I got up early today, got to work early, and have been bustin’ ass all morning. It kind of surprises me how productive I can be seemingly at random.

Anyone been to Nashville? I recall Otto (and probably others) discussing the greater Tennessee region before, if not Nashville specifically. I’m going there tomorrow for a wedding this weekend and will need places to kill time while my friends in the wedding party do their rehearsal, etc.

I don’t want to tell you who the person was who wrote the IUD email, but the person who wrote that last one is Sayjal! Those of you who know her will probably agree that she is an ideal elf.

Hmmm. This headshot does not look a lot like her....

weird you say that dan, i’m booking a ticket for my boss for a conference in nashville right now. only places i know in nashville are the springwater, the exit inn, and the end which are all bars/venues.

Molly Doll to thread!

Let’s post pictures of Sayjal

I don’t want to tell you who the person was who wrote the IUD email, but the person who wrote that last one is Sayjal!

You said it was the same person. Oh wait...

HOLY. FUCKING. POOPED. MY. PANTS. (but i’m not wearing pants)— It sounded like my house just got struck by lightning.

Is it raining or something?

SOMEBODY JUSS POOPED

I love this storm, but I wish I could have seen the look on my face when the last lightning and simultaneous thunderclap struck. It was one of those trebley ones that sound more like *CRRRRRACK!!*

Where is this? I see Jeff eating in the background.

Remember when I had a crush on Sayjal?

Yes, dear.

Hey, a question:

“to support an organization that’s mission and goals I truly support” is grammatically correct but sounds really awkward. Could I get by with saying “whose mission and goals”?

I’m in love with this website:

http://wsu.edu/~brians/errors/errors.html

I love linguistics and grammar on the trivia level.

Sayjal is cuet.

I would say “whose”, yeah.

Whose certainly sounds better, but can an organization technically be a who?

An organization can be a ‘they’, so why not?

Where is this? I see Jeff eating in the background.

Robin’s going away party, at that place where she stayed when she moved here.

That’s a great picture of me. I look thin.

Technically doesn’t always win! Jesse you need a tattoo on your forehead that says “Don’t hate me because I’m a prescriptivist.”

I am most certainly NOT a prescriptivist.

You’re the one arguing about which pronunciation is “correct”!

I asked for some help editing my coverletter and it came back with “that’s” which I knew was technically correct, but my ear balked at. Then my ear puked. So I gave my ear some Emetrol and ginger beer, which helped a bit, but it was still feeling a little queasy.

xpost: But I was arguing against John’s prescriptivist ways!

Whatever prescriptivism I preach is for comic effect, or to make an argument more interesting.

Re the other night, I honestly thought that Jesse was telling me that “horrible” and “whore” had different vowel sounds IN THE MIDWEST. My mistake.

Haha, I was just thinking “that’s a great picture of Jeff! He also looks thin.”

I am listening to Scott Walker. I had never heard of him before, save for seeing him listed on Jeff’s myspace last.fm pages. Weird stuff.

So I guess sayja1 wouldn’t be freaked out at all that we’ve posted so many pix of her on a thread? But anyway, yes, she is cute. She is so cute that she can say the most disgusting things and it still makes you go awwwww...

I think “whose” is probably best, but if you feel weird about it, would it be too clunky to say, “an organization with a mission and goals”? Or “an organization that has a mission and goals”?

Daniel-san

When Sayjal, Jenny and I worked at the restaurant in NC she once said, “I need a ‘poon for my ‘poon.“

Meaning what?

You mean: ‘poon for my poon’

Meaning “I need a tampon for my poontang.”

Yes, that is what I meant.

Wouldn’t that be a ‘pon for my poon?

Another question: does anyone wear double-breasted jackets anymore? I had one years ago and I looked GREAT in it. I’ve been reading up on suits and from what I read, they complement body types such as mine, but aren’t they pretty much out of style? Or at least temporal? Not an classic, enduring style? Help.

I do not want to think about sayjal’s poon ok thanks.

xpost— maybe, but calling it a tampoon is funnier.

I was just being picky.

