In terms of me typing an answer, pressing submit, and having it appear in the thread, you’re right, it works, it’s functional. But so did Old ILX and so does Sandbox ILX. What kind of functionality are we supposed to be impressed by?
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I’m stayin here for now too I think
xxpost
it’s completely new code, built entirely differently, the biggest change ilx has undergone since leaving greenspan. this is more about making sure things work as planned rather than impressing us.
Why doesn’t nuILX just look exactly like oldILX?
Wouldn’t that have been the easiest decision as far as design?
milo, pls tell me you’re being sarcastic.
MAKE IT STOP LOOKING BAD.
this is going to be like when protestant churches split in two over half the church wanting to do Power Point-fuelled nu-music and the other half wanting to stick to hymns and hymnals.
Why doesn’t nuILX just look exactly like oldILX?
Wouldn’t that have been the easiest decision as far as design?
— milo (wooderso...), February 21st, 2007. (milo) (later) (link)
milo, pls tell me you’re being sarcastic.
— Ms Misery (missmisery7...), February 21st, 2007. (MsMisery) (later) (link)
What’s sarcastic about that? It’s pretty much what I’ve been wondering throughout this entire thread.
and we’ve been talking about it throughout this entire thread!
you build a house in the jungle and then you build it in the desert why cant it look the same?
This is going to be like when hitler came to power and was like lol i didn’t kill any jews, yr cache is fucked; hit shift reload
this is more about making sure things work as planned rather than impressing us.
So you mean it was unveiled early so that people could get test posts in, make sure things don’t fuck up? I guess that makes sense. I’ll just leave it to you and Ned to make all of them.
our school was so poor we couldn’t afford windows and then i learned to tie my shoelace
http://fixco1.com/greenspan.jpg
why did we leave greenspan?
yes jon, comparing this to the holocaust is and apt metaphor.
i need aspirin.
you build a house in the jungle and then you build it in the desert why cant it look the same?
Seriously!
there were four lights and now there are only three why cant there be four lights again i want my mom
So Jaymc, since the content is the same and the appearance is slightly different, that means the appearance is the breaking point?
But so did Old ILX and so does Sandbox ILX. What kind of functionality are we supposed to be impressed by?
That’s not true. Old ILX was bust to fuck. Before we left Australia, it was poxy fuled almost every day, purely because of the load. The new server bought us some time, but even then within about a month it was hitting the limits and timing out. I raised the limits twice, and it still kept growing. By June, I estimate, it would have been dead in the water again.
Sandbox ILX works because it has virtually no threads.
Both have huge security holes, which drives Jon crazy with temptation.
Appearance: the new stylesheet will slowly move closer to how ILX looks right now, I promise. But using stylesheets lets us have a preference for how you want ILX to look, so people who want old-school work-safe can have that, and someone who wants prettier versions or a version tailored for blackberries/phones can have them too.
i’m curious to know who’s claimed identity: tuomas.
you build a house in the jungle and then you build it in the desert why cant it look the same?
why not? cinderblocks are cinderblocks be they in the jungle or the desert.
old-style signature lines? pretty please?
uh...
xxxxpost—the last consideration shows how ilx has truly arrived!
I briefly considered claiming something masonic but didn’t really want to bring a shitstorm upon nuILX.
yea whats up with that i want my treehouse in the desert maybe if i cry it will come
So Jaymc, since the content is the same and the appearance is slightly different, that means the appearance is the breaking point?
Exactly.
and we’ve been talking about it throughout this entire thread!
All you’ve said is that functionality is more important than presentation. I’m saying we already have a template for presentation — why go to the trouble of creating a new one? Or are functionality and presentation inextricably linked?
no one has answered john’s question yet i’ve noticed.
it will have windows and i can peer out and stick tongue out at tuomas as he looks around and says what is a desert my shoelace is undone
But using stylesheets lets us have a preference for how you want ILX to look, so people who want old-school work-safe can have that, and someone who wants prettier versions or a version tailored for blackberries/phones can have them too.
