ILNFL sandbox thread, because you shouldn't pass up a chance to LOL @ the NY Giants

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The thing about the Bears, besides all the obvious things like "Jim McMahon" and "Mike Ditka" and "being the Bears," is that Buddy Ryan is possibly one of the least likeable men who EVER LIVED, like possibly top ten in terms of disagreeableness.

Allyzay P. Boxcars (trm), Monday, 12 February 2007 04:35 (seventeen years ago) link

ha! I didn't realize there were two. something that would make me like Belichick: if Brady got really Favre-esquely erratic and Belicick were forced to choke a bitch. that would rule.

xpost: yeah, Buddy Ryan is scary.

horseshoe (horseshoe), Monday, 12 February 2007 04:37 (seventeen years ago) link

except that his wife has alzheimer's and gary fencik loves him you bastard

m00kiepr00f (m00kiepr00f), Monday, 12 February 2007 04:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh hey speaking of Favre, let's bring sexy back since no one else is here.
http://www.peytonmanning18.com/PeytonManningEsquireSept1997.JPG

Allyzay P. Boxcars (trm), Monday, 12 February 2007 04:39 (seventeen years ago) link

oh goddamnit mookie.

Allyzay P. Boxcars (trm), Monday, 12 February 2007 04:40 (seventeen years ago) link

much as I love Peyton, I never would have bought that there was a side-by-side photo of him and Favre where Peyton looks cuter before seeing that cover. bless you, ILNFL!

horseshoe (horseshoe), Monday, 12 February 2007 04:41 (seventeen years ago) link

I know! That cover stunned me when I first found it, like whoa Peyton where is my wayback machine.

God the NFLN has had the weirdest commercials this weekend, is the other thing. If I see that teddy bear ad again I don't think I'll be able to watch this channel for another month in protest.

Allyzay P. Boxcars (trm), Monday, 12 February 2007 04:42 (seventeen years ago) link

okay, that is really, really sad, about Ryan's wife, but this:

''It's our date,'' said Ryan, 73. ''Sometimes, she recognizes me. Sometimes, she thinks I'm her father, which is O.K., too.''

is just creepy.

horseshoe (horseshoe), Monday, 12 February 2007 04:44 (seventeen years ago) link

8[

more because it just made me remember Oldboy. It is pretty sad.

Allyzay P. Boxcars (trm), Monday, 12 February 2007 04:45 (seventeen years ago) link

George Seifert is a Ministry fan!

Donkey Kong New York (Lee), Monday, 12 February 2007 05:03 (seventeen years ago) link

"DISPLAYING ABSTRACT - Each morning at 5 a.m., Buddy Ryan's day begins in solitude, mucking out the stalls of his horses. He has 17 of them, and three mares in particular are named for milestones in his colorful and sometimes cantankerous lifetime. There's FortySixBlitz, named for the 46 defense that Ryan conjured ...

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AAAGH SOMEONE POST THE WHOLE THING GODDAMN IT

ALSO, b4 ilnfl went down I was going to make an "I Love Bill Curry" thread. there's something about the way he talks that is really captivating.

belichick can have his own kind of retard charm when he goes into raconteur mode. that episode was awesome because of troy brown imo. i was sort of dreading the 2001 pats ep because it's one of those stories you really do not need to hear again but from a dramatic perspective it might've been the best one. tom brady is the evil villain in drew bledsoe's life story. i wanted to hug DB afterwards :'(

fave AG moment (maybe): LT calling parcells a big baby. actually every LT clip was great.

aidsy (aidsy), Monday, 12 February 2007 07:49 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, LT and Parcells are kind of an adorable pair.

ALSO, b4 ilnfl went down I was going to make an "I Love Bill Curry" thread. there's something about the way he talks that is really captivating.

OTM. he has that great accent, but he also seems to be deeply thoughtful and almost pained about everything he says. I dunno, the NFL has become so self-congratulatory about race matters, it was really moving to hear him dissect the sources of his own racism and his discomfort with it. I thought it was a really brave interview. I luv him now.

here's the Ryan article. it's sad:

Each morning at 5 a.m., Buddy Ryan's day begins in solitude, mucking out the stalls of his horses. He has 17 of them, and three mares in particular are named for milestones in his colorful and sometimes cantankerous lifetime.

