Whoa, there’s a secret message if you backwards messages“>play the Room 23 scene backwards.
haha so NOT a direct ripoff of Clockwork Orange then
HOMAGE TO
awesome!
time manipulation theory is a GO.
Time flux is necessary addition to the show’s mysteries probably because they want Malcolm David-Kelley to play Walt again in season 4 but also want it to make some kind of sense that he’s now an adult-sized teenager (as opposed to 10 yrs old). Luckily it is also kind of interesting.
So I looked up the domain registration for http://www.mittelosbioscience.org
And it’s actually registered to Richard Alpert, and he gives a Portland, OR registration address, but a fake phone number. ARG maybe starting up again?
Rousseau has never mentioned what year it was when she crashed, I just realized. All we have there as far as defining time data is the sixteen years the message has been repeating—on the island.
xpost I read on thefuselage.com that that is supposedly a fan-site, but it sure is fucking fancy-looking to have been slapped together by LOST fans.
http://one.revver.com/watch/165062/flv/affiliate/62101
^^^^spooky video linked from fansite
heh. making a creepy, distorted video is fast becoming the cosplay of lost fans.
who in the world has that much spare time?
apparantly next episode is Desmond Desmond Desmond, so any timeflux excitables (me!) will have a feast :D
OOH FEAST TIEM
I still really want an other to use the line “nah...we were just fucking with you guys that time!”. preferably Tom....“the lists?? you believed the lists!??”
I love realizing that not only was there new LOST LAST week, there will be new LOST THIS week too!
you can say this for the next FIFTEEN WEEKS too.
Yeah, this is taking a lot of getting used to. Pinch me?
Hey on another subject, in season two, does anyone when Jack and Kate meet the others in the woods, while trying to get Michael back, whether Tom says “you stay on your half of the island” or “you stay on your side of the island”?
Side.
Two days.
I do love Tom. I love the way he scurried for Jack after showing his blood revulsion.
i got really annoyed at Evangeline’s two acting skills—kicking ass and sobbing into a microphone (walkie talkie) while doing her sad darting eye thing.
Why did she have to fall down, just like she does every time they run through the jungle? Not her fault, but...it’s such a trope at this point.
And as has been pointed out upthread (the one in heaven/space)hammering the head of what’s his face until he is left twitching should not have been resolved as what’s his face suddenly awakening and escaping the cage to kill them.He shoulda been dead! or really disabled!
i hate any and every dramatic scene that has a female protaginist fumbling with whatever important thing she is handling.
it is done to death. the fluttering hands just don’t fucking work any more.
Another fucking trope! I am really embracing my profanity this morning!
Kate fumbling with the lock, the walkie talkie, etc. needs to stop.
Anywhoo, I ate some great pasta carbonara last night! And now my tummy hurts:(
Alison, maybe you should have fumbled your dinner fork more.
If they don’t start asking TechnoKarl questions like “WTF do the Others do/want ffs!?!?!” in the next few episodes, I will go mentalistic. Actually, because that would be so simple, I fully expect Karl to die as soon as he gets back to Lostie home base.
I was actually thinking he would die on the way back, and then Alex would hate them and not be their friend and not meet her birth mom and be emo with those big blue eyes of hers swoon.
My guess is that they make a big deal out of deprogramming him after all the others’ happy sunshine videos he watched.
In true LOST fashion he will probably survive, but his arrival to camp will be largely (if not entirely) ignored, no Sayid questioning, no Locke sweatlodge deprogramming, not even a “dude who’re you?” from Hurley.
He is a tap of answers and information. He’s so fucking doomed.
otm.
least favorite part about show.
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FWIW I actually like Karl and hope he isn’t as underutilized as I expect him to be. Not just as a plot device, but as a character. In fact...
MY PLEA TO DAMORN LINTELORF: PLEASE KILL NIKKI AND PAULO AND MAKE ALEX AND KARL REGULAR ACTORS-NAMES-IN-CREDITS FLASHBACK HAVING CHARACTERS PLZ THX.
PS ALSO TOM.
Dude, everybody knows that the execs are DAMIEN WANKMEOFF, GAYGAY ABRAHAMS and CARLTON CLUELESS.
If “everybody” = me and Melton, obv.
other than that, 100% agree.
actually, given Tom’s “big friendly bear” demeanor of later episodes (as opposed to the growling Zeke persona), is there any chance that he (or any of the other regular Others) are brainwash victims themselves?
