..... you have a bus full of shrieking passangers??
(no, I don’t know what a “passanger” is, either)
.. momus arrives
xxpost
guys i deftly made that point about two hrs ago, do keep up.
u r too deft sir
admin clerks overlooked again!
A girl at work has found him on myspace...
I’ve just been looking!! Can you email me the link?
Or put it on here.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=85784962
Just found him. Looks like the BBC got their photo there.
From his horoscope today
... your cleverness can get you into more trouble than you can imagine.
If he didn’t do it, wanna bet he’ll be on Big Brother next season?
That whole horoscope is priceless.
xpost Whaddya mean, if he didn’t do it?
Well if he did do it he’d be on I’m A Serial Killer, Get Me Out Of Here!
He’s not on Friendsreunited. Perhaps he doesn’t have any friends.
You’re surely not suggesting that a bloke who hangs around with prostitutes half his age might be some sort of *loner*, are you?!
Has he tunes?
Somebody check Puntersreunited.
Tom is in your extended network
EEEAAAAGGGHRHHRHRHRHRHR
this has probably been covered but it’s appalling that newscasts say “five murdered prostitutes”, like you become your job.
Our newsreaders do not say that. They say “women working as prostitutes”, which I think is better.
The BBC went through a phase of calling them “sex workers” in an effort to get away from the prostitute label, but I think it sounds slightly weird.
guardian says he has eight myspace friends — that’s seven now. and one of them is tom.
accentmonkey, jaymc reads the news where you live???
“Who I’d like to meet: Goddoh”
FAIL
(if that’s an attempted “waiting for godot” joke)
VITAL CLUE:
Ah—hence his “the bishop” tag, perhaps?
**guardian says he has eight myspace friends — that’s seven now. and one of them is tom.**
Ewing knows him? My god he might have posted here. If only we could search.
And his picture and voice are gone again:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/suffolk/6189409.stm
I wonder why he calls himself “The Bishop”? Monty Python?
Is he the chap that was going round and paying prostitutes to listen to him bang on about Je3u3?
No, that’s just “a bishop”.
No that was Jesus.
xpost
Isn’t 3 googleproof for E?
je3u3 = jeeue
King of teh Jeeues
No, he was a reverend. http://imdb.com/title/tt0087100/
(xxxpost)
no, that was bruce wayne
Je3u3 looks better than J3s3s. Or J3333.
the fuck? whoever that was DEFINITELY did it.
Je5u5?
je5u5?
ha xp
Doesn’t look like a BMW. Or even a BMX.
xpost: he’s digging a hole for the bodies. :-(
Is that a foot in the bushes behind him?
xpost
That Mirror interview is bonkers. It reads like a Python skit:
MICHAEL DUFFY: Your name has cropped up in the investigation because you know the girls.
TOM STEPHENS: I’m going to cry.
MD: That’s OK mate.
MD: Police have shown an interest in you. Are you worried that you could end up in the frame for the murders?
TS: I could get arrested. That is quite likely, let’s not say likely, let’s say possible.
MD: You seem an intelligent guy, you’re a good-looking bloke. Why spend time with drug-addicted prostitutes? Why not find yourself a nice girl.
TS: On paper I should be attractive, but there is something about me women do not like. Mostly, it’s on account of me killing them.
Looks like a Little Red X.
(x-post)
He Doesn’t Look A Thing Like Jesus
ffs this thread is repulsive.
It’s not as bad as the imdb thread.
You should also see the level of debate on the blog of one of Mr. Ripper’s 7 remaining contacts..... she isn’t really getting much mercy.....
myspace gone
where is that picture from?
This picture gallery from Sky News shows some floral tributes left for the five victims. Message number 1 is from Tom …
Did anyone else see his pic for the first time and think “New Radicals”?
