I am sworn to carry your burdens - Skyrimming for fun and profit

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Xmas eve skyrim update: got a dog. Barks a lot. Has questionable paw/ground interface. Defends me with gusto but otoh just another AI - artificial imbecile - that gets in the way in narrow corridors. Also got amazing new house in Markarth. Spent five minutes trying to get the dog to sit in front of the fire instead of the middle of the room.

ledge, Saturday, 24 December 2011 12:52 (twelve years ago) link

Strange things were afoot in Skyrim over the christmas period. Was just wandering around Markarth minding my own business when I was suddenly surrounded by a whirl of glowing light and i was told that I'd absorbed a dragon's soul. A couple of days later - perhaps it had been there a while - I found a dead dragon in the marketplace. Unlike dragons I'd killed it hadn't burnt itself to a cinder, was just lying there all fat and scaly. Later on, on a trip to Riften I had to fight a dragon outside the city walls. I put the beast to the sword, then turned around to find Lydia and my dog beating the shit out of a horse.

ledge, Monday, 26 December 2011 11:21 (twelve years ago) link

so after the main quest is finished (whatever that is), I can still go around and do other stuff, right?

calstars, Tuesday, 27 December 2011 13:52 (twelve years ago) link

Yup

Zora DB, Wednesday, 28 December 2011 18:19 (twelve years ago) link

an impromptu extra day off due to car trouble turned into an embarrassingly long marathon stint yesterday. i ended up doing basically the whole thieves' guild questline. and hit 100 sneak!

a cool story imo but similar to the companions in that the final stretch involves a pretty creepy mystical element. idk, it's fantasy i guess...

slandblox goole, Wednesday, 28 December 2011 18:29 (twelve years ago) link

*very minor spoiler*

i wish i could take back the Companions mission where you get the werewolf skill. i never, ever use it, and now i can never be fully rested again?

Z S, Wednesday, 28 December 2011 18:33 (twelve years ago) link

Can you not get cured?

If you did that to me in Turkey, i'd have to kill you (ShariVari), Wednesday, 28 December 2011 18:35 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.gamefront.com/skyrim-how-to-cure-being-a-werewolf/

polyphonic, Wednesday, 28 December 2011 18:36 (twelve years ago) link

this game is good but man, i am tired of having to look up stuff on the internet re: completion of quests thx to bugs/haphazard notifications. case in point, the galdurs amulet thing where you get the three pieces and then uh.

also this dog needs to stfu

PROVEN BY BOOZE SCIENCE, Wednesday, 28 December 2011 18:36 (twelve years ago) link

oh, you can just cure it? i don't know, several times i've had all status effects removed, and yet whenever i sleep it's like "YOU HAVE WEREWOLF BLOOD NOW, FUCK YOU!"

i'll try polyphonic's link when i get home (pretty much all game-related sites are blocked at work)

Z S, Wednesday, 28 December 2011 18:41 (twelve years ago) link

there is a way to get out of it but it's not scripted very well. i can just spoil it for you here if you don't want to wait

slandblox goole, Wednesday, 28 December 2011 19:14 (twelve years ago) link

also i cant seem to really marathon this that much, i can basically run a dungeon, load up, dump the stuff in my chest at the mages guild, and then its really hard to roll out and do it all over again right away.

also i think i kind of dislike doing the onehanded + magic thing in this, mostly because the aiming of the magic seems so goddamn fiddly all the time. i pretty much just use shouts for hard fights and only use magic on weaker dudes when i am trying to level

PROVEN BY BOOZE SCIENCE, Wednesday, 28 December 2011 19:27 (twelve years ago) link

Do conjure instead. It aims itself!

polyphonic, Wednesday, 28 December 2011 19:30 (twelve years ago) link

yeah i use reanimate and conjuration the most by far. kinda pissed that i havent figured out how to cast muffle yet, because that sounds pretty awesome.