There's FortySixBlitz, named for the 46 defense that Ryan conjured as a defensive coordinator, and which the 1985 Chicago Bears executed in brutal and brilliant fashion during a championship season. There's FiredForWinning, a reminder of how his head-coaching career with the Philadelphia Eagles came to an end in 1990 despite a 43-38-1 record and three consecutive playoff appearances.

But his favorite is Bayside Girl, named for his wife of 36 years, Joanie. Ryan met her in Queens in 1968, after Weeb Ewbank brought him to the Jets as an assistant. She was a high-strung New Yorker; he was a steel-willed Okie.

When they retired here in 1995, the Ryans embraced the simple life and tried to breed a Kentucky Derby champion. On Sundays, they watched N.F.L games, a league Buddy spent 34 years in, paying special attention to the teams coached by his twin sons, Rex and Rob, the defensive coordinators at Baltimore and Oakland.

Unlike football, life cannot always be neatly schemed. In 2003, Buddy moved Joanie to an assisted-living home after her Alzheimer's disease, diagnosed two years earlier, finally made it impossible for him to care for her alone.

On Sunday, Ryan will watch the Bears play in the Super Bowl for the first time in 21 years, against the Indianapolis Colts, but it will not be the most important thing he will do that day. That will be attending Mass with his wife in the morning, having lunch with her and her favorite priest, and sitting with her for the afternoon.

''It's our date,'' said Ryan, 73. ''Sometimes, she recognizes me. Sometimes, she thinks I'm her father, which is O.K., too.''

When Ryan eventually settles into his recliner at his home on a golf course, he will watch two teams with old friends on each sideline play a game that he loves. He will watch how the Bears' defensive coordinator, Ron Rivera, a backup linebacker when Ryan was Chicago's defensive coordinator, handles the Colts' offense designed by Tom Moore, who coached with Ryan under Bud Grant in Minnesota.

''I miss the camaraderie of the locker room, and the strategy, but I got more than enough to keep me busy,'' Ryan said. ''When I hit the pillow each night, I sleep good. I'm one of those people who need a lot of turmoil in my life so I can stay focused.''

Ryan knows the image of him as a gentleman farmer and caring family man are at odds with the nasty public one assigned to him in the 1980s and 1990s when his Bears and Eagles defenses were smashing through the N.F.L. He acknowledged that he encouraged the latter.

The 46 defense put as many as 10 people on the line of scrimmage and blitzed mercilessly, Ryan said, so ''we could find out who the second-string quarterback was.'' He allegedly offered bounties for injuring quarterbacks and even kickers. His most famous misdeed was captured on national television during the 1993 season, when Ryan was the defensive coordinator for the Houston Oilers. Upset with the offensive play calling of Kevin Gilbride -- now the Giants' offensive coordinator -- Ryan hauled off and slugged his fellow coach.

''I remember thinking two things,'' said Rex Ryan, 44, who was a college assistant watching on television at the time. ''That these heated moments happen more often than you think, and that Dad's reputation for being out of control and Neanderthal was sealed. He'd never get another head-coaching job, and I'd never get a job at all in the N.F.L.''

In 1994, however, Buddy Ryan was named the head coach of the Arizona Cardinals, and he gave Rex and Rob their first N.F.L. jobs, as defensive assistants. Even though they had been ball boys on every N.F.L. team he had coached, Ryan had tried to steer them away from the profession.

When Rex and Rob turned down a management-training program in the food services industry, Buddy checked all three of them into a hotel in southwestern Oklahoma, secured an easel and over two days taught them every nuance of the 46 defense.

''Then I told them to go work their way up the college ranks so they could learn their A B C's of coaching,'' Ryan said.

When Arizona went 8-8 in Buddy's first season, the Ryans looked like geniuses. When they went 4-12 the following year, the whole staff was fired. While Buddy Ryan was out of football for good, his sons were merely beginning their N.F.L. careers.

So Buddy and Joanie moved to the 176-acre farm they had bought in 1976 in nearby Lawrenceburg. When Joanie went into the assisted-living home two years ago, Ryan sold the farm, bought a home here and 80 acres 10 miles away in Bagdad, Ky.

