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Style Wars - sweet
Badlands - very sweet
Little Children - sweet with scattered groans

― Not For Use as Infant Nog (A-Ron Hubbard), Monday, 25 December 2006 07:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I liked it (a lot) in the theater.

I think Mann just screwed the rhythm adding footage and re-editing, and it just doesn't look as cool on 32" instead of a cineplex screen. He doesn't seem to realize his strengths are in the economy of words/action - so he tacks on a three-minute speedboat scene to set up the nightclub, and the Havana excursion gets lengthened and there's one hilariously bad music cue to kick off a sex scene I don't remember being their to start with.

― milo (milo), Monday, 25 December 2006 07:54 (seventeen years ago) link

i hunted down the theatrical cut dvd at best buy, you should as well if you can. i think it's one of the few places stocking it (amoeba, borders, used dvd places all seem to have nothing but the 'director's cut'). the strength of the movie is in it being totally economical and not overexplaining anything. i liked it more the second time around, most definitely.

― bohren un der club of gear (bohren un der club of gear), Monday, 25 December 2006 07:59 (seventeen years ago) link

oh, i saw the director's cut...might explain why i wasn't entirely thrilled with it. the havana scene was waaaaay too long, i thought.

― baby wizard sex (gbx), Monday, 25 December 2006 14:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I think the 'director's cut' of Miami Vice is like a minute longer (or shorter?)

― Dr M (Dr Morbius), Monday, 25 December 2006 14:40 (seventeen years ago) link

or samer?

i can't really say i liked the island. i'm trying to remember why. although i liked the plot twist with the real ewan mac-G.

― a mediocre black-and-white cookie in a cellophane wrapper (hanks1ockli), Monday, 25 December 2006 15:21 (seventeen years ago) link

the director's cut of 'miami vice' adds about eight minutes from what i heard.

― bohren un der club of gear (bohren un der club of gear), Monday, 25 December 2006 18:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Meet Me In St. Louis

*wipes tear away* I do it to myself every damned year.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 25 December 2006 21:14 (seventeen years ago) link

i am loving war of teh worlds! not done yet though. taking a breather.

― scott seward (121212), Monday, 25 December 2006 22:54 (seventeen years ago) link

prepare for the ending, though

― bohren un der club of gear (bohren un der club of gear), Monday, 25 December 2006 22:57 (seventeen years ago) link

which WOTW?

Eric, homie, I joined you this year.

― Dr M (Dr Morbius), Monday, 25 December 2006 22:59 (seventeen years ago) link

ya know, spielberg one. yeah, yer right about the ending. it kinda ends before you even know it. i wanted more carnage!! great scenes though. loved the blood everywhere. loved the bodies floating downstream. it was like dreams i have!

― scott seward (121212), Monday, 25 December 2006 23:19 (seventeen years ago) link

it's kinda hard to screw up the end of the world for me. mass-hysteria is its own reward.

― scott seward (121212), Monday, 25 December 2006 23:20 (seventeen years ago) link

the spielberg one is pretty awesome til that ending. i prefer the '50s one, myself. it's not intense, just a creepy slow-motion apocalypse.

― bohren un der club of gear (bohren un der club of gear), Monday, 25 December 2006 23:22 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, the old one is great.

― scott seward (121212), Monday, 25 December 2006 23:27 (seventeen years ago) link

but really, i love them all. triffids, body snatchers, zombies, it's all good.

― scott seward (121212), Monday, 25 December 2006 23:28 (seventeen years ago) link

okay, i am on to talladega nights, i think.

― scott seward (121212), Monday, 25 December 2006 23:33 (seventeen years ago) link

end of the world movies have this built-in wish fulfillment because all a surviver's gotta do to survive is kill and eat. and no credit card debt or taxes or hours on the job!

― bohren un der club of gear (bohren un der club of gear), Monday, 25 December 2006 23:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I liked Talladega Nights.

I liked the Spielberg WOTW too.

― Not For Use as Infant Nog (A-Ron Hubbard), Monday, 25 December 2006 23:49 (seventeen years ago) link

i love that part in wotw where tom is freaking and he yells "where do we go? you live here, where do we go?" at his son and his son saves his ass. that was awesome. and tim robbins was great too. he totally ceased to be tim robbins to me and totally became creepy guy freaking the fuck out! good job.

― scott seward (121212), Monday, 25 December 2006 23:57 (seventeen years ago) link

i loved spielberg wotw except yeah the ending, and too much tim robbins

― a mediocre black-and-white cookie in a cellophane wrapper (hanks1ockli), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 03:26 (seventeen years ago) link

also they shouldn't have showed the aliens. except for maybe the last scene where the hand flops out

― a mediocre black-and-white cookie in a cellophane wrapper (hanks1ockli), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 03:27 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, i dug ricky bobby. i heart will. sacha, gary cole. just lovely. too bad they had to throw elvis costello and mos def in there. totally harshed my mellow. elvis totally ruined a perfectly good episode of 2 & a half men for me too.

― scott seward (121212), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 05:04 (seventeen years ago) link

needed more ian roberts.

― baccarat heads spice pushka underdog official texas holdem bundgee (bundgee), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 05:23 (seventeen years ago) link

I love when SBC puts jazz on the jukebox and one guy says "Somebody made a tape of somethin' dying"

― Not For Use as Infant Nog (A-Ron Hubbard), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 07:42 (seventeen years ago) link

i reeeaaally want to see hiroshima mon amour again

-- v (enemy.airshi...)

