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He doesn't make the bench because he isn't actually any good.

Nearly every other result has gone our way over Christmas. Don't fuck this up Spurs.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 27 December 2011 19:26 (twelve years ago) link

He is good though. For Mexico

Number None, Tuesday, 27 December 2011 19:28 (twelve years ago) link

wow he has played 53 times for mexico at 22

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 27 December 2011 19:29 (twelve years ago) link

                                                 Apps 	Goals 	Assists
Racing Santander 2010–11 16 5 2

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 27 December 2011 19:31 (twelve years ago) link

that is pretty impressive for a 22 yr old in a primera liga team with fairly little attacking quality

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 27 December 2011 19:31 (twelve years ago) link

I've only ever seen him be ineffectual for Spurs.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 27 December 2011 19:38 (twelve years ago) link

since most of his scant playing time for spurs consists of sub appearances as a teenager under a manager who doesnt trust him, yeah

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 27 December 2011 19:42 (twelve years ago) link

im not saying he is amazing, it's more that redknapp doesn't use his squad properly

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 27 December 2011 19:44 (twelve years ago) link

seems like every EPL centre back thinks he's Alex now whenever there's a dead ball opportunity.

boxall, Tuesday, 27 December 2011 19:55 (twelve years ago) link

Hold on, Pienaar hasn't played all season? He's a known quantity, only a few months after you offered him £90,000 a week - that's *almost* as wasteful a signing as the January window had to offer imo.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 27 December 2011 19:58 (twelve years ago) link

hes been injured for some of that time but hes managed a few appearances in the cups, suggesting some sort of residual playing capacity

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 27 December 2011 20:01 (twelve years ago) link

that is former ailsa favourite danny fox rite

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 27 December 2011 20:03 (twelve years ago) link

Pienaar is very good yes and a much more mystifying omission and more deserving cause.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 27 December 2011 20:26 (twelve years ago) link

I don't like the stripes on Spurs shorts. Looks like they have suspender straps hanging down.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 27 December 2011 20:40 (twelve years ago) link

      Sandro

Dos Santos Pienaar Kranjcar

midfield unit that should get a runout at least 4/5 times a season tbh

twice banned gabbage is death (p much resigned to deems), Tuesday, 27 December 2011 20:41 (twelve years ago) link

lot of wasteful play out there today from modric/bale

twice banned gabbage is death (p much resigned to deems), Tuesday, 27 December 2011 20:41 (twelve years ago) link

it's playing vdv rw that fucks this formation, as well as modric being less efficient at am

a proper manager would play one of pienaar/kranjcar/rose/dos santos rw, or shifting bale there

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 27 December 2011 20:44 (twelve years ago) link

nice play there from adebayor and vdv

twice banned gabbage is death (p much resigned to deems), Tuesday, 27 December 2011 20:44 (twelve years ago) link

vdv could be ok on the right when walker overlaps tbh, if he'd stay out there

twice banned gabbage is death (p much resigned to deems), Tuesday, 27 December 2011 20:45 (twelve years ago) link

it's one of those fucking games where the ref will not get his fucking hole out the way of our passing lanes

twice banned gabbage is death (p much resigned to deems), Tuesday, 27 December 2011 20:46 (twelve years ago) link

that last clause is an impossible to imagine hypothetical though (xp)

boxall, Tuesday, 27 December 2011 20:47 (twelve years ago) link

yeah i'll admit that

corluka/walker right side imo

twice banned gabbage is death (p much resigned to deems), Tuesday, 27 December 2011 20:47 (twelve years ago) link

vdv is useless at rw cuz he is a total liability defensively and isn't very fast and always tries to cut inside

abd lo he was almost exactly in the middle of the pitch just outside the penalty area, ie his proper place, when he played the pass for ade

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 27 December 2011 20:48 (twelve years ago) link

walker rw would be worth trying vs a weak team too

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 27 December 2011 20:48 (twelve years ago) link

adebayor's pulled up there goes the season

twice banned gabbage is death (p much resigned to deems), Tuesday, 27 December 2011 20:48 (twelve years ago) link

was that ray wilkins' michael caine impersonation

twice banned gabbage is death (p much resigned to deems), Tuesday, 27 December 2011 20:49 (twelve years ago) link

urt iz bleedin buttock

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 27 December 2011 20:49 (twelve years ago) link

finish worthy of Walcott right there ...