His former players know where he is: They call frequently, and a few have even visited.

''It is remarkable how much they love Buddy,'' said Debbie Ellis, a friend who owns the farm where Ryan boards his horses. ''You see these big, grown men giving him a hug and a kiss on the neck.''

Among them are Gary Fencik, a safety and captain of the 1985 Bears. Ryan still calls Fencik by his number, 45, just as he calls the Hall of Famers Mike Singletary and Dan Hampton by their nicknames, Samurai and Big Rook. It was Fencik who helped write a letter to George Halas, the Bears' owner, on behalf of the defense urging that Ryan be retained when it became clear that Coach Neill Armstrong would be fired after the 1981 season.

''He was tough, and you had to earn his respect,'' Fencik said of Ryan in a telephone interview. ''Once you did, Buddy would do anything for you. He was consistent, too. On Mondays when we watched film, if you had a bad game, you were glad the lights were off. It didn't matter who it was -- he'd rip you.

''His genius as a coach beyond the scheming was that he trusted his players, and he'd give us enough discretion to gamble on things. It gave us ownership in the system and inspired great loyalty.''

Halas was moved enough to make a rare appearance at practice to guarantee that Ryan and his defensive staff would remain in place. He then hired Mike Ditka as the Bears' coach.

Ditka and Ryan were an arranged marriage. They alternately groused and ignored each other, and during the Bears' championship season they nearly came to blows at halftime of a game against Miami -- Chicago's only loss that season. Still, after pasting New England, 46-10, in Super Bowl XX in New Orleans, Ditka and Ryan were hoisted onto the shoulders of their players and carried onto the field.

Ryan grinned mischievously when asked about Ditka.

''I don't talk to him now,'' Ryan said. ''I never talked to him when we coached together.''

Instead, Ryan talks to his former players, or his boys, whenever he wants to remember the joys and pressures of coaching in the N.F.L.

He talks to Joanie Ryan about how the simple life they sought is not always so simple. About how last week, they lost a foal on the same day one of their fillies won a race at Turfway Park. About how hard it is, despite some stakes wins, to breed a Derby champion. About the $10,000 the soybean crop brought in, and how he's now thinking of planting corn.

About how much he misses his Bayside Girl.

''I don't know how much she understands,'' Ryan said, ''but I tell her everything anyway.''

horseshoe (horseshoe), Monday, 12 February 2007 08:08 (seventeen years ago) link

thank you!!! aw man... that is a bummer :[

aidsy (aidsy), Monday, 12 February 2007 08:20 (seventeen years ago) link

defensive co-ordinators at baltimore and oakland is pretty impressive!

Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Monday, 12 February 2007 12:57 (seventeen years ago) link

god I need the NFL network!

The pro bowl entertained me! It was the best thing in its time slot.

clevo lk (clevo lk), Monday, 12 February 2007 14:21 (seventeen years ago) link

everything lk said goes double for me.

otto midnight has a pudding problem (otto midnight), Monday, 12 February 2007 14:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I liked the part where Simms was talking about how Parcells called him over to the sideline and started screaming "YOU! SHUT THE FUCK UP!" before Simms was even anywhere near him.

Allyzay heard you got beat up in a club. (Allyzay Eisenschefter), Monday, 12 February 2007 14:56 (seventeen years ago) link

wade phillips looks like a care bear

jhoshea (jhoshea), Monday, 12 February 2007 18:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I've never seen his stomach, cannot confirm.

Also, it is quite the cause du jour regarding concussions crippling people? SI and ESPN have had several articles on this recently, I am having a hard time buying people are just coming out of the woodwork now since the Patriots thing, considering the players that have died from problems relating to concussions.

Allyzay heard you got beat up in a club. (Allyzay Eisenschefter), Monday, 12 February 2007 18:08 (seventeen years ago) link

wade phillips looks like my grandmother

bohren un der club of gear (bohren un der club of gear), Monday, 12 February 2007 18:10 (seventeen years ago) link

man, I hate Jerry Jones.

horseshoe (horseshoe), Monday, 12 February 2007 18:12 (seventeen years ago) link

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=2758756&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab6pos1

Green Bay Packers
Cap room: $24.1 million
Brett Favre is back for 2007, and it's not out of the question he will play even longer. He had fun last year.

