Just take the test, JB. I don’t think it’s the be all and end all, the way my mum does. Just another interesting personality dissector. A bit better than astrology, but not as good as that INTP analysis thing.
Take what applies, ignore the rest.
Ed,
I don’t think that you should go to grad school unless you know exactly what it is that you want to study, as it is expensive and generally doesn’t open your prospects that much wider unless it is in a specific skill.
Yesss.
Also (in all good humor :) you know where you can take your monopoly money cracks. It is SUCH a drag literally getting poorer every day.
A bit better than astrology
well, I should hope so!
The Brooklyn Polytechnic’s Business and Transport planning courses look interesting (although the latter look a bit road focussed, unsurprisingly)
Dude, my family are South African. You want to talk about Monopoly Money... when I was 8, the Rand was just about equal to the Dollar. By the time I was 20, it was 8 Rand to the Dollar or something. I don’t even know what it is any more, since the last of my family’s money has finally come out of the country.
Yes, but your family deserved it. South Africa was ruled by a tyrannic regime that spread fear and—oh, wait...
Yes, Mitya, exactly.
x-post, yes, I don’t think you’ll get good rail based courses in America for some reason or other. Which is odd, considering how their country was dominated by railroads for the entire 19th Century. But the auto industry, yadda yadda.
My mum won’t take trains now, which I find very odd. She’ll take busses perfectly happy. I had to direct her to Lambeth Palace by bus. I think it’s the 3 that goes there, but i’m not sure.
I’m equal parts 1,3 and 5! I’m either a perfect representation of humankind, or a schizo. So no help there then.
Gastric flu sounds probable. I’ve been told that coke is good for gastric flu, so I’ve just downed a can, and feel no appreciable improvement. I’m gonna leave it till lunch and if I don’t feel any better, I’m going home.
Kate, she could check out Captain Bligh’s grave at the same time. That’s right by there. I remember my teacher at primary school when we were on a tour of central London commenting on Bligh’s rowing feats “I rowed round Cheshunt Pond the other day and that wore me out!”
Generally, if you read the descriptions (and the “average level” ones are more helpful than the others) you can pick which one is “most” you. I can definitely see Type 1 in you, tho.
Don’t down cans of things, *sip* things. Slooowly. The best thing for gastic flu, actually, is ginger tea. And not eating anything solid for 24 hours.
x-post, yes, Bligh’s tomb is in the grounds of Lambeth Palace—we saw it when we went on the Parks of Lambeth walk.
The similar minds test tells me I am a social Type 2. Although 9 is close behind.
type score type behavior motivation
2 50 I must be helpful and caring to be happy.
9 48 I must be peaceful and easy to get along with to be happy.
8 41 I must be strong and in control to be happy.
1 40 I must be perfect and good to be happy.
7 38 I must be high and entertained to be happy.
5 36 I must be knowledgable and independent to be happy.
3 34 I must be impressive and attractive to be happy.
6 27 I must be secure and safe to be happy.
4 14 I must avoid painful feelings to be happy.
Hrmmm, that is very interesting. I’m still not convinced by the test, but I suppose it brings out hidden motivations that I had not considered in others.
I’ve been told that coke is good for gastric flu
My mother believed this, too, but it always had to be flat. Also sipping only.
Flat Coke is for hangovers, innit? Perhaps it’s not gastric flu at all, perhaps I have passed my viral infection chesty-wheezy thing down teh interwebs to you.
No, I’ve got the chesty weezy thing, but I got that from Dara who got it from an Iguana. Hang on! You were at ATP! Maybe you got the Iguana Flu as well, Ailsa!
Type 9 was my highest! The Peacemaker—The easy-going, self-effacing type. Type 4 and Type 6 were a joint close second (the Individualist and the Loyalist).
Maybe I did! Oh noes! Mrs aldo wasn’t very well either! ATP is bad for you!
Actually, I just took the test again, and I got a tied 1 (perfectionist) and 5 (investigator) with 4 trailing behind.
My problem with all of these tests is that personality is not a static thing. Everyone is different things in different situations, to a greater or lesser extent. I could be a 1 at work, a 5 in my creative life and a 4 in my relationships.
