pazz & jop 2011

haha it was fun to scare you tho

i should've floated that rumor a week before polls closed

lol

does "rolling in the deep" run away with the singles poll?

I predicted "Rolling in the Deep" at #1 back in, like, June, and a couple people said that they thought it was more like a #3. But honestly I can't see what might end up ahead of it at this point.

I VOTED
FOR
PARTY ROCK ANTHEM

^^i need a sticker

forgot about "look at me now", i'd be surprised if that did better than "i'm on one" but again my feeling for p&j voting isn't great

i guess lana del rey will be in the top 10, right?

yeah well the year SEEMS really young and fully of possibility at the halfway mark, six months later the only hits that have peaked since june that seem like remote contenders are "super bass" and "nas in paris"

xpost - "look at me now" will def be in the top 10 and higher than "i'm on one"

yeah, i mean corny pop always does really well, so i think "rolling in the deep" has to be the odds on favorite

last year's singles top 10 is such a disaster -- three kanye singles in the top 5

"holocene" is prob a lock for 2011's "bloodbuzz ohio" (lol) tho it might do a bit better than that

oh fucking duh of course, "video games" will prob be no 1

feel like if "runaway" AND "power" (i mean jesus) both made it into the top 5 last year, that "otis" and "nas in paris" are locks for the top 10, if not the top 5

"we found love" is prob gonna be top 10, as well

yeah i think "Otis" had a strong shot at the top 5 over the summer but now that there's been a more popular follow-up i think it'll get knocked down, maybe slightly out of the top 10.

but yeah last year was a disgrace (and i took so much shit for saying so!)

i have no idea what the top ten will look like but it will be irredeemable garbage

"we found love" becoming the most critically embraced rihanna song since "umbrella" is so nuts but probably really is happening

xpost - "look at me now" will def be in the top 10 and higher than "i'm on one"

Eh, maybe I'm out of the loop, but I had to google "Look at Me Now." Hard for me to imagine that being ahead of anything by Lady Gaga, Rihanna, and Jay-Z/Kanye.

two b.o.b singles in the top 40 last year, i always forget how squarely pop the singles list can get

is there any under the radar pop that only indie fans like this year like "tightrope" or "shutterbugg"? i can't think of anything except... "212"?

i'll also call "six foot seven foot" a darkhorse for the top 10, tho it might've fallen out of people's memory by now

jaymc how have you not heard "look at me now," i know you're not real up on mersh radio but that's insane

is there any under the radar pop that only indie fans like this year like "tightrope" or "shutterbugg"? i can't think of anything except... "212"?

I wouldn't exactly call it under the radar, since it's off a platinum-selling record, but "Countdown," which has been getting a lot of end-of-year attention, charted no higher than #71.

rolling in the deep
holocene
countdown
i'm on one
super bass
nas in paris
otis
video games
we found love
edge of glory

(not in that order)

i'm prob way off, forgetting about a destroyer song or something

Starting in 2004 with Franz Ferdinand, I've only liked two singles winners ("Gold Digger" and "Paper Planes"); many I've really disliked. "Rolling in the Deep" will be the latest.

haha yes "i'm on one" will be the 2nd highest top 10 hit on the poll, sure

i really think "Pumped Up Kicks" could be Adele's biggest competition tbh

Just asking, but despite "Look at me Now" getting lots of radio play, will some P & joppers not pick it because Chris Brown's name is on it?

haha yes "i'm on one" will be the 2nd highest top 10 hit on the poll, sure

― some dude (Mr. Stevenson #2), Thursday, December 29, 2011 12:20 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

i'm w/ jaymc that i think "i'm on one" will beat out "look at me now"

jaymc how have you not heard "look at me now," i know you're not real up on mersh radio but that's insane

Listening now. Yeah, I don't recognize it. It's possible I've heard it on the radio, but it would've been WAY WAY less than "Party Rock Anthem" or "Give Me Everything" or "Super Bass" or "Moves Like Jagger" or "Last Friday Night" or "We Found Love" or "Grenade," etc. (Fwiw, I also hadn't heard "I'm on One" until it showed up on the P4k list.)

Anyway, kind of cool song, maybe it'll get some votes, although I have to think there are a lot of critics who still wouldn't vote for Chris Brown on principle.

"video games" didn't chart in the US at all?! did not know that

i'm w/ jaymc that i think "i'm on one" will beat out "look at me now"

I didn't actually say that. Both are essentially question marks for me.

i routinely forget that ppl like new britney songs, "till the world ends" could be a top 10 contender

"teenage dream" was the one KP song that ppl were going to rally around, right?

oh, well then i'm w/ myself

I had Chris Brown at #2 for "Beautiful People." Not really reluctantly, as I try not to censor my tastes. Queasily would be the more accurate word.

ha, i hope "give me everything" does really well

Listening now. Yeah, I don't recognize it. It's possible I've heard it on the radio, but it would've been WAY WAY less than "Party Rock Anthem" or "Give Me Everything" or "Super Bass" or "Moves Like Jagger" or "Last Friday Night" or "We Found Love" or "Grenade," etc. (Fwiw, I also hadn't heard "I'm on One" until it showed up on the P4k list.)

yes but "Look At Me Now" has a higher critical profile than most of those songs except "Super Bass" and maybe one other

"Give Me Everything" is on my ballot but i've kinda given up hope on it having any kind of dent

there is really a huge cross section of both hipsters and lamestreamers for whom "look at me now" was the token rap song of the year

"video games" didn't chart in the US at all?! did not know that

Not all that surprising: "Video Games" doesn't really fit into any of the major radio formats. (Although I'm not sure "Pumped Up Kicks" does, either, and it was huge.)