Oh I thought you meant a harpoon — because of that pesky cervix.

When I say years ago, I mean yeeeears ago

Double-breasted, with pinstripes! I looked 6’4“ in that suit.

And a goddamn pink carnation boutinierre with fucking baby’s breath!

Jesse: Classic if you are European. Technically always allowable even for USians, but with certain overtones that are sort of out of vogue right now (partly because DBs were picked up in the late ’80s-early ’90s and came to signify erm established order/financial power and successful masculinity/smarminess). I equate them with older Italian-American men who also oil their hair back and wear pinkie rings. If you want to overturn the type, TOTALLY DO IT.

There’s also the whole yachting/anchor-buttons part but that comes to my mind second...and I don’t like that type, either.

Also, that suit in your photo isn’t double-breasted! WTF?

Huh. I always remember that suit as being DB’ed.

I don’t think I would feel good in a DB suit.

http://www.themorningnews.org/archives/opinions/mens_fashion_part_1_suits.php

I like this article a lot.

I thought double-breasted suits were cool when I was a kid and I had one. Now I think they are indeed way out of fashion.

Also, that suit in your photo isn’t double-breasted! WTF?

Yeah, I’m glad it’s not just me!

Where should I buy a suit for $300 or less? I am wary of Men’s Warehouse, but I can’t afford Macy Field’s. I found a jacket I liked at Filene’s basement once. Also a well-dressed homo told me that H&M was a good place to buy a suit, but I’m very very wary of them.

Go to that place we went, Justin’s uncle’s roommate’s store.

Oh wait I thought you said $3000 or less.

Why are you wary of Men’s Warehouse? They did me right, although you all know that I know nothing about fashion and don’t care enough to make distinctions. But I think the suit I bought there looks good on me.

What’s wrong with Men’s Warehouse? Or H&M?

xpost

I like that article, too, Jesse. Their whole series is nice, I remember having read it before. Also, I would like to go out sometime with a well-dressed man — I’m pretty sure I never have — but the balance, finding the balance between making sure you look sharp most of the time and, like, spending more time with your tailor than with ME, is so hard to find.

I want a place that will offer alterations. And a place that will not stuff your suit into a bag like H&M does (or did when Jenny bought a suit there). I don’t know what might be wrong with MW, but I have a feeling about them—like they will just show me a suit and send me out the door.

I don’t own any suits right now, so I want my only one to be as good/great as possible.

I got alterations at MW.

Jesse, H&M will have current styles and cuts, but quality is a serious issue with them. Tread carefully and check the linings and buttons and lapels to see that everything lies and hangs smoothly. And yeah, you need alterations! Pretty much no suit fits out of the box, as it were.

Men’s Warehouse...worries me. I’m sure you can do okay there if you’re really discerning...but I think they carry A LOT of schlock.

Difference: The staff at H&M are assholes. MW salesmen are classy and attentive.

Nick will be getting a suit at Christmas for DE VEDDING. His poppa will be helping him pick one out, so worst case scenario he’ll look like Indiana Jones for the wedding.

I’m sure you can do okay there if you’re really discerning

If I was discerning, I would not own a suit. My ignorance is precisely what allowed me to walk in and out of there in 15 minutes, and I felt amazing for having purchased a sharp-looking suit all by myself.

xpost Laurel:

I am kind of sad at how my last couple of dates went, sartorially speaking—both with regar to myself, and moreso my dates. Can anyone fucking try to dress up anymore?? (Granted the first guy was a loser, and the 2nd wore his working class status on his wrinkled threadbare sleeve and we went to a movie and coffee, respectively.)

I want to be a better-dressed person. But it’s hard when you dress the same every day for work (as a waiter does) and when you don’t really go anywhere that would require dressing up.

Laurel is OTM about MW. And H&M.

Also, how do suits look like schlock? They’re suits, for chrissakes! The point is that they make everyone look great!

Dan got his wedding suit at MW and they spent a lot of time on alterations. They were really nice, actually. Not snobby and he got a nice, all-purpose black suit + tie that sort of matched my dress.

