort of grander scheme ready to go
yeah... i mean i guess it was basically a “well fuck we have no choice but to trade him now” kinda thing
really hurts the lakers imo, but it’s a good deal for the mavs. not sure him and dirk could play much at the same time cuz they would get eaten alive on D, but that’s a pretty damn good sub for when dirk goes out
can somebody post the hollinger breakdown for the sixers this year
this’ll be the year that I finally follow my team (now that I’m not overseas)
yeah... i mean i guess it was basically a “well fuck we have no choice but to trade him now” kinda thing
― v-shasty, Monday, December 12, 2011 11:58 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink
but youd think if they were gonna move him for a top 20 protected pick where the other team gets to choose which year they use it they couldve traded him to a team not standing directly between them and a chip
yeah who knows
i read other gms said the lakers didnt even call them at all
that’s bizarre
not sure how much one can trust anonymously quoted gms but the whole thing is really weird!
do the lakers even have a sixth man right now
lakers should prob just drive into the ocean at this point
btw r u getting dayos sixer hollinger profiles together or should i
my insider actually expired a few days ago, i haven’t renewed it yet, so that would be you
on it boss
ty
Lavoy Allen
+ Inconsistent power forward with good short-range touch. Solid rebounder.
+ Criticized for low-revving motor. Very good passer, but passive.
+ Defensive mobility and effort a question mark.
A late second-round gamble, Allen was a four-year senior with an underwhelming resume, with his erratic effort level providing both his biggest question mark and his biggest opportunity. If Allen just starts competing on every play and stops coasting, he could have a career, and perhaps the threat of professional extinction will motivate him to do so. If he keeps playing like he did at Temple, however, he’s a no-hoper.
Craig Brackins
+ Skilled big man who can shoot with range, run floor and jump.
+ Indifferent rebounder and defender; needs to add strength and upgrade motor.
+ College free throw and 3-point percentages disappointing, given shooting stroke.
Brackins’ skills overlap those of Songaila, and it seems only one of them will emerge. Obviously, the answer is Brackins after this season — Songaila’s contract expires — but given his strength deficit and reliance on skill, he might need some time to get his footing at the NBA level.
Elton Brand
+ Slow-footed big man with devastating midrange jump shot off pick-and-pop.
+ Solid rebounder, thanks to long arms and wide build. Decent handle for size.
+ Strong, smart team defender but overmatched against good post scorers.
Now that he can’t run anymore, Brand has become Mr. Midrange, and did it effectively enough last season that he was still a very useful player. Last season he led the NBA in field goals from 10-to-15 feet with 159 and attempts with 325. To put this in context, he had about 25 percent more tries from that area than the next closest player, Dirk Nowitzki. He made them, too, making 48.6 percent, so nobody’s complaining. However, one suspects he’ll have trouble maintaining that lofty level, which is why he should expect his field-goal percentage and PER to regress about this coming season.
Meanwhile, Brand took fewer than three shots a game at the rim. He’s no longer a dominating interior player, with middling rebound and free throw rates, and in particular he struggles to score against long defenders. However, the switch to jumpers reversed the plague of turnovers that descended upon Brand in his first campaign in Philly — he had the eighth-best turnover rate among power forwards last season — and as a result he had his best PER since injuring his Achilles. He’s a smart player and these stats show it, as he made the necessary adjustments to compensate for his changing abilities.
Defensively, Brand still has long arms, a good base and his smarts, so the drop-off has been less noticeable. The Sixers don’t let him anywhere near good post scorers, but as a helping big man he’s effective and his physicality is beneficial.
Spencer Hawes
+ Skilled 7-footer who shies away from contact. Likes to shoot long jumpers.
+ Greatly improved rebounding. Has decent post game but rarely displays it.
+ Has size to be good defender but needs more toughness and strength.
