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i liked The Island too! I thought i was gonna hate it or something. I only got it cuz i thought it was gonna be big & dumb and i was in the mood for big & dumb, but it wasn't actually THAT dumb. and i liked the action scenes.

scott seward (121212), Monday, 25 December 2006 03:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Dunno why the Island went down in flames. First good Bay/Bruckheimer (whichever) movie in forever.

Transporter 2 - not as good as Crank, the fight scenes are inventive but that Jackie Chan stuff gets old.

milo (milo), Monday, 25 December 2006 03:55 (seventeen years ago) link

'the clown at midnight' is awesomely awful!

bohren un der club of gear (bohren un der club of gear), Monday, 25 December 2006 03:59 (seventeen years ago) link

haha milo and i are both watching the SAME HBO

baby wizard sex (gbx), Monday, 25 December 2006 04:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Savage Island is supposed to be really good:


"An at times fascinating redux of Wes Craven's The Hills Have Eyes, Jeffery Scott Lando's zero budget Savage Island deals with the problem of the middle class intruding on the demesne of primal man: digging plots on prime moonshine acreage, desecrating woodland gravesites, and working out their petty marital squalls against the backdrop of struggles for survival and the instinct to progeny. Shot on a terrible-looking digital video, even the format speaks, like The Blair Witch Project, of the sort of arrogance that technology breeds: forgetfulness of the savage immediacy of the Natural just on the borders of civilization and superego. (The tragic effect of a cell phone and its subsequent execution is surprisingly smart and surprisingly piquant.) Its acting forever on the verge of embarrassing, its locations "found," Savage Island also reminds of the zero budget frights of the seventies with its ability to evoke a feeling of irreducible filth and a bone deep discomfort. It works because it doesn't aspire to be much more than a straight reworking of the Deliverance dynamic--the logic of people defending their homes and aspiring for eternity through children (the child peril lifted almost whole from the Craven film), the idea of families at war with one another over land and litter remains ever vital and, handled with the disarming immediacy of terrible video, something that deserves to be respected as a statement about man, culture, and how they don't often make 'em like they used to. *** (out of four)"

scott seward (121212), Monday, 25 December 2006 04:08 (seventeen years ago) link

omg maybe i am the female scott seward!

no no i mean it's okay!

haha that was an xpost!
and now!

impermanent rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Monday, 25 December 2006 04:10 (seventeen years ago) link

http://wien19.technoware.at/Upload/Images/savageIsland.JPG

scott seward (121212), Monday, 25 December 2006 04:10 (seventeen years ago) link

wait, what did i do that was like you? is it my love for The Island?

scott seward (121212), Monday, 25 December 2006 04:11 (seventeen years ago) link

i think it's like everything you posted in this thread!
but the transporter 2 got me to notice it

impermanent rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Monday, 25 December 2006 04:19 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm so buying 'crank' when it comes out on dvd.

bohren un der club of gear (bohren un der club of gear), Monday, 25 December 2006 04:20 (seventeen years ago) link

i so wanted to get that jessica alba beach intrigue movie, but the dude was like, no, if is says RENTAL on it then it isn't a part of the 10 for 10 deal, and i was all, like, NOW you tell me, and i chickened out when it came to getting it on dvd cuz it was like 15 bucks. i was actually gonna go and buy the descent on dvd today cuz i saw it was out now, but i was too lazy to.

scott seward (121212), Monday, 25 December 2006 04:31 (seventeen years ago) link

the descent is totally on my best of 2006 list/'list'!
i haven't seen 'into the blue' and i am sad about that

impermanent rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Monday, 25 December 2006 04:39 (seventeen years ago) link

The Family Stone - Rachel McAdams is bonerific in Dino Jr. t-shirt and indie-rock/librarian hair (Diane Keaton, too!), but when Craig T. Nelson is the second strongest cast member...