Okay, that’s kind of cool. Not to get all Tuomas, but I don’t know what a stylesheet is — are you saying Nu-ILX has them and Old-ILX didn’t?
Not to get all Tuomas, but I don’t know what a stylesheet is — are you saying Nu-ILX has them and Old-ILX didn’t?
Yes: old ILX hard-codes what it looks like, so it’s difficult to change. New ILX can have a zillion different appearances. The one that’s there just now is NOT FINAL.
I’m saying we already have a template for presentation — why go to the trouble of creating a new one? Or are functionality and presentation inextricably linked?
close, they are separate. pages in old ilx are built by php, nuilx, by java. they will be rendered differently and the onion-skin layer of presentation isn’t an issue (nor should it really be) at this stage when the code and db elements are getting worked out. also stet has spoke to some of this on the thread on nu board.
So how do you tailor these stylesheets? I have little idea what they are or where they can be found.
lol
seems the easiest way to avoid this entire thing would’ve been to title this thread “The new I LOVE X is up but not ready”
will my firewall situation be resolved when the “front door is open”?
xxxpost, you can’t do it yet.
will my firewall situation be resolved when the “front door is open”?
Front door is open. I’ll look into your troubles.
hey remember when those lipstickandcigarettes people showed up and made fun of ilx for being ugly?? man that seems like a billion years ago. (were they from lipsticketc??) (where’s my rocking chair?)
were they all lol ur bored is teh butt and you go fu we like it this way!
pretty much!
i kind of don’t think they were from ls&c but i remember that happening. suddenly there was a thread with a wierd title and like 3 ppl on it all saying haaaaa look at ur shitty board and we were like plz to lick r nuts k?
Are you thinking of the invasion from Sound Opinions Message Board?
ha does ilx evar do attacks—we should have like a commando team where we use our insulting skills against other boards.
zing war flash golf!!!!
Yes, now that our code is ALL NU and totally secure, it’s finally time to invite hate and haxoring from the whole internets!
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ha does ilx evar do attacks—we should have like a commando team where we use our insulting skills against other boards.
Did you see the “It was a predator in the alien ship” thread?
laurel speaks truth.
The new I LOVE X is ready...for me to poop on!
I wub dat painting.
Kronos cry while eated childerns.
i still cant event get the nu page to show up on my screen.
i am feeling a lot like tuomas right now.
No worky on my cell phone, unfortunately. Don’t know if this has been mentioned on this thread (can’t read more than about 35 replies, and certainly not when people post pictures, internal memory too small), but I can register (can’t select my time zone because there are like eight hundred of them and the page stops at the tenth Argentina one), but when I then try to log in it first warns that my password is being sent to another server and then “invalid web address” and (retry) “page not found”. Will try again tomorrow at work (only have internet on my phone at home at the moment, just moved, won’t have cable until the end of the month). Other than that, everything looks fine!
But using stylesheets lets us have a preference for how you want ILX to look, so people who want old-school work-safe can have that, and someone who wants prettier versions or a version tailored for blackberries/phones can have them too.
OMG does that mean I get to use AVATARS NOWWWW??
Using stylesheets is all well and good, but why not just graft css class names onto the old layout and then let people go wild with sheets
also can’t load the page, and I’m not about to go messing with firewall settings at a freelance job’s computer.
Why not have a style sheet that looks just like old ilx? Or the latest rage: style sheet option buttons so the user can change his own personal experience?
if you live on the East Coast, your time zone can be America/Dawson-Creek
proposal for timezones:
THUNDERDOME
EPCOT CENTER
STONEHENGE
BOHEMIAN GROVE
GROOM LAKE
etc
Why not have a style sheet that looks just like old ilx? Or the latest rage: style sheet option buttons so the user can change his own personal experience?