What do you suppose it would take for this guy to draw a foul? Hawes only averaged 0.15 free throw attempts per field goal attempt, which was the fifth-worst among centers, but even that sells short the rarity of his achievement. For a young 7-footer to be this contact-averse is truly remarkable.
Consider this: Only three times since the NBA/ABA merger has a 7-footer aged 24 or younger played at least 20 minutes a game while averaging fewer than 0.17 free throw attempts per field goal attempt.
The three times?
— Spencer Hawes, 2008–09
— Spencer Hawes, 2009–10
— Spencer Hawes, 2010–11
Hawes at least improved his rebound rate last season, but he’s essentially turning into the new Rasho Nesterovic — an otherwise moderately effective midrange shooting big man whose offensive impact suffers from a comically low free throw rate. As a result, Hawes’ true shooting percentage was just 48.1 last season and annually ranks among the worst at the center position.
Hawes might make up for that by making 3-pointers instead of the long 2-pointers he tries now — he made nine 3s last season and shot 39.6 on long 2s. But even better strategy would be to try taking advantage of the fact that he’s 7 feet tall by attacking in the paint once in a while.
Defensively, Hawes’ lack of mettle has a similar impact. While he improved on the boards last season, Synergy rated him among the worst defensive centers in the league, and the Sixers gave up 2.48 points less per 100 possessions with him off the court.
Jrue Holiday
+ Big, quick point guard with defensive talent, but struggles to fight past screens.
+ Developing offensive force with point guard skills and ability to get to basket.
+ Needs to improve 3-point shot and draw more fouls. Poor secondary percentage.
Holiday was only 20 years old last season, so the fact that he was a solid NBA point guard already is a very impressive sign for his future development. To develop into a star, as opposed to a merely decent player, Holiday will need to further ramp up his offensive efficiency. He’s already fairly good at creating shots and will likely continue to make incremental progress in that area, but the standout stat from last season is that he was 54th among point guards in secondary percentage.
Holiday shot respectably from both the 3-point line (36.5 percent) and the free throw line (82.3 percent), but took both shots in such scarce quantities that he still had an unimpressive true shooting percentage. He only drew 0.21 free throw attempts per field goal attempt, which is poor considering how often he got in the paint, and less than a quarter of shots were 3s. Holiday shot 42.0 percent on long 2s and 61.0 percent at the basket, so the nuts and bolts are there; he just needs to learn how to draw fouls and convert some of those 20-foot 2s into 23-foot 3s.
The lone negative, perhaps, is that athletically Holiday is more “very good” rather than “overwhelming,” with solid but not spectacular numbers in areas like usage rate, blocks, rebounds and steals. So Derrick Rose he ain’t. The chances are very strong that Holiday will become a long-term star. He’ll probably play in at least one All-Star Game, so the Sixers aren’t complaining, but his development curve from here may be a bit flatter than for some other players.
Defensively, Holiday is potentially outstanding due to his combination of size and mobility, but was just average last season because of the magnets that compel him to crash into any and all screens. As a result, good pick-and-roll guards tore him apart. Holiday’s net defensive plus-minus (minus-3.26 points per 100 possessions) and Synergy ratings were well below average, and opposing point guards cruised to an 18.6 PER against him according to 82games.com.
Andre Iguodala
+ Elite athlete who ranks among best perimeter defenders in basketball.
+ Dominant in transition due to handle, hops, speed and passing skills.
+ Average half-court player with erratic jumper. Able and willing passer.
Iguodala made a big turn toward being a “point forward” last season; his scoring rate dropped by 2.3 points per 40 minutes, but his assist rate shot upward. He led all small forwards in assist ratio and pure point rating; in fact, Iguodala’s rating in both categories was the best in the NBA of any non-point guard (see chart; if you’re looking for LeBron James, he was eighth).
Iguodala remains a dazzling finisher and a mediocre jump shooter; if anything, he reinforced those trends last season. He shot an amazing 72.6 percent at the rim, although he didn’t get there as often as he used to — the fact that Grant Hill had more shots at the rim in fewer minutes strongly underscores that point.