Miami Vice - never a good idea to let Mann do a 'director's cut.' Or maybe it just didn't hold up well to a second viewing/on a tv, it seemed kind of flat. Fewer 'whoa'-s, more 'omg I can't believe that Colin Farrell line made it into the movie'

milo (milo), Monday, 25 December 2006 07:20 (seventeen years ago) link

The Descent is brilliant right up until it becomes a horror movie. Trapped in cave with no way of escaping your bitchy sister and her stupid friends is far more terrifying than evil cave-dwelling things.

milo (milo), Monday, 25 December 2006 07:22 (seventeen years ago) link

i can't believe you rep for 'domino' incessantly and are criticizing 'miami vice'! :D you should seek out the theatrical cut (dunno why mann fucked with it). i love how it drops right into the action in the nightclub and cuts out suddenly at the end. it's got some cheesy bits obv but it's pretty ace overall. the skull-capping of the wite supremacist in the mobile home was the most obvious CGI headshot i've ever seen, though.

bohren un der club of gear (bohren un der club of gear), Monday, 25 December 2006 07:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Style Wars - sweet
Badlands - very sweet
Little Children - sweet with scattered groans

Not For Use as Infant Nog (A-Ron Hubbard), Monday, 25 December 2006 07:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I liked it (a lot) in the theater.

I think Mann just screwed the rhythm adding footage and re-editing, and it just doesn't look as cool on 32" instead of a cineplex screen. He doesn't seem to realize his strengths are in the economy of words/action - so he tacks on a three-minute speedboat scene to set up the nightclub, and the Havana excursion gets lengthened and there's one hilariously bad music cue to kick off a sex scene I don't remember being their to start with.

milo (milo), Monday, 25 December 2006 07:54 (seventeen years ago) link

i hunted down the theatrical cut dvd at best buy, you should as well if you can. i think it's one of the few places stocking it (amoeba, borders, used dvd places all seem to have nothing but the 'director's cut'). the strength of the movie is in it being totally economical and not overexplaining anything. i liked it more the second time around, most definitely.

bohren un der club of gear (bohren un der club of gear), Monday, 25 December 2006 07:59 (seventeen years ago) link

oh, i saw the director's cut...might explain why i wasn't entirely thrilled with it. the havana scene was waaaaay too long, i thought.

baby wizard sex (gbx), Monday, 25 December 2006 14:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I think the 'director's cut' of Miami Vice is like a minute longer (or shorter?)

Dr M (Dr Morbius), Monday, 25 December 2006 14:40 (seventeen years ago) link

or samer?

i can't really say i liked the island. i'm trying to remember why. although i liked the plot twist with the real ewan mac-G.

a mediocre black-and-white cookie in a cellophane wrapper (hanks1ockli), Monday, 25 December 2006 15:21 (seventeen years ago) link

the director's cut of 'miami vice' adds about eight minutes from what i heard.

bohren un der club of gear (bohren un der club of gear), Monday, 25 December 2006 18:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Meet Me In St. Louis

*wipes tear away* I do it to myself every damned year.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 25 December 2006 21:14 (seventeen years ago) link

i am loving war of teh worlds! not done yet though. taking a breather.

scott seward (121212), Monday, 25 December 2006 22:54 (seventeen years ago) link

prepare for the ending, though

bohren un der club of gear (bohren un der club of gear), Monday, 25 December 2006 22:57 (seventeen years ago) link

which WOTW?

Eric, homie, I joined you this year.

Dr M (Dr Morbius), Monday, 25 December 2006 22:59 (seventeen years ago) link

ya know, spielberg one. yeah, yer right about the ending. it kinda ends before you even know it. i wanted more carnage!! great scenes though. loved the blood everywhere. loved the bodies floating downstream. it was like dreams i have!

scott seward (121212), Monday, 25 December 2006 23:19 (seventeen years ago) link

it's kinda hard to screw up the end of the world for me. mass-hysteria is its own reward.

scott seward (121212), Monday, 25 December 2006 23:20 (seventeen years ago) link

the spielberg one is pretty awesome til that ending. i prefer the '50s one, myself. it's not intense, just a creepy slow-motion apocalypse.

bohren un der club of gear (bohren un der club of gear), Monday, 25 December 2006 23:22 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, the old one is great.

scott seward (121212), Monday, 25 December 2006 23:27 (seventeen years ago) link

but really, i love them all. triffids, body snatchers, zombies, it's all good.

scott seward (121212), Monday, 25 December 2006 23:28 (seventeen years ago) link

okay, i am on to talladega nights, i think.

scott seward (121212), Monday, 25 December 2006 23:33 (seventeen years ago) link

end of the world movies have this built-in wish fulfillment because all a surviver's gotta do to survive is kill and eat. and no credit card debt or taxes or hours on the job!

bohren un der club of gear (bohren un der club of gear), Monday, 25 December 2006 23:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I liked Talladega Nights.