PROVEN BY BOOZE SCIENCE, Wednesday, 28 December 2011 19:31 (twelve years ago) link

i do a lot of flipping between weapons and spells and stuff mid-fight. my favorites menu is probably a little too long

slandblox goole, Wednesday, 28 December 2011 19:41 (twelve years ago) link

use muffle when you're sneaking! just don't cast it when you're near anybody, because (w/o perk) spellcasting makes a noise. tho yeah there's no notification when it wears off (your feet will have blue glowy stuff around them)

slandblox goole, Wednesday, 28 December 2011 19:44 (twelve years ago) link

no i mean i havent learned muffle yet at all

PROVEN BY BOOZE SCIENCE, Wednesday, 28 December 2011 20:00 (twelve years ago) link

oh

it's intro level so most mage shops sell it

slandblox goole, Wednesday, 28 December 2011 20:01 (twelve years ago) link

Lol feeling you on the long-ass "favorites" menu

I haven't been able to play for almost a week due to travels but expect to binge starting tomorrow night.

OH NOES, Wednesday, 28 December 2011 20:01 (twelve years ago) link

there is apparently some kind of exploit involving fortify restoration potions. i don't quite understand it but word on the street is that there is a recursive loop you can get into ending up with items? potions? with bonuses in the multiple hundreds of % and worth millions of gold

i get pretty aggro about little advantages but man i fear for the person who figures that kind of shit out. maybe being on pc helps but damn

slandblox goole, Wednesday, 28 December 2011 20:05 (twelve years ago) link

btw is anyone playing a primarily magic-using style? idk how you'd get thru some of these situations w/o armor, weapons, good sneaking etc. do you have to juggle a bunch of buffs in the favorites?

slandblox goole, Wednesday, 28 December 2011 20:24 (twelve years ago) link

Finally got home after staying at my folks for Christmas and opened up that collectors edition that I treated myself to.
That Dragon Statue is massive and was put pretty much immediately back in its box and into the garage, but the art book is worth the heavily discounted price I payed for the CE. if its available separately, Then I'd jump on it.

Gonna roll my Snow-Orc tonight and then shit's getting Tamriel.

hamildad, Wednesday, 28 December 2011 20:36 (twelve years ago) link

also i cant seem to really marathon this that much, i can basically run a dungeon, load up, dump the stuff in my chest at the mages guild, and then its really hard to roll out and do it all over again right away.

I try and mix things up a bit with some simple non-quest based riding round the countryside and taking time out to craft some quality armour, potions etc. Have made a matching set of Dwarven and then Orcish armour, and an Elven set for Lydia. Because I love her. Will do it all again, and again, and again, when I get the requisite smithing perks.

ledge, Thursday, 29 December 2011 10:22 (twelve years ago) link

I got given this for xmas by my bff and he's nagging me to play it even tho Ive hardly got thru Oblivon yet. Can I just mage it up and wander around doing spells/alchemy/side quests forever like I do in Obliv?

Leave town with an orange, and pretend you're laughing at it. (Trayce), Thursday, 29 December 2011 11:07 (twelve years ago) link

(lol such a girl way to play I kno)

Leave town with an orange, and pretend you're laughing at it. (Trayce), Thursday, 29 December 2011 11:07 (twelve years ago) link

Pretty much. There's no real imperative to do the main quest but you do get some great perks.

If you did that to me in Turkey, i'd have to kill you (ShariVari), Thursday, 29 December 2011 11:11 (twelve years ago) link

Cool, I must get started on it while the holidays are still on then.

Leave town with an orange, and pretend you're laughing at it. (Trayce), Thursday, 29 December 2011 11:13 (twelve years ago) link

(would have started sooner but I took an arrow to... etc)

Leave town with an orange, and pretend you're laughing at it. (Trayce), Thursday, 29 December 2011 11:14 (twelve years ago) link

Old student-slob-days gaming partner visited from America, so we broke into my girlfriend's house to play this on her son's ps3 while she was in the West Country. All got a bit messy when we set off her extraordinarily loud burglar alarm, but she was very understanding, indulgent even, and me & old friend wasted precious grown-up weekend passing controller back and forth.

