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if it were actually a problem for him, why are all the people who are talking about what a problem it is democrats?

― nuneb (nuneb), Friday, 1 December 2006 20:18 (seventeen years ago) link

also, as i mentioned, this guy:

http://www.tricountyjog.homestead.com/files/kerik.gif

he's mob connected and he's rudy's best friend.

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Friday, 1 December 2006 20:19 (seventeen years ago) link

if it were actually a problem for him, why are all the people who are talking about what a problem it is democrats?

which problem?

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Friday, 1 December 2006 20:20 (seventeen years ago) link

i haven't the faintest idea what he's gonna do. but he's said that he might not announce until August. sure, he's got high name id, and can only benefit from avoiding scrutiny, but it hardly suggests that he's serious about the top spot.

no one gives a shit about bernie kerik.

― nuneb (nuneb), Friday, 1 December 2006 20:21 (seventeen years ago) link

i could see that continuing or it could turn in to a foley-like quagmire. the only reason guliani's avoided much kerik scrutiny up to now is because he's been in the private sector.

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Friday, 1 December 2006 20:24 (seventeen years ago) link

and it's exactly the sort of thing that makes a presidential candidate think aw fuck it let's go huckabee.

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Friday, 1 December 2006 20:27 (seventeen years ago) link

"It's a two-way contest between McCain and Romney."

—Rich Galen, strategist for Newt Gingrich, admitting his candidate doesn't stand a chance yesterday at a forum of GOP strategists. Galen spoke of Gingrich's potential role as a candidate who could pitch ideas and affect the debate, but had little optimism about an actual victory.

heh

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Friday, 1 December 2006 20:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Obama's on Leno tonight

― nuneb (nuneb), Friday, 1 December 2006 20:46 (seventeen years ago) link

anyone who can get me to watch jay leno should have no problem becoming president.

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Friday, 1 December 2006 20:57 (seventeen years ago) link

A neat little run-down about all the shit said about Brandon Mayfield, the oregon lawyer who got released and paid $2 million in damages for wrongful imprisonment, 'cuz one of his fingerprints was allegedly connected with the Madrid train bombings and circumstantial evidence for everything else. The LGF posts are particularly amusing.

― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Friday, 1 December 2006 23:22 (seventeen years ago) link

best Obama piece yet in of all places the Washingtonian?

― nuneb (nuneb), Monday, 4 December 2006 20:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Dick Cheney's lesbian daughter is pregnant! Congratz!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/06/AR2006120600221.html

― StanM (StanM), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 14:59 (seventeen years ago) link

didn't watch the leno - not sure what this means.

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 15:34 (seventeen years ago) link

huckabee forgets he's republican, advocates kindness, hospitality.

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 20:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Jerome Armstrong weighs in on the Dems

― nuneb (nuneb), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 20:44 (seventeen years ago) link

why does anyone consider clark a serious candidate? dude shoots self in foot @ every opportunity.

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 20:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Bill "Cold Cash" Jefferson wins runoff election - Louisiana in being tolerant of corrupt pol non-shockah!

― bliss (blass), Sunday, 10 December 2006 16:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Looks like Obama's getting set up to go.

Unfortunately, the experts have spoken, and Jesus would not vote for him. Oh well.

― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Monday, 11 December 2006 20:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't think Armstrong makes much sense here, but generally I haven't found his instincts to be very sound

― dar1a g (dar1a g), Monday, 11 December 2006 20:56 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/adbanners/ad.columnist.Chuck_Norris.125x600.gif

― and what (ooo), Monday, 11 December 2006 21:24 (seventeen years ago) link

why is chuck's eyeline about 15 degrees askew from his jaw?

― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Monday, 11 December 2006 21:26 (seventeen years ago) link

tanned, rested and ready!

― nuneb (nuneb), Monday, 11 December 2006 21:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Too bad there's no one with Kucinich's positions who has all the non-positional things Obama has.

― Dr M (Dr Morbius), Monday, 11 December 2006 21:42 (seventeen years ago) link

good Obama&others stuff here, and especially in the links

― nuneb (nuneb), Monday, 11 December 2006 21:42 (seventeen years ago) link

found this nice little cast photo from the first few seasons:

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/5105/bushsopranospi0.jpg

― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Monday, 11 December 2006 22:07 (seventeen years ago) link

that's a good link gabbneb but I'd say that the comments are even better than the embedded links.

― dandy don weiner (dandy don weiner), Tuesday, 12 December 2006 04:20 (seventeen years ago) link

We need a rolling "LOL OBAMA = terrist!" thread, for stuff like CNN's Jeff Greenfield for broadcasting shit like this:

"...Is there any other major public figure who dresses the way [Obama] does? Why, yes. It is Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who, unlike most of his predecessors, seems to have skipped through enough copies of GQ to find the jacket-and-no-tie look agreeable. And maybe that's not the comparison a possible presidential contender really wants to evoke.

[...]

