let's talk about tv shows itt

Boss has its moments (i've only seen the first few episodes though)

oh shit i forgot Boss was on Starz yeah i wasn't hugely into it but it's obv good

could be good but trailer makes it look a lot like mad men redux

well yeah all these shows from that period have that feel but at least on premium cable it shouldn't feel quite as toothless as pan am or playboy club

what are the untapped televisual decades?

1890

WRONG

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/74/TheAdventuresOfBriscoCountyJropeninglogo.jpg

I've started in on Homeland (pilot episode I uh managed to watch was weirdly bowdlerized -- amateurishly blocking out nudity, muting the soundtrack entirely whenever characters make sexytime noises/profanity) -- and it's good, but...? Still very reliant on fictional conventions. Not hooked yet, at any rate.

yeah you d/l or streamed the censored version of the pilot i did the same thing theres a verz w/ the swears and good stuff out there as well

haha leee you saw the same one i did. we loled a lot.

I went cold turkey and skipped everything this year, even shows I was watching before (Dexter, SoA, P&R, Community, etc. etc.). Watched a little bit of Homeland, but was put off by the b-plots and found my attention wandering (I loved Rubicon FWIW). Watched an episode of The Good Wife and it seemed rather good.

Is there anything I'm missing? I'm at the point now where I'm just ignoring the weekly air dates and just watching the entire season all at once. Planning on doing this with Breaking Bad when the final season airs.

BTW, seconding (thirding) "You're Getting Old / Ass Burgers" as the best episode of anything I've seen on television all year.

man i wish they hadn't killed rubicon :(

The cancellation of Rubicon and Terriers was actually the precipitate of why I just gave up all series this year. (did catch up on a lot of movies though)

Rubicon was by no means great but i do wish it would've gotten a 2nd season over Walking Dead or The Killing

They killed off the boring Miranda Richardson character so there was nowhere to go but up!

Sveral Homeland eps were written by Rubicon's second showrunner, Henry Bromell (who also produces). There are some clear similarities, esp. in the back half of the season.

*several

haha you could seriously delete pretty much the entire Miranda Richardson arc from Rubicon and the show would lose next to nothing in terms of plot or entertainment value -- i actually already forgot about that whole part of the show until you mentioned it just now

i am finally watching Firefly
thx netflix :)

I really, really was let down by Firefly. Like, nerds, really?

i don't really get whedon, like i guess he's supposed to be good with dialogue and characterization but the patter is so forgettable and bland and the characters are 'logable' in the most transparent ways possible

haha um 'lovable'

not so good w/ the dialogue, much better w/ the characterization. also at one point in time, good at creating characters (partic in Buffy) unlike any other character on tv. i think firefly was more exciting bc of the genre exercise (western + scifi) than bc of the characters. tho some of the characters (reynolds, zoe, jayne) were versions of western tropes + so were interesting along that line. i thought dollhouse was a total waste of time.

i haven't actually watched much Buffy, episodes here and there, which i liked, and no other whedon series really
i like Firefly though because of the cowboy western stuff + space! mostly and because there are a lot of non-lame women characters. it's no Farscape, however.

i don't really get whedon

me either

firefly and dollhouse are awesome, dr horrible is near perfect, buffy makes no sense to me and is kinda crap imo.

yeah dollhouse started not so great but warmed up p nicely

lol dollhouse is awesome and buffy is crap

i genuinely cannot understand how someone would think like this

its like saying illmatic is rub but nastradamus now that is the best hiphop record ever made

watched 10 episodes of homeland yesterday, showtime finally made a good tv show, im sure thats been covered, did not read thread

ill check back in when im done guys!

Whedon does quiet inspirational humanism really well, esp. in Firefly.

buffy rules. i've never finished another whedon series except dr. horrible.

there's a whedon-written episode of roseanne that i love to death

I think Buffy is academically good but I have almost no emotional attachment to the series aside from a couple of key series moments (Buffy's mom, Dark Willow). I have always enjoyed watching the show but never enough to make a point of trying to see it.

Firefly OTOH was just awesome, esp. once I saw it in the correct order.

Whedon is pretty great at picking actors but overall I like the Firefly cast more than the Buffy cast.

I never got past the opening of Dollhouse; great premise tho.

Dr Horrible pwns, obv

Since the sandbox doesn't have a P&R thread, this goes in here:

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lx241ppdm61qm1br0o1_500.jpg

lol and I just now watched the Twilight Zone where Anne Blyth plays a movie star that never ages and is probably Cleopatra.

I'm iffy about Dr. Horrible, the ending wasn't very funny.

aw now i wish i hadn't finished watching firefly earlier today bc it would be the perfect thing to watch before going to bed tonight
the final ep is v good imo

Blimey, Sherlock was a bit good.

Or, as you you could say, Not Shit Sherlock.

did the new one air already??

Aye, 2010 tonight. Loosely based on A Scandal In Bohemia.

this is the 4th ep right?

Yes. Next Sunday has the one based on Hound of the Baskervilles.

looks like - max, i think? - was right:

Deadwood had sympathetic characters who threw the word "nigger" around, on the theory that we'd understand that people in that time and place might have done it without intending an insult. Everyone who uses that word on Hell On Wheels does intend an insult, which is fine, except that the show goes out of its way to lump Bohannon in with the insulted. It insists on the superior dignity of those on the bottom of society, then works extra hard to shoehorn its quick-drawing hero in there, on the theory that there's nobody more long-suffering and sinned against than a good-looking white Southern man who can kick the ass of anybody who looks at him cross-eyed. It's not bad enough that American politics have been rendered infantile and idiotic by the trend among the privileged and well-off to feel unaccountably sorry for themselves; now even our Westerns can't keep their hands off the crying towels. This goddamn show should be called H-E-Double-Hockey Sticks On Wheels.

i was just thinking about that old ilx how i met your mother thread and how i may have said some mean things about it and now it's probably my favorite show on tv.

also tv related, i really hate how this season they have turned walking dead on amc into lost...missing characters appearing in visions, people not divulging key plot points to each other, sweeping camera pans w meaningful musical score that take up 4 minutes of what should be tense zombie apocalypse, really obvious "twists" that take way too long in the revealing, etc

also tv related, i really hate how this season they have turned walking dead on amc into lost...missing characters appearing in visions, people not divulging key plot points to each other, sweeping camera pans w meaningful musical score that take up 4 minutes of what should be tense zombie apocalypse, really obvious "twists" that take way too long in the revealing, etc

also tv related, i really hate how this season they have turned walking dead on amc into lost...missing characters appearing in visions, people not divulging key plot points to each other, sweeping camera pans w meaningful musical score that take up 4 minutes of what should be tense zombie apocalypse, really obvious "twists" that take way too long in the revealing, etc

oops!

i feel bad for nathan fillion, i just love him but it seems outside of joss whedon ventures he can't catch a break.