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Water G Wiz Changes his username regularly already (The GZeus), Friday, 16 February 2007 03:50 (seventeen years ago) link

What, have you turned into g.g. cummings?

John Justen has already killfiled your sorry ass neener neener (John Justen), Friday, 16 February 2007 05:57 (seventeen years ago) link

GARFIELDDATE.JPG SO FUCKING AWESOME THAT MY HEART HURTS.

John Justen has already killfiled your sorry ass neener neener (John Justen), Friday, 16 February 2007 06:07 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YCOIgwhy_U
ALL MUST SEE ALL OF THIS.

Water G Wiz Changes his username regularly already (The GZeus), Friday, 16 February 2007 06:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Does John mean e. e. cummings? Or is that some kind of weird joke?

I'm taking a take-home test and OVERTHINKING IT.

Sara Robinson-Coolidge (Sara R-C), Friday, 16 February 2007 13:46 (seventeen years ago) link

I've always liked this poem by e. e. cummings:

dive for dreams

dive for dreams
or a slogan may topple you
(trees are their roots
and wind is wind)
trust your heart
if the seas catch fire
(and live by love
though the stars walk backward)
honour the past
but welcome the future
(and dance your death
away at the wedding)
never mind a world
with its villains or heroes
(for good likes girls
and tomorrow and the earth)
in spite of everything
which breathes and moves, since Doom
(with white longest hands
neating each crease)
will smooth entirely our minds
-before leaving my room
i turn, and (stooping
through the morning) kiss
this pillow, dear
where our heads lived and were.

Sara Robinson-Coolidge (Sara R-C), Friday, 16 February 2007 14:09 (seventeen years ago) link

g g allen + e e cummings = g g cummings

After two days in hospital I took a turn for the nurse. (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rain, Friday, 16 February 2007 15:08 (seventeen years ago) link

If I was drunk I'd love the poem.
I don't like poetry.

Water G Wiz Changes his username regularly already (The GZeus), Friday, 16 February 2007 15:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Well, as long as you would like it if you were drunk...

Sara Robinson-Coolidge (Sara R-C), Friday, 16 February 2007 16:04 (seventeen years ago) link

I like gibberish, and I like plain prose literature, but anything in between tends to annoy me.
Thus after I'm done with Wuthering Heights I'm re-reading William S Burroughs' 'Exterminator!' because it's one of my favorite books ever.
It's somehow gibberish AND prose without being in that limbo of normal poetry.

Moisture G Mess (The GZeus), Friday, 16 February 2007 16:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Whisky breath 
and painted;
women
bring me to my.
senses.
Prostitutes
and loaded;
guns
'cause trouble is my.
business.

After two days in hospital I took a turn for the nurse. (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rain, Friday, 16 February 2007 16:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Out of curiosity G, do you ever get annoyed when you read back your own posts?

Jesus Dan (dan perry), Friday, 16 February 2007 16:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I have plenty of poems from the college era that could be considered gibberish. I won't post any, though, because I don't want to get arrested.

Sara Robinson-Coolidge (Sara R-C), Friday, 16 February 2007 16:23 (seventeen years ago) link

That's just laziness because I don't want to blather even MORE in order to fill in the paragraph that single line would have become/was.
/XP

Sara, I bring you, Kate Bush lyrics that would be problematic in todays world:
The Infant Kiss lyrics by KATE BUSH

I say good night-night.
I tuck him in tight.
But things are not right.

What is this? An infant kiss
That sends my body tingling?

I've never fallen for
A little boy before.
No control.

Just a kid and just at school.
Back home they'd call me dirty.
His little hand is on my heart.
He's got me where it hurts me.
Knock, knock. Who's there in this baby?
You know how to work me.

All my barriers are going.
It's starting to show.
Let go. Let go.
Let go. Let go. Let go.

I cannot sit and let
Something happen I'll regret.
Ooh, he scares me!

There's a man behind those eyes.
I catch him when I'm bending.

Ooh, how he frightens me
When they whisper privately.

(Poor, stupid girl!)

Windy-wailey blows me.