Instead, nearly half of Iguodala’s 2-pointers were from 16-to-23 feet, and a quarter of his shots were 3-pointers. While he made a decent 37 percent of the long 2s and a passable 33.7 percent of his 3s, these are not strengths; the less he attacks the rim, the less effective a scorer he is. As a result, his true shooting percentage was just average despite his finishing skill and ability to get to the line. On the latter point, his career-low 69.3 percent free throw mark was a further drag, and attests to his lack of development as a shooter since entering the league — he’s no more accurate now than when he was 20.
Defensively, however, Iguodala is a master — the league’s best perimeter defender this side of Tony Allen. Iguodala also combined a sky-high steals rate with one of the lowest foul rates in basketball — just 1.77 per 40 minutes. Only six players were lower, and none of them were checking James and Kobe Bryant every night.
The data backs up the subjective case for Iguodala’s defensive excellence. Philadelphia was 4.02 points per 100 possessions better defensively with Iguodala on the court, while Synergy rated him the third-best defender at his position, behind only James and Ron Artest. The most impressive stat, however, is that Iguodala held opposing small forwards to a miniscule 10.2 PER last season.
Jodie Meeks
+ Knockdown outside shooter off catch or dribble. Scorer’s instincts.
+ A bit undersized for 2 and an average athlete. Defensively suspect.
+ For a jump shooter, great at drawing fouls. Rarely fouls on D.
Meeks benefited from the paucity of shooters around him, becoming a starter by necessity, thanks to his sweet long-range stroke. He made 39.7 percent of his 3-pointers to help keep defenses honest, and played the sniper role to perfection — 3/5 of his shots were 3s and he had the eighth-lowest turnover rate among shooting guards.
The more amazing feat, however, was that Meeks still had one of the highest free throw rates at his position. Meeks took 170 free throws, even though he only attempted 221 shots inside the 3-point line — an amazing ratio, and one he exploited by making 89.4 percent at the line. As a result, he led all shooting guards in secondary percentage and was sixth in the league overall.
Meeks has little value in other respects. He doesn’t create well for himself or others and he’s not a good rebounder and, based on observation, he’s suspect defensively, although statistically he wasn’t that bad last year. He doesn’t foul — only three shooting guards were whistled less often — but at 6-foot-4 he’s undersized and he’s not a great athlete.
Andres Nocioni
+ Aggressive, jump-shooting combo forward. Decent first step but bad handle.
+ Tough as nails but no longer has foot speed to guard 3s. Physical defender.
+ Poor rebounder for a 4 and will force shots. Plays below rim. Declining speed.
Nocioni was a bit less trigger happy last season and regained some of his lost rebounding mojo, but unfortunately he couldn’t improve his accuracy much and he struggled to fulfill other requirements of a stretch 4. Most obviously, his turnover rate was way too high for a pick-and-pop guy; you can’t rank 49th among power forwards in turnover rate if nearly half your shots are 3-pointers off the catch.
Nocioni’s declining athleticism also shows on the stat sheet. He ranked second to last among power forwards in offensive rebound rate, fifth from the bottom in steals per minute and ninth from the bottom in overall rebound rate and PER. And because of his diminishing defensive value and tweener status, it’s become increasingly hard to find decent matchups that allow him to stay on the floor.
Marreese Speights
+ Excellent midrange jump shooter with fairly quick release. Shoots every time.
+ Big build, may need to lose weight. Decent rebounder. Unmotivated defender.
+ Short for a 5 and slow for a 4. Unbelievably bad at taking charges.
Well, he can certainly shoot it. Speights shot 41.5 percent from 10-to-23 feet last season, and that’s no fluke; he’s put up similar numbers in previous seasons. He also finishes well around the basket, showing a nice touch when he catches in close. Averaging 18.7 points per 40 minutes, scoring is not his problem.
