wasn't all required viewing sorry, just the lace/inside of the foot bit at 2:50. i was thinking about slide tackles after that milijas red card. don't think i was ever actually coached how to do slide properly.
anyway, that milijas foul was a red all day obviously.
― Chris, Tuesday, 27 December 2011 23:51 (twelve years ago) link
Not your fault at all, I had ample warning during the first 2:30 of what trousers to choose. It's quite a nice video in its way and I'm glad they're teaching it, it's just that the potential for use in my life is slim.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 27 December 2011 23:55 (twelve years ago) link
And yeah, while Spurs should certainly feel like third is for the taking, actually challenging for the title?
i don't feel any such thing tbh, still reckon that the away games at the other cl runners will see us pushed hard for 4th by the other london teams
― twice banned gabbage is death (p much resigned to deems), Wednesday, 28 December 2011 00:58 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/dec/27/robberies-napoli-footballers-mafia-rumours
― nakhchivan, Wednesday, 28 December 2011 01:31 (twelve years ago) link
And one question in particular irks Dalglish - a question he was again asked in the aftermath of another unfulfilling afternoon for £35m striker Andy Carroll. He may not like the question, but it will not go away until the giant Geordie at least hints at riches - not to mention value for money - to come.
― nakhchivan, Wednesday, 28 December 2011 04:14 (twelve years ago) link
just looked at spurs' run in
how soon til people start taking them seriously? if they're still within 6 points come april?
― (╯°□°)╯┻━zǝɹɐns sınl━┻ (cccccc), Wednesday, 28 December 2011 07:39 (twelve years ago) link
never
― pandemic, Wednesday, 28 December 2011 11:18 (twelve years ago) link
We'd have to beat one of the Manchester clubs for that to happen. We will never beat United no matter how shit they are on the day. While I think January is the best possible time to be playing City (and we REALLY want the Ivory Coast to get to the African Nations Cup final) I still think we'll be lucky to not lose.
That said, we keep possession amazingly well right now and Parker and Sandro are so quick at winning it back, it's just a case of getting as much daylight as possible between us and fourth while the going's good.
The run-in is really nice though, certainly better than two years ago when we had to play Arsenal, Chelsea, United and City within like six games.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 28 December 2011 12:40 (twelve years ago) link
Spurs are comfortably the 3rd best side in the league I think. The groupings in the top 6 as of right now are a true reflection of the state of the teams/squads. City, Utd, Spurs in one group. Chelsea, Arsenal, LFC in the other.
The way they finished last season I must admit that I was expecting Spurs regress if anything this season, instead they've moved steadily forward. Also the only team to completely outplay us this season, badly.
Starting to think that Chelsea are more than a year away from sorting things out even if they do stick with this manager. Kind of amazed at how close LFC are to 4th place given the amount of points squandered at home.
― pandemic, Wednesday, 28 December 2011 12:58 (twelve years ago) link
Spurs, City and Utd are averaging well over two points per game. Some years only one team manages that.
Was kind of amazed that Liverpool's home record is still no worse than any side below them, though it's still way worse than the top five. So many dropped points from day one. The away record's great though (though Utd's is something else), as is the defence. It totally reflects what the side has become though - bar Suarez and Bellamy, when he plays, I'd never fancy us to have the guile to break down defences. Faced with a top side, or playing away, we're much better.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 28 December 2011 13:20 (twelve years ago) link
The defense has impressed me because I don't really think that we've often set out to play defensively or negatively. Have been attacking in most games. The lack of guile is stark though, as you suggest.
― pandemic, Wednesday, 28 December 2011 13:24 (twelve years ago) link
Selling Meireles doesn't get much attention now, but it was really stupid.
(Swansea have a better home record after yesterday)
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 28 December 2011 13:27 (twelve years ago) link
We have too many CMs that do the same kind of thing to varying standards. Meireles was slightly different at least, as is Maxi although he often plays wide.
Not buying the idea that we've been simply 'unlucky' at home either. Norwich game was unlucky/wasteful, but Swansea, Blackburn games were both poor imo.
― pandemic, Wednesday, 28 December 2011 13:36 (twelve years ago) link
Exactly right re saminess. There's Cole and Aquilani elsewhere too, so this is deliberate. I wouldn't be surprised if we were to offer Lampard a way out of his flexible midfield hell.
I do think luck is a factor though. Terrible as patches have been, there's been a fair bit of steamrollering in patches too, and a lot of woodwork, and even Carroll's had a few big saves where he wasn't really at fault. It could be a long famine for the never in doubt feast a few years back.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 28 December 2011 13:48 (twelve years ago) link
Forgotten about Joe Cole. Doing okay for Lille too by all accounts. Aquilani has looked good when I've seen Milan this season but it's Serie A so who knows, I mean Dossena has looked useful for Napoli too!
