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Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 30 November 2006 14:07 (seventeen years ago) link

I think the "find out what she likes" was more of a way into a proper conversation, rather than a conversation in itself, yes? No? I mean, one lass who's emailed me has said that she's gone to lots of festivals (good sign) and seen such bands as C0ldpl@y and @thl3t3 (v. bad sign). But this doesn't actually MEAN anything, it's just a way in to find out what kind of person she is. Some of my best friend like the EXACT OPPOSITE STUFF to me, that doesn't make them any less cool.

Johnney B has zeros off the line (stigoftdumpilx), Thursday, 30 November 2006 14:10 (seventeen years ago) link

If it was a girl asking, my reply would be "find out what he likes, find out what he likes..."

Sorry, Andrew, but in the world of dating, I kinda *do* have a bit more experience than you. I haven't always been a celibate misanthrope.

Dating *is* about getting to know someone, and the quickest and easiest way to get to know someone is to get them to talk about themselves. And from that you can proceed to the stuff you have in common. That's how it *works*.

x-post - Johnny OTM, it's a way of finding something to talk about.

masonic boom (kate), Thursday, 30 November 2006 14:12 (seventeen years ago) link

i think conversations, at a date or otherwise, should be a mixture of things she likes, and things you like. and things that neither of you like.

ken c (ken c), Thursday, 30 November 2006 14:13 (seventeen years ago) link

and never call your date a celibate misanthrope

ken c (ken c), Thursday, 30 November 2006 14:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Well done St Greg! all you have is the internet, yet even here you manage to upset everyone by being an arse!

Keep this up and you'll make us mere trolls look bad

Mr. Comnenus (Mr Comnenus), Thursday, 30 November 2006 14:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Did I follow mine own advice, last night? You bet I didn't! (not that it was a date of any sort, but you know what I mean.)

masonic boom (kate), Thursday, 30 November 2006 14:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Well done St Greg! etc etc

D-
must try harder

the D is for Darramouss.
sorry to interrupt, Watercoolants. do continue.

Sir Gregory of St.Kitts (g-kit), Thursday, 30 November 2006 14:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Sorry, Andrew, but in the world of dating, I kinda *do* have a bit more experience than you. I haven't always been a celibate misanthrope.

I resemble that remark.

Dating *is* about getting to know someone, and the quickest and easiest way to get to know someone is to get them to talk about themselves.

Oh yes, absolutely. So why not get them to talk about themselves?

And from that you can proceed to the stuff you have in common. That's how it *works*.

Sure, but that seems to me directly opposed to your previous post. Am I missing something?

x-post - Johnny OTM, it's a way of finding something to talk about.

But the thing you're trying to get them to talk about is them?

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 30 November 2006 14:20 (seventeen years ago) link

"the D is for Darramouss."

No, i'm not Darramouss. I think you're grossly underestimating your ability to inspire the hatred of complete strangers.

Mr. Comnenus (Mr Comnenus), Thursday, 30 November 2006 14:24 (seventeen years ago) link

I know you're not Darramouss. You're more articulate, but tragically, less amusing than him.

D- = You are worse than Darramouss. But don't take it to heart.

I am perfectly aware of my unrivaled ability to inspire hatred in strangers.

Sir Gregory of St.Kitts (g-kit), Thursday, 30 November 2006 14:27 (seventeen years ago) link

i partly and generally agree with what kate had said, but i wasn't so sure about the bit about "the quickest and easiest way" thing..

i much prefer to just try and have a good time than seeing a date as some kind of data mining exercise with speed and efficiency being an issue! see in my ideal date either person will just start talking about anything, interest or not, and the other will listen and respond accordingly, with no agenda like "i'm going to find out this this this and this about you by 9:15 and then i'll tell you how much i like the same thing" because i find that that usually hinders a genuine conversation.

but of course it is not always so straightforward becasue often people go into a date WITH an agenda usually being "I AM GOING TO HAVE TURKED YOU TWICE BY 11:30" but i dunno. i can't really give good advice because i not often go on blind dates and so when i do go on dates and stuff it's usually people who i know want me to turk them by 11:30 anyway.. so it's probably differnet.

maybe the advice is to never go on blind dates unless you're not really that bothered about being turked.

ken c (ken c), Thursday, 30 November 2006 14:28 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't go on many dates, either, btw! just in case you think i have swamps of people wanting to turk me all the time

ken c (ken c), Thursday, 30 November 2006 14:30 (seventeen years ago) link

For gods sake, it was just a suggestion to a couple of boys who said that they were having trouble finding conversations on first dates. It's not the be all and end all of dating advice.