Now, it is one thing to have a last name that sounds like Osama and a middle name, Hussein, that is probably less than helpful, but an outfit that reminds people of a charter member of the axis of evil, why, this could leave his presidential hopes hanging by a thread. Or is that threads?"

― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Wednesday, 13 December 2006 19:09 (seventeen years ago) link

So how 'bout that University of California taser incident, huh? Anybody remember that?

Nobody got fired. People are still talking about Kramer, though.

― Colin M (All names have been taken), Thursday, 14 December 2006 16:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Well Colin maybe if you and I hadn't been such horrible trolls on that thread it would have gotten a sandbox revive

― TOM. BOT. (trm), Thursday, 14 December 2006 16:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I'd be filled with shame if the students standing around and meekly filming had done a god damn bit of difference.

― Colin M (All names have been taken), Thursday, 14 December 2006 16:25 (seventeen years ago) link

it's funny cause ahmadinejad is such a shlub and obama is so slick and cause it's a v common look and also because the trying to make obama seem terroristy is such a pitifully impotent attack.

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Thursday, 14 December 2006 16:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Bye Bayh

― nuneb (nuneb), Saturday, 16 December 2006 16:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't really expect it, but I wouldn't at all be surprised. While I believed Warner was getting out for the reasons he said, I've also wondered since not long thereafter if he thought he was peaking too early and wanted to stay lower-profile for a while (or - and this is at least somewhat in hindsight - to allow Obama to rise without doing so at his own expense).

― nuneb (nuneb), Sunday, 17 December 2006 23:56 (seventeen years ago) link

― nuneb (nuneb), Monday, 18 December 2006 05:10 (seventeen years ago) link

love love love that all the 'neb's fave podpeople are pulling out.

― Dr M (Dr Morbius), Monday, 18 December 2006 14:49 (seventeen years ago) link

what are you talking about, dude? my favorite guy (warner) got out weeks/months ago, and now might get back in. my second favorite guy (obama) is pretty clearly getting in. and my third favorite guy (edwards) is definitely getting in, and not a 'pod person'. but i'm sure they'll all lose in the end to Kucinich/Brodeur, amirite?

― nuneb (nuneb), Monday, 18 December 2006 15:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I wonder if Clark is a pod person.

― nuneb (nuneb), Monday, 18 December 2006 15:45 (seventeen years ago) link

also, if you meant Bayh, apparently you missed my references to the lethality of the boredom he induces

― nuneb (nuneb), Monday, 18 December 2006 15:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I didn't know you thought well of Edwards, my mistake. He's the only potential nominee (well, besides Obama -- can you name 3 non-boilerplate positions he holds, btw?) I haven't blackballed.

― Dr M (Dr Morbius), Monday, 18 December 2006 15:56 (seventeen years ago) link

besides earmark disclosure? not off the top of my head. boilerplate is what wins elections. see, e.g., Bush, George W.

― nuneb (nuneb), Monday, 18 December 2006 16:01 (seventeen years ago) link

like most Dems, he likes single-payer, but favors alternative means to get to universal coverage because he thinks they're more feasible. unlike some Dems, though, he's willing to defend single payer on policy grounds (and supported it in Illinois).

― nuneb (nuneb), Monday, 18 December 2006 16:04 (seventeen years ago) link

also, can you name 3 non-boilerplate positions Edwards holds?

(hint: "poverty is bad" is not a position)

― nuneb (nuneb), Monday, 18 December 2006 16:06 (seventeen years ago) link

boilerplate is what wins elections

soooo inspiring. God, you are an android.

― Dr M (Dr Morbius), Monday, 18 December 2006 16:07 (seventeen years ago) link

you can be inspirational and still hold boilerplate positions. and most voters in America may not be especially interested in the policies that might inspire you.

― nuneb (nuneb), Monday, 18 December 2006 16:09 (seventeen years ago) link

One of the reservations by the hand-wringers is that Obama hasn't promoted some end-all/be-all legislation in his two years of being a low-ranking member of the minority party, but here's a neat bit on the legislation he has done, which tends to be bi-partisian, non-flashy, and important

― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Monday, 18 December 2006 20:42 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, for what little time and seniority he's had, he's rather accomplished. and while ordinarily i might try to suppress my fondness for the legislative end of things in picking a president, he's actually managed the trick of showing leadership qualities in a non-executive position.

― nuneb (nuneb), Monday, 18 December 2006 21:58 (seventeen years ago) link

at this point, i'm happy just to say fuggit and help out with his campaign, at least locally(not that greater Portland will be all that difficult a territory to win over, mind you...)

― kingfish in absentia (kingfish), Monday, 18 December 2006 22:01 (seventeen years ago) link

dreamt last night that i was hanging out w/obama and he was an 18 yr/o kid and i was kinda hmmm seems a little raw maybe 2012

― jhoshea (jhoshea), Monday, 18 December 2006 22:16 (seventeen years ago) link

very droll

― nuneb (nuneb), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 14:51 (seventeen years ago) link

key

― nuneb (nuneb), Tuesday, 19 December 2006 15:40 (seventeen years ago) link

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