rolling rap thread

Sorry for the data dump, but I thought this might be of interest. Looks like every non-catalog rap album that sold at least 279 copies last week with sales stats.

6 UNCM 1 1 1 DRAKE TAKE CARE 76,506 5 73,154 1,044,066
26 AAM 2 3 2 LMFAO SORRY FOR PARTY ROCKING 40,276 42 28,278 400,515
1 ATLG 3 SNOOP DOGG & WIZ KHALIFA MAC & DEVIN GO TO HIGH SCHOOL 38,456 999 104 38,560
17 UNCM 3 4 4 LIL' WAYNE THA CARTER IV 28,792 31 22,034 1,826,435
19 DEF 4 5 5 JAY Z & KANYE WEST WATCH THE THRONE 22,428 14 19,745 1,166,102
2 ISL 2 6 ROOTS UNDUN 18,286 -62 48,189 66,694
13 COL 7 6 7 J COLE COLE WORLD: THE SIDELINE STORY 13,856 8 12,793 463,410
57 UNCM 9 8 8 MINAJ*NICKI PINK FRIDAY 12,674 24 10,236 1,695,730
7 WAR 5 7 9 WALE AMBITION 12,584 10 11,411 293,241
7 RTUM 10 9 10 MILLER*MAC BLUE SLIDE PARK 10,455 19 8,817 213,517
26 RCA 12 14 11 PITBULL PLANET PIT 7,678 29 5,967 285,960
28 INT 14 13 12 BAD MEETS EVIL HELL: THE SEQUEL 7,291 17 6,208 641,202
5 INT 6 10 13 YELAWOLF RADIOACTIVE 7,183 -14 8,383 68,968
5 GLSN 13 12 14 CHILDISH GAMBINO CAMP 5,461 -12 6,220 83,367
39 ATLG 19 16 15 WIZ KHALIFA ROLLING PAPERS 5,243 22 4,296 630,520
1 WAR 16 GUCCI MANE & V-NASTY BAYTL 4,419 999 30 4,449
25 DEF 18 18 17 BIG SEAN FINALLY FAMOUS 4,261 18 3,620 278,329
5 TRLE 15 15 18 WEBBIE SAVAGE LIFE 3 3,846 -12 4,367 53,071
64 RCHZ 26 20 19 LECRAE REHAB 3,146 37 2,289 135,605
6 SMIF 20 19 20 TECH N9NE COLLABOS WELCOME TO STRANGELAND 2,688 2 2,629 46,718
5 FUER 22 21 21 GYM CLASS HEROES PAPERCUT CHRONICLES II 2,618 17 2,229 22,990
32 UNIV 29 28 22 LONELY ISLAND TURTLENECK & CHAIN 2,370 30 1,821 206,189
57 DEF 24 24 23 WEST*KANYE MY BEAUTIFUL DARK TWISTED FANT 2,303 13 2,031 1,229,264
33 XLXL 31 27 24 TYLER THE CREATOR GOBLIN 2,272 21 1,876 152,147
30 WAR 27 26 25 VARIOUS . MMG PRESENTS: SELF MADE,V1 2,205 15 1,924 192,926
41 ATLG 28 25 26 FIASCO*LUPE LASERS 2,185 13 1,932 484,730
18 GEFN 23 22 27 GAME RED ALBUM 2,118 -1 2,139 222,012
33 AVGJ 36 32 28 FORD*COLT EVERY CHANCE I GET 2,047 44 1,419 122,712
28 SMIF 32 31 29 TECH N9NE ALL 6'S & 7'S 1,797 26 1,429 166,440
64 UNCM 38 30 29 LIL' WAYNE I AM NOT A HUMAN BEING 1,797 25 1,434 980,252
