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why does anyone consider clark a serious candidate? dude shoots self in foot @ every opportunity.

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 20:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Bill "Cold Cash" Jefferson wins runoff election - Louisiana in being tolerant of corrupt pol non-shockah!

― bliss (blass), Sunday, 10 December 2006 16:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Looks like Obama's getting set up to go.

Unfortunately, the experts have spoken, and Jesus would not vote for him. Oh well.

― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Monday, 11 December 2006 20:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't think Armstrong makes much sense here, but generally I haven't found his instincts to be very sound

― dar1a g (dar1a g), Monday, 11 December 2006 20:56 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/adbanners/ad.columnist.Chuck_Norris.125x600.gif

― and what (ooo), Monday, 11 December 2006 21:24 (seventeen years ago) link

why is chuck's eyeline about 15 degrees askew from his jaw?

― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Monday, 11 December 2006 21:26 (seventeen years ago) link

tanned, rested and ready!

― nuneb (nuneb), Monday, 11 December 2006 21:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Too bad there's no one with Kucinich's positions who has all the non-positional things Obama has.

― Dr M (Dr Morbius), Monday, 11 December 2006 21:42 (seventeen years ago) link

good Obama&others stuff here, and especially in the links

― nuneb (nuneb), Monday, 11 December 2006 21:42 (seventeen years ago) link

found this nice little cast photo from the first few seasons:

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/5105/bushsopranospi0.jpg

― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Monday, 11 December 2006 22:07 (seventeen years ago) link

that's a good link gabbneb but I'd say that the comments are even better than the embedded links.

― dandy don weiner (dandy don weiner), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 04:20 (seventeen years ago) link

We need a rolling "LOL OBAMA = terrist!" thread, for stuff like CNN's Jeff Greenfield for broadcasting shit like this:

"...Is there any other major public figure who dresses the way [Obama] does? Why, yes. It is Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who, unlike most of his predecessors, seems to have skipped through enough copies of GQ to find the jacket-and-no-tie look agreeable. And maybe that's not the comparison a possible presidential contender really wants to evoke.

[...]

Now, it is one thing to have a last name that sounds like Osama and a middle name, Hussein, that is probably less than helpful, but an outfit that reminds people of a charter member of the axis of evil, why, this could leave his presidential hopes hanging by a thread. Or is that threads?"

― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 19:09 (seventeen years ago) link

So how 'bout that University of California taser incident, huh? Anybody remember that?

Nobody got fired. People are still talking about Kramer, though.

― Colin M (All names have been taken), Thursday, 14 December 2006 16:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Well Colin maybe if you and I hadn't been such horrible trolls on that thread it would have gotten a sandbox revive

― TOM. BOT. (trm), Thursday, 14 December 2006 16:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I'd be filled with shame if the students standing around and meekly filming had done a god damn bit of difference.

― Colin M (All names have been taken), Thursday, 14 December 2006 16:25 (seventeen years ago) link

it's funny cause ahmadinejad is such a shlub and obama is so slick and cause it's a v common look and also because the trying to make obama seem terroristy is such a pitifully impotent attack.

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Thursday, 14 December 2006 16:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Bye Bayh

― nuneb (nuneb), Saturday, 16 December 2006 16:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't really expect it, but I wouldn't at all be surprised. While I believed Warner was getting out for the reasons he said, I've also wondered since not long thereafter if he thought he was peaking too early and wanted to stay lower-profile for a while (or - and this is at least somewhat in hindsight - to allow Obama to rise without doing so at his own expense).

― nuneb (nuneb), Sunday, 17 December 2006 23:56 (seventeen years ago) link

― nuneb (nuneb), Monday, 18 December 2006 05:10 (seventeen years ago) link

love love love that all the 'neb's fave podpeople are pulling out.

― Dr M (Dr Morbius), Monday, 18 December 2006 14:49 (seventeen years ago) link

what are you talking about, dude? my favorite guy (warner) got out weeks/months ago, and now might get back in. my second favorite guy (obama) is pretty clearly getting in. and my third favorite guy (edwards) is definitely getting in, and not a 'pod person'. but i'm sure they'll all lose in the end to Kucinich/Brodeur, amirite?

― nuneb (nuneb), Monday, 18 December 2006 15:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I wonder if Clark is a pod person.

― nuneb (nuneb), Monday, 18 December 2006 15:45 (seventeen years ago) link

also, if you meant Bayh, apparently you missed my references to the lethality of the boredom he induces

― nuneb (nuneb), Monday, 18 December 2006 15:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I didn't know you thought well of Edwards, my mistake. He's the only potential nominee (well, besides Obama -- can you name 3 non-boilerplate positions he holds, btw?) I haven't blackballed.