boxall, Tuesday, 27 December 2011 20:52 (twelve years ago) link

it's time for defoe pav in a 352 imo

twice banned gabbage is death (p much resigned to deems), Tuesday, 27 December 2011 20:52 (twelve years ago) link

Grand, some saving grace in this week.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 27 December 2011 20:56 (twelve years ago) link

lovely

boxall, Tuesday, 27 December 2011 20:56 (twelve years ago) link

raaah

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 27 December 2011 20:57 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WY6BycKCD3M

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 27 December 2011 20:58 (twelve years ago) link

Good win for Spurs. Took the edge off Anderlecht conceding in the 84th minute to balls up a 30-1 accumulator.

If you did that to me in Turkey, i'd have to kill you (ShariVari), Tuesday, 27 December 2011 21:28 (twelve years ago) link

bale/modric/ade etc are awes to watch, especially enjoying kyle walker too atm

i guess their exhaustion-derived springtime slump will coincide nicely with redknapp's trial

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 27 December 2011 21:30 (twelve years ago) link

:(

how much did you have on it?

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 27 December 2011 21:30 (twelve years ago) link

Not very much. I only gamble for fun, really.

If you did that to me in Turkey, i'd have to kill you (ShariVari), Tuesday, 27 December 2011 21:31 (twelve years ago) link

never trust anderlecht

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 27 December 2011 21:32 (twelve years ago) link

I'm finding it difficult to pine for second-tier players when we're playing this well. Darragh OTM about Walker and Corluka on the right, would rather see Walker in more of an advanced role than any of the other options. Pienaar and Kranjcar are left-side cover really. We do seem freakishly left-heavy considering the paucity of real options on the right.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 27 December 2011 22:18 (twelve years ago) link

Anyway, three-horse race.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 27 December 2011 22:19 (twelve years ago) link

I dunno, I still feel it hasn't settled yet. You should be gutted if you're not top London club, but I wouldn't quite count it out. Spurs can't get much better I feel, whereas Chelsea obviously can.

Was going to add that you should be disappointed not to finish above Utd tbh, but who knows how they're going to go from here. It must be a little devastating to City's fans at least to have them right on their shoulder after all that's happened so far.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 27 December 2011 22:35 (twelve years ago) link

I don't think Man City fans have quite grown into that "entitled, big club" mentality yet so none of the ones I know seem all that devastated by only being top on goal difference.

And yeah, while Spurs should certainly feel like third is for the taking, actually challenging for the title? Umm....

N1ck, Tuesday, 27 December 2011 22:41 (twelve years ago) link

Is it possible to slide tackle without endangering the safety of an opponent?

Chris, Tuesday, 27 December 2011 22:55 (twelve years ago) link

Indeed there is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqdxGI91Rbk

It's all about the instep.

Chris, Tuesday, 27 December 2011 23:02 (twelve years ago) link

why have I just watched that

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 27 December 2011 23:43 (twelve years ago) link

wasn't all required viewing sorry, just the lace/inside of the foot bit at 2:50. i was thinking about slide tackles after that milijas red card. don't think i was ever actually coached how to do slide properly.

anyway, that milijas foul was a red all day obviously.

Chris, Tuesday, 27 December 2011 23:51 (twelve years ago) link

Not your fault at all, I had ample warning during the first 2:30 of what trousers to choose. It's quite a nice video in its way and I'm glad they're teaching it, it's just that the potential for use in my life is slim.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 27 December 2011 23:55 (twelve years ago) link

And yeah, while Spurs should certainly feel like third is for the taking, actually challenging for the title?

i don't feel any such thing tbh, still reckon that the away games at the other cl runners will see us pushed hard for 4th by the other london teams

twice banned gabbage is death (p much resigned to deems), Wednesday, 28 December 2011 00:58 (twelve years ago) link

And one question in particular irks Dalglish - a question he was again asked in the aftermath of another unfulfilling afternoon for £35m striker Andy Carroll. He may not like the question, but it will not go away until the giant Geordie at least hints at riches - not to mention value for money - to come.

nakhchivan, Wednesday, 28 December 2011 04:14 (twelve years ago) link


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