I think Tom is a THESPIAN, whereas we saw him as this growling scary kid-stealing guy come to life off the Gorton’s fishstick box in the pre-Others Experience days, I think we’re now supposed to get that he was just sort of hamming it up and playing a part (a part that involved kidnapping, raft-exploding, and bola-ing, but whatever).
Which is why I want the pre-island Tom-in-a-high-school-production-of-My Fair Lady flashback.
No, make it Cats. Tom would make a wonderful Mr. Mistofelees.
Or Tom as the Phantom! Lost needs an injection of ott Andrew Lloyd Webber cheese.
Ok, maybe not Tom...
Thing is, it’s not very plausible that they would have built the Branewash facility after being on the island for X amount of time, on the off-chance that some goofs would fall out of the sky and rumble whatever the fuck it is that they’re doing. Thus, if the BW facility was part of the original setup, surely they would’ve taken some weak minded fools to the island to experiment on, that are now fully-fledged, albeit slightly brainwashed Others?
We need more Tom vs Sawyer zingplay, altho unlike Jack i guess Sawyer would still kill Tom given half a chance. i expect a situation will arise where Sawyer ‘warms’ to him more tho, as we have.
i am optimistic re Paolo and Nikki, in that either the writers will enable us to take great pleasure in seeing them be killed off by Island Momus or whoever OR they will actually become good characters somehow. i can’t be bothered to actually dislike them.
And as has been pointed out upthread (the one in heaven/space)hammering the head of what’s his face until he is left twitching should not have been resolved as what’s his face suddenly awakening and escaping the cage to kill them.He shoulda been dead! or really disabled!
I think the conclusion was that the hammering wasn’t that bad, it was the electric shock you get on the third press of that button that disabled him, and that wears off with no long-term effects fairly quickly.
you play too many video games, nicka.
I cast thee out!
Oh wait, this isn’t ILG. Carry on.
who could have foreseen that ben would have woken up eh/
oh right: ME
And Desmond.
getting sawyer and kate off the island was pure boilerplate, it really was. in the autumn sixer the flashbacks were rubbish and i liked juliet’s, but they still haven’t worked out how to deal with all the spare parts on the main island. they should have killed more of them by now. carl’s room was roffles.
Carl’s room was more than roffles, it was great. Please to brainwash me Others, it looks like fun :D
it was like the flat in ‘nathan barley’.
Your search—Nathan Barley—did not match any documents in your brain.
Off to google then for me!
has anyone ascertained the date juliet arrived on the island. if it was three years and change from november 2004, could it have been...?
oh okay it was 5th sept 01. it would be great if ‘lost’ did turn out to explain 9/11 in terms of an electromagnetic anomaly though.
I have seen it speculated that the date of the failsafing hatch meltdown might have been the same date on the LOST calender as the massive tsunami in 04.
nah that was boxing day. they aren’t at december yet i don’t think
did turn out to explain 9/11 in terms of an electromagnetic anomaly though
that would suck. if it explains El Nino tho then fair dos.
i am optimistic re Paolo and Nikki, in that either the writers will enable us to take great pleasure in seeing them be killed off by Island Momus or whoever OR they will actually become good characters somehow. i can’t be bothered to actually dislike them.
Damon and Carlton said in their last podcast that they understand the hate for Paolo and Nikki but that pretty soon we’ll be thankful for them. Whatever that means.
maybe they’ll save sawyer’s life and then go “WE HAVE TO GO NOW, OUR PLANET NEEDS US” and disappear.
only poxy fules are enslaved by time and space
I NEED A VERY SIMPLE ANSWER TO A VERY SIMPLE QUESTION: ARE THEY SHOWING LAST WEEK’S EPISODE RIGHT NOW????
yes.
u r in mtn, right?
yessir
whooooooa!
Yeah, this is a bit of an enlightening episode.
ok, wtf with the clockwork orange shit
(sorry, i’m a bit behind here people)
THE BUS WAHT
Don’t fall for it Desmond! Noooooo!
This is my favorite episode in as long as I can remember, partly because it has nothing to do with the main theme and partly because it has everything to do with the main theme!
wait, what, you guys are watching some different shit, shut up!
O HLY SHT
this is the US lost thread jerks
^^^^^^ listen to this guy
wait, can someone tell me a few things: what the fuck was tonight’s episode about? yes, desmond, but... i am truly confused, maybe because i missed the first 15 minutes b/c of ‘the departed’ watching?