After the weekend marathon, can now only fit in an hour here and there, but found a rhythm of wandering into a side-quest, eating mushrooms, hammering a few bandits/draugrs/vampires, then tinkering at the forge/alchemy lab.

Became a companion and a bard.

Started off a bit confused & dropping perks all over the place, but getting comfortable with one-hand, heavy armour, sometimes dual wield, sometimes shield.

woof, Thursday, 29 December 2011 11:45 (twelve years ago) link

I;ve been messing around with side quests waaaaaay to much. I'm on L17 and I've only just got the Dragonstone! However, I do have some kickass archmage robes and L55 on archery, so happy days.

My follower has disappeared (I don't think she died, she just . . . went) so I need to recruit. Is Lydia the best of the bunch, and where do I get her from?

You failed, you didn’t eat the whole pizza (NotEnough), Thursday, 29 December 2011 11:56 (twelve years ago) link

You need to kill a dragon at Whiterun - activated after you get the dragonstone. Then the Jarl will appoint her to be your personal slave housecarl.

ledge, Thursday, 29 December 2011 12:09 (twelve years ago) link

Aaaah, I think killing my first dragon is next on my to do list. I'll give it a go tonight and see what happens.

You failed, you didn’t eat the whole pizza (NotEnough), Thursday, 29 December 2011 12:27 (twelve years ago) link

so THIS is where the skyrim thread is

guys: skyrim on mac! baller!

river wolf, Thursday, 29 December 2011 18:25 (twelve years ago) link

The idea of playing through to L17 before unlocking the dragons in a game about dragons is so great.

Now I will listen to Therapist Sweater/J3ff T.'s "Dragon" to celebrate.

polyphonic, Thursday, 29 December 2011 18:29 (twelve years ago) link

this DL of skyrim i got already had a character started (but only right at the v beginning), so i played that guy up to level 6 or so, and i did the dragonstone quest super early, like @ 4/5 i think.

started a new character for the ~full experience~ and have skipped that dragonstone quest for now, just cuz i didn't want to go slog through a dungeon twice in a row. just joined the dark bros

river wolf, Thursday, 29 December 2011 18:43 (twelve years ago) link

kinda envious of peeps that havent started fighting dragons yet since the goddamn things seem to be everywhere now in my game. still tho, shouts are awesome (slow time u my boo). i am a little shocked by the lack of variety enemywise in this game though, pretty bored with killing draugrs and dwarven spiders over and over and over

PROVEN BY BOOZE SCIENCE, Thursday, 29 December 2011 19:00 (twelve years ago) link

ok so here is a question that is maybe really stupid, but: does skyrim automatically adjust the levels of your foes to whatever level you are? i've never seen any indication that the dudes i'm fighting are like LVL 60 TROLLs or anything, but it certainly ~feels~ like quest-specific foes are tailored to your current ability.

which, if true, is awesome game design, imo. i was always a little bummed in WoW that whole areas were unable to be explored because they were above yr paygrade. or that accidentally landing yourself in a new zone could mean instant death because even the lowliest creatures were totally elite. i never played AD&D or anything, but i always thought that the nice thing about DMs was that they could downgrade/tailor an adventure to be commensurate with the players' abilities. and in a sandbox game like skyrim, exploring and side-quests should be picked up or ignored by players for reasons other than "yeah i'm not ready for that right now."

river wolf, Thursday, 29 December 2011 19:18 (twelve years ago) link

(nb i'm basing this entirely on the fact that i got the dragonstone at level 4. and:

I;ve been messing around with side quests waaaaaay to much. I'm on L17 and I've only just got the Dragonstone! However, I do have some kickass archmage robes and L55 on archery, so happy days.

like, was your experience in the dungeon to get the stone just pitifully easy, or were the enemies scaled up to meet you? i didn't have much of a problem at the entry level (playing 'normal'), and i'd imagine that someone significantly higher on the food chain would breeze through the place)

river wolf, Thursday, 29 December 2011 19:22 (twelve years ago) link

some stuff def doesnt scale with you, for example my first fight with a giant was impossible but now they are relatively easy to kill, same with not having to run away from bears anymore. not sure about the quest stuff tho