I liked the Spielberg WOTW too.

Not For Use as Infant Nog (A-Ron Hubbard), Monday, 25 December 2006 23:49 (seventeen years ago) link

i love that part in wotw where tom is freaking and he yells "where do we go? you live here, where do we go?" at his son and his son saves his ass. that was awesome. and tim robbins was great too. he totally ceased to be tim robbins to me and totally became creepy guy freaking the fuck out! good job.

scott seward (121212), Monday, 25 December 2006 23:57 (seventeen years ago) link

i loved spielberg wotw except yeah the ending, and too much tim robbins

a mediocre black-and-white cookie in a cellophane wrapper (hanks1ockli), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 03:26 (seventeen years ago) link

also they shouldn't have showed the aliens. except for maybe the last scene where the hand flops out

a mediocre black-and-white cookie in a cellophane wrapper (hanks1ockli), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 03:27 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, i dug ricky bobby. i heart will. sacha, gary cole. just lovely. too bad they had to throw elvis costello and mos def in there. totally harshed my mellow. elvis totally ruined a perfectly good episode of 2 & a half men for me too.

scott seward (121212), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 05:04 (seventeen years ago) link

needed more ian roberts.

baccarat heads spice pushka underdog official texas holdem bundgee (bundgee), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 05:23 (seventeen years ago) link

I love when SBC puts jazz on the jukebox and one guy says "Somebody made a tape of somethin' dying"

Not For Use as Infant Nog (A-Ron Hubbard), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 07:42 (seventeen years ago) link

i reeeaaally want to see hiroshima mon amour again

-- v (enemy.airshi...)

Its really great isn't it? Must get more from Resnais in general.

Got a copy of Chris Marker's Sana Soleil/La Jetee yesterday.

Caught Rushmore on TV again.

xyzzzz__ (xyzzzz__), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 11:35 (seventeen years ago) link

also they shouldn't have showed the aliens. except for maybe the last scene where the hand flops out

-- a mediocre black-and-white cookie in a cellophane wrapper (slytus...), December 26th, 2006.

it wasn't so much in this one that they showed the aliens as much as that they looked too boring. they were way too similar to the critters in independence day.

the 50's WotW had some genuinely creepy aliens in it, especially with those crazy tri-color camera eyes!

latebloomer (clonefeed), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 12:42 (seventeen years ago) link

the spielberg one is pretty awesome til that ending.

You just hate families.

Dr M (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 15:18 (seventeen years ago) link

so does everyone else who agreed with me upthread, apparently! it would be nice to see spielberg end a film in a completely non-obvious manner for once. it's not like he can't do it, but i guess why hint at something when you can go the hallmark route, or in the case of that hilarious sex scene in 'munich' the 'passionate collective soul video' route.

bohren un der club of gear (bohren un der club of gear), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 16:29 (seventeen years ago) link

"non-obvious," like a rat running along a rat cop's condo window rail?

Dr M (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 16:50 (seventeen years ago) link

(i don't like the ending of WOTW either, but mostly cuz it's T.C.)

Dr M (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 16:51 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm not gonna argue too much about spielberg because the guy's got skills and has made some excellent films, he just doesn't quite respect the audience enough to end his (recent) films without spelling everything out.

i know, i know, the rat. but i'd rather have an obvious joke than obvious sentiment.

bohren un der club of gear (bohren un der club of gear), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 17:03 (seventeen years ago) link

i really love wotw and munich and schindler's list and much of saving private ryan, but i always imagine how much better they'd have been with better endings (esp. the first two, schindler's couldn't have been too much better and spr had more probs than the ending).

bohren un der club of gear (bohren un der club of gear), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 17:05 (seventeen years ago) link

I find myself lately much less willing to completely write off movies and much more willing to enjoy them in spite of their flaws. If I had seen WOTW a few years earlier I probably would have been more dismissive, and same for Little Children, really.

Not For Use as Infant Nog (A-Ron Hubbard), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 17:20 (seventeen years ago) link

okay, i finally finished watching a history of violence. very cool. but you all knew that already.

scott seward (121212), Tuesday, 26 December 2006 19:11 (seventeen years ago) link


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