Oh, the users are idiots. This morning I was getting flack because “oh no, this report doesn’t show all the packs out that people are saying they are sending!” Guess what? Go into the actual ops, they never sent a pack! Taking sides: a database that tracks all correspondance vs. conslutants that we know exaggerate and downright LIE about their caseloads.

This afternoon I’m getting this idiot who couldn’t even brief me properly about whether he wanted to examine open cases or closed cases (a £10 million difference there)—finally after telling me he wanted to look at open cases, not closed ones, I make the report—but he’s still LOOKING AT the old report.

::bashes head against desk::

I’m sure that none of this will make sense to anyone else, but basically 1) if people don’t tell me what they want, how can I give it to them? 2) LOOK AT THE RIGHT REPORT, DUMMIE!!! and 3) who ya gonna trust? Huh? impartial MI or people who get paid on commission?

Today I wish I hadn’t come back to work. Why can’t I just quit and live on shoegazing and cartoon drawing? Oh wait, coz I have a mortgage and Tiffany Glass elephant lamps.

I was sorely tempted to stay in bed this morning and not go in to work.

It might have been a better decision, FP. I so nearly did that yesterday, but then I got the news that there was a power cut.

The dude guilty of 1 and 2 just stopped by my desk and apologised. But still.

Man, I had a nap after lunch yesterday, it was great.

Today I have to make do with cat pictures.

Good lord this thread is huge now. Anyway hi dere.

Hi Dr Ned!

Morning, Ned.

I am in denial and trying to pretend that ILX will be back 4 realz tomorrow. Before I go starting another thread.

Cool Hawkwind picture from another thread:

Ed, if you come onstage with us, please can you wear goggles like that?

hi ned.

more kittens pls, in the last 20 minutes i started to feel like total shit. WHY?

Oh noes, what kind of shit? Physical or mental?

If the former, have a hot drink. If the latter, here are some cat pictures:

This site is the motherlode of all cat pictures:

http://themot.org/gallery/v/Cats/criticalmass.jpg.html

aw aw aw! thank you :( it is mental shit! i hate it! i was FINE—more than fine, feeling good because i just went for a cruise to pick up my phone (they didn’t fix it, the fuckers—sent it back with a letter saying “oh, water’s got in it, it’s uneconomical for us to fix it” and the lady in the shop agreed with me that it probably was condensation and no, there probably wasn’t any way to avoid that, and no, it wasn’t my fault, with all the conviction of a dead fish. but i don’t really mind, due an upgrade in 2 weeks anyway) and it was a lovely ride and on the way back was thinking i was feeling very fit and strong these last few days (possibly just relief at being able to Do Stuff again after 4 days last week trapped indoors with the lurgee), then i came home and had a cup of tea and... collapsed.

Aw, see, try not to overdo things the first couple of days after you get better from a big, serious illness. You tend to think that you’re OK because you’re finally over it, but you’re still weak from inactivity. And that physical “ugh” can turn into mental “ugh”.

Relax and look at some cat pictures, it will do you a world of good. I kept laughing out loud to the point where people were looking at me. But my colleagues know when I’m having a rough day, I look at cat pictures or something.

I can do all of those chords apart from F natural (A will require a capo as I can’t do bar chords on the first fret yet, and the other variation of A). Can you send me samples of what you want me to play along with?

I will make you a CD of the set and bring it tomorrow.

Honestly, you don’t have to play anything complicated! On a lot of this stuff, what it actually needs is the drone note accentuated—not chords, but literally just a drone, the same note in one or two octaves. The Pop melodies move around this note, but don’t bother with those—just play the drone note.

got aim up for the next 1/2hr, kerr.

I am slowly being convinced. G D and A are the scales I can do.

or anyone else, obv

Aw, see, try not to overdo things the first couple of days after you get better from a big, serious illness. You tend to think that you’re OK because you’re finally over it, but you’re still weak from inactivity.

haha i think that’s what happened on friday night/saturday daytime... i mean, i NEVER sleep that much. 5–7 hours a night usually, tops.

And that physical “ugh” can turn into mental “ugh”.

but it was a physical “yay!” i was all twisty and floaty and FAST and it felt good.

xpost

True, but I don’t have to think so hard about that.