And it's a fuck of a lot better than what was suggested on the site linked to.

We now return you to my crush, already in progress.

masonic boom (kate), Thursday, 30 November 2006 14:32 (seventeen years ago) link

What is turking and can we eat it?

Ed (dali), Thursday, 30 November 2006 14:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Pork like a turkey?

masonic boom (kate), Thursday, 30 November 2006 14:34 (seventeen years ago) link

The other other white meat.

Ed (dali), Thursday, 30 November 2006 14:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Ah - someone else who uses the word 'turk'. I though it was just my mate Andy. (not A. Farrell).

But Andrew (Farrell) - good to see you last Friday, sir! Hope you got home safely with yr parcel. Did you see any of teh gig? We started off like Motorhead for the first 5 or 6 songs (according to one of our regular fanz), but ran out of steam a bit for the last few.

Dr.C (Dr.C), Thursday, 30 November 2006 14:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I do not want what I cannot have. Repeat to fade.

I WANT I WANT I WANT

God, I need sleep. What should I have for lunch? I've got £1.62.

masonic boom (kate), Thursday, 30 November 2006 14:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Eating does come into it, methinks. xpost

Johnney B has zeros off the line (stigoftdumpilx), Thursday, 30 November 2006 14:37 (seventeen years ago) link

"come into it"

ken c (ken c), Thursday, 30 November 2006 14:39 (seventeen years ago) link

I can't remember, what with being celibate and all. Is it like eating toast and spaghetti in bed?

masonic boom (kate), Thursday, 30 November 2006 14:40 (seventeen years ago) link

I only saw half of the first song, I'm afraid. Did the Freezer run out of steam?

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 30 November 2006 14:42 (seventeen years ago) link

£1.62 can buy you Some Chips. Fat + carbs != wildly unstable metabolism, no not at all.

Is it like eating toast and spaghetti in bed?
It is if you're doing it wrong.

Johnney B has zeros off the line (stigoftdumpilx), Thursday, 30 November 2006 14:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Or really well, depending on your predilection.

Johnney B has zeros off the line (stigoftdumpilx), Thursday, 30 November 2006 14:47 (seventeen years ago) link

"But why must I explain myself! Excuse myself! Why must I justify with my Honesty and Compassion my desires! So I have desires--only they're endless. Endless! And that, that may not be such a blessing, taking for the moment a psychoanalytic point of view . . . But then all the unconscious can do anyway, so Freud tells us, is want. And want! And WANT! Oh, Freud, do I know!"

Alexander Portnoy (g00blar), Thursday, 30 November 2006 14:48 (seventeen years ago) link

you have to come into it first

ken c (ken c), Thursday, 30 November 2006 14:48 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm hitting that afternoon lull.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 30 November 2006 14:53 (seventeen years ago) link

I haven't started doing any work yet. This project is gonna be fucked.

Johnney B has zeros off the line (stigoftdumpilx), Thursday, 30 November 2006 14:54 (seventeen years ago) link

I just got a cheese and nonion sammich and some cheese and nonion crisps. £1.50.

Literature has all the answers, doesn't it?

masonic boom (kate), Thursday, 30 November 2006 15:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Just finished building a bike for someone - pinarello carbon fibre frame, campag eurus wheels, ultegra groupset. It looks pretty fancy.

Norman Phay (Pashmina), Thursday, 30 November 2006 15:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Yexpost.

g0000blar (g00blar), Thursday, 30 November 2006 15:12 (seventeen years ago) link

AAARRRGGGG ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGHHHHHHH

Oh why did I drink so much last night? I knew I should have gone home after the gig. Gooblar, I curse you and the PBW and your hangover inducing ways.

Will this hangover ever go away?