― Dr M (Dr Morbius), Monday, 18 December 2006 15:56 (seventeen years ago) link

besides earmark disclosure? not off the top of my head. boilerplate is what wins elections. see, e.g., Bush, George W.

― nuneb (nuneb), Monday, 18 December 2006 16:01 (seventeen years ago) link

like most Dems, he likes single-payer, but favors alternative means to get to universal coverage because he thinks they're more feasible. unlike some Dems, though, he's willing to defend single payer on policy grounds (and supported it in Illinois).

― nuneb (nuneb), Monday, 18 December 2006 16:04 (seventeen years ago) link

also, can you name 3 non-boilerplate positions Edwards holds?

(hint: "poverty is bad" is not a position)

― nuneb (nuneb), Monday, 18 December 2006 16:06 (seventeen years ago) link

boilerplate is what wins elections

soooo inspiring. God, you are an android.

― Dr M (Dr Morbius), Monday, 18 December 2006 16:07 (seventeen years ago) link

you can be inspirational and still hold boilerplate positions. and most voters in America may not be especially interested in the policies that might inspire you.

― nuneb (nuneb), Monday, 18 December 2006 16:09 (seventeen years ago) link

One of the reservations by the hand-wringers is that Obama hasn't promoted some end-all/be-all legislation in his two years of being a low-ranking member of the minority party, but here's a neat bit on the legislation he has done, which tends to be bi-partisian, non-flashy, and important

― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Monday, 18 December 2006 20:42 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, for what little time and seniority he's had, he's rather accomplished. and while ordinarily i might try to suppress my fondness for the legislative end of things in picking a president, he's actually managed the trick of showing leadership qualities in a non-executive position.

― nuneb (nuneb), Monday, 18 December 2006 21:58 (seventeen years ago) link

at this point, i'm happy just to say fuggit and help out with his campaign, at least locally(not that greater Portland will be all that difficult a territory to win over, mind you...)

― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Monday, 18 December 2006 22:01 (seventeen years ago) link

dreamt last night that i was hanging out w/obama and he was an 18 yr/o kid and i was kinda hmmm seems a little raw maybe 2012

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Monday, 18 December 2006 22:16 (seventeen years ago) link

very droll

― nuneb (nuneb), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 14:51 (seventeen years ago) link

key

― nuneb (nuneb), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 15:40 (seventeen years ago) link

gingrich is on such a roll right now: advocating the elimination of the 1st amendment, saying muslims should be arrested for looking like terrorists. i pray he runs.

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 16:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I still think the religious right will come home to Romney when none of their other horses get far from the gate, but if he's losing Wall St to McCain, I guess I have to give up on my belief that he's the guy, even if Wall St /= business Republicans.

― nuneb (nuneb), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 17:22 (seventeen years ago) link

aw, but I thought Sam Brownback had the fundies locked up, and we'd have hijinx on the Bauer/Keyes level of amusement again

― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 17:26 (seventeen years ago) link

if a fucking venture capitalist can't appeal to wall st maybe he just doesn't have the juice.

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 17:31 (seventeen years ago) link

will the media stay in love w/mccain or will they be finally forced to admit that he is not in fact a maverick but just another garden variety conservative hawk ass motherfucker w/the complexion of a well done pork chop?

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 17:35 (seventeen years ago) link

answer

I thought Sam Brownback had the fundies locked up

he might be their favorite, but he isn't going anywhere

― nuneb (nuneb), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 17:37 (seventeen years ago) link

JOSH MARSHALL IS SQUEEZING MY MIND GRAPES

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 17:42 (seventeen years ago) link

tho again, McCain is clearly spooked by Romney, even if this list coming out now ostensibly has more to do with Giuliani's nyc fundraiser today

― nuneb (nuneb), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 17:50 (seventeen years ago) link

why is mccain supporting this big troop re-up? after all his craven compromising, this is the unpopular position he chooses to support? wtf

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 17:56 (seventeen years ago) link

dude is psycho - i don't get him.

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 17:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Way I figured is that he can support a politically unsustainable solution and then point to it later during the campaign with a "see? I was right all along, and had they listened to me and done it the right way, we wouldn't be in this mess."

It's kinda his version of "conservatism never fails; it is only failed."

― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 18:04 (seventeen years ago) link

kingfish OTM, but McCain's screwed anyway. Neither he nor Giuliani has a prayer.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 18:06 (seventeen years ago) link

but so many media types and beltway pundits hang on to their well-paid jobs by mouthing empty-headed platitudes and bullshit narratives that they ain't gunna change anytime soon, so McCain will remain a "maverick", despite his actions & actual voting record of the last 2+ years.

― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 18:19 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah but they're actually going to do the troop double down, no?

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 18:22 (seventeen years ago) link

i mean agreeing w/bush abt anything right now seems incredibly stupid.

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 18:23 (seventeen years ago) link

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