I don’t have AIM, Pash, and I can’t chat. :-(

Honestly, Ed, no scales, no chords. Maybe very limited movement in songs like Noyfriend that have a principle chord and a modulation (that is the G to F natural one) but mostly drone.

I chose all the songs for this set because they are songs that have a very strong drone element—a single note that goes through the whole song. Because I wanted Frances to do super-wubbulation on those notes on the Silver Machine.

I totally misread Norm’s post there.

OK, let’s see.

meebo.com

might not work well on citrix as it is very web 2.0 but meebo is a great way of doing IM without clients.

No one was ever interested in a Watercooler AIM chat last time you tried Norman.

But i’m coming on anyway.

I would, but I have to leave the house in 5 minutes.

I totally want Bob Calvert style goggles for this gig. Is that so wrong? Will I look like a stupid cyberdog technogoff or something?

What on *earth* can you say on a Watercooler AIM chat that you can’t say here? This pretty much *is* an AIM chat to all intents and purposes.

Or is it like your version of the noize board where you bitch about non-Watercooler people you don’t like but where you don’t actually put it on the board?

no, we just talk about music, basically, ailsa.

it’s not really a watercooler aim chat, I dunno where kerr got that idea from, tbh.

Right, fair enough, never having joined in I didn’t know if there was some other alternate non-public Watercooler.

OMG

Hours of fun, that site!

I’m making no progress here, I should go home. :-(

I WANT A CAT

usually if i feel like this i can play with teh baby for half an hour and feel ok again. but teh baby is in teh brazil. I WANT A CAT! *stamps feet*

Can’t you go round Amp’s and play with her cat? (Are you still catsitting while they are in India?)

ooh i dunno! i hope so! those pictures of their cat are the CUETEST thing. i’m going out in half an hour to see frank t so no time to go anywhere else.

WOO-HOOO!!! I have cracked it.

The nidiots asked to have all inactive employees removed from the report—so that’s why it’s not balancing with the other report. Ha ha! I can go back and say it’s coz they’re Nidiots, not coz the report is wrong.

Can’t you go round Amp’s and play with her cat?

I would like to make it clear that I have nothing to add here.

Good morning, people!

Argh, what a day. Got up only to have my power go out at 9am—luckily just before I’d got in the shower, not during. I knew I should have got up when the rubbish was collected. So I’ve had no shower, no tea and err, I still missed the 9.33 train by 30 seconds. Bah! It’s ALWAYS late. The one I ended up getting on was 5 minutes late. It SAID on the announcement board that it was going to arrive at 9.35 but at 9:33:30 when I arrived on the platform, it was pulling out. BASTARDS!!!

How is everyone’s VD going? Stupid VD.

Yeah, ok. Slow start. Now on second coffee, still in pajamas. Not quite raining, but certainly pretty shitty out. Wondering if I should ‘work from home’.

At least our power hasn’t gone out. Jeez.

I am actually doing something with someone on VD for the first time since 2000.

That reminds me, need coffee!

Have just booked ANOTHER Shimuras gig for April. Blimey. AMP suggested getting yet another of her sisters to play with us. No, there is only SO MUCH PAYNE I can handle.

What are you doing, FP, getting stretched on a pink heart-shaped rack for VD? ;-)

morning! i am v pleased that there was nothing vd-related in the post. also last night i saw FRANK TURNER he is ACE lots better than i’d thought. half political, half heartbroken, funny and sharp and sweet and wears a hat and gets a lot of love from his public... i can’t stand the borderline but the atmosphere in there last night was lush.

(Should I make a tolerance for Payne pun? Oops.)

So a better mood then!

I didn’t even check the post today. Yesterday I got VD from my MUM which is almost worse than not getting it at all. ::rolls eyew::

Look, Gooblar, you’ve got your hott brothers, I’ve got my hott sisters, but there are very few puns you can make about inclement bandmates, are there?

‘Threshold of Payne’ would make a good band name.

still a bit emo so i ate some biscuits.

EMO BISCUITS!!! That would be a good B&G band name.

wait, must stop this.

I’ve been granted Clementsy from joining in this silliness.

Can I mention that my head hurts due to over indulgence in things argentinian last night?

also I have just been called by a head-hunter.

What were you doing in Argentina last night, Ed? (Do not answer that if it is related to verboten topics, but just make, like, a sign or something.)

Head hunter? Ooh, exciting—what kind of tribe are they representing?

