Puhleeze, winklepickers have never been out! The problem is finding the right angle from toe box to point. Continental makers are usually quite narrow throughout the shoe, which is unhelpful for some of us.

And I don’t know about knees? The worst thing for my knees has been my Frye motorcycle boots, because they’re so heavy that when I throw my foot forward sometimes the knee hyperextends. Have found heels to be painful in myriad ways, but never on my knees. My idea of the perfect shoe is probably a partial wedge with a notch mid-way, so there’s flex at the hinge; otherwise 2–2.5“ winklepickers, already broken in.

Third, I don’t care what Mary and Carey say, M’s hair had tons of crown volume and was perfectly swept back, and C was wearing a mini-ish-skirt of her own manufacture that was really kind of complicated! Love to both.

no i mean flats, bad for knees?

The old lady librarians I work with always snicker when then see some 20 y/o student teetering by on her heels. “She won’t be wearing them when she’s our age,” they scoff. They even had a diatribe against pointy-toed shoes, but I haven’t heard it since I’ve been wearing my cute FLAT pointy toe black shoes.

Also, these women are terribly grumpy.

that sounds bogus to me. (xpost)

Also, I have bad knees from my failed career as a high school volleyball star. I think the lack of arch support in heels exacerbates any pain I might develop in my gimpy knees. The two could be related (flat feet / bad knees). I have no idea.

I am such an old woman.

caitlin, move to dc, we could share a wardrobe it seems

as far as suits go.. buy what fits now—you can always have it taken in by a tailor, right? esp. trousers. the thing that can’t be altered is fit in the shoulders of a jacket, and it’s pretty hard to make a too-small garment larger. i usually wear a 6 but some lines an 8, not wanting to admit this means i have a $130 pair of club monaco trousers never worn b/c a touch too small, i keep thinking i’ll lose 5 pounds and they’ll fit. (new year’s resolution! right!)

I figure either flats or heels can be painful if they’re not well made and don’t fit properly. I would’ve never believed it w/o trying but honestly my charles david 3.5“ platform boots are the most comfortable shoes I own that aren’t sneakers, because the insole is actually padded + comfy. what about the nike air shoes for cole haan? a lot of them are ugly but there are a few that are cute.

My 91-year-old grandmother wore heels on Christmas day.

Daria, you don’t need to lose any weight! Do I need to hold an intervention for my numerous slender and statueesque DC girlfriends?

Thanks Laurel! I loved your outfit. Carey did my hair and gave me a mini cat’s eyes lesson. My shoes were killing the balls of my feet though. Do I need to build up calluses there?

Back to mascara: I was under the impressions that one coat was one swoosh of the wand, all lashes at once. But is one coat that painting of each singular lash bit by bit?

A new clumping culprit: my lashes might be long but not full. Mascara-ing them draws certain lashes together to form varigated spindles.

One coat for me is generally whatever I decide it is, I am not really clear on that terminology because one “whoosh” with the brush doesn’t really get your lashes, so it isn’t that. We’ll go out soonish to some stores and look at some really light formula mascaras, I THINK that should help solve your mascara woes significantly.

Mary I think the teddy bear mascara brush (such as the full and soft one) is helpful for not pasting long lashes together into spidery spindles. Avoid the Great Lash, which definitely does spidery spindles, but for my (short, sparse) lashes that wasn’t really an issue.

Also: why can’t I find Max Factor stuff anywhere (anywhere = CVS, in this case)? I want to do a head-to-head comparison between full and soft and 2000 calorie, but can’t fine 2000 calorie!

Wal-mart has Max Factor

If you wiggle the brush from side to side as you work upwards, it can help prevent the spindles.

I shouldn’t try to wear mascara, I never manage it without it getting a bit spindly, which is ok for looking quasi french new wave but not for everyday!

xpost, yeah, don’t really need to lose weight but could use more exercise, mostly to have more energy.

^^ cosigned, maybe we should have a DC Fitness Club for 2007??

If I wiggle it past the bottom half of my lashes, they spindle back together again. I have really, really fine, long, curly lashes though so they’re a bit difficult to keep neat.

Oh yeah, my heart just bleeds for you people and your long, curly eyelashes. Such suffering in this world.

Yeah. Ya’ll have it really, really tough.

If it makes you both feel better my eyelashes are almost completely invisible without mascara despite length and curliness.

Confession, I have never used an eye lash curler and they kind of scare me.

I am a daily eyelash curler, for realz.

eye lash curlers look kind of like torture devices, no? I am afraid of them, even though I have very straight lashes so could clearly benefit from their use.

xpost: so quincie, they won’t accidentally pop one of my eyeballs out?

My facial hair thinks it’s blonde = do not leave house w/o mascara. Never curled mine, either. I think all that “opens up your face” business is mostly nonsense, nothing a little creative eyeliner couldn’t do just as well.

I have an eyelash curler but never used it.. i dunno, i get freaked out enough by wearing contacts & not having glasses protecting my eyes, much less trying to use curlers, pencils, etc.

I’ve never had an adverse eyelash curler event, and I’ve been curling for like a decade now. So go for it! Get a Shu Umura (sp?) one and it will last foreva.

