― No Longer EB (King Esteban), Monday, 11 December 2006 14:07 (seventeen years ago) link
Absolute bollocks. Nobody gets branded a troll by admins without first acting like one. You've not earned much genuine respect outside mong/sheep thread BECAUSE of your behaviour - it doesn't work the other way round so stop trying to use that as an excuse.
And trying to blame admins for not giving you enough warning as if they're responsible for your attitude and behaviour is fucking laughable. Grow up.
The vast majority of people on ILX actually seem to manage to express opinions and thoughts without resorting to the shit you've pulled, even if they do feel 'wronged' in some way by someone else every now and then.
We need discussion about the administration on ILX and we need it badly.
I don't think we do because the vast majority of people seem to think that Pashmina is a superb moderator. Only you seem to be disagreeing, mysteriously. So good luck drumming up support for this.
The existing FAQ on real-ILX sets out enough guidelines (it may need a little updating but nothing that radical). It's down to common sense for individuals to realise that behaviour of the sort you've exhibited is probably not a good idea.
ILX was here for a long time before you showed up and on the whole managed just fine without 'elections' for moderators and other idealistic bullshit (fwiw Pashmina would trounce any 'election' anyway so what is the point of the argument?). No reason why that can't continue with or without you.
― sede vacante (blueski), Monday, 11 December 2006 14:18 (seventeen years ago) link
Explain this. Do you really think you shouldn't have been banned for the reasons Matt and Pashmina give upthread?
Free speech < common courtesy and respect to other people. Your right to insult/offend people vs their right not to be offended can only go so far.
If you don't practice the latter you violate your right to the former - certainly on an environment like a specific internet msg board like ILX.
You might as well be complaining to the manager of a bar having been thrown out because you think you should've been allowed to sit there hurling abuse at people as they walked in and out.
― sede vacante (blueski), Monday, 11 December 2006 14:25 (seventeen years ago) link
If he's so popular then why don't you want a democratic election? If there isn't enough admins, then my offer of doing any admin work that needs to be done stands.
The ILX FAQ is a vague document that badly needs updating. At least you can see it need an update. But what is "common sense"? Everyone has a different opinion of "common sense".
I feel the use of the phrase "idealistic bullshit" is pretty insulting and makes you look bad, imho.
Whether you like it or not, I have been part of the ILX community for over a year. The ILX community is bigger than a single poster be it me, Pashmina or yourself. Remember that.
― No Longer EB (King Esteban), Monday, 11 December 2006 14:26 (seventeen years ago) link
1) Calum (notorious troll of yore)2) Phil (notorious troll of modern times)
Think that pretty much covers it but do say if I've missed a third person.
― sede vacante (blueski), Monday, 11 December 2006 14:27 (seventeen years ago) link
― No Longer EB (King Esteban), Monday, 11 December 2006 14:27 (seventeen years ago) link
― No Longer EB (King Esteban), Monday, 11 December 2006 14:28 (seventeen years ago) link
― Fat Lady Wrestler (Modal Fugue), Monday, 11 December 2006 14:29 (seventeen years ago) link
― No Longer EB (King Esteban), Monday, 11 December 2006 14:30 (seventeen years ago) link
― The goose flies at night (Matt DC), Monday, 11 December 2006 14:31 (seventeen years ago) link
― No Longer EB (King Esteban), Monday, 11 December 2006 14:32 (seventeen years ago) link
― Fat Lady Wrestler (Modal Fugue), Monday, 11 December 2006 14:33 (seventeen years ago) link
can you please stop writing stuff like this? i have stomach ache from wtf-laughing
― sede vacante (blueski), Monday, 11 December 2006 14:34 (seventeen years ago) link
I am being totally serious about this. Do your research and you will see that I have been encouraged by an awful lot of posters for too long, which is why I've been in the vicious cycle of insulting people at random for too long.
I'm trying to be serious here.
― No Longer EB (King Esteban), Monday, 11 December 2006 14:36 (seventeen years ago) link
-- No Longer EB (estiebuttez...), Today 2:30 PM. (King Esteban) (later) (admin) (userip)
Do it, please. And talk of this no more.
― stet (stet), Monday, 11 December 2006 14:39 (seventeen years ago) link
How did I miss this.
Funny enough, I think I was on my way to Australia.
― Pleasant Plains, Saturday, 9 June 2007 04:42 (sixteen years ago) link
i'd forgotten about this one. esteban opens his heart!
― jergins, Sunday, 10 June 2007 01:30 (sixteen years ago) link