The sort-of-new Scottish Football thread pt 2 and a half

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(not that I want us to sign Christian Dailly either, but there were rumours about it a while back and it would make more sense)

ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Friday, 29 December 2006 16:46 (seventeen years ago) link

bloody stealing OUR players now... :-(

this china captain had better be good

Comrades, meet Tildo Durd (Scourage), Friday, 29 December 2006 16:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Rumours I've heard so far about possible Celtic signings: Anthony Stokes, Steven Naismith, about half the Hibs team, Russell Anderson (yes please!), Andy Webster (ditto). I don't pay much attention to Rangers waffling, but I think their list is pretty much the same.

ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Friday, 29 December 2006 16:54 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost to Louis - he'd better be better than his predecessor as China captain, the somewhat-less-than-marvellous Du Wei.

At least no-one seems to be getting their knickers in a twist about the fact that Pressley used to play for Rangers.

ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Friday, 29 December 2006 16:58 (seventeen years ago) link

The beeb waited 2 whole sentences before mentioning it.

On reflection... Pressley = fucking dud. Seriously. Wins less headers than he used to, can't run, continually pulls jerseys in the box.

I'd rather have Bobo hopping.

(I'm out with my dad for a drink tomorrow so I won't be meeting you for teh game btw)

Onimo drank ALL the wine! (nu_onimo), Friday, 29 December 2006 17:42 (seventeen years ago) link

How would you rate Anthony Stokes? I haven't seen him at all.

pfunkboy (Kerr), Friday, 29 December 2006 18:04 (seventeen years ago) link

His record is excellent - top scorer in the SPL despite playing for a team in the bottom half. 13 goals in 17 games. Looks a natural finisher and has a bit of pace.

Not much of a centre half though :-P

Onimo drank ALL the wine! (nu_onimo), Friday, 29 December 2006 18:17 (seventeen years ago) link

It's worth bearing in mind though that 6 of his goals came against Dunfermline who remain shite and Dundee Utd who were shite at the time.

Onimo drank ALL the wine! (nu_onimo), Friday, 29 December 2006 18:18 (seventeen years ago) link

mentioning it /= making a big deal of it. Won't stop Mr Wm Hill making a few bob off people sticking money on him scoring in the Old Firm game, mind you.

Anthony Stokes has scored a fair few goals (one against us that took Falkirk to penalties against us in the CIS Cup), and got Neil Lennon sent off last week. Don't suppose he's endearing himself to the Celtic support much. He looks a pretty good player. Then again, so did Derek Riordan, so again, I'm not convinced Celtic need him or that he'll be great if he gets there.

xpost!

(Onimo, no bother, just if you were around - I'll see you on Tuesday)

ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Friday, 29 December 2006 18:21 (seventeen years ago) link

What are Pressley's wages going to be in relation to what we could have offered to a decent centre-half who *could* play in the Champions League, btw?

ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Friday, 29 December 2006 18:27 (seventeen years ago) link

He was reportedly on ~£5k a week at Hearts.

Onimo drank ALL the wine! (nu_onimo), Friday, 29 December 2006 19:03 (seventeen years ago) link

I think Pressley's versatile enough though that he could slot into midfield instead of the turgid Lennon, and he's still pretty solid as a centre-half (despite not being as pacey as he once was). Strachan made a good point at the press conference as well about how he's someone for Celtic's young centre-halfs (halves?) to look up to and learn from - maybe that's the real key. Has Celtic's defence been missing a stalwart for the last couple of seasons?

(Scotstvo seems not to think it's a bad idea, so I don't think you can classify "actual Celtic supporters" as some sort of hivemind)

I'm an actual Celtic supporter in the haven't-actually-been-to-a-match-since-the-late-nineties mould, so I don't know if I'd include myself in that :D.

Dalzinho (Dalzinho), Friday, 29 December 2006 22:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I think Pressley's versatile enough though that he could slot into midfield instead of the turgid Lennon

Are you on crack?

ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Saturday, 30 December 2006 19:21 (seventeen years ago) link

btw, teh Beeb are being a bit tardy with their updates today. I should have put a joker on my weekly Rangers 1-1 prediction :-/

ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Saturday, 30 December 2006 19:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Talking of statements only made whilst under the influence of drugs, reading something somewhere else made me wonder as to the fitness of Adam (remember him?) Virgo.

Also, how shite must Alan Thompson be to not get on that bench today?

ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Saturday, 30 December 2006 20:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Re. rumoured signings, I forgot about Gary O'Connor and David Beckham.

ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Saturday, 30 December 2006 20:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Blimey. I was teh 20th best person in teh world in December. If I'd known that, I might have tried a bit harder and chucked in a couple of jokers too. Bloody Celtic and their leaky defence and no strikers put paid to my wee goody bag :-/

ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Saturday, 30 December 2006 22:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Gordon Strachan: bawbag

Apparently as I don't have Celtic TV and missed Friday's press conference I'm not a Celtic fan.

Onimo drank ALL the wine! (nu_onimo), Sunday, 31 December 2006 12:15 (seventeen years ago) link

That link doesn't work, and I can't find the interview anywhere :-(

I'm not a real Celtic fan either, apparently. The £400 I spend on my season ticket, £84 (and counting) on Champs League tickets plus sundry other expenses (not to mention being one of only about 20,000 sad enough to pay £12 to watch a half-arsed attempt at not getting knocked out of the CIS Cup by Falkirk on the coldest Tuesday night ever), etc etc, means nothing when you realise that I only heard about this little outburst from a Hibs fan.

ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Sunday, 31 December 2006 13:57 (seventeen years ago) link

What did he say?

pfunkboy (Kerr), Sunday, 31 December 2006 14:01 (seventeen years ago) link

People who don't have Celtic TV are not real Celtic fans. Like what Onimo said two posts ago. He refused to talk about why he signed Steven Pressley as well, I think, on the grounds that he gave an interview to Celtic TV / Setanta about it so if you were a proper Celtic fan you'd have known because you were watching that. Anything other than that, I have no clue, not having heard it.

ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Sunday, 31 December 2006 14:09 (seventeen years ago) link

What a dick.

pfunkboy (Kerr), Sunday, 31 December 2006 14:16 (seventeen years ago) link

As I say, I haven't heard it, so have no idea if he was being dickish, making an ill-advised attempt at joking, whatever. I get the impression from others that he was being a bit of a twunt though. Interesting that when Mad Vlad goes off on one it's all "hahaha, he's brilliant and funny and mad and a breath of fresh air" but when Gogs goes off on one, it's all "bawbag, dick" etc.

ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Sunday, 31 December 2006 14:24 (seventeen years ago) link

(not that interesting, mind you, since I've mostly qualified my roffling at Vlad with "I doubt I'd be laughing if it was my team he was fucking with", Aldo is a Hibs fan therefore allowed to laugh at Vlad (and also appears to find WGS' outpourings hilarious too), and I'm pretty sure Onimo and Scotstvo have also said things along the lines of Vlad being funny from a distance when you aren't involved)

ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Sunday, 31 December 2006 14:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I heard it and I think WGS has got a bit of a bad rap from it. The interviewer started off asking about Pressley and Gordon said he'd rather not talk about anything other than the game, but the interviewer went on regardless. Strachan said that he had been on Celtic TV and was all over the Saturday papers, so if anyone was still in the dark about it then maybe they're not really Celtic fans.

Maybe not the best-advised comment he's ever made, but this was after having told the interviewer twice that he wasn't prepared to talk about anything other than the game. It was a total throwaway line that's been blown out of proportion.

Dalzinho (Dalzinho), Sunday, 31 December 2006 16:08 (seventeen years ago) link

It seems you can hear it on the BBC's football podcast.

Dalzinho (Dalzinho), Sunday, 31 December 2006 16:10 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm pretty sure Strachan was just pissed at the way the team ( and by team I mean Paul "brother-in-law" Telfer) had just dropped another 2pts esp. in the 92nd minute. Think the point he was trying to make, albeit badly was that he'd answered the press' questions on Pressley the day before and they'd already been widely reported in the papers and on the various tv stations= no point in repeating yourself.

Sycophancy aside, I'm in no way related to GS (otherwise you'd be seeing me up front against Kilmarnock). Just thought I'd add a different opinion on it.

Still, managing to INCREASE our lead after that display at least managed to shut Shug et al up.

JohnFoxxsJuno (JohnFoxxsJuno), Sunday, 31 December 2006 16:18 (seventeen years ago) link

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/celtic/6219351.stm

The interview is linked from here ^^

I stand by "bawbag"

Onimo drank ALL the wine! (nu_onimo), Sunday, 31 December 2006 16:23 (seventeen years ago) link

King Barry is dead, long live King Barry

Dalzinho (Dalzinho), Monday, 1 January 2007 15:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Just heard about that from a Rangers supporting friend of mine.
Everyone's going to take Barry's side over Le Goon.

pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 1 January 2007 16:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Everyone? The guy's a wee fanny.

ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Monday, 1 January 2007 16:04 (seventeen years ago) link

(Ferguson, that is)

ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Monday, 1 January 2007 16:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, but "he's a Rangers man" .

pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 1 January 2007 16:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Come on, Rangers are absolutely rotten, Ferguson's playing pish, why shouldn't Le Guen tell him to get knotted?

ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Monday, 1 January 2007 16:09 (seventeen years ago) link


Methinks PLG has worked out his own exit strategy.

JohnFoxxsJuno (JohnFoxxsJuno), Monday, 1 January 2007 21:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Hehehe, Gavin Rae (!) is the new captain. PLG's really trying to prove a point with his "captaincy doesn't really matter" argument, isn't he?

ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 12:41 (seventeen years ago) link

The point is that he knows it matters to Ferguson. If it doesn't matter to PLG there's no need to change captains other than to publicly rebuke Ferguson.

I'm no fan of Ferguson but this really isn't a million miles away from what happened to Pressley, and most people think he was treated unfairly.

Murray must be wondering whether his club captain and arguably his best player is more valuable to Rangers than a failing faltering manager who puts absolutely no value on captaining Rangers.

Onimo drank ALL the wine! (nu_onimo), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 12:47 (seventeen years ago) link

I think PLG has lost the plot.

pfunkboy (Kerr), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 13:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Murray must be wondering whether his club captain and arguably his best player is more valuable to Rangers than a failing faltering manager who puts absolutely no value on captaining Rangers.

This is it, isn't it? 'Barry Ferguson won't play for Rangers again under the current manager' is what they're saying all over the press, but you get the feeling that perhaps the current manager's the variable factor in that.

Dalzinho (Dalzinho), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 14:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Was just listening to Paul Le Guen on the radio just now and he pretty much said his problem is that Barry Ferguson thinks his (Ferguson's) role is more important than it actually is. It's basically a boss saying "I'm the boss here", which seems fair enough. Ferguson has apparently been critical of decisions, over-ruling team talks and, according to some reports, organised a Christmas night out for the players when Le Guen told him not to.

If Murray decides that holding onto arguably the only player he has that's worth a bit of dosh (though only Ferguson's agent seems to be convinced of this) is more important than holding onto his manager - a view that the Radio Clyde panel seem to hold - then what sort of precedent does that set? One player actually *is* capable of holding the club to ransom? Pressley tried it and got booted (though his more valuable partners-in-crime seem to have got away with it), so why should Ferguson be any different?

I really REALLY wish someone had asked Gavin Rae if he feels he's stabbed Barry Ferguson in the back by accepting the captaincy after contributing bugger all to Rangers.

ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 18:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Who would buy Ferguson though?
Martin O'Neill at villa?

pfunkboy (Kerr), Tuesday, 2 January 2007 23:00 (seventeen years ago) link

As I said already...

arguably the only player he has that's worth a bit of dosh (though only Ferguson's agent seems to be convinced of this)

Ferguson, *if* he goes, will go to a struggling Premiership team or a Championship team with ambitions. He's not a bad player, but he's pretty much found his level, having already scuttled back from the Premiership with his tail between his legs. Someone like a Cardiff or a WBA or a Wolves would take him, I'm sure.

ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 00:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Forgot to mention, not that it needed saying, Steven Pressley was several different kinds of pish. Then got the Man of the Match award. There was actually an audible "pppppfffffffftttttttt" sound from around the stadium, which was kind of nice.

ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 00:34 (seventeen years ago) link

rofl at BBC's choice of pics for the Bazza fiasco

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42407000/jpg/_42407077_leguenferguson203.jpg

Onimo drank ALL the wine! (nu_onimo), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 10:37 (seventeen years ago) link


PLG gone by "mutual agreement" confirmed on Sky. I take it Chairman Murray is picking the side now. Pretty dissapointed with this to be honest, as they'll struggle to get anyone as poor in next time - my money is on Billy Davies or Torn-faced Jeffries.

JohnFoxxsJuno (JohnFoxxsJuno), Thursday, 4 January 2007 14:52 (seventeen years ago) link

We've got a thread back on real ILX about it. Come back to the real world and join us!

http://ilx.wh3rd.net/thread.php?msgid=7488118#unread

ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Thursday, 4 January 2007 15:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Who needs the real world!

pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 4 January 2007 21:05 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...
Dougie McDonald is the worst referee ever, and I speak as someone who has seen Craig Thomson and Alan Freeland and Stuart Dougal in action this season, and remembers the glory days of David Syme, Les Mottram, Willie Young et al.

Also, I heart Lee Naylor. I want that on record here too.

ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Sunday, 11 February 2007 23:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Aye I spent the game going "that wasn't a foul" "that was never a penalty" "that was never off side" "that wasn't a penalty either" "handball!" etc until I realised it would be easier to point out the decisions he got right.

onimo (nu_onimo), Monday, 12 February 2007 12:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Did you find any?

ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Monday, 12 February 2007 13:00 (seventeen years ago) link


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