YO PEOPLE. i know it’s very unlikely that sandbox ILX will find itself on the wrong end of a contempt-of-court charge (or a defamation one!), but could we exercise a TINY bit of restraint here on legal grounds—let alone taste ones?
i’ve asked stet to de-index this thread anyway :)
legal grounds
IE: Since the sandbox is britishes, we’re as liable as anyone for contempt. If he gets charged, somebody lock this thread pls.
i’m for locking it now :)
and if—it’s a big if, but hey—the dude goes free, let’s delete the fucker before his lawyer tracks us down anyway.
yeah there have only been like a billion message boards talking about this guy and linking the myspace profile today, i’m sure bro’s “lawyer” will go after ilx first.
doesn’t have to be first, or even only, just named as part of combined prejudice.
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=80907245&blogid=206959134&page=1
It is the best message board thread ever, it’s like every joker on the internet has their own open mic spot.
Jeezeo, makes ILX look like the House of Lords. Ironic that the Mirror group have helped provide so much free publicity for a Murdoch enterprise.
Wishfuk thinking
favorite typo evah
Second person held, just announced on Belgian radio, no details yet.
Oh, I had to click “UK” first, it’s not on the World front page:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/suffolk/6192085.stm
And, indeed, as some of you rightly pointed out, BBC has been criticised for their interview and the pictures of Tom X.
Man, parts of the British press are vile.
Most of the British press is vile, Stan.
I thought it was only The Sun and NME :-/
:-)
Compared to some of the press we’re being pretty restrained on here.
Personally I feel conflicted—firstly I want whoever this maniac is in custody as quickly as possible, secondly, you just know that time and again the police (with press collusion) have fcked up at this stage and I don’t want to see someone locked up for 20 years because he knew some people who got murdered, At least they didn’t shoot him as he came out of his house.
The police have been pretty good in this case at keeping a lid on anything coming out from inside the investigation that could prejudice a trial.
I remain really hopeful that they wouldn’t have pulled him in without being pretty damned sure they had sufficient evidence. I was surprised by how much personal detail about him was released, though—and I see that they haven’t said much about the second man they’ve arrested, other than his age and vague location.
I did chuckle a little at that Mirror article which Stan posted the link to : “Another neighbour, who would only give her name as Mrs Wynel.....”
Typically the Times this morning came out with the usual “eccentric loner” stuff.
The Suffolk constabulary and the media both need to take great care not to turn this into an excuse for locking up the local misfit, Barry George/Stefan Kiszko-style.
I don’t think the police have released much personal detail on the man, there was so much in the Public Domain about him already.
ffs that Mirror article is pathetic, is that newspaper run by children?
Lesley-Anne Barber, 50, said he had been spotted in his garden wearing tight Lycra shorts and a sleeveless T-shirt despite the chilly winter temperatures..“
Plasterer Paul Bridges, 37, said: ”He’s one of those blokes who is very much a keep-fit fanatic. I see him out running a lot and on his bike.“
erm, and the sky is blue and the grass is green?
Depends on the time of year. Sometimes it’s grey and cold.
OH NO, I know someone who runs a lot and has a bike too... Should I phone the police?
The lycra shorts are the clincher.
The entire population of Clapham have just been taken into custody...
Yes, lycra shorts are a bit tight, aren’t they?
People just love to chime in with their two penn’orth. “Oooh yes, I always knew there was something funny about him”.
They just love the attention.
I don’t think the police have released much personal detail on the man, there was so much in the Public Domain about him already.
There’s an article on the BBC website which was pretty much “according to his MySpace page he works at Tescos” etc. The Pretty much everything else people know about him seems to be be stuff he told the Daily Mirror. I haven’t learned anything new from skimming reports since his arrest. I nipped into a petrol station earlier today and the front of one of the tabloids was questioning whether he was just a fantasist rather than the murderer, so they aren’t all “hang the bastard” quite yet.
(note for overseas viewers, the headlines of The Sun and The Star and The Mail and The Express go a frighteningly long way to influencing the Great British Person On The Street)
I only have about seven friends on Friendster. I spent too long posting crap on teh interwebs. Imagine what they’d be saying about me!