Words of caress on their lips
That speak of adult love.
I want to smack but I hold back.
I only want to touch.
But I must stay and find a way
To stop before it gets too much!

All my barriers are going.
It's starting to show.
Let go. Let go.

(Don't let go)

Let go. Let go. Let go.

Moisture G Mess (The GZeus), Friday, 16 February 2007 16:25 (seventeen years ago) link

I have no clear idea of what we are talking about!!!

After two days in hospital I took a turn for the nurse. (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rain, Friday, 16 February 2007 16:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh God, college poetry.

There's only so much morose self-loathing I wrote back then that I can reread without cringing mightily. The one about how my parents hated me (ha, "the one") was particularly cringeworthy; J031 actually burst into tears when she read it (she claims she was moved but I know it was because it was really fucking awful).

Jesus Dan (dan perry), Friday, 16 February 2007 16:27 (seventeen years ago) link

The fact that you ever did frightens me, ehfhe

Moisture G Mess (The GZeus), Friday, 16 February 2007 16:28 (seventeen years ago) link

college poetry>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>high school poetry

Some 9th grade classics of mine: "bloody cheerios" and "dead girls on roller-skates"

After two days in hospital I took a turn for the nurse. (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rain, Friday, 16 February 2007 16:31 (seventeen years ago) link

My friend M4i4 read several of mine before pronouncing me "gloriously f-ed up." Mine are all still bound in the same two black binders, in their original notebooks (BITCH BOOKS). No one gets to look at them anymore, which is kind of too bad, because the notebooks themselves have all kinds of other goofy stuff in them.

(I just looked the other day because I remembered a list I made of my favorite songs about chemistry when I took orgo. "Losing My Electrons" by R.E.M., for example. I had a list of 10 songs that I'd changed the titles to like that. "Head Like a Halide" - NIN. Etc. GOOFINESS!)

I liked your poems, Dan!

Sara Robinson-Coolidge (Sara R-C), Friday, 16 February 2007 16:32 (seventeen years ago) link

"bloody cheerios?!"

I love that one already.

Sara Robinson-Coolidge (Sara R-C), Friday, 16 February 2007 16:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, I like the Kate Bush lyrics, too!

Sara Robinson-Coolidge (Sara R-C), Friday, 16 February 2007 16:35 (seventeen years ago) link

That particular one about my parents is awful, though, mostly because I know it would cause an enormous unecessary FITE if they ever read it. I don't think "HI DERE I WAS 18 AND SELF-ABSORBED" is a good enough excuse for "my parents wish I'd died instead of my brother".

Jesus Dan (dan perry), Friday, 16 February 2007 16:35 (seventeen years ago) link

factoid to those who once inhabited/experienced Feronia:
The porn folder on the harddrive left to John which was accessed by someone(I believe their name was Tim?) was entitled Anal Justice.
It's in fact the title of that story, it's not exactly ddescriptive of it, but the fact that it retains that title is indicitive of its level of sanity.

I won't describe it to you, because...It's not really possible, and the title alone should be enough to make you wonder about the humanoid named Tim(?).
Granted, it was on MY harddrive, but we all know I'm insane.

Moisture G Mess (The GZeus), Friday, 16 February 2007 16:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Yikes, GZeus. Insane!

Dan - so don't let them read it. A. and I both still talk about how we are not either of our parents' favorites; the weird part is that we are both the favorite in-laws (not much doubt in my mind there). And any person who had a sibling die would think that EXACT SAME THING. No reason to fight about it unless you yourself have no memory at all of being 18. (Admittedly, plenty of adults seem to not remember that, but you know what I'm saying.)

Sara Robinson-Coolidge (Sara R-C), Friday, 16 February 2007 16:40 (seventeen years ago) link

My dad found a poem I wrote (@16?) about him and asked me about it. It was very uncomfortable.

Fortunately or unfortunately, most of my freshman year poems are no longer extant.

After two days in hospital I took a turn for the nurse. (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rain, Friday, 16 February 2007 16:43 (seventeen years ago) link

FB - after reading my journal once when I was in 9th grade (and me getting into trouble for the contents), I don't think my Mom ever deliberately read anything I wrote down. (Don't know if it was because she was afraid of what she's find out or if she was afraid I'd get even angrier at her about looking at stuff clearly labeled "private.") Are you going to tell us what the poem was about?