Instead, it’s the other stuff. Synergy graded Speights as a strong defender last year, but subjectively he’s still terrible — he had one of the highest foul rates among big men; he had low rates of blocks and steals; and he’s not terribly motivated to offer help. Using more advanced techniques, like the regularized adjusted plus-minus shown here, he was still a below-average defender — he just played a lot of minutes with the Sixers’ best defensive unit overall. Finally, he is perhaps the worst player I have ever seen at selling a charging call. He’s actually trying in this area, so you feel for him a bit; he just has no thespian skills whatsoever.
Offensively, he’s not in the clear, either. Speights can score, but that’s pretty much all he does — he shoots nearly every time and is getting a rep as a selfish player. Those weaknesses left Speights on the fringe of the Sixers’ rotation, even though he’s clearly talented. Getting in better shape would help, too, but the worry is that the lockout will send his conditioning in the opposite direction.
Evan Turner
+ Big wing who handles ball well for size. Deceptively good passer.
+ Rebounds well. Average athlete but tough and good size. Willing defender.
+ Poor outside shooter. Can create shots but lacks explosiveness at rim.
My research on disaster rookie seasons suggests that Turner still has a chance to be a very good player, but we can rule out superstardom. Looking at rookie wings aged 21 to 23 who played at least 1,200 minutes and had a PER between eight and 12, we conjured up six players that eventually played in an All-Star Game: Allan Houston, Jeff Malone, Richard Hamilton, Dan Majerle, Kiki Vandeweghe and Glen Rice. I also came up with a great many players who didn’t become All-Stars, mind you — my list is littered with assorted Dennis Hopsons and Lamond Murrays. Turner may very well join them, but subjectively he appears to have more in common with the Malones and Houstons. It wasn’t a good rookie year by any stretch, but there’s still hope.
Plus, Turner had some positives in his record. He was 14th among shooting guards in pure point rating and fifth in rebound rate. That pure point rating may still sell him short, as his assist quality (see Baron Davis comment) was well above the league average — coinciding with my subjective assessment that he was making sweet pick-and-roll bounce passes to set up easy buckets for the bigs.
The biggest problem for Turner is that awful true shooting percentage, which basically comes down to two things. The first, well-known one is that he doesn’t shoot well — Turner only made 14 3-pointers all year and shot 36.9 percent on 2-pointers beyond 10 feet. The more troubling one is that he didn’t draw fouls. Most of Turner’s shots were midrange jumpers, with barely a third coming inside 10 feet. As a result, he wasn’t able to pad his numbers with easy points at the line. With no 3s and ordinary free throw numbers, he had the fifth-worst secondary percentage among shooting guards.
Defensively, Turner blew some rotations — all rookies do — but he has good size and his effort was solid, and statistically there were few red flags. His main obstacle to a bigger role is simply converting shots into points.
Nikola Vucevic
+ Seven-footer with some skill around the basket. Soft touch. Can score in the post.
+ Decent rebounder but a bit on the soft side. Developing pick-and-pop game.
+ Good length and build, but suspect foot speed. Mostly plays below the rim.
Vucevic isn’t terribly physical or athletic, but he’s a true 5 at 7-foot-0, 260 pounds and he has some offensive skills. He has a nice short-range, pick-and-pop game that he will probably be able to extend further with age, and at just 20 years old, he is still adding to his skill set. He projects to be in the mold of Rasho Nesterovic or Nenad Krstic, which makes him a very serviceable mid-first-rounder in what most considered a weak draft. The biggest problem for him right now is that his talents appear to largely overlap those of Spencer Hawes, making it tougher for him to carve out a unique niche in the rotation.
Lou Williams
+ Small, shoot-first guard with outstanding quickness and awesome shot fake.
+ Draws fouls and creates shots but has a limited in-between game and mediocre J.
+ Too small to guard 2s, but can defend 1s when paired with a bigger point guard.