Also, personalities change and grow and develop or negative patterns get reinforced. I was a lot more of a 4 when I was younger, but I’ve mellowed, a lot.
Hi guys! A baby came out of me!
Hope all is well in the Watercooler, things are better than well with me, Matt and Alice (although time has no meaning and sleeping through the night is a distant memory.)
The Simple Minds Test dissed me :( Said I was Type 6 Anxiety. Which could be true, I guess.
6 20 I must be secure and safe to be happy.
9 15 I must be peaceful and easy to get along with to be happy.
3 14 I must be impressive and attractive to be happy.
5 13 I must be knowledgable and independent to be happy.
2 11 I must be helpful and caring to be happy.
1 8 I must be perfect and good to be happy.
4 8 I must avoid painful feelings to be happy.
8 7 I must be strong and in control to be happy.
7 6 I must be high and entertained to be happy.
Congratulations Archel!!!!!!!
Wahoo.
Hi, Archel! Congratulations yet again!
I didn’t think that Simple Minds test was as good as the one with the cartoons. Some of the questions were not very clear.
Hooray, Archel.
What does it mean when all of my trait scores, bar two are above 30, and all of jels are 20 or below. Have I got more personality as well as having a different one?
I’ll try the cartoons one after lunch.
Archel, I have a card for you and Matt but I don’t know if I have the right address (does that hotmail address work?)
Yay to Archel and co!
*does a little dance routine to celebrate*
I think Jel just took a shorter test!
Morning, (or technically afternoon)!
HUUUGE Congrats Archel!!! This is wondrous and lovely and very best wishes to you and mr.Archel (and baby Archel).
I am equal parts investigator and enthusiast. Agreed with kate on the different categories for different parts of your life.
But I think the the fact that someone views these are separate is very revealing. I always think of an article I read where there were ‘analogue’ and ‘digital’ people. Analogues viewed their life as one whole continuum, made very close friendships at work, socialized with work people at weekends etc etc and were often very upset when they had an argument with someone at work. Others (e.g me) are digital and see ‘work’ and ‘life’ as very separate. We can be more detached about work problems, tend not to socialise with colleagues as much etc etc.
Hope everyone is feeling not too bad with their various cold and ailments (Ailsa, Ed, Kate). I am hoping for the greatest comeback since lazarus by testing the old ribs in my trad boxing day morning rugby match. It’s amazing how much improvement there’s been this week from last week’s ‘too excruciating to move’ pain. I am borrowing body-padding, which I have previously eschwed as ‘puffy’ and ‘not manly’, just in case.
I am very digital. I am almost a completely different person in the different aspects of my life. (I always tell the story of how my ex partner was utterly *astonished* when I sat down and did his accounts, at how completely a different person I became when I worked.)
Take care of yourself at rugby, tho, Dr. C! I know I sound like an old worrywort but it can take weeks for bones to knit properly—it sounds like they are healing, but you do not want to undo all the good work and go back to “unable to move” by re-injuring them again!
How about you do something less strenuous on boxing day. Like, say, err, ice skating or somethign! ;-)
I am fully recovered, thanks. (I feel hungover from too much geuze and cherry beer, but that is another matter entirely)
I feel a lot better. I popped into the office this morning to see if they were replacing me* and they aren’t, so I don’t get to be all stressed, and I feel pretty much back to normal now, though am continuing to obey doctor’s order and not actually do any work.
* temp agency putting fear of God into me about them getting in another temp so I wouldn’t be needed, but having discussed with colleagues we think she’s just cross at losing out on commission due to me not getting paid
I am analogue but I used to be digital under Dr C’s classification.
many congratulations Archel! Do you have pictures? Flickr ect are blocked so I can’t look at photo-sharing sites but the email addy works.
geuze—what’s that Ed? Sounds like something you might cough up.
I HAVE to play in thee rugger, kate, it’s traditional. I have played for the last 19 years I think—twice with broken nose! Seriously I painted a room yesterday which involved lifting VERY heavy wardrobes and stuff around and have no ill effects, so I should be OK.
kate—here’s something you’ll like : I was rehearsing with the ‘new band’ on Tuesday. One of the studio blokes came into the room to get a mike or something—he stood near the door until we’d finished the song and at the end said ‘that’s really like a band called Rain Parade’. Whoa!! Whole new band thing validated by one comment. I (and our singer and drummer) REALLY REALLY REALLY love Rain Parade, not that we were trying to rip them off, but for him to say that really made me feel we’re on the right track. Have you ever felt that way after someone has commented on yr music?
congrats archel!