(xpost to myself) I kind of want to modify that to "any person who had a sibling die when they were kids," but I'm still self-absorbed enough to think that if H. really turns out to be ill that I would still have those thoughts.

Possibly this has to do, though, with what happened when I broke my arm while pregnant. I started writing out what happened, but I don't want to get into it online. Suffice it to say that, while I'm sure my parents were very busy and all, it was pretty hurtful.

Sara Robinson-Coolidge (Sara R-C), Friday, 16 February 2007 16:48 (seventeen years ago) link

My friend once was trying to memorize the lyrics to a Nine Inch Nails song, so he ended up writing them on some mathhomework incidentally.
There was no convincing the school counselor he wasn't suicidal.

Moisture G Mess (The GZeus), Friday, 16 February 2007 17:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I think I've written two poems in my life. Both thankfully lost/burned.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 16 February 2007 17:29 (seventeen years ago) link

lol about the NIN song lyrics

Ned - no teenage poetry-writing habit? That's just wrong!

Sara Robinson-Coolidge (Sara R-C), Friday, 16 February 2007 17:47 (seventeen years ago) link

I wrote one poem that could truly be called an effort.
I think I ATE it the next day. I wanted it to NOT EXIST.

I still remember lines. *shudder*

The rest of my 'poems' are either intentional tongue in cheek lyrics or stream of consiousness burroughs tribute things.

Moisture G Mess (The GZeus), Friday, 16 February 2007 18:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Ned - no teenage poetry-writing habit? That's just wrong!

Hey, I can't help it if you were all the spooky teenage poets. I was busy writing reviews for Tolkien fanzines (quel surprise).

Most of the time I spent reading rather than writing, aside from class assignments and all that. I didn't start writing-as-such until senior year of UCLA when I was an irregular columnist for the Daily Bruin.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 16 February 2007 18:14 (seventeen years ago) link

I was busy writing reviews for Tolkien fanzines (quel surprise).

Oh well, that explains everything.

Sara Robinson-Coolidge (Sara R-C), Friday, 16 February 2007 18:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Good lord have I written a lot of poems. Good lord are some of them bad.

John Justen wheedly wheedly whee chugga chugga whee dunt dunt dunt (John Justen), Friday, 16 February 2007 18:19 (seventeen years ago) link

But some of them are good, so it all evens out in your case.

Sara Robinson-Coolidge (Sara R-C), Friday, 16 February 2007 18:20 (seventeen years ago) link

"Losing My Electrons" & "Head Like a Halide"

Sara, I love these. Please post more of your song titles.

John has also written some great poems. Dude, I hope you haven't lost them.

After two days in hospital I took a turn for the nurse. (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rain, Friday, 16 February 2007 18:26 (seventeen years ago) link

With modern literary perspectives(I..don't use them, so I do need to ask) how does one determine if a poem is good, if the meaning is determined by the readers?
I mean, somethng the author, or even one reader to the next, likes could be something the next hates, all based on personal interperetation...

This is why I don't like poetry. I have no idea what it means unless it's explained or it's explicit.

Also if you think about it modern literary theory is about 50 years old. Literature and poetry are thousands of years old.
I'm old-fashioned. Maybe that means I'm 'excentric' instead of 'insane.'
I have numerous problems with 'the new criticism' or whatever, but that's gonna be a blog. I'll post it next year. I'll start writing it next week.

Moisture G Mess (The GZeus), Friday, 16 February 2007 18:35 (seventeen years ago) link

FB, I will look up more song titles after lunch. (I looked in the notebooks because in studying for physiology I literally made the same joke - "Losing my Electrons" - to myself. SAD!)

I have a few of John's poems and a few of Dan's poems, each in ther own individual folders. I CLEARLY remember being on the staff of Revery and having John turn in 2 or 3 entire notebooks every year, though.

GZeus, I can only hope you wouldn't understand some of the poems I wrote. Seriously.