From a mile away, he foresees that Claire is about to drown and runs and saves her. Hurley says “That dude can see the future.” Charlie’s deeply suspicious of this guy and decides to get him drunk to see what he’s all about. I think that’s what happened at the beginning. Does that help at all?
okay. yes, thank you. those are some BAD cuts in that episode.
next week looks good though.
as a matter of interest (i missed some of the 2nd season)...do they ever find walt?
You’re going to need to rent some DVDs.
“And it’s actually registered to Richard Alpert”
hey i didn’t catch that before. a tip of the hat to baba ram dass!
anyway, yay, charlie’s gonna die!!!
FUCK, SHIT, WHY AM I READIN THIS SHIT I THOUGHT WE WERE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE
oops, sorry, but really, we’re ALL gonna die, you know?
i missed cool people island. i wasn’t all that thrilled to be on loser island again. i’m beginning to think that i only really care about what happens to sawyer and kate.
wait, next week is the tattoo episode? aw man.
i also missed cool people island. fuck charlie in the face.
But he’s going to die! Don’t kick a brutha when he’s down like that.
Why would Desmond try so hard to keep Charlie from dying? Charlie can’t really be all that important, can he? I mean... think of all the other people Desmond could’ve saved!
Am I spelling “McCutcheon whisky” right? I am having no luck with internets.
haha LOSER ISLAND
Oh wait...dur hur ADMIRAL MCCUTCHEON.
No that doesn’t help much either, just a tv character...OR IS IT!?!?
i wouldnt let you drink my whiskey
that bar is HNL’s best place to go for godawful live music seven days a week. charlie on the street corner is preferable.
Richard Alpert
!!!!!!!!!
Why would Desmond try so hard to keep Charlie from dying?
UK looooove?
anyway, yay, charlie’s gonna die!!!
I was so happy at the end of this episode.
That old lady was totally a timelord, amirite? I kept expecting to see a police call box somewhere in the backround when she was talking to Desmond.
This was my favorite episode in a long time. I couldn’t stomach another week of Jack, Sawyer, and Kate. Loser Island is the best! But more importantly, they got back to the weirdness. The more they explain about Dharma/Hanzo/Others, the less I care. I really don’t understand people who need to know what’s going on. When the “Next week on Lost” said they’d be answering some of the island’s biggest questions, I thought, “Oh man, this is going to suck.”
But I also like Charlie, so I guess I’m in the minority in more than one way.
The more I think about this episode the more it breaks my heart—very well planned V-Day ep.
okay, next week’s preview totally excited me! maybe there are two kinds of lost fans? supernatural dreamscape loser island fans and nuts & bolts cage sex cool island fans?
i vote 4 loser island
I like it all. But they’re making the show so complicated there’s no access point for a new viewer. Maybe they’re doing it on purpose to try to get ABC to sign off on four seasons and out. Would the producers sabotage their own ratings?
yeah, i’m being a little silly. i don’t hate everyone on loser island. i just felt a little deflated by desmond dreamland after action and intrigue. i just didn’t care that much. nice to see penny again.
OTM Scott. Without the mystery and intrigue, this show means nothing to me. (And were they implying that Jack’s tats are one of the ISLAND’S! BIGGEST! SECRETS!?)
I have to admit that Charlie is annoying when he get’s all overprotective about Claire and the baby. But in that case, the clear solution is to kill off Claire and the baby. Charlie needs to stick around so I can giggle about Britpop never-weres and hobbits.
BTW guys Charlie singing “Wonderwall” was gay, except when you realize the first line Des heard him sing was “maybe you’re gonna be the one that saves me”.
Drunk Hurley’s “DUDE!” was his best utterance of the word since ever.
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Would the producers sabotage their own ratings?
Yes.
the clear solution is to kill off Claire and the baby.
OTM OTM OTM
how about just kill charlie and claire? the baby doesn’t bother me that much.
so after everything we saw last night, where do you think libby fits in with the boat?
Season 4
Dude loser island is soooo much better.
I definitely think the creators’ were right when they said this episode would make or break LOST for you—the whole “ZOMG FATE” and more “ISLAND ARE MAGICALS” implications could definitely turn a lot of people off. I LUFFED IT THOUGH.
I really liked it too, but felt this weird frustration when it was over, like, “um, was that really L O S T?”.
My favorite moment of the whole thing was probably the microwave beep.