Williams’ shot fake is so tempting that defenders bite on it virtually every time, even though he’s not much of a threat as a jump shooter. He’s a career 33.0 percent 3-point shooter who made 34.2 percent last season; he also made 37.0 percent of his long 2s and 21.1 percent from 10–15 feet. Let him shoot it, guys.
But they can’t help themselves; Williams pulls his arms way up on the fake and it looks too much like the real thing for defenders to resist. Because of it, Williams is an effective scorer despite his shaky stroke. He was sixth among point guards in free throw attempts per field goal attempt and eighth in secondary percentage, helping him overcome a 40.6 percent shooting mark. And he did this often, too — Williams’ per-game stats may not jump out at you because he only played 23 minutes a game, but he averaged a sizzling 23.5 points per 40 minutes.
Because Williams drew so many fouls on the perimeter, he also had a remarkably low turnover rate for a player with so many free throw attempts. While it was low for other reasons (like how rarely he passed, for instance), the results was that Williams led the Sixers in PER and ranked ninth overall among point guards.
Defensively, Williams is harder to spot minutes. While he’s very quick, he’s undersized, and because he’s so focused on scoring one would prefer somebody else be the primary ball handler when he’s on the court. Holiday’s presence should help him since Holiday is big enough to guard many 2s, and certainly they need to find more opportunities to get Williams out there — he led the team in PER last year but played less than half the game.
Thaddeus Young
+ Layup machine with speed in transition and nose for rim. Must improve jumper.
+ Left dominant but improved right hand. Likes to attack from foul line.
+ A tweener. Lacks size to play 4 full-time but a matchup nightmare off bench.
Quick, ask the nearest basketball fan who led the NBA in baskets at the rim per 40 minutes last season, and see how many guesses they need before “Thaddeus Young” rolls off their tongue. Bizarrely effective for a player without a real position, Young is not quite a 3 and not quite a 4; what he is, instead, is a layup machine.
Young led the NBA with a rim-area basket every 6.9 minutes (see chart), although that partly came about because of how shockingly rare it is for him to a draw a foul on his forays about the rim. Nonetheless, his high-percentage conversions on fast-break layups, short-range bank shots and the occasional free throw area jumper made him among the league’s very best bench players last season; his spectacular adjusted plus-minus numbers back that assertion.
Although Young is only 22 and has put up very good numbers to this point, one wonders where he can take his game from here. His inability to defend the 4 makes him a tough sell as a starting power forward, yet his numbers have been dramatically worse at the 3 his entire career because of his shaky shooting and weak handle. While his dribble has improved a bit — particularly his formerly ornamental right hand — he’s still something of a fish out of water on the perimeter.
Nonetheless, he’s a valuable player. Few players play better as a sub than as a starter, but it appears Young may be one of them, and as long as he doesn’t have to guard beastly post players he’s an extremely effective two-way force.
Additionally, he raises the question of whether the Sixers should play small more often. Young’s plus-minus differentials have been strongly positive in each of his four seasons, particularly when he plays the 4. While the Sixers are understandably reluctant to use he and Brand as a woefully undersized frontcourt tandem, they’ve been incredibly effective together in that alignment.
this dude is for real like one of my fav players in the nba — RIP 2010 nuggs
nene only has one ball right
ty jh0 ^_^
I didn’t know that till Hedo started talking about it.
yw xp
damn, had no idea that elton brand had turned into david west
3 shots around the rim per game o_o
was such a beast rip
btw id just like to give a big huge shout out to twitter for being infinitely better than cruising every shit 2nd tier basketball site for breaking trade news/rumors
hollinger think okc will get billups via having cap space a need and being an acceptable destination
heat r not on his list fyi esq
actually i added the acceptable destination part fyi
MagicInsider Brian Schmitz
Possibly stunning development or just PR:Dwight Howard softens stance. “This is the place I want to be but some things have to change”
2 minutes ago
*SCOOBY BARK*
haha
cant really imagine billups and westbrook on the same team
they could totes play them together even!