Uh-oh—Rick’s talking about which departments he’d eliminate. Red flag, red flag.
I love how he says “legisla-tors.”
no one even believes he’s still running for president, so . . .
the real issue here is which GOP candidate will scoop up perry’s ad-maker (who is aces).
xp
low blow mike huckabee!
asking rick perry to define strict constructionism. shameful, gotcha question.
I hope they ask Mitt the favorite-founding-father question twice, right at the start and right at the end.
i hope for mitt, they bring out the props (e.g., video clips of his contrary prior positions, and copies of early editions of his books).
Mitt: “You already asked me that.”
Panelist: “Just checking in...”
“Fundamentally”? Hey, copyright infringement!
this is a crazy-off of the highest-order.
“I can...I can come out in support of that.” What a strange way to word that.
I do love when these people are forced to explain the logistics of something.
Paul now #2 in Iowa:
Newt Gingrich—25% (+18)
Ron Paul—18% (+6)
Mitt Romney—16% (-6)
Herman Cain—8% (-15)
Michele Bachmann—8% (+0)
Rick Perry—6% (-1)
Rick Santorum—6% (+1)
Jon Huntsman—2% (+1)
if that riddler look-a-like would end his doomed campaign, newt would open an even bigger gap against robot-mitt romney.
paul has a ceiling
ron paul stumbling on the issue of how he’d actually implement his radical, crazy program.
but ultimately, he gave an intellectually coherent — if unsatisfying — answer.
i used to believe that newt had a ceiling too...
Man, I hope this whole thing is just one big trap Huckabee’s set for Mitt.
“RON PAUL, IF YOU WERE A TREE, WHAT KIND OF A TREE WOULD YOU BE?”
wtf, ron paul, what about ANN F—-G RAND?
blown opportunity, IMO. atlas shrugged.
i figured he would recommend ann rand over the bible.
“I’m a tree...not a person anymore, a tree...I just want to make sure I’ve got the question right”—forgot, he’s out.
i am already ready to say mitt romney has collapsed in this forum.
Mitt’s eating up the clock!
that was a totally awkward opening by romney.
now back on longwinded message.
i figured he would recommend ann rand over the bible.
― Daniel, Esq., Saturday, December 3, 2011 9:29 PM (3 minutes ago)
haha idk if this was intentional on your part but if you ever want to troll a libertarian, refer to her as “ann rand”
“it’s AYN!”
ppl should just call her alisa rosenbaum
“i’m so sorry i didn’t pronounce alisa’s made up name correctly”
serious question, largely to alfred: what’s happening to romney? something is different, and worse, about him lately. not sure if it’s the forums he’s been in, maybe he’s rattled by gingrich, maybe he’s tired, not sure. but he doesn’t sound like the confident, resolute guy that he needs to be to win the GOP nomination.
i mean, the uneasiness in romney is on display tonight.
(sorry, it’s a question to anyone; i just know that alfred strongly believes it’s a foregone conclusion that romney will win the GOP nomination).
I showed my students a Godard clip on Friday. We’re very big on the cyber-learning up here.
There’s this neediness to Romney that’s quite unappealing. Newt’s a blowhard completely comfortable with himself.
and there’s your media moment for tomorrow.
ha ha ha (nervously) “I DON’T MEAN TO BE INSULTING”
He got through it—clumsily, but I can’t see that he hurt himself in any way. (Or helped, which is good.)
Perry’s just so funny. “Back...in their home district thing.”
(sorry, it’s a question to anyone; i just know that alfred strongly believes it’s a foregone conclusion that romney will win the GOP nomination).
Me and 500 GOP g-men. Besides, you guys are the only ones part of the claque that watched Romney’s one less than semi-pro interview last week.
LOLGOP Pete Nicely — Republicans, I’m so scared of this super smart Newt guy. PLEASE DON’T NOMINATE HIM.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
Romney’s one less than semi-pro interview last week
now two, btw, if you combine interview and debate performances.
Daniel, an honest question: why do you want Obama to win? Why are you so invested in a weak primary challenge?
sigh
that deserves a good answer, which i’ll try to give a little later. for now, i’ll say that, if we have to have a GOP president, i much prefer romney to others in the GOP field, but that’s weak praise.
yeah RAH RAH RAH GO MITT YES WE CAN
lol
@Shoq — The quality of these debates has really plunged since Herman Cain left the race.
lol
Huh, I was basically assuming that everyone here apart from Morbius was Team Obama.