59 UNIV 33 34 31 KID CUDI MAN ON THE MOON 2: THE LEGEND 1,792 28 1,399 476,510
56 INT 34 33 32 YELAWOLF TRUNK MUZIK 0-60 1,670 18 1,417 85,251
75 DEF 30 29 33 ROSS*RICK TEFLON DON 1,628 13 1,436 691,779
54 ATLG 41 35 34 T.I. NO MERCY 1,597 21 1,319 551,557
34 CAP 44 41 35 BEASTIE BOYS HOT SAUCE COMMITTEE PT. 2 1,584 50 1,053 332,603
56 DEF 42 42 36 JAY-Z HITS COLLECTION 1,308 32 989 183,547
1 DEF 37 YOUNG JEEZY TM 103: HUSTLER AMBITION 1,212 0 1,228
19 ISL 39 39 38 ACE HOOD BLOOD SWEAT & TEARS 1,198 6 1,133 77,288
22 UNCM 37 40 39 DJ KHALED WE THE BEST FOREVER 1,183 8 1,099 143,286
63 WAR 43 43 40 WAKA FLOCKA FLAME FLOCKAVELI 1,157 27 913 309,773
12 RCHZ 46 44 41 116 MAN UP 1,082 28 847 14,616
6 DCON 35 37 42 PUSHA T FEAR OF GOD 2:LET US PRAY 1,077 -9 1,187 19,092
4 IFMR 25 38 43 MOBB DEEP BLACK COCAINE EP 1,047 -9 1,145 8,633
3 HOMG 8 23 44 WEBBY*CHRIS THERE GOES THE NEIGHBORHOOD EP 1,034 -50 2,051 12,641
19 WAR 45 45 45 GUCCI MANE & WAKA FLOCKA FLAME 1017 BRICKSQUAD PRESENTS FERRA 1,011 20 840 53,687
1 SIEN 46 COSCULLUELA EL NINO 996 999 6 1,002
3 IHI 17 36 47 JET LIFE JET WORLD ORDER 963 -24 1,259 6,469
43 SIEN 40 46 48 TITO EL BAMBINO INVENCIBLE 940 13 829 41,851
7 PSO 47 49 49 INSANE CLOWN POSSE FEATURING FRESHN(EX) 915 15 795 9,191
25 TDWG 57 55 50 LAMAR*KENDRICK SECTION.80 889 45 612 28,349
1 EOM 51 NAUGHTY BY NATURE ANTHEM INC. 816 999 17 834
56 MCHT 50 56 52 OMAR*DON DON OMAR PRESENTS: MEET THE OR 794 30 611 97,273
22 AVGJ 53 50 53 MUD DIGGER VOL. 2-MUD DIGGER 786 9 721 30,358
44 AVGJ 61 53 54 LACS COUNTRY BOY'S PARADISE 734 15 641 33,400
1 COL 55 MILLS*T. LEAVING HOME EP 699 0 699
79 ISL 52 47 56 ROOTS HOW I GOT OVER 694 -16 826 212,246
1 INGV 57 CROOKED I IN NONE WE TRUST - THE PRELUDE 689 0 689
12 AARX 56 54 58 COOLIO GREATEST HITS & REMIXES 685 10 621 7,966
10 EOM 48 52 59 DJ DRAMA THIRD POWER 677 4 652 25,448
31 WAR 60 60 60 NEW BOYZ TOO COOL TO CARE 672 23 546 48,062
72 AVGJ 64 62 61 VARIOUS MUD DIGGER 670 35 495 44,445
50 RECH 71 68 62 LECRAE REHAB: THE OVERDOSE 668 53 438 55,863
38 RTUM 53 57 63 MILLER*MAC ON AND ON AND BEYOND - EP 630 9 580 65,907
19 GCIE 58 61 64 ROYCE DA 5'9 SUCCESS IS CERTAIN 621 18 528 37,171
