OH A UNITY-TICKET GOOD IDEA.
I’m sure being LDS doesn’t help Huntsman. Since being LDS is considered one of Romney’s liabilities, it doesn’t help you position yourself as a not-Romney if you have the same liability. But I don’t think a non-LDS Huntsman would have done appreciably better, all else being equal. I just think that running as the most moderate Republican was not a winning strategy this year.
He’s not really a moderate, the rest of them are just plain loony.
“Because when I tendered my resignation, nobody asked me to stay.”
Paul goes after Gingrich, Huntsman goes after Romney—do Romney and Gingrich plan to go after each other at any point? (I know I should recognize the acronym, but what is LDS?)
Latter Day Saints, aka Mormon
so much drama in the LDS
I just think that running as the most moderate Republican was not a winning strategy this year.
I also think that his refusal to pander to the extremes infuriates the small sense of empowerment the tea partiers feel they’ve wrested from the Party.
i want to thank m. white for the xpost that prevented me from continuing on custos-style with matt’s joke
sorry
no, you saved us all
Otoh, the psychology of Mormon vampires kind of cracks me up.
I also think that his refusal to pander to the extremes infuriates the small sense of empowerment the tea partiers feel they’ve wrested from the Party.
Yeah, the non-Tea-Party vote has been sewn up by Romney, and Huntsman has never even tried to court the Tea Party vote.
“what’s Gingrich’s fundraising lookin like?” is a more pertinent question than “what does Rassmussen say?”
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, December 1, 2011 8:23 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Permalink
McCain had no money and then he won a couple primaries and it flew in. If Newt’s lead in Iowa and Florida holds up you’ll see the money come in fast.
McCain was that election’s chump — born to lose. All the Wall Street dough went to the other guy.
I mean, Cain was one thing. But Newt polling at 47% in Florida is a big deal. Yes, he might/should/probably will be torn down at some point. But we’re five weeks away from Iowa and the current storyline is Mitt looking unhinged in a room full of juice bottles.
now Wall Street’s confused.
McCain’s campaign was 1.5m in debt at the end of 2007. after those primary wins in january, he ended up raising 75m in the first three months of 2008.
People will get in line behind Gingrich if he notches up primary wins.
But we’re five weeks away from Iowa and the current storyline is Mitt looking unhinged in a room full of juice bottles.
and a week ago it was “this individual’s going to accuse me of an affair for an extended period of time”
GOP hopeful Newt Gingrich defended his stance against certain child labor laws during a campaign stop in Iowa Thursday, saying that children born into poverty aren’t accustomed to working unless it involves crime.
“Really poor children, in really poor neighborhoods have no habits of working and have nobody around them who works so they have no habit of showing up on Monday,” Gingrich claimed.
“They have no habit of staying all day, they have no habit of I do this and you give me cash unless it is illegal,” he added.
keep talkin Newt!
Plus w/o child labor laws we won’t need to employ the illegals! Picking in the fields is a lot easier when you’re three or feet tall so it’s actually a humanitarian gesture.
because youre just not insane enough mittens
Good job, Newt—this will really keep the momentum going:
GINGRICH: “They are not going to be the nominee. I don’t have to go around and point out the inconsistencies of people who are not going to be the nominee. They are not going to be the nominee.”
TAPPER: “You are going to be the nominee?”
GINGRICH: “I’m going to be the nominee.”
So maybe this will play out like the Larry Sanders episode where Hank gets to guest-host.
man this is going to be awesome
seriously try watching this without repeatedly, aloud just hollering OH MY GOD, OH MY GOD
why did no-one mention interracial marriage laws, here
oh man “they abide by the same laws as everyone else, they can marry a man or a woman” lololololol
hoping for a knock-down fight between romney and gingrich — nasty, brutish and personal.
haven’t we seen this already between Romney and Cain, Romney and Perry, Romney and Bachmann? What more can you want?
I can’t believe Herman Cain’s got his lawyer on Piers Morgan doing damage control. Would seem to be a little late—unless it’s damage control meant for Mrs. Cain. (“I know Herman Cain...Everyone knows Herman Cain—except Mrs. Herman Cain.”)
Even better—the guy’s just ridiculous.
haven’t we seen this already between Romney and Cain, Romney and Perry, Romney and Bachmann? What more can you want?