PROVEN BY BOOZE SCIENCE, Thursday, 29 December 2011 19:27 (twelve years ago) link

well yeah that's why i was thinking 'quest-related' specifically.

i was able to kill the dragon for the dragonstone quest, and then soon after got aced because i thought i could step to a giant, being a dragonslayer and all

river wolf, Thursday, 29 December 2011 19:31 (twelve years ago) link

The second time I did the High Hrothgar quest I was farther along, and the enemies on the steps were much tougher than the first time when I only faced some wolves and the ice troll. There were a bunch of sabertooth tigers or whatever the second time, and some spiders.

polyphonic, Thursday, 29 December 2011 20:05 (twelve years ago) link

how's the combat in this?

(╯°□°)╯┻━zǝɹɐns sınl━┻ (cccccc), Thursday, 29 December 2011 20:10 (twelve years ago) link

do you like first person melee?

slandblox goole, Thursday, 29 December 2011 20:12 (twelve years ago) link

that's a red line for a lot of people, but i'm getting into it. getting a rhythm down with the blocks, staggering, bashes and power attacks is pretty satisfying imo.

slandblox goole, Thursday, 29 December 2011 20:13 (twelve years ago) link

Killed my first dragon last night! Hurrah! wtf am I mean to with these dragon bones? I just left them there tbh, I need to offload some loot first.

re leveling up: It certainly feels like some baddies level up with me, and some aren't. Certainly saber-tooth bears or whatever don't panic me like they used to, but it still took me a couple of goes to kill the dragon.

The idea of playing through to L17 before unlocking the dragons in a game about dragons is so great.

I have to say, the perversity of this did attract me, but it was made easier by the game not really telling you which quests are the "main" quests and which are sidequests. Everything in the "misc" section I'm guessing is a sidequest, but everything else seems to be given equal importance in your journal, so I didn't even twig that maybe dragons were like, the big device around which the game revolves. Tho I suppose I could have worked it out by the whole dragon-attacks-city opening sequence. Oh well.

You failed, you didn’t eat the whole pizza (NotEnough), Friday, 30 December 2011 09:47 (twelve years ago) link

And I've been enjoying the game sans dragons, just bumbling around the map "adventuring", so I didn't feel much imperative to get on with the main story. I tend to do that with sandbox games tho; I'm very much a sidequest kinda guy.

You failed, you didn’t eat the whole pizza (NotEnough), Friday, 30 December 2011 09:51 (twelve years ago) link

i was happy just goofing around with sidequests until they all started involving traveling to the very edge of the Whiterun, past several locations i'd never been to before. now i kind of want to get back to the main quest to move things forward a bit. there's a war map in the castle of ulfric stormcloak that reveals most of the locations in whiterun if you examine all the little pieces, and i wish i never would have done so. it was more fun to lack knowledge about what was in the unexplored territory of the world map. now i look at it and see dozens of additional locations in whiterun alone and feel like it will take me the rest of my life to finish the game (in a bad way)

Z S, Friday, 30 December 2011 13:28 (twelve years ago) link

finished the main quest yesterday but will prob keep playing for awhile just so I can get some better armor (I have a full set of dwarves at the moment)

calstars, Friday, 30 December 2011 15:45 (twelve years ago) link

ah transmute spell, you are a grinder's dream

slandblox goole, Friday, 30 December 2011 16:30 (twelve years ago) link

Alchemy for fun and profit: I enchanted some alchemy gear (hat, gauntlets, necklace & ring at +20%) and potions made from two cheap ingredients sell for 120 - 750. The problem has become offloading them, but every cycle through Solitude-Windhelm-Riften-Whiterun yields 5000 gold + enough ingredients to repeat. I'm looking into that Solitude mansion at a young level 33.

Filled with Kolaveri (Sanpaku), Friday, 30 December 2011 17:58 (twelve years ago) link


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