xp that's true -- i think i'm underrating it cuz it was such an early year hit

think "party rock anthem" will do pretty well, too

you're prob right about "pumped up kicks" + i might be overrating "video games", but it could be the "dancing on my own" of 2011

there is really a huge cross section of both hipsters and lamestreamers for whom "look at me now" was the token rap song of the year

are these all the ppl that voted for nixon??

i have never heard of this "pumped up kicks" before now

"video games" was top 10 here, still hanging around the top 40 and will likely do so for a while. proper crossover hit.

yes but "Look At Me Now" has a higher critical profile than most of those songs except "Super Bass" and maybe one other

That's why I inserted the disclaimer about being out of the loop; I have no idea what the "critical profile" for Chris Brown songs is. Much of the time my sense of which mainstream pop songs have the potential to appeal to a wider audience comes from listening to my wife and friends.

Anyway, kind of cool song, maybe it'll get some votes, although I have to think there are a lot of critics who still wouldn't vote for Chris Brown on principle.

― jaymc, Thursday, December 29, 2011 12:24 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

also, diplo 'produced' it

i have never heard of this "pumped up kicks" before now

People have been talking about it here (and even in my real life world) all year. That's not an endorsement.

i just googled - oh it's that band. the only place i've heard people talk about foster the people is ilx. i don't really think i need to hear this until it's forced on me.

It got nommed and received a couple votes in last year's ILM poll too (track's been around for FOREVER).

Looks like "Video Games" hit #16 on Billboard's Hot Singles Sales chart, which measures sales of non-digital singles. Supposedly that chart data is used in compiling the Hot 100 -- however, there are so few CD singles released or purchased these days that an artist can perform fairly well on that chart without even making a dent in the bigger chart.

Foster the People are def some d-baggey looking white dudes. I fully expect the bass player's face to be haunting my nightmares tonight

there's literally no correlation between billboard and what dbag critics vote into pazz and jop

nah the connecting thread is 'terrible'

I'd probably go:

Album: Bon Iver
Single: Super Bass

I will figuratively cry fiery tears of rage when Bon Iver inevitably tops P&J. I'll even say that as a fan of his first album. The new on is so boring and the love for it all over the place is just.....do not want.

shakur/rest

yeah, but he did bring the rice out

lol @ "nas in paris" btw

i was gonna vote for riff raff's uncuct cocaine cypher freestyle #1 (which is prob my most listened to... thing of the year, or at least the only thing that was in my head for 2.5 straight months) but then i got cold feet and didn't want to sully the sanctity of p&j voting them to confuse my ballot with forks'

― uncle bannmee who can recall his past logins (dealwithit.gif), Thursday, December 29, 2011 5:14 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

ha i already made amends w/ this (and w/ forks) in a thread on originilx

heh i felt that way about only having three and having drake as my top rap album

really? really? i...

wtf causes someone to have such a big turnaround on drake?

Being in love.

ha!

i always rate pop rap really high and i think it's the most adventurous & surprising & sonically pleasing pop rap album of the year

its not bad homies first drake joint to sonically please meh.

more or less

kl0pper's room

like uh lex drake was worthless ringtone soap opera quasi-rap myspace top 8-oh8s-and-cheesecake for a solid three years and now is making dubquake hipstamatic dank-ocean screwpop aw man cuz man we in your face ay

#hashtag

ಠ_ಠ

dubquake hipstamatic dank-ocean screwpop

so now it's MELLOW worthless ringtone soap opera quasi-rap myspace top 8-oh8s-and-cheesecake

may be a neon murkmellow flashing-ing-ing lights iunno

whiney turned into luriqua so gradually I didn't even notice

synths of suburban swampland get dark and kings in gold sports cars ride yesterday over echo drums

synths of suburban swampland

kinda think this should be somebody's memoir

what is adventurous or surprising about wispy clouds of ~moody~ nothing?

^word, +1 to lex

whenever i see ballots that are 90% one genre, whether that's rap or techno or indie, i always think, um, do you listen to other genres? there is so much good music out there and it is (almost) everywhere.

ok, well, to answer that question, yes i do, but i liked these albums more than what i heard from those genres

now u know

90% one genre, whether that's rap or techno or indie, i always think, um, do you listen to other genres? there is so much good music out there and it is (almost) everywhere.

― degas-dirty monet (lex pretend), Friday, 30 December 2011

Kind of an interesting one this. Definitely 90%+ of..newly released music I listen to is broadly house music related. But this probably drops to about maybe 60% of all music old or new. When it comes to older music (both new to me and already known to me) the spectrum is a lot wider. I'm not all that sure why it should be so narrow in one aspect and so wide in another - perhaps could make a possibly spurious argument that the period of "old music" is a larger and wider time period than the period of 2011 which is just one year - not sure

so wait, deej if 90% of the new music you listen to isn't rap, what is the percentage? srs question

at the beginning of the year it seemed like a foregone conclusion that the Tyler, The Creator album would do well in year-end lists and that seems to has pretty much dissolved, but "Yonkers" is still a lock to be maybe the highest rap song on the singles poll right?

no doubt

so wait, deej if 90% of the new music you listen to isn't rap, what is the percentage? srs question

― some dude (Mr. Stevenson #2), Friday, December 30, 2011 6:59 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Permalink

this year it was probably close to that. in years previous, dance music & R&B probably made up a combined 40%

single genre ballots are the best ones this shld be obv

yeah they're more fun/useful to look at, like the genre lists spin did this year were cool

i last year & this year i've make my ilx trax ballot exclusively charting singles & notable rap youtubes. i find that otherwise the process is too intellectually jarring & the result not as satisfying