Recommend me a career in music

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Great post lib, thanks.

Hurting (A-Ron Hubbard), Sunday, 3 December 2006 03:37 (fourteen years ago) link

Your insight into the American educational system is especially OTM and it's largely what I'm realizing now too - that our university system increasingly markets itself to us as though it's a career placement service and as though there's a degree program for any niche career you could possibly want, and furthermore, we tend to want to believe it's true. Not every career is about a simple, straight path.

Anyway, since my band is planning to go into the studio again anyway soon (at a place I really like), my immediate plan is to start picking the dudes' brains about how they ended up doing what they're doing and what works for them. I'd like to maybe also spend some time hanging out with them when they record another band, or if not there then at some other studio, just to get a better feel for it.

Hurting (A-Ron Hubbard), Sunday, 3 December 2006 03:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Best of luck, HC. Be persistent.

Oddly enough, staying here I saw seven golden bowls make cakes and religion (goo, Sunday, 3 December 2006 16:24 (fourteen years ago) link

Weeping martyr.

Geza T (The GZeus), Monday, 4 December 2006 10:21 (fourteen years ago) link

In reference to?

John Justen wants to hit you in the head with a pipewrench. (John Justen), Monday, 4 December 2006 16:52 (fourteen years ago) link

No idea.

Geza T (The GZeus), Monday, 4 December 2006 18:05 (fourteen years ago) link

I assumed you meant that as a career option. Like being a professional guy who says "The industry is shit now. You can't make a good living doing this anymore. All the _____ companies are filled with bozos who don't know what they're doing," etc.

Hurting (A-Ron Hubbard), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:00 (fourteen years ago) link

G was taking a potshot at me for offering my experience as something to be learned from, in a negative sense.

Oddly enough, staying here I saw seven golden bowls make cakes and religion (goo, Tuesday, 5 December 2006 02:55 (fourteen years ago) link

I didn't even read anything in this thread before posting that.

I'd been awake longer than I wanted too, had too much coffee and spent hours trying to design digital hardware with a minimal knowledge of anything digital....for no reason.

Basically, I'd guess it was suggesting a career option.
However, why I chose that COULD be as Hurting said, it could also be me feeling destroyed and just blurting how I felt in some kind of weird metaphorical spasm for no reason.
Maybe both.

too much

Geza T (The GZeus), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 04:27 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh no. He escaped!

kv_nol (kv_nol), Tuesday, 5 December 2006 15:17 (fourteen years ago) link


Geza T (The GZeus), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 05:13 (fourteen years ago) link

This is my favorite thread ever guys! Thanks.

TOM. BOT. (trm), Thursday, 7 December 2006 16:55 (fourteen years ago) link

This thread says a lot for me too. I've never been in a band (though I've messed about with making recordings at home), never fancied music journalism, never really liked the idea of doing a music course, and never fancied the pay of being a record store clerk. But music is all I've ever really been interested in. Just the other day I realised that (for me, anyway) the answer is.... radio! I'd love to work for a great radio station. Where to start in that though, I've no idea. Volunteering, maybe?

lo lux (davidcarp), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 14:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Be prepared to not make very much money. But yeah, internship is the best bet, and you should try everything from your college or weirdo local community station to big radio, and try sending resumes directly to jocks, producers, etc. even where there's no advertised position, because even though it's a longshot in each case, sometimes ambition impresses people. I know a few folks who got great internships this way.

Hurting (A-Ron Hubbard), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 15:27 (fourteen years ago) link

I've managed to build a side career in music almost completely by accident, mostly just by continuing to sing in better and better ensembles until I suddenly found myself in professional ones that get reviewed internationally for things they do.

Jesus Dan (dan perry), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 15:48 (fourteen years ago) link

I've managed to build a side career in porn in much the same way.

step hen faps (Curt1s Stephens), Thursday, 14 December 2006 01:15 (fourteen years ago) link

Dan, you just reminded me of the time I weirdly ended up with a paying gig singing in an Episcopal church choir. Unfortunately I felt much more uncomfortable than I thought I would bowing in front of the cross and mysteriously "disappearing" during eucharist and couldn't keep doing it.

Hurting (A-Ron Hubbard), Thursday, 14 December 2006 02:02 (fourteen years ago) link

I once thought of getting into xtian music for the money.
However, principles.
I honestly don't know of a way to do that honestly.
If you're SERIOUS, well, a camel's bigger than the eye of a needle.
If you're NOT, the only way I can think of would be to do it ironically(Borating) and for few enough people to catch on. But then that's just preying on the stupid, and I can't do that.

So yeah, know where you're coming from Hurting.

Geza T (The GZeus), Thursday, 14 December 2006 10:46 (fourteen years ago) link

Um, it's not that hard! Professional church musicians are not expected to be members of the church where they are working, much like the office staff aren't expected to be members. Your entire job is to sing and maybe participate in pagentry; you're fascilitating other people's worship, not proving your own.

Jesus Dan (dan perry), Friday, 15 December 2006 17:03 (fourteen years ago) link

Your definition of 'honesty' is different that mine...or the dictionary's for that matter I see. Singing uses words. Words have meaning.

Also I wasn't speaking of what you were doing (again you assume you're the subject at hand) but of what I had considered doing.

Geza T (The GZeus), Saturday, 16 December 2006 02:47 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, I don't see anything wrong with other people doing it - my synagogue choir was mostly non Jews (cause they would work on Sabbath), I just didn't feel comfortable doing it.

Also, Geza, dude do you really think it would have been so easy to make a career as a Christian artist even if you wanted to? You're talking about it like it was a phone call away.

Hurting (A-Ron Hubbard), Saturday, 16 December 2006 03:25 (fourteen years ago) link

Hell of alot easier than otherwise.
All you need is a voice, some instruments, and a sense of melody.
it's 90% crap and the ones that suck less than the sound of dying horses pull like 5k a night in small venues.

Geza T (The GZeus), Saturday, 16 December 2006 05:45 (fourteen years ago) link

Your definition of 'honesty' is different that mine...or the dictionary's for that matter I see. Singing uses words. Words have meaning.

Do you actually have a point here or are you retarded?

Jesus Dan (dan perry), Saturday, 16 December 2006 15:25 (fourteen years ago) link

By saying things one doesn't beleive one is lying.

Geza T (The GZeus), Saturday, 16 December 2006 17:58 (fourteen years ago) link

IMM - Failing to answer your questions through derailment since 2004.

John Justen is interested in eating your pet. (John Justen), Saturday, 16 December 2006 22:09 (fourteen years ago) link

Well the dictionary comment was a bit too far. sorry.

However, if one can stand pretending/buys it, then religious music IS a good career!
Festivals cosntantly, churches MORE than happy to let you play! Stipends from weird rich people!

Yeah. I was tempted.
But that was also a time when neo-gnosticism was big in my mind. It would have been like a Catholic choir boy singing in a Slayer cover band...

Geza T (The GZeus), Saturday, 16 December 2006 23:28 (fourteen years ago) link

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