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is anyone seeing claude vonstroke tonight?

― Dominique (dleone), Friday, 16 February 2007 23:59 (seventeen years ago) link

where at? he blew Switch off the stage last night, imo.

― mikebee (bizzle), Saturday, 17 February 2007 00:31 (seventeen years ago) link

sad that i missed switch. switch is crazy good.

― vahid (vahid), Saturday, 17 February 2007 00:39 (seventeen years ago) link

4) techno seems to appeal most to people who live in places which would make any sane person want to commit suicide (detroit, post-industrial europe, shibuya, berlin, windsor, chile) ... isn't this a strike AGAINST techno? is the best we can say about techno that it is only marginally better than suicide?

― vahid (vahid), Saturday, 17 February 2007 00:53 (seventeen years ago) link

i take it you havent been to berlin? (or barcelona, for that matter?)

― Schal Atznavour (fxzxffx), Saturday, 17 February 2007 00:56 (seventeen years ago) link

chile looks nice

your point would apply to punk, hip-hop and most other actual genres tho surely

― resumo impetus (blueski), Saturday, 17 February 2007 00:57 (seventeen years ago) link

there still aren't enough high-profile/successful women making it

― resumo impetus (blueski), Saturday, 17 February 2007 00:58 (seventeen years ago) link

yes those genres suck too

― vahid (vahid), Saturday, 17 February 2007 01:01 (seventeen years ago) link

places which would make any sane person want to commit suicide (detroit, ~~post-industrial~~ europe, shibuya, windsor, chile)

― vahid (vahid), Saturday, 17 February 2007 01:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Chile is really nice.

― jim (jim), Saturday, 17 February 2007 01:03 (seventeen years ago) link

vahid = troll

― Schal Atznavour (fxzxffx), Saturday, 17 February 2007 01:03 (seventeen years ago) link

they drink coke mixed w/ piscola = thinly disguised cry for help

― vahid (vahid), Saturday, 17 February 2007 01:04 (seventeen years ago) link

see that man upthread in the green t-shirt?!? he is the VERY BEST his nation has to offer (excepting pinochet)

― vahid (vahid), Saturday, 17 February 2007 01:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Piscola is a cry for help in itself.

― jim (jim), Saturday, 17 February 2007 01:05 (seventeen years ago) link

WARM coke + piscola, at that

― vahid (vahid), Saturday, 17 February 2007 01:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Best Chile has to offer:

http://www.nndb.com/people/794/000045659/araya-crop.jpg

― jim (jim), Saturday, 17 February 2007 01:06 (seventeen years ago) link

chile's finest

http://www.higher-frequency.com/e_party_report/june05/03unit/big01.jpg

― vahid (vahid), Saturday, 17 February 2007 01:11 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm super-enamored with Switch but the show last night was terrible. problems with the sound and his laptop at the beginning resulting in 5 minutes of silence (right after Claude VonStroke had built the crowd up into a frenzy ready for anything) then proceeded to play way too banging, lost the crowd (literally -- half the room left) and never got his vibe back. he also kept doing this cd-skipping effect that wasn't complimentary to the groove -- it would start and build and then go on way too long and then just stop. there would be a break, and then the next track would start. either he was doing it to cover for a laptop problem or he's just a terrible DJ.

― mikebee (bizzle), Saturday, 17 February 2007 01:14 (seventeen years ago) link

well, nutty breakdowns are his thing, right? hard to say from your description what was going on though.

― vahid (vahid), Saturday, 17 February 2007 01:16 (seventeen years ago) link

same shit happened to gamall too!! what's going on with that system?!?

― vahid (vahid), Saturday, 17 February 2007 01:17 (seventeen years ago) link

i will say that as much as i like the dubsided sound, even a half-hour of that style is really a bit too much to take ... i haven't been able to get into rose's "get physical" mix at all, what sounds amazing tearing out a straight 4/4 mix sounds pointless in big chunks.

― vahid (vahid), Saturday, 17 February 2007 01:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Chile isn't all bad...
http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/1041/a843361163915541xt9.jpg

― da mystery of sandboxin' (fandango), Saturday, 17 February 2007 01:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Ah, Dinky. Be still my minimal heart.

― jim (jim), Saturday, 17 February 2007 01:24 (seventeen years ago) link

internet disease is pretty unsexy

― vahid (vahid), Saturday, 17 February 2007 01:26 (seventeen years ago) link

it's like on ebay when people take photos of obviously beat-to-fuck jeans from crazily foreshortened angles with a cameraphone ... WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO HIDE

― vahid (vahid), Saturday, 17 February 2007 01:26 (seventeen years ago) link

see also: dressing in karl lagerfeld drag on your album covers

― vahid (vahid), Saturday, 17 February 2007 01:27 (seventeen years ago) link

They're called "myspace angles" round my way.

― jim (jim), Saturday, 17 February 2007 01:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Berlin is a fine city. And Chile is beautiful.

And you live in California, v. I'd certainly rather live in Santiago or Berlin before Cali-fucking-fornia.