Both things are the plan. If you want to work on the first one, do so and send it to me!
if you live on the East Coast, your time zone can be America/Dawson-Creek
Are you sure that doesn’t refer to Dawson Creek, British Columbia?
Please open up port 80. Cannot reach the new server from work...
That’s going to take a little bit of time to tie Apache and Tomcat together. I can’t get it done before the weekend, sorry. :(
is that my problem?
use mod_proxy for great justice
How good are you with a mouse? Test yourself here—from the time you start ticking the boxes you have 20 seconds to tick as many as you can. Click restart to clear the boxes and try again. Good luck!
There’s a Dawson Creek road in Hillsboro— i used to have to drive past it daily.
haha dr z luv that guy
I wonder if adam schefter and dr z are pals?
I was going to post this on new ILX but it logged me out again:
i am feeling a lot like tuomas right now.
— Rick Gibralter (goforgrad...), February 21st, 2007 9:48 PM. (grady)
I’m not complaining about the log-out thing though, shit, a local music messageboard I “registered” with 3 days ago has yet to send me my activation code.
I’d still like someone to confirm that the reason why a work-in-progress was unveiled to the public was so that it could be test-driven. Because as it stands, I don’t like the fact that half of ILX is on Nu-ILX and the other half is still on the Sandbox. I wish it had been more like, “Hey guys, test this out for a day or two, let us know what works and what doesn’t, then we’ll figure out how to fix it so that everyone’s happy, and then later we’ll unveil the whole thing as Shiny Nu-ILX.”
jaymc doesn’t like it!
hey what are you guys talking about over there?
hello?
Is there any way to make login not time-out?
I guess there’s no more User Info page either.
Hide images completely hoses images over there :( So its either barrage of pr0n/ILXors, or nothing at all. Sigh oh well.
this is whack
even with the font changed, I find nuILX almost unreadable. Too much space, maybe?
MAYBE
So its either barrage of pr0n/ILXors, or nothing at all.
These options are all win-win!
even with the font changed, I find nuILX almost unreadable. Too much space, maybe?
— milo (wooderso...), February 22nd, 2007 12:06 AM. (milo) (later)
I agree.
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Maybe it’s the lines between each post.
I agree.
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I wonder if adam schefter and dr z are pals?
i didnt do this: http://schefterblogz.blogspot.com/2007/02/little-story-from-fan-mail-bag.html
I’d still like someone to confirm that the reason why a work-in-progress was unveiled to the public was so that it could be test-driven. Because as it stands, I don’t like the fact that half of ILX is on Nu-ILX and the other half is still on the Sandbox. I wish it had been more like, “Hey guys, test this out for a day or two, let us know what works and what doesn’t, then we’ll figure out how to fix it so that everyone’s happy, and then later we’ll unveil the whole thing as Shiny Nu-ILX.”
Because Jon left us no choice? He unilaterally started fucking with the old, busted code (to tell us it was old and busted, apparently). We had to take it down, because it seriously shouldn’t be up if people are going to hack at it, it’s way too vulnerable and I’m not having our sole server get pwnd because of some 1990s-era PHP vulnerability.
At that point, there were two options: a pile of pointless work on the old code to secure it, or a hasty slap on the new code’s ass, which needed stress-testing anyway. (Or leaving ILX down for months again, which I really didn’t want to do.)
When we say it’s “in progress”, that’s a general it-will-be-improved note, not a “we’re actively still adding features right now, tonight”. We need to first make sure the hugely-complicated cache works properly (it seems to be) and then think about where to take it next.
I don’t like the fact that half of ILX is here either. This was never meant to be a permanent site, and it won’t be. I’d be taking it down soon anyway, apart from the very real problem of people who plain can’t get to the new site.
(grady/chicago kevin if you’re still having problems, drop me a line please will you?)
dudes cant we all be cool?
everyone have patience and stop giving stet shit abt how nuilx sux.
stet stop blaming everything on jon.