Can it really be true that Torres has scored more league goals in 2011 for LFC than he has for Chelsea?
― pandemic, Wednesday, 28 December 2011 13:51 (twelve years ago) link
Apparently so! 4 vs 3.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 28 December 2011 13:53 (twelve years ago) link
He's still got time tbf.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 28 December 2011 13:54 (twelve years ago) link
One v Bolton, one v Blackpool, and two in the win over Wolves.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 28 December 2011 13:58 (twelve years ago) link
So he was in form when they got him. 4 goals in less than a month. Crying shame what that there London has done to the fella.
Feel sorry for him tbh. Would love it if he had an absolutely amazing Euros. Golden Boot etc.
― pandemic, Wednesday, 28 December 2011 13:59 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wwREHz7k5s
― James, Thursday, 29 December 2011 12:43 (twelve years ago) link
B+
― big popppa hoy, Thursday, 29 December 2011 13:08 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/dec/29/bbc-football-league-show-faces-axe
― Hongro4AS (nakhchivan), Thursday, 29 December 2011 13:45 (twelve years ago) link
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/default.stm
probably the most lamentable bbc fitba lead story
― Hongro4AS (nakhchivan), Thursday, 29 December 2011 14:51 (twelve years ago) link
http://juanmanandhisdug.wordpress.com/2011/12/27/tony-evans-in-the-times/
http://www.blacklawyer.org/?post=lawyers-accuse-liverpool-and-chelsea-football-clubs-of-condoning-suarez-and-terry-racism
― The Artist Formerly Known As Teh HoBB, Thursday, 29 December 2011 14:59 (twelve years ago) link
so no games in france right now but that just leaves more place in the news for hilarious PSG hijinks. they just fired the coach, kombouaré, who hadbrought the team to first place. because he got eliminated in pitiful fashion from the europa league. and now ancelotti is being touted as his replacement tho apparently they're still working out some details in the contract (my guess would be salary issues... the new owners have more money than sense so if you push them hard enough you get what u want).before that, they'd gotten beckham, tho that's probably not news for anyone here. he's going to be paid 800k€/month which is twice the highest salary in ligue 1. and we're also getting daily rumours : kaka a couple of days ago, tevez was mentioned etc. latest one is pato for 50M€.
― jibé, Thursday, 29 December 2011 15:08 (twelve years ago) link
How is Pastore doing?
― Number None, Thursday, 29 December 2011 15:12 (twelve years ago) link
sacking koumbaré in midseason while they're top of the league is a p shitty thing to do
also difficult wrt fans id have thought, since ak was a psg player of some reknown
― Hongro4AS (nakhchivan), Thursday, 29 December 2011 15:12 (twelve years ago) link
Ouch xps - no way Blackburn are going to lie down at Old Trafford after that.
What about Giroud, Jibe? Ludicrous amounts being quoted for this guy right now.
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 29 December 2011 15:22 (twelve years ago) link
pastore started off quite well. but lately he hasn't been that impressive or decisive. tbh though this team has a problem what with having a line of 3 made up of him, nene and menez. those three all like to have the ball and dribble. meanwhile gameiro is upfront trying to run behind the defense but he hardly ever gets the ball.
also yeah, ak is a psg player of reknown, he scored a decisive goal in extra time against real madrid in 92 or thereabouts in a european game, qualifying the team to the finals or semis or smth like that. this earned hime the nickname casque d'or iirc (golden helmet). but then agaain fans can be fickle bitches as some say that honestly with the team he had it's a shame he got eliminated out of the europa league, that the team isn't playing that well together, that with all those great players psg have and are buying, they need a great coach etc
as for giroud... well he's having a great season thus far. this is a guy who was playing in ligue 2 just 2 years ago though so i'd wait a bit before paying insane amounts for him. i think i talked about him a bit on ilx, basically he's a good target upfront who appears to have a good technique too. but tbh i haven't seen him play that much so i'm just going by what i read here and there. as for the ludicrous amounts, i'd say the fact that psg is throwing out millions all over for players is making everyone giddy and they just tend to give ridiculous prices.
― jibé, Thursday, 29 December 2011 15:25 (twelve years ago) link
http://soundcloud.com/takeover/03-mario-balotelli-ruff-sqwad
― (╯°□°)╯┻━zǝɹɐns sınl━┻ (cccccc), Thursday, 29 December 2011 18:11 (twelve years ago) link
Perhaps a sometime England international who, despite registering 11 goals in 19 appearances for Newcastle early last season, had only been playing Premier League football for five months when he was bundled into Mike Ashley's Anfield bound helicopter is as much in need of regular first-team action as decent left wing crosses from Stewart Downing.