― Lord Sotosyn, Friday, December 2, 2011 1:55 AM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink
I don’t think anyone has come close to the venom and viciousness of attack that McCain, Thompson et al. mustered against Mitt in ’08.
Perry’s attacks were hapless.
haven’t we seen this already between Romney and Cain, Romney and Perry, Romney and Bachmann? What more can you want?
all those “attacks” were hamfisted, bungled, or relatively congenial.
these two, however, have the skills to be really nasty to each other.
Everything’s been exceptionally mild so far. Except for Perry’s shrill Hail Mary over the Mitt’s illegals, there’s been basically nothing until these Paul and Huntsman ads of the past two days.
Take out “the”—I haven’t started calling him “the Mitt,” promise.
Pretty clever reader comment from TPM: Newt Gingrich + Mitt Romney = Knute Romney, All-American.
lmbo @ bachmann getting pwned by high school girls.
a Dean scream from Donny Osmond
You’re supposed to smoke cigarettes, Mitt, not eat them
Perry did 10 minutes of what basically amounted to “Aw, shucks” on Leno last night. He’s back to calling Social Security a Ponzi scheme, so I guess he’s thrown in the towel.
Idea #1: Please shut up immediately until after the Iowa caucus!
Idea No. 2: all illegal immigrants must move to detroit, which will be otherwise emptied and turned into an internment camp, while we convene citizen counsels for individual “stay-or-go” trials for each one.
jonathan capehart is right: these comments by newt gingrich are really despicable. but i don’t think they’ll hurt him with base GOP voters.
An ideas factory, staffed w/ children
newt gingrich would turn white house into a “chocolate factory”
I’m seeing rumblings already that various socon types in Iowa are moving towards Santorum, but of course.
eventually all socons end up immersing themselves in santorum
for those who think romney is a really formidable general-election opponent, it’s bad news for the non-romneys to keep splitting the not-romney vote. so now — for many reasons — i especially hate santorum.
What the fuck, Newt, don’t you know that being an ideas factory is not a legitimate function of government?
I’m in panic mode today. It occurs to me that I’m rooting for a guy who’s...a tad undisciplined. (I think it’s funny beyond words that Newt thinks that congress right now is a good operational match for an “idea-factory” president.)
Interesting post:
http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2011/12/newts-appeal.html
Suggests that part of Newt’s appeal is his gift for highfalutin language and the snarky jab. Conservatives delight at the thought of Newt taking the professorial Obama down a peg.
Clips of Gingrich explaining why and how poor children can replace janitors will take him down a peg.
Newt’s flameout is going to be spectacular
*MJpopcorn.gif*
Clips of Gingrich explaining why and how poor children can replace janitors will take him down a peg.
not with the base, i’ll bet.
Indies decide elections, and in the general election Gingrich will collapse.
in a general-election v. obama? oh, gingrich will be crushed.
Clips of Gingrich explaining why and how poor children can replace janitors will take him down a peg.
You see, I think he’s just so focussed on job creation and what’s going to get America moving again, he sometimes gets ahead of himself.
The ideas flow freely.
Gingrich: The New Bob Dole
Indies decide elections, and in the general election Gingrich will collapse.
^^^
can’t imagine a lot of women flocking to Newtie’s campaign, for ex.
Now there’s a guy who I bet is not a big Newt fan. (xpost)
You’ve got to check this awesome list:
http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2011/11/fundamentally-newt-gingrichs-favorite-word.html
ezraklein Ezra Klein — Buy buy buy RT @DavMicRot: Steady downward trend for Romney finally pushes him below 50% yhoo.it/tM3wrZ
BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BYE BYE
For all my heartfelt Newt-love, this does say a lot: I wouldn’t even consider putting down anything more than fifty on him.
I’m fundamentally nervous every time he speaks.
fundamentally out of touch with the reality of the real world
d/n plz
Hmm...
not going to hurt him.
look, i don’t think newt gingrich will win the nomination. i still think romney will. but it’s a slight feeling, and i wouldn’t be surprised to see gincrich win. to me, it will be a function of two things: (a) does newt — like the anti-romneys before him — implode; and (b) will the other non-romneys drop out of the race in time for it to become a clean “romney v. non-romney” choice. if things fall into place, gingrich can win the nomination, and the timing for a non-romney to gain crucial momentum is better now than it has been in months (i.e., less time for newt to screw it up before he hits a key state — south carolina — where romney likely isn’t that strong).