Yes!
That is the best feeling, when someone picks up on something that is not necessarily overt, but is very definitely a huge influence—or a huge inspiration, rather.
That was especially true in the last band, when people would compare us to such lame things—even if it were in a favourable light i.e. “you’re so much better than The Pipettes”—it’s just like, dude, we’re not even trying to do the same thing as them, why are we being compared? No relevance!
But every now and then someone would come up with something (Spirea X, Lush, Brian Wilson, krautrock, Stereolab—especially Stereolab) that got such a huge “yes! you get where we are going *to* rather than what we are coming from!” that it would make it worthwhile.
Yes—Pipettes v your last band is idiocy.
In Fr4ctured I am so fucking sick of ‘hey you guys sound like The Fall’. Not that I don’t like the Fall, but it’s just too obvious. My biggest compliment ever in Fr4ctured was actually a bit of a diss, but it made me feel good—some reviewer said ‘the Inspirals tendencies of the organist may not be to everyone’s taste’. Ha! I am so bloody crap on the keybd.
It’s nice when someone puts that extra bit of effort into their comparisons.
A soundman once, after a L0ll!es soundcheck, asked us “you’re probably going to think I’m making this up, but have you ever heard of a band called Young Marble Giants?” I nearly kissed him on the spot.
The funny thing is, when I saw you, you did the song “We’re the Support Band” which i thought was pretty funny, but it wasn’t until I saw I Ludicrous in Oxford a few weeks ago that I found out it was one of their songs coz they played it in their set. Later I contacted Will hung via myspace and told him about that and he said he was good mates with you guys.
I thought A Nation Mourns sounded like Uncertain Smile era The The.
We rewrote quite a few of the words to Support Band for our version, but yes the orig is theirs. Will and John are good mates of ours yes. When we played with IL and Frank Sidebottom this year, they insisted that we did it and not them. Maybe it’s time to hand it on to someone else soon, like a modern-day folk song?
Oh blimey—you saw the only ANM gig in 17 years, Mark? Actually yes, yes I remember you were there with Starry and DG and others. We’re back in 2007! We’re a bit different sounding, I’m aiming for sort of a cross between Magazine and Rain Parade, but who knows what people will make of it. ‘The The’ sounds not a million miles off. There will be a single early on in the year all being well. (April-ish?).
On the cartoon site test I am a type 5 (score of 6) but with 6 and 3 scoring 5 and 2,7 and 9 scoring 4.
Ed—what’s geuze?
Type of Belgian beer, its a lambic so its got a lot of lactic sourness although it matured much like champagne (stuff last night was 2002 vintage). It actually has a very champagne like not to the taste. The geuze Boon we were drinking last night was quite mild and very fruity. My favourite, Drie Fonteinen, is really quite sour but is so good on a hot summers day. Geuze is the basis for most belgian fruit beers.
Yes I have been to the Bull and Gate twice in my life, Dr. C, and both times I saw one of yr bands!
Do you like Quadrupel (sp?) Ed? They sell it at the aptly named Classic Wine on Cowley Road. It’s the Trappissed monks’ way of leading you to alkyhell!
Bleurgh, post lunch slump and I ate too many chocoaltes so I’m feeling *very* funny. Where is something monotonous I can work on while the sugar slump wears off?
I have not tried Quadrupel, but I’d like to
Cor, 10%, monks really know how to get to alkyhell, what with all the beer, buckfast and benedictine (do monk make a drink not beginning with ‘b’)
Capuccino.
My flu got worse (i felt all fluuey and floaty, like I was heavy and light at the same time) and I got a mjor headache, so I went home. Am now posting from bed, with a plentiful supply of water and a hot water bottle.
I hope I’m better by tomorrow. I’ve got code to write for year-end :(...
xpost, that’s name after monks rather than by monks.