Tongues are deeply piercing cheeks here.
Huh, I was basically assuming that everyone here apart from Morbius was Team Obama.
You know the Groucho Marx line.
“Once I shot a bunch of incompetent elephants in my pajamas.”
I think it was something like “A spectre is haunting Europe”
“Once I shot a bunch of incompetent elephants in my pajamas.”
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, December 4, 2011 8:27 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Permalink
hahahaha
Prediction: whoever gets the GOP nomination will get, at the very least, 48% of the votes cast. Good luck, USA.
the GOP nominee should get at least 48% of the vote. romney would. gingrich likely wouldn’t. the other non-romneys likely wouldn’t, either.
A TOP CAIN ADVISER tells us the former candidate plans to endorse in the next few weeks – certainly this month, in order to affect the Iowa caucuses – and is most likely to go GINGRICH. They have a personal relationship that goes back to Gingrich’s days as Speaker, a much longer relationship than Cain has with any of the others. And they disagree on few issues. Cain can offer some Iowa organization and his power as a surrogate in the African-American community (including churches), a weakness for the GOP.
from politico
They have a personal relationship that goes back to Gingrich’s days as Speaker, a much longer relationship than Cain has with any of the others.
so uh, little mental math here, i’d say that’s about a...13-year relationship
In return for his endorsement, Cain demands Michael Steele’s old job as chairman of the Republican Party. “I think I can bring more party discipline to the post than even Mr. Steele did,” Cain said, jauntily pronouncing the word as: ‘part-TAY’.
A couple of the Sunday shows pointed out that Gingrich missed the filing deadline for Missouri. If you look at the schedule, I don’t know if that means he missed the primary deadline (no delegates) or the caucus deadline (delegates), or if you can win the second without taking part in the first.
http://www.2012presidentialelectionnews.com/2012-republican-primary-schedule/
You’re running for president, for pete’s sake—get it together.
amaturish. that’s the kind of impression that can hurt gingrich.
Idea #3: get on the ballot.
Give Newt (Newt!) a break. As you may recall the man’s entire campaign staff quit en masse last summer. Missouri just got lost in the sauce.
For Pete’s sake.
It is mind boggling to me that Newt Gingrich is somehow shaking out as the front runner.
solid front-runner, at the moment. up by a big margin in iowa, and has 50% of the GOP support in florida. mind-boggling.
so it could go like this: gingrich takes iowa, romney takes NH, then someone takes south-carolina, which sets that someone up for the south . . .
if it’s gingrich/romney then there’s no way gingrich doesn’t take SC, imo. i would imagine that’s the part of the country most uncomfortable with mitt and newt’s a southerner.
i imagine it will prob go gingrich in iowa, romney in nh, gingrich in sc, then gingrich cleaning up with a few romney states here and there unless something major changes between here and the primaries.
One thing that will help Romney is that there’s a lot more proportioning of delegates this year, which’ll prevent Gingrich jumping out to too big a lead out of Iowa/NH/SC/Florida. I think they were worried about a Palin candidacy at the time the changes were made.
i imagine it will prob go gingrich in iowa, romney in nh, gingrich in sc, then gingrich cleaning up with a few romney states here and there unless something major changes between here and the primaries.
― furnace mane, Sunday, December 4, 2011
lol, first prediction of the GINGRICH JUGGERNAUT
Newt Gingrich’s campaign really from here on out has to be like a zombie movie, you are just waiting for something undead to come out and attack. That guy is so crooked and has been wheeling and dealing for so long—any day something could come out and derail him. Then again, the guy also likes the sound of his own voice and could end up shooting himself in the head with his mouth.
I’d have to think that this year more than any other a viable middle of the road independent candidate could come in and try to split the difference and maybe pull it off. Question is there really any political figure with the cash and without their own problems to even give something like that a shot (probably not).