11 EOM 49 59 65 STYLES P MASTER OF CEREMONIES 610 11 551 27,951
3 SUBP 83 75 66 SHABAZZ PALACES BLACK UP 606 62 375 15,373
25 WAR 55 70 67 CURREN$Y WEEKEND AT BURNIES 583 35 432 54,025
57 UNIV 72 63 68 NELLY 5.0 541 17 461 299,940
1 DOMT 69 DESSA CASTOR THE TWIN 530 235 158 4,836
31 CAP 21 48 70 TINIE TEMPAH DISC-OVERY 509 -37 809 64,689
59 SML 67 65 71 PITBULL ARMANDO 503 12 451 75,355
6 SML 59 64 72 CALLE 13 ENTREN LOS QUE QUIERAN 481 6 452 24,665
47 MCHT 69 69 73 WISIN & YANDEL LOS VAQUEROS: EL REGRESO 468 8 435 121,561
12 HBD 68 73 74 PHONTE CHARITY STARTS AT HOME 454 12 406 17,310
4 DOMT 51 58 75 DOOMTREE NO KINGS 436 -21 555 5,249
36 RHMS 85 90 76 ATMOSPHERE FAMILY SIGN 430 51 284 67,102
13 RAPA 70 71 77 Z-RO METH 428 0 426 16,700
39 WAR 66 66 78 GUCCI MANE RETURN OF MR. ZONE 6 424 -6 450 84,999
40 INT 88 80 79 BARKER*TRAVIS GIVE THE DRUMMER SOME 411 22 338 85,293
62 INT 79 79 80 FAR EAST MOVEMENT FREE WIRED 408 19 342 166,460
64 WAR 82 86 81 LIL BOOSIE INCARCERATED 397 32 301 112,784
57 D172 73 77 82 CURREN$Y PILOT TALK II (EX) 395 14 345 58,349
1 EOM 83 DORROUGH MUSIC DORROUGH MUSIC GANGSTA GRILLZ: 389 0 390
4 STB 62 81 84 M.O.P. SPARTA 382 16 328 2,580
38 CAP 93 72 85 SNOOP DOGG DOGGUMENTARY 371 -12 420 114,513
14 220E 78 84 86 DA TRUTH WHOLE TRUTH 367 21 303 9,890
1 PYPT 87 THEBREAX NEVER ARRIVE 365 0 365
12 RHMS 90 66 88 EVIDENCE CATS & DOGS 362 -20 450 14,100
30 RCHZ 89 93 89 TEDASHII BLACKLIGHT 360 31 274 24,992
3 ATLG 95 87 90 FLO RIDA ONLY ONE FLO [PART 1] 357 20 297 57,667
2 RAPA 51 91 VARIOUS RAP-A-LOT 25TH ANNIVERSARY 351 -47 666 1,017
58 WAR 81 84 92 LIL BOOSIE/WEBBIE/LIL TRIL ALL OR NOTHING 344 14 303 70,006
14 GRDH 75 76 93 DAS RACIST RELAX 328 -9 359 12,430
1 SPHX 94 CALI SWAG DISTRICT KICKBACK 319 80 177 10,590
3 RCA 99 94 95 RUN-DMC S.O.U.L.: RUN DMC 316 18 267 15,484
5 NZE 84 96 KOTTONMOUTH KINGS HIDDEN STASH 5-BONG LOADS & B- 312 41 221 3,025
12 TFOD 92 77 97 9TH WONDER WONDER YEARS 296 -14 345 12,870
8 EMYS 75 82 98 JEDI MIND TRICKS VIOLENCE BEGETS VIOLENCE 290 -11 326 8,731
46 CSRZ 74 99 FLAME CAPTURED 283 -27 386 16,656
54 GU1 91 99 100 BANKS*LLOYD H.F.M.2 (HUNGER FOR MORE 2) 279 23 227 126,959