Also, how do suits look like schlock? They’re suits, for chrissakes! The point is that they make everyone look great!

Oh dear, here we go again.

I have confidence in my ability to be discerning, but I don’t want to have to wade through crap that that MW asshole “GAHrantees” (talk about awful pronunciation).

lol @ “all suits look good”

(xp to Amanda) Yup, they were very friendly to me, too. I went there because I thought that was where people went to buy suits. It never occurred to me to go anywhere else.

Girls in NYC usually WAY outdress their boys...and it’s kind of understandable, because I, too, am a sucker for a sharp-jawed punk rock dirtbag with the right evil grin and no shirts with buttons in his closet. But it’s still a little sad, and it makes couples who dress to the same level TOTAL KNOCKOUTS.

John, read the article I posted and you will see.

Jesse, don’t ask him to read the article, we’ll only be arguing, I mean, talking about it all afternoon.

I don’t like to be outdressed. Just like I like to be just a little taller.

There is a law of diminishing returns, but it seems to me that just as with wine, in suits the range between terrible an acceptable is much wider than between acceptable and mouthwatering.

Oh dear, here we go again

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lol @ “all suits look good”

I like that suit. Who is that, Gregory Peck?

John, read the article I posted and you will see.

I did read that article. It said don’t wear a suit-jacket with jeans (yeah, duh), and it looked askance on single-button suits (okay, whatever), but other than that, I don’t know what you’re talking about.

J0rdan, please send me contact INFORMACION por CAM. I want to ask him for ideas/help on playing in milwaukee.

I like that suit. Who is that, Gregory Peck?

Yeah. And I guess you’re right — there’s a time and place for seersucker. And that time and place is when you’re Gregory Peck. Or Matlock.

I will kick the shins of any sucka who says that my hubs looked schlocky on our wedding day.

I mean they ALL just look alike! They’re fabric! Who cares if it’s wool and polyester? They’re both fabrics—how can they be different?

Don’t mess with the weasel.

They’re both fabrics—how can they be different?

You’re making my day a little brighter. Really.

Post pictures of mouthwatering suits here.

Look: I went to MW and knew I just wanted a basic black suit that I could wear for weddings. I didn’t know if I wanted one button or two, so I tried both on and decided I liked two. I didn’t want anything fancy, so I didn’t look at anything fancy. Based on that article, it seems like “bad suits” are suits that are trying to be all trendy or embellished somehow, with odd cuts or weird fabrics, but that inevitably fall flat. But if you know you just want a good basic suit that fits you, then I don’t know what’s wrong with Men’s Warehouse. If they have schlock there, I certainly wasn’t looking for it.

You know what I liked about NO? The fact that young heterosexual men — hetero and homo alike — could wear seersucker. And white linen. I loved White Linen Night when all the galleries opened their doors, NPR gave away fans, and many people wore white linen suits. You just can NOT do that in Chicago, even in the dog days of summer without looking like an old man or a douchebag.

I have accepted the fact that when/if I purchase a new suit, it will have to be at the (Big &) TALL Store.

After all this, I had better find a good suit.

Jesse I know a great haberdasher in Oconomowoc.

Laurel OTM. Why is that picture so hot? I can’t quite figure it out.

While we’re on the subject, I’ll just throw this out there: Fuck Pleated Pants.

You just can NOT do that in Chicago, even in the dog days of summer without looking like an old man or a douchebag.

Right. Or Matlock.

With a suit, a little tailoring goes a long way.

MW kind of looks like XEB — or they are at least the same physical type. It makes me messed up. I’d have liked to see that one dress awesomely during our association, with his build & looks he was CRYING OUT to be really, really sharp.

XEB = Xander Berkeley, from Safe?

Good look, Mr. White!

OH WAIT I GET IT NOW.

Where is Oconomonwoc?

I am not very skilled at dressing myself. Someone should dress me for best results.

The guy who runs the Center in New Orleans wears a suit every single day. It makes him seem covetous of a social class that he understands only in terms of being “dressed up,” while he ignores the importance of being appropriately dressed.