Another worrisome sign for us riding the Newt wave. They had Tom Coburn on Meet the Press this morning, and he didn’t duck when asked if he could support Gingrich for the nomination (I think the question was actually if he could support him for president, but it amounts to the same thing in the end): no.
lol. in some ways, that benefits gingrich (unless coburn is a tea-party favorite; i’m too bleary-eyed from a work project to remember).
Possibly, I don’t know. Here’s the clip:
Fox, I mean. Coburn seems to have joined a Pearl Jam cover band.
I’d have to think that this year more than any other a viable middle of the road independent candidate could come in and try to split the difference and maybe pull it off. Question is there really any political figure with the cash and without their own problems to even give something like that a shot (probably not).
― earlnash, Sunday, December 4, 2011 5:33 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark
they’re there, and they’re just avoiding this election like the herpes outbreak it is.
there there
has anyone posted about cain’s pokemon speech
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1211/69700.html
Herman Cain quoted from Pokemon in a speech suspending his presidential campaign Saturday.
“I believe these words came from the Pokemon movie,” Cain said. “Life can be a challenge. Life can seem impossible. It’s never easy when there’s so much on the line. But you and I can make a difference. There’s a mission just for you and me.”
He continued: “Just look inside and you will find just what you can do.”
In previous speeches, Cain has attributed the quotation to “a poet.”
“they’re there, and they’re just avoiding this election like the herpes outbreak it is.”
One thing in Cain’s rise and fall that I think is kind of interesting is that in a way, just by riding the current media setup, he was able to become a household name in such a short period of time pretty much on his charisma. Forgetting what all he actually stood for, which was most likely just himself as to me it seems Cain obviously was just getting into this campaign hoping to raise his rep a bit to probably sell more books and get more speech appearances, I’d say by that measure it was entirely successful. Cain probably foolishly didn’t realize if you have been playing grab ass in the office for the past 15 years and had a longtime mistress, it wouldn’t come out, but he probably never figured he would have this much success to actually be vetted or have that level of scrutiny.
I’d think considering this phenomena and the fact that both political poles are so polarized with each side running even more polarizing candidates—it seems like a scenario where the odds of a third party middle candidate could have success.
was he really a household name? Only with those following primaries this early.
No snark intended — we overestimate the degree to which normal people follow this nonsense.
I think so, Cain’s more of a punchline at this point after all of the different allegations came out, but i think he got a pretty deep media saturation for someone who didn’t really spend that much money to do so.
I think in the age of smartphones and all, people keep up a bit more with the daily headlines more than they did say a decade or so ago. I think it is more a superficial knowledge of events, but names and personalities get known. Cain was a reality level tv star.
I think he was a household name by the time he bailed; I don’t think you would have had to be following very closely to have heard of him by that point.
yeah herman cain was definitely very famous the last couple months
I always figure one indicator of fame is how much of a person’s name you have to type into search before he/she jumps to the top of the list. If you type in “h-e,” herman’s at the top.
On the other hand, “j-e-s” gets Jessica Simpson at the top and Jesus fourth. So maybe that’s a flawed metric...
although about a month ago my young brother-in-law was staying with us and i was watching something that was talking about cain and he went “wait that’s herman cain? herman cain is black?”
And this is from a guy that literally nearly no one knew from bubkus a few months back who’s top political job was running Godfather’s pizza.
One thing I always think is interesting is how you will see political items like this start to bleed into entertainment news. Where you will see those little factoid kind of things put into web front pages at yahoo or similar, where you get a quote by Clint Eastwood on Herman Cain or something similar and kind of odd out of context mentions.
I always figure one indicator of fame is how much of a person’s name you have to type into search before he/she jumps to the top of the list. If you type in “h-e,” herman’s at the top.
― clemenza, Sunday, December 4, 2011 8:42 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink
Herpes 4th
If you go the full Herman, you get Herman Cain, Herman Miller, Herman Cain Wiki, and Herman Cain 999.
1) Who is Herman Miller?
2) Doesn’t anybody care about Herman Munster anymore?
Herman Miller is a brand of furniture.
where for art thou herman’s head
First up on a “famous Hermans” image search:
Two weeks from today the value of a Herman Cain endorsement will be near zero.
yeah it was really apparent how irrelevant he was even a few minutes into that speech yesterday
it’s sad i actually kind of liked him for some reason
who will sing for us now