2 RAPA 51 91 VARIOUS RAP-A-LOT 25TH ANNIVERSARY 351 -47 666 1,017

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64 WAR 82 86 81 LIL BOOSIE INCARCERATED 397 32 301 112,784
57 D172 73 77 82 CURREN$Y PILOT TALK II (EX) 395 14 345 58,349

guys "Motto" is so fucking terrible. it's like oh, you figured if Drake did something kind of light and uptempo it might stab through the haze of his aesthetic and be actually fun? nope the joyless tryhard aura just feels even more pronounced.

i think tyga is my favourite verse on that

stop

out of this world

total recall

imo past year drake & weezy went from writing verses that elicit often painfully awkward, visceral responses to the arguably worse mode of making music that is literally humanly impossible to remember

guys "Motto" is so fucking terrible. it's like oh, you figured if Drake did something kind of light and uptempo it might stab through the haze of his aesthetic and be actually fun? nope the joyless tryhard aura just feels even more pronounced.

― some dude (Mr. Stevenson #2), Saturday, December 24, 2011 11:18 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Permalink

you are p much at a lexian level of not allowing yourself to like anything drake afai can tell. shit is just catchy & unique

the new young l tape is really good. he's stepped up his rapping quite a bit and the beats are great and there aren't any out-of-character pop-rap diversions.

oh damn

link?

http://www.mediafire.com/?codg6ox4ybk728j

thank u based furnace

wait is this the one where every song samples imogen heap

no. i didn't even hear about that. just about every song samples that lil jon "who you wit "I" sound tho

every song samples imogen heap sounds more like clammy clams

"arcade pussy" = young l song titles very much in character

every song samples imogen heap sounds more like clammy clams

― fireman princess (furnace mane), Sunday, December 25, 2011 11:36 AM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark

yeah i think this was basically it

i have trouble believing young L has stepped up his rapping enough for it to be a tolerable project frankly

he should stick to producing SL Jones

young L has always been pretty dope

imo he's been slightly overrated online b/c his shit sounds kind of Wire mag-ish but he is dope & in the real world is underrated so im not mad about it. but he's still a nonentity as a rapper

every song samples imogen heap sounds more like clammy clams

― fireman princess (furnace mane), Sunday, December 25, 2011 11:36 AM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark

yeah i think this was basically it

― How many days after a period? Started by Tuomas in December 2011 (v-shasty), Sunday, 25 December 2011 17:47 (5 hours ago) Bookmark

Nope http://www.thefader.com/2011/08/08/young-ls-as-i-float-the-great-john-nash-mixtape/

lol at imogen heap's based goddess status. and yeah deej, he did step it way up. and even his stuff before where he was rapping pretty poorly is way more memorable than that sl jones joint which has kinda slipped out of my mind.

even if the domo-kun mixtape is a chore to get through and i had to wrap my head around his weird anti-flow, i find myself bumping to "pound" and "loud pockets" and "overdrive" all the time and stopped listening to the slj track after a few days or whatever

the anti-flow is way toned down on this new tape tho. it's still there enough to be distinctively him but it's incorporated into a more regular rapping style. and i'm glad he's both developing and keeping a distinctive approach

lol at imogen heap's based goddess status. and yeah deej, he did step it way up. and even his stuff before where he was rapping pretty poorly is way more memorable than that sl jones joint which has kinda slipped out of my mind.

― fireman princess (furnace mane), Sunday, December 25, 2011 5:36 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

man i completely disagree that L's earlier stuff was more memorable. SL Jones is like 100x better rapper.

young l's were like a notch above beat tape (i still have to hear the new one )

im unsure whether or not young l's young l music is worth listening to: does the initial awesome reaction to the beat propel you through the next 3 minutes of grating, repetitive rapping? i rarely make it through an entire song & just end up sampling each beat on his tapes

this is prob a big challop but i prefer clams casino

okay that's retarded

also young l's rapping is fine! it's rarely great but it's often kinda fun

i put that too harshly, i like young l i'm just often reluctant to listen to him for that reason. i think the knowledge of "what could have been" plays into it, too. its not like he has some big hilarious idiot persona like soulja boy, just a guy whos always rapping on his beats

im just really tired of production-driven rapping. if you can't make a good song out of it i dont care how next level the beats are

i don't even mean the rapper has to be 'skilled' or charismatic, i just mean that the song needs to be dope & so far I've heard a lot more dope beats than dope songs from L