It was made by monks originally. They used to get hyped up on coffee to bring themselves closer to god.
Anyway, FRANGELICO!!!
JB, that is just too indulgent, internet in bed.
What else would I use my laptop for? Blogging in the garden? Downloading p0rn in the loo?
x-post JB Sod the code, drink medicinal whiskey.
xx-post Ah, I see Ed. Someone sent me a case of mixed Belgian beer a couple of years ago—La Trappe was one of them. Lots of various frooty beers. I still have some of the bottles—will check for geuze type things.
Yes! Hot toddies all round. If you’re going to be ill, you might as well go to alkyhell.
(I wonder how my mum would feel if she knew she’d contributed to our lingo so wonderfully.)
How do I make hot toddies again? (I know it’s upthread somewhere, but please indulge a dying man.)
Get whisky. Drink. Fuck a hot toddy.
Fuck a hot toddy
more accidents happen at Christmas time than any other time of year. Some involve scalding.
Cuddle the whisky bottle under the covers and your feverish body will hot the toddy.
Shot of whiskey. Teaspoon of honey. Squirt of lemon juice. Some cloves. And top it up with boiling water.
You will still be sick. You just won’t care.
(xxxpost to Dr.C)
CAMRA type de-lurking for a bit. If you try the geuze do not be put off by your first swig. It’s an acquired taste, but well worth the effort, as I sure Ed will testify.
Peronally, I’d plump for the Cantillion, which is so sour as to make your lips do the lemony thing, but so, so, good.
Two shots of pepper vodka will, in fact, cure your cold, although it probably won’t be anywhere near as pleasant as a toddy, Johnny.
Okay, that will make me sick, and I will care.
I shall search out the Cantillion. I’m in Belgium again in January.
Organic too, I like the sound of this even more
I should try me some of that. Sounds interesting.
See instead of a hot toddy, you should go for mulled wine or mulled brandy or somesuch, so you can be festive and happy instead of drinking mank that you know you are only drinking to stop feeling poorly.
*skips through to kitchen*
Hot toddy is hardly mank! I’d drink it every day in winter if I didn’t think it would lead me to alkyhell.
It still kind of smacks of medicine (albeit in a booze-related way), whereas mulled wine is NICE and still contains fruit and spices and convinces as a hot soothing good-for-you sort of drink and has LOTS OF BOOZE, especially booze in the form of red wine, num.
Wait, you think there is *more* booze in red wine than in whisky?
Also, I suppose it depends on whether you actually like the taste of whisky, lemon, honey, etc. I made one with laphroaigh and although that would make my gran spin in her grave, it was lovely, like drinking a smokey peat barbeque. But nicer, if you know what I mean. (I do not drink liquid smoke.)
Bottles of pre-prepared mulled wine hurt me in my heart—I saw some in the supermarket this morning. Half the fun of it is putting all the *special stuff* in it and brewing it up.
you should go for mulled wine or mulled brandy or somesuch
Boos Glogg
Yeah, aldo took a bottle of that to ATP and it sat mocking me before going back into his car untouched at the end of the weekend.
Wait, you think there is *more* booze in red wine than in whisky?
Of course not. But you do not have to dilute it down with hot water, and you end up drinking more of it because you make it by the great big pan-load and not just by the mugful. Hot toddies, with their ginger and lemon and stuff are merely boiled cough mixture with booze in it.
You are a crazy person.
I’m having so much trouble with this report, I just can’t seem to crack the aging on it—too many things going on, too many parameters. I hate the insurance side of the business, the maths is so freaking complex because of all the relationships involved and the reports can’t really handle it.
Speaking of crazy people, that troll thread is a minefield, but it is quite interesting trying to get some perspective on why people behave in these ways. From the horses’ mouths, what they actually think they are doing. It’s a real freakshow, but I can’t help rubbernecking.
It may have been untouched at ATP but I knocked the arse out of it last night. Hic.
xpost about Swedish mulled brandy alkyness.
I’m going to get some to take up north for Christmas, I think.
hot toddy is ok but it lacks the essential element of camomile. everybody knows that when ill one has to be drinking camomile with whiskey and honey.
i’m opening a christmas orphans centre at mine at xmas to make and drink mulled wine. this centre will have me in it.