Also: I needs to jump on DC Fitness Club bandwagon.

one benefit to uber-straight lashes: people sometimes think I’m wearing eyeliner when I’m not. actually, is that a benefit? not sure.

That is a benefit, I think.

eye lash curlers look kind of like torture devices, no?

This has to be the only reason they were banned on planes in the US. “Get back, before I CURL YOU!”

C. combed and curled my lashes, after I complained of sticky clumps. The medieval torture devise (cf Joey Potter) actually didn’t hurt at all.

Maybe I should just go for the Priscilla Presley stylee fake lashes. Also, I thought my lashes were average brownish black but I looked at them in the light today and they start off brown and then end up blond at the tips.

There must be a Sephora in DC, right? Maybe the tall DC gals could meet me and instruct me in the ways of womanhood:)

there’s a Sephora in the Pentagon City mall if I remember correctly. there’s probably one within DC proper, too.

Oh yeah there is a Sephora in G’town!

Oh god Georgetown—my mom and I had a post Christmas breakdown there.

By breakdown do you mean SHOPPING?

Unfortunately no; it was a parking breakdown which led to a bitter and acrimonious quarrel, somethat soothed by after-fight tea.

so since i obsessively buy cosmetics and perfume anyway, and i am looking to get some more writing experience under my belt, i decided to start a beauty blog last night.... can any of you ladies help me out in thinking of a really dead clever name? i am totally BLANKING right now.

Lipschtick.

I’m really, really bad at naming things :\

And yeah, M, there is a Sephora in Gtown and def. in Pentagon City, might be one at Tyson’s as well but I am not 100% on that.

lipschtick is good! i bet its taken already...

beauty mark?

I want there to be a pun somewhere in make-up/mark-up but I’m missing it.

http://lipschtick.typepad.com

huzzah!

entry number one!

Yay! I left a comment.

re: baby oil—i would think it would just be moisturizing! reminds me i need to buy eye cream cause i ran out like a month ago and i am getting old!

can someone find me an awesome pair of black pumps? i need a heel that is not too ridiculous so that i can go to work in them but everything with a normal heel is ugly and it seems giant heels are in this year. i’ve been putting off buying a pair but i really need to now since i seem to have lost my other ones (which were far past their prime anyway).

What is a good eye cream? I buy some Neutrogena kinds every now and again but I forget to use it because I think to do so would be to accept the aging process.

loreal eye defense is what i had before. my aunt recommended it and said she’s used it for years. she has very nice skin for someone close to 50, which she credits to lots of moisturizing. i credit her not having kids to wear her out. but i try to keep a nice skincare regimen anyway!

baby oil kind of creeps me out because its mineral oil.. its like, yuck, i am smearing petroleum on myself!

i just realized how dumb i sound

yeah but after removing the makeup you still wash your face... i think it’d be ok!

shiny black patent. classy.. (delman—$150)

My girlfriend got those and the burgundy ones. They’re awesome!!

can we recreate this thread on nuilx?

bump! I missed this whole thread until today and am so bummed cuz so much cool info was exchange. I spent most of my dull work day today reading all the posts you made more than a week ago. Now all of you are gone and I have no one to play with and talk girly things with. I am just gonna continue this thread my ownself!

I am in total mascara crisis now. I thought I had found the bomb kickin mascara, Loreal Shocking Volume. It’s one of those with 2 applicators one is a brush to “prep” lashes and the other is a really cool tiny comb that coats your lashes with black mascara (starting at the base of lashes and pulling all the way to the top.) It looks so great once it’s on, and I have wimpy lashes & brows that I have tinted every 3 weeks otherwise it looks like I have no lashes up til recently (for like 4 years) I haven’t worn mascara first cuz I had an allergic reaction to it then it just stopped being a habit and I got used to seeing myself without it and so did everyone else. The tinting was enough to at least look like I had some lashes. Back to my Loreral story. The stuff looks so great on, and it stays on…and stays on and stays on. No matter what you do, remover, Vaseline, soap water nothing! It won’t come off. It starts to get really sticky after a couple of days and I can’t help but touch my eyes – to find my lashes are coming out in clumps! Argh! It begins to break down and do the raccoon thing under your eyes on day 4 and by then I have rubbed my eyes so much and put so much crap on to try and get it off, I have a red irritation all around my eyes and look horrible! So much potential for that product but not after all that! Into the trash it went.

Do you all know that Lancome Loreal Maybelline and Biotherm are owned by the same company (Cosmair) and that many of the products are the same or only slightly different but are packaged and of course sold in different places (pricy Lancome in the department stores and Loreal at CVS) they are marketed for different customers and wallet sizes. Same for Estee Lauder and Jane being the same. I rarely buy “luxury” brands for this reason unless I know them to be (or at least believe) that I am getting something I can’t get at the local drug store.

I use Loreal foundation really lightly and doesn’t rub off on anything and it’s not that horrible orange or fake redish color that so many base make-up’s get when applied. I use very little bluse and it’s still after 5 years “orgasm” by Nars. Lipstick—always a dilema, hate dry lips, but hate it when the lipstick rubs off on everything, cups, people, clothes, phones....yeech. I have wound up with one of the “indelible” types (apply once in the morning and its on til you take it off at night in a really neutral shade just a little darker than my own lips are. That’s my routine, boring but quick.