pazz & jop 2011

"video games" didn't chart in the US at all?! did not know that

i'm w/ jaymc that i think "i'm on one" will beat out "look at me now"

I didn't actually say that. Both are essentially question marks for me.

i routinely forget that ppl like new britney songs, "till the world ends" could be a top 10 contender

"teenage dream" was the one KP song that ppl were going to rally around, right?

oh, well then i'm w/ myself

I had Chris Brown at #2 for "Beautiful People." Not really reluctantly, as I try not to censor my tastes. Queasily would be the more accurate word.

ha, i hope "give me everything" does really well

Listening now. Yeah, I don't recognize it. It's possible I've heard it on the radio, but it would've been WAY WAY less than "Party Rock Anthem" or "Give Me Everything" or "Super Bass" or "Moves Like Jagger" or "Last Friday Night" or "We Found Love" or "Grenade," etc. (Fwiw, I also hadn't heard "I'm on One" until it showed up on the P4k list.)

yes but "Look At Me Now" has a higher critical profile than most of those songs except "Super Bass" and maybe one other

"Give Me Everything" is on my ballot but i've kinda given up hope on it having any kind of dent

there is really a huge cross section of both hipsters and lamestreamers for whom "look at me now" was the token rap song of the year

"video games" didn't chart in the US at all?! did not know that

Not all that surprising: "Video Games" doesn't really fit into any of the major radio formats. (Although I'm not sure "Pumped Up Kicks" does, either, and it was huge.)

xp that's true -- i think i'm underrating it cuz it was such an early year hit

think "party rock anthem" will do pretty well, too

you're prob right about "pumped up kicks" + i might be overrating "video games", but it could be the "dancing on my own" of 2011

there is really a huge cross section of both hipsters and lamestreamers for whom "look at me now" was the token rap song of the year

are these all the ppl that voted for nixon??

i have never heard of this "pumped up kicks" before now

"video games" was top 10 here, still hanging around the top 40 and will likely do so for a while. proper crossover hit.

yes but "Look At Me Now" has a higher critical profile than most of those songs except "Super Bass" and maybe one other

That's why I inserted the disclaimer about being out of the loop; I have no idea what the "critical profile" for Chris Brown songs is. Much of the time my sense of which mainstream pop songs have the potential to appeal to a wider audience comes from listening to my wife and friends.

Anyway, kind of cool song, maybe it'll get some votes, although I have to think there are a lot of critics who still wouldn't vote for Chris Brown on principle.

― jaymc, Thursday, December 29, 2011 12:24 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

also, diplo 'produced' it

i have never heard of this "pumped up kicks" before now

People have been talking about it here (and even in my real life world) all year. That's not an endorsement.

i just googled - oh it's that band. the only place i've heard people talk about foster the people is ilx. i don't really think i need to hear this until it's forced on me.

It got nommed and received a couple votes in last year's ILM poll too (track's been around for FOREVER).

Looks like "Video Games" hit #16 on Billboard's Hot Singles Sales chart, which measures sales of non-digital singles. Supposedly that chart data is used in compiling the Hot 100 -- however, there are so few CD singles released or purchased these days that an artist can perform fairly well on that chart without even making a dent in the bigger chart.

Foster the People are def some d-baggey looking white dudes. I fully expect the bass player's face to be haunting my nightmares tonight

there's literally no correlation between billboard and what dbag critics vote into pazz and jop

nah the connecting thread is 'terrible'

I'd probably go:

Album: Bon Iver
Single: Super Bass

I will figuratively cry fiery tears of rage when Bon Iver inevitably tops P&J. I'll even say that as a fan of his first album. The new on is so boring and the love for it all over the place is just.....do not want.

shakur/rest

I just can't wrap my head around the appeal, except maybe that last song that sounds like a Gayngs cast-off.

indie listeners who prefer vowels to consonants?

there's literally no correlation between billboard and what dbag critics vote into pazz and jop

If this is in response to my previous post, I had looked up the chart performance of "Video Games" out of idle curiosity, after the Lex expressed surprise that it hadn't charted in the US. I agree that its failure to chart here has little bearing on whether it will get P&J votes, since she's become something of a darling among bloggers/critics anyway.

However, in general, I don't think it's fair to say that there's "literally no correlation" between Billboard and P&J. While a low-charting song can certainly do well on P&J, wide mainstream popularity obviously confers certain advantages.

yeah it's not the only factor but it is definitely a factor.

I hope "Pumped Up Kicks" voters watched this video before emailing their ballots.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlAgHt92lqE

being at z100's jingle ball for an arena-wide 'pumped up kicks' singalong was definitely one of 2011's most surreal personal pop moments

i remembering pulling some alt-rock airplay stats once that basically showed Sublime's "Santeria" to be the most popular rock song of the '90s, and that was one of the first things i was reminded of when i heard "Pumped Up Kicks" and may be the reason i haven't been especially surprised by how successful it has become.

Yes. Those two songs will outlive us all.

I was surprised though that the album is quite not-bad.

santeria played at my senior prom

so did get low, actually

that "actually" was in there cuz i confused this thread with the is singing get low racist thread

it's ok, you ain't got no crystal ball

only one rap album on my ballot this year, feel like i'm sellin out somehow

didn't pitchfork #1 an m83 song?

it will probably be that

smh

because it's so possible or because i said it??

only one rap album on my ballot this year, feel like i'm sellin out somehow

― uncle bannmee who can recall his past logins (dealwithit.gif), Thursday, December 29, 2011 3:13 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

heh i felt that way about only having three and having drake as my top rap album

well yeah on the latter point you are a sellout

figured :-/

oh lord people

Basically why I can never identify w/the goon ethos.

dudes i was kidding. i mean whiney wanted to revoke my goon status for laughing at the "party of five" grocery bag and six months later is repping for a drake album, i think everybody can handle some taunting about their love of canadian submarine rap. also i only have like 3 rap albums in my top 10 too, i think that's probably true of a lot of goon types.

ftr i knew that al was kidding (duh)

I was oh-lording you people putting Drake in your lists.

oh i know (to j0rdan)

oh i didn't know, that's good (to alf)

no doubt

so wait, deej if 90% of the new music you listen to isn't rap, what is the percentage? srs question

― some dude (Mr. Stevenson #2), Friday, December 30, 2011 6:59 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Permalink

this year it was probably close to that. in years previous, dance music & R&B probably made up a combined 40%

single genre ballots are the best ones this shld be obv

yeah they're more fun/useful to look at, like the genre lists spin did this year were cool

i last year & this year i've make my ilx trax ballot exclusively charting singles & notable rap youtubes. i find that otherwise the process is too intellectually jarring & the result not as satisfying