E-Readers (Kindle, Nook, using iPad for reading) yay or nay

ok fine i swear every time i hear someone bitching abt how ereaders are an inferior experience to books theyve never actually like read a book on one xp

I feel like my "bitching" on this thread is coming off too harsh then. Sorry!

I don't own an e-reader, but I'd like to try one out before laying money down really. I get the whole "ease" thing. I find myself distracted incredibly easily while reading, so if I find the e-reader off-putting, that could ruin things for me. There's definitely a parallel with the ease that comes from choosing a record and physically putting a needle on it as it spins vs selecting from an mp3 playlist and choosing a book from the shelf and flicking to the right page vs selecting from a list of e-books and reading them off your reader.

Plus sides:
- no noisy turning of pages in bed
- less heavy to hold and carry (especially if it's a big book you'd like to read in bed)

Down sides:
- you can't physically see how far into the book you are
- flicking back and forth for things isn't quite a simple
- pictures? y/n?

I feel like my "bitching" on this thread is coming off too harsh then. Sorry!

― flexidisc, Wednesday, December 21, 2011 11:56 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Permalink

lol not its not at all, i was just speaking generally

you can't physically see how far into the book you are

can be argued to be a good thing, adds another dimension to books when you don't know when they'll end

- you can't physically see how far into the book you are

The Nook has a counter that says you are on page X of Y.

- pictures? y/n?

depends entirely on the book; the Nook can support them

kindle tells you how far you are through the book proportionally. graphic representations (maps, photos, etc.) are a weakness of the kindle, they're going to be black and white and pretty small.

never heard of the nook. is that US only? Anyone who knows about these things have a preference of make/model of e-reader?

it would be great to see one that can handle graphic novels in the future

the problem w/images is it seems like b&w eink is really the best for reading text where a conventional led display is best for images

Nook is the Barnes & Noble e-reader:

http://www.barnesandnoble.com/u/nook/379003208/

I have a Nook Color; the tablet is brand new afaik

it would be great to see one that can handle graphic novels in the future

funny you should say this, they just added Marvel comics/graphic novels to the Nook

Anyone who knows about these things have a preference of make/model of e-reader?

I have a sony, will have a go with my dad's kindle over the weekend, i figure they're all much of a muchness though.

E-book readers have one critical advantage for me: easy, free access to classic or public domain literature. There are around 150 titles on my Kindle, only 10 of which under modern copyright. The would have cost a minimum of $1000 if purchased used, with another $150 for shelving, a move to larger quarters to find another free wall to store them all.

Still prefer traditional books for 90% of my reading, as used book shopping has never been easier, or cheaper (in time & fuel).

iPad is grrrrrrrrrrreat for graphic novels. I don't know if I would necessarily recommend it over a dedicated e-reader, though. Like I may have said, I often waffle about wanting an e-reader and then thinking it's just a waste.

i love reading, don't care that much about books.

OTM.

Also: if you have an Amazon Prime membership and a Kindle, you can "check out" unlimited books from Amazon's own "library." I don't know how good the selection is as I do not have a Kindle. If it's decent, I think that would be worthwhile.

hysterical OMG BOOKS ARE DYING ppl annoy the shit out of me - books will never die bc, unlike vinyl/CDs/DVDs/video-tape, the relationship between the form and the content is often so important, which is also why the fetishization of books as objects is so common. i think airport-type pulp fiction paperbacks will die eventually, but imo e-readers should be motivating small presses (and big publishing houses) to think a little more carefully about production, instead of just slamming out piles of ugly junk.

god, i wish i'd had an e-reader in college, probably would have saved a lot of back/neck/shoulder pain.

E-book readers have one critical advantage for me: easy, free access to classic or public domain literature. There are around 150 titles on my Kindle, only 10 of which under modern copyright. The would have cost a minimum of $1000 if purchased used, with another $150 for shelving, a move to larger quarters to find another free wall to store them all.

yes yes yes yes yes

i slightly prefer the kobo over the kindle, although there is a definite lag when when flipping frwd to the next page. The cheapest kobo comes with 100 classics pre-loaded.

god, i wish i'd had an e-reader in college, probably would have saved a lot of back/neck/shoulder pain.