Sara Robinson-Coolidge (Sara R-C), Friday, 16 February 2007 18:41 (seventeen years ago) link

GZeus, like/dislike can't constructively be used in any general measure of good/not good.

John Justen wheedly wheedly whee chugga chugga whee dunt dunt dunt (John Justen), Friday, 16 February 2007 18:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Of course, if we get into a discussion of aesthetic theory, you'll all end up killfiling me. I'll probably end up killfiling myself, actually.

John Justen wheedly wheedly whee chugga chugga whee dunt dunt dunt (John Justen), Friday, 16 February 2007 18:54 (seventeen years ago) link

What is then becomes the problem. And I do mean like, not enjoy.
Without measurable meaning or likability being factors, what's left? It's a string of shapes with a history and cultural significance, but the latter can't be a factor, as that leads toward contextual evidence...
This is why I dislike these kinds of ideas. They lead towards convolutions, cyclical arguments, and overcomplications. It reminds me of moral relavivism.
But again, this is stuff for that blog.

Moisture G Mess (The GZeus), Friday, 16 February 2007 19:01 (seventeen years ago) link

I'd be interested, John, but I suspect that you are heeding the better angels of your nature or whatever that phrase is.

After two days in hospital I took a turn for the nurse. (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rain, Friday, 16 February 2007 19:10 (seventeen years ago) link

FB is always up for discussions that might lead to DEATH.

Sara Robinson-Coolidge (Sara R-C), Friday, 16 February 2007 19:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Okay, so October 1991. Clearly I was trying to avoid my organic chem studying:

Top 10 Fave Chem Songs

10. Depeche Mode - Products Are Products
9. Erasure - Chains of Carbon
8. The Cure - Stereochemistry Street
7. Mudhoney - Let it React
6. Robyn Hitchcock - So You Think You Made Gold
5. Nirvana - Smells Like Acetesalicylic Acid*
4. Depeche Mode - A Question of Lead
3. Concrete Blonde - Everybody Reacts
2. Nine Inch Nails - Head Like a Halide
1. R.E.M. - Losing My Electrons

*acetysalicylic acid is aspirin; here I was also making a joke to myself about the first hour (9th grade) "practical chemistry" lab that Mr. Gr0ssm4n hadn't tested where we were supposed to synthesize this chemical. It smelled SO strong and SO bad that people had to leave the room. The class periods after us didn't have to do the experiment.

Sara Robinson-Coolidge (Sara R-C), Friday, 16 February 2007 19:25 (seventeen years ago) link

lol at stereochemistry street

After two days in hospital I took a turn for the nurse. (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rain, Friday, 16 February 2007 19:32 (seventeen years ago) link

wheedly wheedly whee chugga chugga whee dunt dunt dunt

This seems like a variation of my wheedliewheedliewheedliewheedlieweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeechunk-a-chunk

After two days in hospital I took a turn for the nurse. (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rain, Friday, 16 February 2007 19:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Apparently I was seriously bored during that era; I have followed that list with lists of my favorite and least favorite chemicals.

I don't know what I had against tert-butyl alcohol, for example, but on the favorites list I have caffeine (C8H10N402) and NaCH (Sodium cyanide).

Sara Robinson-Coolidge (Sara R-C), Friday, 16 February 2007 19:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I hate all carbohydrates. Fuck a organic chemistry.

After two days in hospital I took a turn for the nurse. (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rain, Friday, 16 February 2007 19:43 (seventeen years ago) link

No.

Jesus Dan (dan perry), Friday, 16 February 2007 19:45 (seventeen years ago) link

IT BURNS

After two days in hospital I took a turn for the nurse. (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rain, Friday, 16 February 2007 19:46 (seventeen years ago) link

I can't hate on the carbs. Bread! Chocolate! SUGAR! (Plus, carbon is the basis of all living things, so it's hard to hate it totally. Still, why were you at GAC when I was taking that class? Probably a good thing; I might really have burned my orgo book if you had been around to encourage such a thing.)

Sara Robinson-Coolidge (Sara R-C), Friday, 16 February 2007 19:47 (seventeen years ago) link


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