“she only had about seven friends on friendster. She spent a lot of time on the internet and seemed to worry about what we’d say about her if she was ever arrested on suspicion of murder”
Exactly. Easily done, innit?
My money is on this Tom geezer being the local nutter/fantasist. They probably had to arrest him and give him a thorough checking after the press reports whether they thought he was really suspicious or not.
Is there anything more on the ‘we have narrowed the list of suspects down to 50’ line?
“One time we were discussing the killings and she said ‘Easily done, innit?’”
She had two x’es after her name, like trophies for the two she’d killed, a 34 year old Belgian who could only give his name as Stan M stated.
the headlines of The Sun and The Star and The Mail and The Express go a frighteningly long way to influencing the Great British Person On The Street)
That’s too depressing to even think about.
I remember when my dad was questioned over the Yorkshire ripper incident. The police were sat in our lounge talking to him and my mum walked past with a pile of laundry and joked: “oh Keith, I wish you wouldn’t get so many blood stains on your clothes”.
true story.
Then he took the bobbies to the local pub and got them pissed.
Hang on, you’re actually accusing me of murder now?
*rings Max Clifford*
(xpost, haha, they’d both be jailed for ages for that now, like all those wacksters who get nicked at airports and cause major security scares for saying things like “no, officer, you can’t look in my bag because you’ll find my bomb, haha, lolz, aren’t I funny?”
yeah a mate of mine was strip searched at an airport for saying something equally ‘witty’. the tool.
“She spends a lot of time on the internet chatting to a guy whose Dad was involved in the Yorkshire Ripper murders”
Part of the forum she hung around on was called ILM, which a worried member of the public who wants to remain anonymous says is short for I Love Murder.
... sister forum to I Love Execution
.. not forgetting the Aja/Dante forum
“She’d gone home sick from work the other day”, added a 38 year old woman (who wished to be known only by her initials), “because she’d got a really bad cold which she’d probably caught when she was out late at night in the cold and damp hanging about the street corners looking for her next victim”
Sinister thread titles include “Chop or Dice?” and “Poison Only One”.
Was formerly a member of an Internet cult known only as Sinister, frequented by loners and geeks.
(stet: this has been de-indexed, hasn’t it?)
it’s nothing to do with how “restrained” we’re being. contempt is contempt is contempt, and as soon as someone’s charged we need to STFU quite quickly.
yes, it’s very unlikely ILX would even show up on the radar ... but we were talking about this at work the other night, and one day either a) a trial is going to collapse because internet chatter is deemed to have prejudiced it; or b) some judge somewhere will snap and there’ll be court orders flying about at every pissant little chat site on the web.
old ILX (and indeed nu-ILX) are very arguably not british: they’re not hosted here, and i doubt myspace is either. thehold, however, is. so can we just keep it sensible? (which, in fairness, it pretty much is.) thank you.
anyway: now that this second bloke has been arrested, it’s all got very bizarre. i imagine stephens was arrested, as ed and others have suggested, simply because the police had no choice: i mean, if he’s going around giving these—let’s face it—fucking weird interviews to the press and they didn’t arrest him, there’d no doubt be an outcry. and yes, given the amount he’s has already said, the police have done a superb job keeping a lid on things. i don’t imagine we’ll find out shit about this second guy (unless he’s released without charge, natch).
With the amount of detail we know about him, he needs protection, regardless of his guilt/innocence.
yes. absolutely.
will that happen? hmm.
Why do they call you grim and fiend, by the way? ^_^
How is chatting about stuff (which is already in the public domain) on the internet any more prejudicial than chatting about it at work or down the pub etc?
er: because it’s written down and everybody—eg every potential juror in the land—can see it?
because IT’S THE LAW? :(
FWIW, i think UK contempt laws are fucking insane, but i don’t think that would stand me in particularly good stead if i fell foul of them.
should we start talking about the 53r14L k1ll3r 1n 1p5w1tch ?