“He can be a historic president,” Graham adds. “If he has matured as a person and is, for lack of a better word, calmed down, I think he could really motivate the country to do big things.”
lol
^^ That’s pretty gentle, as NRO attacks go. The Tom Coburn quote, calling him a whipped dog who cowered before Clinton, is a nice touch.
for Lindsay to be more insulting would be unladylike
haha, i like this description of rick perry by romney’s chief campaign strategist in today’s hilariously titled NYT mag article, Building a Better Mitt Romney-bot:
to Stevens, Rick Perry brings to mind the townies in the early scenes of “The Deer Hunter” who go loping into Vietnam expecting to kick butt
exactly
is the one on the right Greta in blackface
the one on the right is Greta in mustacheface
that hat looks stupid.
I actually thought GVS was pretty good on CNN through the O.J. trial. That was the first I’d ever seen her; I don’t get Fox News, so I’ve never seen her since. I take it she’s typically awful.
Most cable news personalities I know chiefly through their impressionists on SNL.
I mainly know her from her episode of Space Ghost Coast 2 Coast
this is the definitive Greta
god mitt romney at 46.7% is really, really tempting
I actually did pretty well on intrade last election. I remember it being a pain in the ass to get money on, like you have to send a check or something?
rick perry at 2.1% is also an okay gamble
yeah mitt is value. I wish I had money on there.
yeah I was right the only way you can get money on from the US is by sending a check or a bank wire. fuck it.
I know u guyz love Alex Cockburn:
Not since the robber baron Henry Flagler blazed a path through Florida in the 19th century with his railroad has there been so triumphant a progress through the Sunshine state as Newt’s, fittingly so, since Florida is stuffed with hucksters. Newt a staggering 41 per cent, Romney 17, the sample being 600, questioned by the Florida Times Union....
Like another college lecturer, Barack Obama, Gingrich is a glib fellow. Unlike Perry, he’s got several answers to everything. He can take any side of a question. His past is disreputable in so many egregious ways that it is hard to see how the big Republican donors would want to invest substantial money in his campaign, except perhaps as insurance. His campaign organization is an utter mess. It’s surely a better than even bet that IEDs of scandal await detonation along his campaign trail.
But he’s not Mitt Romney. This year, that’s aooarently a game changer. If Newt goes down, the Republicans will be left with the next in line in the polls – namely Ron Paul. Trouble is, Paul really does have principles, starting with a refusal to endorse torture, assassinations, abuses to the Constitution, including endless wars. That puts him out of the picture.
http://www.counterpunch.org/2011/12/02/suddenly-it%E2%80%99s-newt/
feeling some actual schaudenfreude at the personal fallout of Cain’s campaign tbh
dude thought he would just sell a lot of books/make a lot of $$$/get to be a celebrity instead he gets to be a laughingstock with a ruined marriage
I was thinking about this and I think if ron paul were more rand paul-esque (ie crazy libertarian but still willing to toe the line when it mattered) he absolutely have a shot
he would absolutely*
for some reason many (most?) Republicans have a deep animosity for Ron Paul. I find it really strange. Maybe they just hate all his superfans?
as Cockburn sez: Trouble is, Paul really does have principles, starting with a refusal to endorse torture, assassinations, abuses to the Constitution, including endless wars.
also he’s too weaselly. GOP likes manly men.
GOP’s refusal to embrace ron paul:
he’s too weaselly
he’s too libertarian for their taste (which, when you think about it, suggests that there’s limits to the extremism of the modern GOP, but perhaps has as much to do with what libertarianism means for paul’s view of foreign policy and projection of american military power)
in other news, herman cain has an “announcement about his campaign” tomorrow.
Not since the robber baron Henry Flagler blazed a path through Florida in the 19th century with his railroad has there been so triumphant a progress through the Sunshine state as Newt’s
We love hyperbole!
all the H’s: hucksters, hyperbole, Heat, Hialeah.
I didn’t know anyone north of Broward had heard of Hialeah.
Hell, I had and I’m out here.