― Hongro4AS (nakhchivan), Thursday, 29 December 2011 21:39 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2011/dec/29/andy-carroll-newcastle-liverpool/print
― Hongro4AS (nakhchivan), Thursday, 29 December 2011 21:40 (twelve years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/UZQpL.jpg
Wonder if he'll sell more shirts in Asia than Park?
― James, Thursday, 29 December 2011 21:53 (twelve years ago) link
Re: Carroll
It's just not going to happen, though, is it?
― M. White, Thursday, 29 December 2011 21:55 (twelve years ago) link
I'm not sure about Carroll atm, probably nobody else will agree but I reckon he's been showing better recently - but he's just the most frustrating player to watch, he's forever doing *the wrong thing*. Nevertheless he's started picking up chances, though not exactly playing like a beast. If that piece is right, though, he'll just be knackered. Got to say it seems as plausible as anything, certainly my reaction times etc are shot if I'm tired, and top-level players must rely on those margins more than anything.
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 29 December 2011 22:03 (twelve years ago) link
He played with immense heart for Newcastle but I've never seen him play w/much brains
― M. White, Thursday, 29 December 2011 22:06 (twelve years ago) link
there is that
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 29 December 2011 22:16 (twelve years ago) link
i posted it for its terrible syntax not for the content
carroll is just not a fitba player, but he will almost certainly score 3 or 4 while suarez is rested
― Hongro4AS (nakhchivan), Thursday, 29 December 2011 22:21 (twelve years ago) link
Apparently Liverpool are open to letting him go. Apparently. According to this guy who knows stuff. I'd be amazed if they do let him go any time soon though.
― Chris, Thursday, 29 December 2011 23:08 (twelve years ago) link
rumours of trade or loan or sthing with bent
mcleish would literally kill for a player as bad, as wite and as rangy as wor andy
― Hongro4AS (nakhchivan), Thursday, 29 December 2011 23:10 (twelve years ago) link
A trusted source Chris? I remember you had one a while back, can't remember what the rumour was or if it paid off though.
They can't let him go though - it'd be too embarrassing. Where would he go but Newcastle anyway?
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 29 December 2011 23:16 (twelve years ago) link
Jeez, what wouldn't O'Neill give for him at Sunderland though?!
Different guy, but he seems pretty sound. He's on Twitter btw, just in case people think little me knows 'people'! But yeah, even if the club were willing to listen to offers, I can't see it happening. That would be pretty embarrassing.
― Chris, Thursday, 29 December 2011 23:26 (twelve years ago) link
the gap btwn acceptable loss for lfc and what any club would pay is too great
anyway, i also think he'll have a mini-run before the end of the year
― u know my homes' methods, plies them (p much resigned to deems), Friday, 30 December 2011 05:15 (twelve years ago) link
end of which year?
― big popppa hoy, Friday, 30 December 2011 06:22 (twelve years ago) link
so henry back at arsenal is a thing that is actually happening. Do you think Arsene ran this past RVP first?
― pandemic, Friday, 30 December 2011 10:38 (twelve years ago) link
needs to be managed delicately but i am looking forward to seeing him again
― Hongro4AS (nakhchivan), Friday, 30 December 2011 15:31 (twelve years ago) link
St. Mirren have the distinction of being the only club ever to sack Ferguson. He claimed wrongful dismissal against the club at an industrial tribunal but lost and was given no leave to appeal. According to a Billy Adams Sunday Herald article on 30 May 1999, the official version is that Ferguson was sacked for various breaches of contract including unauthorised payments to players.[24] He was counter-accused of intimidating behaviour towards his office secretary because he wanted players to get some expenses tax free. He didn't speak to her for six weeks, confiscated her keys and communicated only through a 17-year-old assistant. The tribunal concluded that Ferguson was "particularly petty" and "immature".[26] It was claimed during the tribunal by St. Mirren chairman, Willie Todd, that Ferguson had "no managerial ability".
― Hongro4AS (nakhchivan), Friday, 30 December 2011 16:17 (twelve years ago) link
Half otm
― u know my homes' methods, plies them (p much resigned to deems), Friday, 30 December 2011 18:31 (twelve years ago) link
I don't fancy this one much. Newcastle haven't fallen apart at the back, are patient and cagey when necessary, and offer enough up front - and Suarez is out - to suggest an 0-1 is entirely possible. I hope Bellamy is (a) playing and (b) given licence, else this might be grim.
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 30 December 2011 19:34 (twelve years ago) link