yes, hellfire.
JonahNRO RT @EWErickson: RT @JimPethokoukis: Perry’s favorite justice? Frontier Justice, brother!
The baseball writer Bill James actually wrote about Perry today (behind a firewall, else I’d link):
It’s not that he doesn’t know the things the other candidates know; he doesn’t know the things my 18-year-old son knows. Perry speaks of memorizing lists of names of Supreme Court justices—excuse me, Supreme Court judges—as is this was a feat that would test the capacities of Ken Jennings. My son knows not only who the justices are, but roughly how old they are, when they were put onto the court, who appointed them, and what their politics are. You could give Rick Perry a list of nine racehorses and nine Supreme Court justices, and it’s 50/50 whether he would have Harness Breaker as a thoroughbred or a strict constructionist.
He doesn’t just shoot fish in a barrel—it’s quite a good piece.
Actually, lots of people couldn’t name one Supreme Court justice. Lots of people can’t name their congressman.
Meanwhile:
kathrynlopez RT @LibertyGirlUSA: Take another look at @ricksantorum He is the most conservative on the stage. This is who we should be supporting!
but yeah a presidential candidate SHOULD know, etc
BILL JAMES: MAYBE YOUR 18 YEAR OLD SON SHOULD RUN FOR THE REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL NOMINATION
Actually, lots of people couldn’t name one Supreme Court justice. Lots of people can’t name their congressman.
yeah seriously I would guess the % of people who couldn’t name their congressperson and 2 senators approaches 50%
LOLGOP @LOLGOP — Michele Bachmann arm-wrestling Ron Paul would be entertaining
Bill James’ son sounds sinister!
“Covertly or overtly”—at least he didn’t throw in “provertly.”
not even watching but i love the live-tweeting of the debate.
rob delaney @robdelaney — Another TINY problem for the GOP is that Ronald Reagan would have tripped over himself to vote for Obama if he were alive.
what inspired this?
Paul Begala @PaulBegala — Yes, absolutely. Art III Sec. 1 “@zbyronwolf: Hey, @arianedevogue—can Congress and the president really just abolish the 9th circuit?“
huge moment for noot
Two favorable mentions of Canada within a minute—you like us, you really, really like us!
huge moment for noot
wha hoppen?
CAN NEWT REGAIN HIS LOST MOMENTUM
He bombed Iran. It no longer exists.
— no. way. —
well!
do other republican presidential hopefuls have the guts to promise to bomb (bomb bomb, bomb bomb) iran?
One thing seems clear: if debates are happening, Gingrich goes up in the polls. When there are no debates, he sinks. Unfortunately, most of the campaign exists between debates.
Perry: Iran, Afghanistan, Venezuela are firing shots through the US border via Mexican drug cartels
huge moment for noot
wha hoppen?
― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, December 15, 2011 9:30 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink
He did a great monologue about how he sometimes goes too far in his rhetoric and all the moderators laughed like they were on a great first date. Then he did his standard fire breathing shit and got the biggest applause break of the night.
WOW. i honestly figured that the negative advertising blitz meant that newt was finished.
And he got in a mild dig at Romney: “I want to be careful not to sound zany.”
hm. BTW, sure you know that newt’s dropped precipitously in the newest polls.
And then sounded zany.
yes the old right wing media has decided to torpedo him. Let’s see if Fox decides to as well... xp
is it just me, or is anyone else hearing these AIM-style beeps every few minutes during this debate?
yeah seriously I would guess the % of people who couldn’t name their congressperson and 2 senators approaches 50%
luckily for the USA, the number of people who consistently vote in elections approaches 50%
OH MY GOD IT DID IT AGAIN
are they sending signals to my brain???
David Corn @DavidCornDC — Anyone out there think that Romney is meeting his strategic needs tonight?
so?
haha those are the “running out of time” alarms bro xp
i mean, my question is: does romney have strategic needs at this point? i figured that, if newt fell, there wouldn’t be time for another single anti-romney to emerge, so he could just coast.
he has the strategic need for people to actually like him despite being the inevitable candidate at this point
haha those are the “running out of time” alarms bro xp
holy shit it’s the most annoying thing ever
Bachmann’s been after Gingrich all night—is she really hoping that it’ll come down to her and Romney?
god that was a really pathetic moment for her
“I am a serious candidate!”
“i’m a serious candidate. serious. I’M SERIOUS. LOOK AT MEEEEEEE”
we’re talking about bachmann, amirite? sure. she’d believe anything.
Sam Stein @samsteinhp — Bachmann: I personally witnessed Gingrich eating a small baby in the house cafeteria
i think perry just dropped out of the race?
Rick Perry just couldn’t remember something.
“if you don’t get your tail kicked every now and then you’re not playing at a high enough level, thanks guys for letting me play at such a high level. it’s been fun, and now — back to texas.”
why would perry drop out?
HE’S THE TIM TEBOW OF THE GOP
seriously, perry sounds like he’s about to drop out?
If someone were to maliciously ask Perry how many spaces should be placed after a period, would his head explode?
Perry is a huge stan for APA Style
charles krauthammer looks like he skinned a bunch of people and sewed their faces together and then stretched them over his own
look, u can even see the holes and shit where he didn’t do a thorough job
Basically nobody went after Romney tonight. I don’t get it.
so . . . that means romney did well?
Yes. I’m very depressed.
It means they think Mitt’s irrelevant compared to the Newt Juggernaut.
This is like that one golf major last year where the guy from New Zealand with the funny name won; I’ve given up trying to figure out who wins this.