― the table is the table (trees), Saturday, 17 February 2007 02:59 (seventeen years ago) link

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yeah, i'm not describing it well enough. nutty breakdowns are one thing but this was fucking obnoxious. can anyone further elaborate on that? he just kept doing it over and over and over again. my decision to leave was based on hearing him transition this way for the 3rd or 4th time.

and i don't know what's going on with the mezzanine soundsystem, but i think that Switch's problems had more to do with this laptop (and arriving late for the gig - he went on at 12.45 for a 12.00 set) than with the system. Gamall's problem was not a laptop issue, it was a power issue (blown fuse).

― mikebee (bizzle), Saturday, 17 February 2007 04:02 (seventeen years ago) link

this thread has been completely derailed. what was it about again?

― mikebee (bizzle), Saturday, 17 February 2007 04:03 (seventeen years ago) link

5. actually, martin schopf is the best that chile has to offer

― friday on the porch (lfam), Saturday, 17 February 2007 04:42 (seventeen years ago) link

wow people think that chile, berlin and barcelona suck??? these are some beautiful places. perhaps almost as good as norwalk, san diego and ranco cucamonga!

― lexpretend (lexpretend), Saturday, 17 February 2007 08:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Though if you're schtick is anti-hipsterism i could see that foreign cities that young people gravitate to then i suppose you would probably prefer San Jose

― lexpretend (lexpretend), Saturday, 17 February 2007 08:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Might help if i typed that right. What i mean is if you don't like foreign cities that hipsters might want to live in, then San Jose is obviously going to be more your bag

And there's nothing wrong with that! To each their own!

― lexpretend (lexpretend), Saturday, 17 February 2007 08:53 (seventeen years ago) link

YOU ARE NOT VERY SMART, HUH?!?

― vahid (vahid), Saturday, 17 February 2007 08:56 (seventeen years ago) link

YOU SEEM TO LACK "NEGATIVE CAPABILITY"

― vahid (vahid), Saturday, 17 February 2007 08:59 (seventeen years ago) link

or perhaps you are responding to my ironical statements with meta-irony by interpreting them as earnest?

also, you seem to know little about california, i would gladly take norwalk, san jose or rancho cucamonga over paris, rome, london ... yes, even stockholm, i would take norwalk over stockholm.

― vahid (vahid), Saturday, 17 February 2007 09:07 (seventeen years ago) link

also i will wager that paris hilton was molded more by the experience of high school in rural california than she was by anything that happened to her in manhattan, which is no doubt why you find her so compelling, lex.

― vahid (vahid), Saturday, 17 February 2007 09:10 (seventeen years ago) link

you mock the provinces, yet you covet our wide-eyed naivete.

HOW DELICIOUS

― vahid (vahid), Saturday, 17 February 2007 09:10 (seventeen years ago) link

My apologies. You are right, i don't know a huge amount about California. I had thought that San Jose was a large city, I did not know it was in the provinces. Maybe i shouldn't have compared cities I know with ones i don't. That is correct

I would like to know more about it tough all the same. Tell me more about how you found Stockholm, London and Santiago though Vahid. I would find it interesting to hear your take on these cities and what you liked about them and what you didn't. It will be interesting to hear from someone that compare these wonderful places properly:)

― lexpretend (lexpretend), Saturday, 17 February 2007 09:27 (seventeen years ago) link

they don't reall drink in stockholm but there's clearly some magical pixiedust in the water

― resumo impetus (blueski), Saturday, 17 February 2007 10:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Lex, I wouldn't take things Vahid says on this thread seriously (a slap on the wrist to anyone who quotes this and strikesthru the this thread!).

― jim (jim), Saturday, 17 February 2007 11:22 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm not exactly pro-'hipster' myself. if you were to ask me where in the US i'd rather be, california would be up there.

― the table is the table (trees), Saturday, 17 February 2007 16:27 (seventeen years ago) link

NORTH AMERICAN SCUH-UM

― W i l l (common_person), Saturday, 17 February 2007 16:37 (seventeen years ago) link

HOW DELICIOUS

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Saturday, 17 February 2007 20:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Vahid must have spent a lot of time in those cities if he is still writing down his thoughts on them

― lexpretend (lexpretend), Sunday, 18 February 2007 14:35 (seventeen years ago) link

W i l l = Einar
Michael F Gill = Björk

― da mystery of sandboxin' (fandango), Sunday, 18 February 2007 17:20 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't actually really care about cities, and i think the city-centric impulse in music criticism ("this is the sound of ...") pretty lame n general, and even worse in dance music. that's all i was getting at.

― moonship journey to baja (vahid), Sunday, 18 February 2007 20:57 (seventeen years ago) link

agree in theory, but it's hard to not use geographical terms at times.

― the table is the table (trees), Monday, 19 February 2007 04:19 (seventeen years ago) link

so carl craig ended up being good? i left 30 mins into his set. mezzanine is terrible.

― josh (josh.), Monday, 19 February 2007 04:29 (seventeen years ago) link

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