OMG so OTM, especially for law school. I would have saved myself the humiliation of dragging around a rolling backpack, too.

but you can buy/borrow classic books for next to nothing. I am thinking of buying my girlfriend a kindle for christmas, but mostly so she can read her uni textbooks on it, and I'm not sure those will be available. It's just they're awfully big. I take it she'll have to buy them again in digital if she's already got them physically?

also can save thousands of dollars on textbooks

xp

Apple is known to be targeting schools for replacing textbooks with iPads. Besides not having to lug around a heavy backpack, the contents can easily be kept up to date, and unlike textbooks can offer links, sound, video, etc.

>- no noisy turning of pages in bed
- less heavy to hold and carry (especially if it's a big book you'd like to read in bed)

I've already heard some lolworthy "i take my iPad to bed" stories from friends, and given how many times I've awakened with my laptop on the floor, I fear that if I'm reading an iPad/e-reader i'll fall asleep, roll over it, and crush the screen. Still, reading in bed is why I prefer the backlit, color iPad-type screen to the "e-ink" Kindle screens that are great in sunlight, but not in dark rooms.

Which is less bothersome: your bedmate reading a book using one of those little book lights and flipping pages, or taking an iPad to bed and reading on it?

iPad is grrrrrrrrrrreat for graphic novels. I don't know if I would necessarily recommend it over a dedicated e-reader, though. Like I may have said, I often waffle about wanting an e-reader and then thinking it's just a waste

if you already have an iPad, I don't see any compelling argument to get an e-reader aside from wanting something smaller

That's my only compelling argument.

I prefer Jeff to read quietly using the iPad than rustle pages with a book light. iPad Kindle app has a white-on-black function that makes it easier to read in the dark and less bright to sleep next to.

(note: hate the white on black thing because I can't see it as well.)

I find reading real books harder. I get distracted by the shadows cast in the page, the edges of the page.

i find e-readers less distracting too because the one-page-at-a-time thing keeps my eyes from drifting over the next page

i love reading, don't care that much about books.

I have had an increasingly hard time reading books for a few years, so sincerely, no challops intended, I'm finding myself loving books more than reading.

Because you don't read them?

I like having them around. I've had a few books on my night stand for months that I don't read, but I like having there. They're nice objects.

I just got a set of lamps for my birthday made out of old books

find ereaders more distracting because my eyes can't drift, but I've made my peace, sort of.

I have had an increasingly hard time reading books for a few years, so sincerely, no challops intended, I'm finding myself loving books more than reading.

http://www.readbreatherelax.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/coffeetablebooks.jpg

That makes me angry.

Show me other pictures and I will tell you how they make me feel.

^^ at last a use for coffee table books

i get the sneaking feeling that i will be getting one of these for christmas (kindle prob) and i dont know how i feel about that yet really. i buy almost all my books (and i buy lots of them) used so idk if there will really be any cost saving aspect. i guess we'll see.

The thing I love most about my Nook is that I can jump back and forth between reading on it and reading on the Nook application on my phone and the applications will sync to the last page I read if I am in a wi-fi location.

this is awesome

so which e-reader has the least ugly kerning

i don't know that books are any more linked form-to-content as a uh fetish i guess than eg music to vinyl sleeves or film to reel/vhs case. Maybe a little more so, but not to the extent that books won't nonetheless become a vintage statement accessory for future hipsters or w/e

they're significantly more linked form-to-content than are music and films, which themselves are significantly more linked f-to-c than software, say

wait i sort of skipped over 'as a fetish' there, though i probably still agree with myself (i always do)

I dunno. Based on the fact that books-as-fetish-objects have been around for 575 years (and even before Gutenberg, as rarer things), they're probably going to stick around in a way that cassettes/vinyl/film reels won't. There have been lots of challenges to the physical form of the book before, schisms and failures, and I doubt that a new form of distribution is going to kill them b/c it is currently in nascent vogue.

People thought vinyl was dying in the 90's, and it still hasn't.

for some reason ereaders are like the one piece of new-ish technology that seems tailor made for old ppl, like they feel really stodgy and middleaged to me.

re: gutenberg

http://www.bl.uk/onlinegallery/sacredtexts/images/gutenberg_lg.jpg

http://www.crossway.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/41.gif

for some reason ereaders are like the one piece of new-ish technology that seems tailor made for old ppl, like they feel really stodgy and middleaged to me.

― ice cræmde (є(٥_ ٥)э), Wednesday, December 21, 2011 1:20 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Permalink

Because you can make the font bigger.

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

one my e-books I had on hold from the library is now available. i wonder how this will work....

it will only be a matter of time before the number of e-copies of titles will go from finite to infinity