Yes. I’m very depressed.
― clemenza
don’t toy with my emotions! if romney’s on the verge of clinching the nomination, just tell me, and i’ll prepare for the romney/rubio landslide victory over obama/biden.
The dream is over
What can I say?
The dream is over
Yesterday.
— sigh —
Carrie Dann @CarrieNBCNews — Perry campaign NEEDED a debate that didn’t hurt what they perceive as real Iowa retail momentum. Looks like they got it.
hey!
obama must make his move today to ditch biden and bring rubio onto the ticket!! (/panic mode)
NOW YOU’RE THINKIN’.
i find all the rooting for various candidates really tiring so i’ve decided to just start front-running for whoever is leading in the polls and whoever wins the general election i’m going to join his party and then feel really good about how we beat the bad guys. being on the losing team sucks!!!!
@maggiepolitico: Newt, tells Hannity, “Mitt and I have become much closer” during the campaign.
you have to get close, in order to use a knife.
Gingrich/Romney
(not an election ticket)
really psyched for the Obamney general-election travesty now that we’re officially a police state.
HA HA right on brother!
The national-security state has been dominant since before I was born. Becoming a police state was always just a baby step away.
I see the Nikki Haley shoe dropped for Romney, and while Branstad won’t endorse, he’s saying mean things about Newt.
I posted something similar to this last night—I’m not the only one wondering what’s going on there:
http://www.salon.com/2011/12/16/deconstructing_michele_bachmanns_war_on_newt/
i’m guessing Alfred posted this already? but I don’t see it.
http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2011/12/ron-paul-for-the-gop-nomination.html
Sullivan’s fascination with Ron Paul is between curious and O_O
it’s not so curious when you read him go on and on about the bell curve...
I just skimmed some of the worst lines from the Paul newsletters, and I don’t think I want to read them any more closely. (I remember reading/hearing about them during the ’08 cycle.) Disappointing—I’ve come to like him over the course of the debates. Not for all his stuff about the fed—I don’t know enough about monetary policy to know if that’s as crazy as many commentators say it is. I just like his manner, and it is amazing to see a politician who never wavers—never—from his beliefs no matter what the context or who the audience, and who never dodges. Debate moderator asks him a question, he listens, he responds—and even if he knows he’ll get booed, or knows everyone else on the stage will pounce with rehearsed lines that will get the crowd cheering, he says his piece. And he does it every time. I keep waiting for him to hedge as he gets closer and closer to winning Iowa, and he never does. So it’s too bad there’s all this other garbage.
The other night a friend and I shook our heads wondering why this man wasn’t the nominee already. If the Tea Party had principles, then Ron Paul would be the Inevitable One.
Guaranteed to stop the bleeding and rescue Newt’s campaign:
http://www.salon.com/2011/12/16/gingrich_lauded_good_parts_of_obama_health_plan/
Nothing can rescue that poor man now. Pray for his soul.
The concept of Newt’s soul kind of reminds me of this:
Why even worry about that has-been? National lead fading, going nowhere in NH, very possibly down to 3d in Iowa. Worked out perfectly for Pres. Romney.
You’re taking this much better than I am. I’m on maybe the second or third stage of grieving, at best.
I’ve been a fan of Pres. Romney all along.
He’s my favorite Republican technocrat.
I’ve been a fan of Pres. Romney all along.
I remember very well a time when you were all in for Newt...it was last Thursday, I think. I’m cutting a vicious flip-flop attack ad immediately.
Tomorrow morning I roll-out the “Bachmann ’12” buttons.
New slogan: “There’s still a chance.” Catchy.
Des Moines Register unsurprisingly endorses Romney.
Probably time for an RIP thread, but let Kim Jong-il have his day.
http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2011/12/the-gingrich-bubble-pops.html
I love how Cain’s been wiped from chart history there.
it’s kind of amazing how ppl forget every other prez campaign they’ve seen every 4 years.
Herman’s line, below, was removed from the graph.
Quoted from Joe Klein:
Iowa Republicans are not neoconservatives. Ron Paul has gained ground after a debate in which his refusal to join the Iran warhawks was front and center. Indeed, in my travels around the country, I don’t meet many neoconservatives outside of Washington and New York. It’s one thing to just adore Israel, as the evangelical Christians do; it’s another thing entirely to send American kids off to war, yet again, to fight for Israel’s national security.
What is this “again”??? None of Afghanistan, Iraq, and Libya were fought for Israel’s national security.
Name a nomination in the last 30 years or so that resembles the way this one has gone.
The Vietnam and Korean wars were about Israel.
If Romney does take it, it certainly won’t resemble 2008; Giuliani and Hillary were heavy favourites just prior to Iowa. This would be a presumed front-runner reasserting himself after, what, five different people moved ahead of him? I don’t remember anything like that.
I guess it’s just easier to blame AIPAC for all these wars than to blame the American public for getting us into war after war after war for the last fifty years. xp
there isn’t one but there also isn’t a nomination that went anything like obama vs. clinton
pundits like to gain insight from comparing stuff to history but w/ american politics you’re working w/ such a small sample set
xp
I agree. I think you could find nominations that pair up well in—as I always say—broad detail, but every one has different twists and turns. (My knowledge of American politics is pretty much post-war, so that’s the sample set I’m always talking about.)
well there’s even less to garner from comparing things to the pre-war nomination process
tbh I am amazed they aren’t shoehoning in 5 more debates before New Year’s
or shoehorning, even