I used to get scared when head-hunters called my dad. I did not understand it was just an expression. Too many stories my mum told me about head hunters and witch doctors while growing up in Africa.

That’s funny. And that’s exciting, Ed!

argentinian? knee-socks? erm lamb?

It is not verboten I don’t think, I was eating dinner with Mr and Mrs Hand in an argentinian steak place on broadway market. everything cooked on a big open fire. (really nice cheese and spinach empanadas, and plates of melted salty provalone too).

Head hunters for the broadcast tribe, representing one of the spun off bits of a monolithic broadcasting corporation.

Hrrrm, that sounds interesting, how serious are these head hunters?

Everything cooked on a big open fire? Aren’t there EU Elf directives against that sort of thing?

I am wearing the other glasses today, and they are TERRIBLE for my peripheral vision. It really annoys me. They have these huge chunky legs blocking out half my vision, and also the glasses do not go all the way to the edge of the frame in some weird kind of architectural thing (I hope they’re supposed to be like that, and they didn’t just run out of glass) so the edges of my vision are all blurry.

I am not getting stretched on anything! I am taking the girl I’m seeing at the moment to one of the local munches, then going back to hers.

so er did you see the uk has the most miserable children in the western world? http://society.guardian.co.uk/children/story/0,,2012512,00.html they were on about it on the radio this morning but i was half asleep and all i caught was someone going “the questions are all negative! and anyway, they’re kids! they’re supposed to hate school! and everything else|!” and not really engaging in the conversation properly. and yesterday there was another hand-wringing prog about “affluenza” http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/main.jhtml?xml=/health/2007/01/08/haffluenza08.xml so yeah. where are we going, and what are we doing in this handcart?

xpost kate you’ll get used to it, i have 2 pairs with the arm vision blocking things and it was bloody annoying when cycling in them at first bc when looking over my shoulder to check for traffic they were *exactly* in the way. but you just get used to it, and turn your head further.

I have thin German minimalist glasses (from, er, Specsavers), I’d probably go mental if I had something in my peripheral all day.

I don’t know, but I got a request for my CV just now.

FP, how can you post things like that and not expect us to think it sounds dirty? ;-)

Argh, I may get different glasses next paycheck, because although these look great, it is bloody annoying. My head just doesn’t turn that far, I have constant problems with my neck. Also, I may need an extra pair of reading glasses, as these are just too strong.

Affluenza... oh dear, that’s the problem of the moment, isn’t it? Another word for middle class angst? I read Alain de Botton on Status Anxiety, but that’s about as far as I go. Maybe I will go and read the Guardian article, but these things tend to kind of wind me up!

CV request? that sounds promising.

I have a funny feeling I really hate Oliver James, but I can’t seem to remember why. What else of his have I read? Or am I mixing him up with someone else? (He is not Oliver Sacks, who I like.)

dunno, i don’t think i’d heard of him before but it’s a forgettable kind of name. affluenza tbh seems to be something that he’s spent three months and countless hours researching and interviewing people about and the conclusion is a bit YA RLY. i mean, he could have just asked me, and i could have told him.

Hm emsk in the Norwegian papers the Norwegian kids were most miserable in western world! (Well apart from Portugal and Poland or something, I did not read very attentively.)

Ha ha, my mum has just sent me ANOTHER tweed jacket. Oh, excellent.

It’s just a bit embarrassing that she always sends these things to work.

I’ve heard “affluenza” before—it’s just one of those buzzwords. Like I said, De Botton was talking about it in Status Anxiety, which *is* a very good, thoughtful, well written book.

Damn, I am now covered in little bits of fluff and corgi hair.

Another word for middle class angst?

I think there’s more to it than that. Apparently, it’s sgnificantly worse in English speaking societies (i.e. free market societies)

... what I mean is, it’s not just about hip young professionals feeling neurotic

“Stop being American, start being British” was the advice offered, so I think it goes even more specific than that.

Try being a bit more European and socialist

Kate, sorry for using your name in that other thread—it’s good intentioned I promise and certainly I didn’t mean or want to upset you.

Mark ... maybe we should take this off board, but I don’t know. I’ve been doing my very best not to get wound up by ILX this week, and just ignore blatant attempts to wind me up. Part of not getting bullied is simply not reacting to provocation. If you don’t reinforce provocative behaviour with reactions, then eventually they stop trying. It’s one day at a time.