The RealJTMod (Real JT Mod of Team Courage), Monday, 12 February 2007 18:24 (seventeen years ago) link

our brett favre thread, rip :(

Allyzay heard you got beat up in a club. (Allyzay Eisenschefter), Monday, 12 February 2007 18:26 (seventeen years ago) link

I think John Clayton was replaced w/ a random text generator filled w/ football cliches and snippets from press guides.

David RER (Frank Fiore), Monday, 12 February 2007 18:27 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah stupid JW always deleting all the brett favre databases because he thinks kate is a looney bigot!! why is he a jackass all the time

TOMB07 (trm), Monday, 12 February 2007 18:28 (seventeen years ago) link

OK seriously that's enough.

Allyzay heard you got beat up in a club. (Allyzay Eisenschefter), Monday, 12 February 2007 18:28 (seventeen years ago) link

test

bohren un der club of gear (bohren un der club of gear), Monday, 12 February 2007 18:31 (seventeen years ago) link

dammit

bohren un der club of gear (bohren un der club of gear), Monday, 12 February 2007 18:32 (seventeen years ago) link

test

bohren un der club of gear (bohren un der club of gear), Monday, 12 February 2007 18:32 (seventeen years ago) link

dammit

bohren un der club of gear (bohren un der club of gear), Monday, 12 February 2007 18:32 (seventeen years ago) link

what r u doin

Allyzay heard you got beat up in a club. (Allyzay Eisenschefter), Monday, 12 February 2007 18:36 (seventeen years ago) link

i was trying to embed a background image: shockeyshocked.gif

bohren un der club of gear (bohren un der club of gear), Monday, 12 February 2007 18:40 (seventeen years ago) link

I think he's playing a Brett Favre simulator.

[xpost]

David RER (Frank Fiore), Monday, 12 February 2007 18:43 (seventeen years ago) link

ha

jhoshea (jhoshea), Monday, 12 February 2007 18:49 (seventeen years ago) link

dudes you cannot do anything like that on this board I don't think :(

Allyzay heard you got beat up in a club. (Allyzay Eisenschefter), Monday, 12 February 2007 18:50 (seventeen years ago) link

i guess not : /

i thought it might be possible because of the aja/dante'd 'ask jw' thread on the noisebox

bohren un der club of gear (bohren un der club of gear), Monday, 12 February 2007 18:51 (seventeen years ago) link

i think subboards allow it but they have it disabled here? perhaps jon to thread?

Allyzay heard you got beat up in a club. (Allyzay Eisenschefter), Monday, 12 February 2007 18:52 (seventeen years ago) link

hmmm no that didn't work either

Allyzay heard you got beat up in a club. (Allyzay Eisenschefter), Monday, 12 February 2007 18:58 (seventeen years ago) link

ok maybe this

bohren un der club of gear (bohren un der club of gear), Monday, 12 February 2007 19:26 (seventeen years ago) link

dammit

bohren un der club of gear (bohren un der club of gear), Monday, 12 February 2007 19:26 (seventeen years ago) link

DAMN YOU SHOCKEY, STOP BEING DIFFICULT

Allyzay heard you got beat up in a club. (Allyzay Eisenschefter), Monday, 12 February 2007 19:28 (seventeen years ago) link

http://scoopsnoodle.com/adam_schefter/adam_schefter.html
^^^ always remember to post this website

Allyzay heard you got beat up in a club. (Allyzay Eisenschefter), Monday, 12 February 2007 19:40 (seventeen years ago) link

ok let me try this

bohren un der club of gear (bohren un der club of gear), Monday, 12 February 2007 19:40 (seventeen years ago) link

dammit!

bohren un der club of gear (bohren un der club of gear), Monday, 12 February 2007 19:40 (seventeen years ago) link

OH NOES I FORGOTS THE PASSWORD TO SCHEFTERBLOG ACK

Allyzay heard you got beat up in a club. (Allyzay Eisenschefter), Monday, 12 February 2007 19:43 (seventeen years ago) link

fyi schefterpage is now on the #3 page on google :D

Allyzay heard you got beat up in a club. (Allyzay Eisenschefter), Monday, 12 February 2007 19:57 (seventeen years ago) link


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