I hate everything right now.
Work is shit. Everyone is giving me things to do that need to be done instantly, and they do not seem to understand that said things would take quite a while even if I didn’t already have a huge pile of other “instant” jobs to do.
The goth seems to have lost interest after the weekend we had together.
The friend I was going to visit next week has cancelled. So now I am just going to be stuck at home with my mum all week, getting more and more pissed off with her.
Aaaargh, I need to get out of here somehow.
where “here” = this town, this family, this job, everything
I went and looked at a pointed nose for a while and then felt a bit better. I still don’t know how to deal with this report, though.
Don’t you ever, like, injure yourself or anything, with that nose? God, it’s simply amazing. (I try to stop myself from acting like this, but it’s just too enjoyable. Aaaaahhh.)
God, it’s like an addiction or something. I mustn’t.... no, I mustn’t... no, no, I REALLY mustn’t. OH BUT I MUST, I REALLY MUST!!!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!
::big happy rush::
Followed by crippling shame again a few minutes later.
I’m out of here soon and will not be on the web much over christmas. I haf now to drive 150 miles thru fog to collect the in-laws for the holidays.
Everyone—keep safe and well and have a splendid time with loved ones over the holidays. Much love xx
Happy Winter Consumerfest, Dr. C!
Happy Christmas!
And to you! Eat, drink, be merry etc etc xx I am having one last coffee before I brave the fog.
(please go and kiss Beryl under the mistletoe and report back)
“What does it mean when all of my trait scores, bar two are above 30, and all of jels are 20 or below. Have I got more personality as well as having a different one?
I took a 50 question test. I seemed to select the middle button mainly, I couldn’t decide. You may well have more personality than me ed.
I couldn’t be bother taking the tests. What does that make me?
Kate/Ned check emails, something in it that will just make your day.
Man, it is going to be a drag next week when you guys aren’t around.
Or maybe today, even.
I’m around today but only for four hours.
My boss got me a box of chocolates! Now I feel bad because I didn’t get her anything.
Aaargh, I’m rushed off my feet—at this rate i’ll be working all night to get all the “urgent” jobs done
Don’t feel bad, she’s the boss, she earns more money than you, it’s in her interests to be good to her staff, it’s what bosses do at Christmas.
Hmm... what about those of us who don’t get choccies from our bosses?
(especially as my boss made, um, by my reckoning at least 4mn on tuesday when we got bought out by some austrians)
I’m here today and tomorrow. Offline sunday and monday, back online on Tuesday, back at work on Thursday.
We’re spending Christmas day at jill’s mum’s place. jill’s mum is very nice and kind & stuff, but there’s not much to do there. I was planning on watching loads of telly and drinking myself into a stupor, but last night I hit on the idea of taking down the zeit sequencer, a synthesiser module and a set of headphones, which sounds like a much better idea.
2006 was a bit crap (mainly lack of money/trade @ work), but nevertheless a fair bit better than 2005. Hopefully ’07 will get better still.
I’ll be here all the way through. Do you get monday off, Mitya or do you have to wait for New Year and Orthodox xmas for that?
I will being going offline at 2pm today and won’t be back until the 2nd or 3rd January. (Depends when we are doing Year End.) Hurrah!
(I may check my email once or twice in between, though.)
2006 was mostly OK. Some really good things happened. And very few really awful things happened. So on balance, it was OK.
I got BOOZE from my old boss. He’s a nice bloke. This year I got loads of grief for being ill and no present. I know which one I prefer and would be tempted to be more loyal to (if I hadn’t been made redundant).
2006 was shite. I’m in my third job of the year, I am more skint than I was last year, I am a stupid idiot for thinking packing in a really well-paid job on a point of principle was a good idea (the principle was sound, but I didn’t really take time to examine my future options and I think I’m kind of screwed now). On the other hand, my family, friends and loved ones are all fit and healthy and well and I haven’t had any big personal cock-ups in my life outside of work (ended 2005 convinced I didn’t have any friends in the world—was proved very wrong by a pleasantly sociable 2006), so I can’t really complain.
I’m going away tomorrow lunchtime and won’t be back until Wednesday or Thursday night.