Its really great isn't it? Must get more from Resnais in general.

Got a copy of Chris Marker's Sana Soleil/La Jetee yesterday.

Caught Rushmore on TV again.

― xyzzzz__ (xyzzzz__), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 11:35 (seventeen years ago) link

also they shouldn't have showed the aliens. except for maybe the last scene where the hand flops out

-- a mediocre black-and-white cookie in a cellophane wrapper (slytus...), December 26th, 2006.

it wasn't so much in this one that they showed the aliens as much as that they looked too boring. they were way too similar to the critters in independence day.

the 50's WotW had some genuinely creepy aliens in it, especially with those crazy tri-color camera eyes!

― latebloomer (clonefeed), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 12:42 (seventeen years ago) link

the spielberg one is pretty awesome til that ending.

You just hate families.

― Dr M (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 15:18 (seventeen years ago) link

so does everyone else who agreed with me upthread, apparently! it would be nice to see spielberg end a film in a completely non-obvious manner for once. it's not like he can't do it, but i guess why hint at something when you can go the hallmark route, or in the case of that hilarious sex scene in 'munich' the 'passionate collective soul video' route.

― bohren un der club of gear (bohren un der club of gear), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 16:29 (seventeen years ago) link

"non-obvious," like a rat running along a rat cop's condo window rail?

― Dr M (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 16:50 (seventeen years ago) link

(i don't like the ending of WOTW either, but mostly cuz it's T.C.)

― Dr M (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 16:51 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm not gonna argue too much about spielberg because the guy's got skills and has made some excellent films, he just doesn't quite respect the audience enough to end his (recent) films without spelling everything out.

i know, i know, the rat. but i'd rather have an obvious joke than obvious sentiment.

― bohren un der club of gear (bohren un der club of gear), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 17:03 (seventeen years ago) link

i really love wotw and munich and schindler's list and much of saving private ryan, but i always imagine how much better they'd have been with better endings (esp. the first two, schindler's couldn't have been too much better and spr had more probs than the ending).

― bohren un der club of gear (bohren un der club of gear), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 17:05 (seventeen years ago) link

I find myself lately much less willing to completely write off movies and much more willing to enjoy them in spite of their flaws. If I had seen WOTW a few years earlier I probably would have been more dismissive, and same for Little Children, really.

― Not For Use as Infant Nog (A-Ron Hubbard), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 17:20 (seventeen years ago) link

okay, i finally finished watching a history of violence. very cool. but you all knew that already.

― scott seward (121212), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 19:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Some movies' flaws are why they are bad movies. Others have flaws that make them more interesting.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 02:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Children of Men - awesome awesome awesome, go see now. Throw in the bored Russian girl from The Good Thief and Sophie Okonedo and this would be the best cast ever.

― milo (milo), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 02:44 (seventeen years ago) link

dreamgrils

― a mediocre black-and-white cookie in a cellophane wrapper (hanks1ockli), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 03:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Movies not included in the slightest in Spielberg montage on Kennedy Center Honors (a montage that found room for Hook, Amistad and The Sugarland Express) included most prominently A.I., Munich and War of the Worlds. Of course, it pretty much ended with Saving Private Ryan, chronologically speaking.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 03:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Of course, that processional of vets pretty much proved the program directors are clueless at putting together tributes that don't involve musicians.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 03:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Ew, John Williams was Kennedy Center honored before Spielberg?

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 03:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Spielberg is a decent whoman being.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 03:55 (seventeen years ago) link

are you liveblogging it or something?

― a mediocre black-and-white cookie in a cellophane wrapper (hanks1ockli), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 08:06 (seventeen years ago) link

bad santa (still awesome)
i heart huckabees (some roffles, but fairly pointless)

...does LED ZEPPELIN DVD count as cinema??

― haitch (not haitch) (haitch), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 13:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Aguire, Wrath of God - I loved it, I loved that it was so bleak and yet had these weirdly hilarious moments ("long arrows are becoming the fashion").

The Unknown - I got waybaked and watched this fucking CREEPY silent 1927 Lon Chaney movie the other night while playing banjo in an empty house with all the lights off, good times.

re: Spielberg, I also watched ET the other day, which was way better than I remembered it, but there was that one scene where they photoshopped walkie-talkies into guys' hands in place of guns, and it was like, wtf.

― has been plagued with problems since its erection in 1978 (nklshs), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 14:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Spielberg montage on Kennedy Center Honors

Goddammit, I saw this was on but had to watch Coup de Torchon before it went back to the library. So no songs for Steve?

PPL, PLS STOP 'GETTING BAKED' BEFORE WATCHING GOOD FILMS

― Dr M (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 15:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Alien (wet)
Evil Dead 2 (groovy)
The Vampire Lovers (hi ingrid!)

― David RER (Frank Fiore), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 15:24 (seventeen years ago) link

PPL, PLS STOP 'GETTING BAKED' BEFORE WATCHING GOOD FILMS

-- Dr M (wjwe...), Today. (later)

― a mediocre black-and-white cookie in a cellophane wrapper (hanks1ockli), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 16:13 (seventeen years ago) link

well, there was no other explanation for yr putting The Aristocrats in yr top 10.

― Dr M (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 16:22 (seventeen years ago) link

i feel to stoned sleep watching fargo last night SO GREAT

― 69 (pete), Wednesday, 27 December 2006 16:25 (seventeen years ago) link

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