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7c0U5zLnefQ

jamming this out

the rest of the tape isnt my thing sans 2-3 tracks but this jams

im just really tired of production-driven rapping. if you can't make a good song out of it i dont care how next level the beats are

― joey joe joe junior shabadoo, Monday, December 26, 2011 12:13 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark

yeah, well i'm a total beat nerd so

some of his songs are dope as fuck tho

and even if his rapping's improved, it's still not like it's the attraction and it never will be for him, so maybe it's just not for you/ i love it tho.

this is cool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVgCJ98yiGo

pastor troy vibe

this is a great read : http://thequietus.com/articles/07634-nice-and-smooth

what do you all think of the touré NYT piece?

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/25/arts/music/white-female-rappers-challenging-hip-hops-masculine-ideal.html

it's...there's just a lot wrong there, surely. it's very simplistic. tying hip-hop so essentially to masculinity seems totally wrong.

and i don't think slapping the label "white" on a white australian and a russian jew is that helpful (why are people so reluctant to address kreayshawn's race?)

k.flay is not awful but kinda boring btw and i'm surprised people are taking notice of her

hmm yeah definitely some wrong in that piece. I don't think emphasizing hip-hop's masculinity-obsession is the main problem tho. The writing is just sort of sub-standard and not insightful imho. The Beyonce line is very wtf, and I don't agree re: Kreayshawn at all, and then there's this paragraph, which is just embarassing:

More skilled and perhaps more interesting is K.Flay, 26, a Stanford graduate and a talented vocalist who uses rhyming as a sonic technique. Culturally she is not trying to push her way into hip-hop; she’s more of an indie rock chick. Her rapping is melodic and semi-sung, and on her most recent mixtape, “I Stopped Caring in ’96,” she samples indie groups like the xx and the Vines and talks about alienation

"rhyming as a sonic technique" I mean come on now

I did dig that N&C article tho, thx for the link sil

i mean i don't think anyone would deny that hip-hop is male-coded, has been male-dominated, and it won't stop being weighted towards dudes any time soon, but to say that it's essentially about masculinity is what seems o_0

failing to address the history of white female rappers who haven't come across as paltrow-style jokes (which i think even paltrow was aware of!) is a bit of an oversight too.

also i think kreayshawn has worked very hard at establishing hip-hop cred!

the paragraph about labelism is half a good point but i'm not sure that labelism is a thing that needs to be defended in such strong terms. the history of hip-hop is as peppered with anti-labelism as brands brands brands.

class unaddressed too?! like, isn't a reason that eminem and yelawolf are accepted their poor backgrounds (cf the obviously privileged middle-class fratboyisms of asher roth and mac miller). kreayshawn and v-nasty don't actually seem particularly privileged to me.

also i think kreayshawn has worked very hard at establishing hip-hop cred!

yeah - agree about this and about the class aspect too. like part of the reason Paltrow et al look ridiculous is due to class, it's not just gender and race.

failing to address the history of white female rappers who haven't come across as paltrow-style jokes (which i think even paltrow was aware of!) is a bit of an oversight too.

who are you thinking of here, Luscious Jackson?

i wasn't but yeah! luscious jackson, tairrie b, princess superstar, lady sovereign, there are probably more.

(i don't know much about tairrie b myself, only read about her)

I think it's still a pretty narrow sample size... Princess Superstar and Lady Sovereign are non-entities over here (and Toure didn't seem interested in engaging with UK hip hop or how it would figure in at all - probably just would have muddied the waters since class/race issues are so different between the US & UK)