― GAWD PVNCH (yournullfame), Monday, 4 December 2006 08:27 (seventeen years ago) link
So... this is really happening? I still think it's some kind of board invasion thing, but I haven't found the originating forum yet. (googling a couple of bidder names did lead to a forum the last time something big like this went down, but now, not yet)
― StanM (StanM), Monday, 4 December 2006 12:24 (seventeen years ago) link
― toby (tsg20), Monday, 4 December 2006 12:32 (seventeen years ago) link
"the only one of its kind"
What's the story of that Japanese bootleg, by the way? I know there's a leaked recording out there, with lots of hiss and vinyl crackles, so is that from another copy of this "one of its kind" album?
― StanM (StanM), Monday, 4 December 2006 12:36 (seventeen years ago) link
― StanM (StanM), Monday, 4 December 2006 12:38 (seventeen years ago) link
― StanM (StanM), Monday, 4 December 2006 12:39 (seventeen years ago) link
it just seems weird that they wouldn't even grab the audio from the record first, in a mastering studio or whatever. and THEN sell it. would that be "illegal" maybe? i mean there's nothing stopping the weiner winner from using it as a coaster for his collection of rare german beer steins.
― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Monday, 4 December 2006 12:43 (seventeen years ago) link
although, actually, I don't really care
― akm (akmonday), Monday, 4 December 2006 16:23 (seventeen years ago) link
― Carey (Carey), Monday, 4 December 2006 16:32 (seventeen years ago) link
― Carey (Carey), Monday, 4 December 2006 16:34 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 4 December 2006 16:35 (seventeen years ago) link
― GAWD PVNCH (yournullfame), Monday, 4 December 2006 16:44 (seventeen years ago) link
― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Monday, 4 December 2006 17:00 (seventeen years ago) link
― M Grout (Mark Grout), Monday, 4 December 2006 17:20 (seventeen years ago) link
― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Monday, 4 December 2006 17:22 (seventeen years ago) link
― Johnney B has zeros off the line (stigoftdumpilx), Monday, 4 December 2006 17:42 (seventeen years ago) link
http://tastetastetaste.blogspot.com/
― sleeve (sleeve), Monday, 4 December 2006 18:35 (seventeen years ago) link
What academic use is there for this? Seriously, spending $10 billion on big science pork grants is more useful. The only thing you can learn from a record like this is like "Lou Reed changed something OMG!@!!!" Furthermore, there even fucking exists a bootleg of this!!!
Dude, what kind of argument is this? Oh wait, it's not -- it's just you attacking me for the hell of it.
I'm totally attacking you!!! But you're the one who thinks it is a good idea for some money starved institution in the public interest to waste its money on a meaningless piece of acetate.
Indie rocker, go home.
― jw (ex machina), Monday, 4 December 2006 18:51 (seventeen years ago) link
― StanM (StanM), Monday, 4 December 2006 18:56 (seventeen years ago) link
i wrote my senior thesis on tony conrad, and there was a lot of stuff (obv.) about the velvet underground in it. i got an a, my project advisor said that i did "original and important" work about the fusing of avant-garde art music to that of pop music, and how that changed the culture of each.
― Tyrone Slothrop (Tyrone Slothrop), Monday, 4 December 2006 19:08 (seventeen years ago) link
― Louis Jagger (Scourage), Monday, 4 December 2006 19:15 (seventeen years ago) link
― Nu-Edward III (edward iii), Monday, 4 December 2006 19:17 (seventeen years ago) link
― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Monday, 4 December 2006 19:18 (seventeen years ago) link
not much. for an institution like the warhol museum, though, it'd be about having the physical object as part of the collection, not necessarily for "study."
― Tyrone Slothrop (Tyrone Slothrop), Monday, 4 December 2006 19:19 (seventeen years ago) link
― Mike McG (yetimike), Monday, 4 December 2006 19:34 (seventeen years ago) link
if it were in your hands, would YOU make a copy just for yourself before selling it?
and i'd surmise that the japanese bootleg is from a reel to reel, from a source very close to the original acetate, who only released it after the multiple hoo-hah about the acetate had reached a boiling point, to make a little $. just my guess though.
― Mike McG (yetimike), Monday, 4 December 2006 19:40 (seventeen years ago) link
After establishing the authenticity of Warren's find we photographed the item and made a high quality digital back-up copy of the material.
― milton parker (milton parker), Monday, 4 December 2006 19:49 (seventeen years ago) link
― dan selzer (dan selzer), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:42 (seventeen years ago) link
― Marmot (marmotwolof), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:50 (seventeen years ago) link
― jw (ex machina), Monday, 4 December 2006 21:08 (seventeen years ago) link
― the table is the table (trees), Monday, 4 December 2006 23:01 (seventeen years ago) link
― Marmot (marmotwolof), Monday, 4 December 2006 23:05 (seventeen years ago) link
LOL. Hstencil's thesis is actually worth reading, IMHO.
― ian (orion), Monday, 4 December 2006 23:42 (seventeen years ago) link
Then the boot's probably the same source - there's a skip at 35 seconds into "European Son" just like the auction describes. Interestingly, there is no skip in "Waiting For The Man" (at 00:10), which differs from the eBay desription.
Doesn't sound so bad to me! I could easily write an essay on the many specific differences - the backing vocals in "Femme Fatale" are mixed way higher, for example.
― sleeve (sleeve), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 07:11 (seventeen years ago) link
offtopic but that sound gallery compilation is pretty cool. just in case anyone was wondering.
― GAWD PVNCH (yournullfame), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 07:33 (seventeen years ago) link
― sleeve (sleeve), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 07:41 (seventeen years ago) link
― M Grout (Mark Grout), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 08:30 (seventeen years ago) link
That's not a bad way to put it, actually.
― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 08:36 (seventeen years ago) link
http://tastetastetaste.blogspot.com/2006/12/velvet-underground-1966-4-scepter.html
― StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 08:58 (seventeen years ago) link
― M Grout (Mark Grout), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 09:26 (seventeen years ago) link
― whoop de doodle (kenan), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 09:27 (seventeen years ago) link
― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 11:00 (seventeen years ago) link
What is the most expensive record ever sold? Anyone know offhand? I know those Hank Ballard & The Midnighters 10"s can get up there.
― sleeve (sleeve), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 15:49 (seventeen years ago) link
― M Grout (Mark Grout), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 15:56 (seventeen years ago) link
― Mike McGonig (yetimike), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 18:37 (seventeen years ago) link
some folks on the waxidermy board are definitely fake bidding as well:
http://www.waxidermy.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=5853
― dan selzer (dan selzer), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 20:33 (seventeen years ago) link
http://www.collective-zine.co.uk/cboard/viewtopic.php?id=23670
― dan selzer (dan selzer), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 20:45 (seventeen years ago) link
Only a matter of time before this gets pulled and is done by a real auction house then?
― StanM (StanM), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 00:13 (seventeen years ago) link
Read that waxidermy thread, a lot of record collectors there have posted horror stories about trying to sell vinyl through auction houses, where rare recordings don't even get minimum bids.
― Nu-Edward III (edward iii), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 01:16 (seventeen years ago) link
i thought that too when i heard it. kinda hope this does get cleaned up and released. i'd buy it ;)
― amon (amon), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 01:17 (seventeen years ago) link