But it’s difficult when even your supposed friends start getting in the act.

I mean, that locked “ILX is down” thread ... I mean, honestly—WTF? I feel like I’m getting blamed for things I had nothing to do with, because someone else has some “thing” for me. I don’t want to drag all this back up. TBH, it’s like I was tried and convicted without ever getting a defense—when quite frankly, I couldn’t even be bothered with dignifying some of the allegations with a defense.

I go offline with the dreaded lurgy for 3 or 4 days, and suddenly everyone is saying I’m the reason that JW decided to hack ILX. (News to me—the last contact I had with JW was an email exchange to the effect of “j/k we’re friends now I thought”.)

And now here’s my name all over a thread about trolls? Thanks! Reinforce that image I’m trying to distance myself from.

I am going to regret hitting the submit button, but hey, I have to say something.

I’m not trying to start a conversation, or go back to the horribleness of last week, (unsolicited “advice” or criticism on the interweb says a LOT more about the advisor than the advisee) but honestly, enough. If you don’t like me, just leave me alone. If you do like me, why perpetuate this horribleness?

You’re not getting away with saying Yesterday I got VD from my MUM which is almost worse than not getting it at all.

No way.

It is a funny to call Valentine’s Day and related cardage “VD”. Because it makes the smug marrieds embarrassed.

Surely no-one thinks you’re to blame for the jw thing, k8!

(Actually, my guess is that he picked out you to ban because, well, that would kind of be the jw thing to do (like hacking in in the first place was), rather than from true renewed antikate malice.)

Did he actually ban me? I mean, that’s the question. I never experienced any banning. I never saw *him* or any proper moderators actually admit that I was the person he banned.

This is what I mean by being tried and convicted without evidence.

But then again, like I said, I was offline for the whole thing. Maybe he admitted it on the other ILX.

Anyway, let’s not talk about this, because I don’t want this thread to turn into “ILX is down” part two. More kitten pictures, please. Or dirty dronerock boys or something.

This deserves repeating

er lots of xposts

i think he’s right, w all his affluenza stuff, but it’s kind of obvious, no? like—set up your society like this, and of course all your citizens will end up feeling like that.

kate if you go to lilyallenmusic.com and sign up for the email list they’ll send you some kind of free mp3 version of the album or something.

Or it would if I used the right url

Argh, what happened?

Don’t worry, Benjamin! I still love you! I was only kidding when I said the Sonic Screwdriver was better than yr pedals!

Emsk, I have the Lilly Allen album! I bought it last month. But it kind of got burried because I played the Howling Bells album too much.

AW THOSE CATS

That has got to be photoshopped!

That said, I prefer the yin/yang cats.

If you do like me, why perpetuate this horribleness?

I do like you, and I absolutely didn’t mean to! The people who will always be arseholes will always be arseholes whatever; I started the thread to make the NICE people who just blithely join in the abuse realise that they are being dicks, and hopefully they’ll then stop.

Again, I’m sorry to have named you (or anyone for that matter) and I’ll aks the mods to take the names out.

Holy SHIT boss bf1 flanger pedal $636!!!!

I have messages in my OKC account. What do I do? Eep! I can’t get the site to delete my profile. Bah.

Can someone who has photoshop please photoshop a kitten head onto the snake, and add the words “I want these muthafucking kittens off this motherfucking messageboard NOW!!!”

(for Kerr, not me, obviously.)

KITTENS ON A THREAD!!!

and also “WHAT IS IT WITH ALL THESE KITTENS ON ILX?!” Please.

(Does anyone know how, in paint, not to make that awful white box appear around text?)

Click the lower button that has a cylinder, a ball and a box. (You’ve got two of those, right?)

Ah, thank you! the mystery is solved!

Time for a “Sub Sub Zero” thread, surely?

“There aint no love, there aint no use” perhaps...

I want to call it THE ALL SHOEGAZING ALL DRONEROCK NO SPORT NO REALITY TV DO NOT READ IF YOU HATE KATE WATERCOOLER OF EXTREME JOY but that would be kind of asking for it, wouldn’t it?

I have just had a thought on the way back from lunch and it has made me chuckle.

Get the extra sister and you can be the ‘Sweet Mistress of Paynes’

heehee.

GO FOR IT K8