Next time after a gig, I'm not going drinking afterwards. Not for all the pretty boys in Canada.

masonic boom (kate), Thursday, 30 November 2006 16:18 (seventeen years ago) link

hello! hurrah finally it sent me a password! last night was wicked. no hangover but i didn't wake up til like 11 or something (not bad, i think we left the bar at 4? so i prob got home about 5/5.30) so am very glad i am not working today.

HURRAH though, i am back at the lovely job from tues :) and then i have another one the week after that. lovely lady at temping agency told me lovely things about people saying lovely stuff.

emsk ( emsk ), Thursday, 30 November 2006 16:24 (seventeen years ago) link

My lack of password has been distressing too, hence my long silence on the boards. Yay to people saying nice things about you! (tho why anyone would say anything otherwise is quite beyond me)

I've got a feeling I'm gonna be here a million years, but I ain't leaving until I've cracked this tricky problem with the Data Profile Co-efficients.

Johnney B has zeros off the line (stigoftdumpilx), Thursday, 30 November 2006 16:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey help me think of a name for my quiz team for a BIG quiz tomorrow nite. So far all suggestions haf been v.lame, currently various puns on acting/actors (too dire to mention here) are being considered, but none of them are any good.

Dr.C (Dr.C), Thursday, 30 November 2006 17:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Too hungover to think of funnies. :-(

Oh, the crapulent abyss, the chasm of the aftereffects. I think I may still have been drunk this morning when I woke up.

Why do I have to be such a freak? Why can't I just be normal for once in my life? It's not fair. :-(

masonic boom (kate), Thursday, 30 November 2006 17:29 (seventeen years ago) link

No wait....."The Crapulent Abyss"?

No.

Dr.C (Dr.C), Thursday, 30 November 2006 17:31 (seventeen years ago) link

The Late Fear and the Potato Fear?

masonic boom (kate), Thursday, 30 November 2006 17:38 (seventeen years ago) link

IRL boys - BAD

Pop star boys - GOOD

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g152/Lnachts/120851687_42bb02a22d.jpg

masonic boom (kate), Thursday, 30 November 2006 18:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Well, I've totally fucked that up. Oh well.

masonic boom (kate), Thursday, 30 November 2006 18:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I am getting nothing at all for Christmas except my ticket to ATP.

I haven't dated anyone for, ooh, years and years and years, but I think if you are struggling to talk to someone and need the pointers of interweb mentalists also not in relationships as a guide for how to hold a conversation, then that's a sign right there that this isn't perhaps the person for you. You will KNOW when you click with someone, when conversation comes easily. Do you struggle this much to become friends with people? The process is pretty much the same.

I am appalling at picking team names in pub quizzes, sorry. I also tend to be quite drunk and laugh heartily at everyone else's amusing efforts before forgetting all about them by the end of the night. Sorry. Anyway, the pubs round our way just have smutty innuendo-laden names, not clever witticisms. (and no, I can't remember any of them)

ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Thursday, 30 November 2006 18:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, coz, like all connections with people are *instant* and no one on a first date is *ever* shy or nervous or, like, needs a bit of drawing out.

masonic boom (kate), Thursday, 30 November 2006 18:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Lessons learned: I am just such a freaking mentalist. And all efforts to make myself *not* look like a mentalist will only make me look like more of a mentalist.

masonic boom (kate), Thursday, 30 November 2006 18:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Why? Seriously, are you people like this when you go out and meet new people in the pub, at work, go for a drink with mates and they bring someone along you don't know but end up sitting next to, etc? Take some pressure of yourselves!

Actually, Ken sort of said this already, didn't he? This:

i much prefer to just try and have a good time than seeing a date as some kind of data mining exercise with speed and efficiency being an issue! see in my ideal date either person will just start talking about anything, interest or not, and the other will listen and respond accordingly, with no agenda like "i'm going to find out this this this and this about you by 9:15 and then i'll tell you how much i like the same thing" because i find that that usually hinders a genuine conversation.

Seriously, it's not that hard to talk to people! And if you have issues with talking to and dealing with people in general, perhaps you might want to address that before expecting to snare the love of your life over the course of an agenda-laden evening?

xpost

ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Thursday, 30 November 2006 18:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Dating always looks so freaking simple, when you're married, doesn't it?

But yeah, you're right, I'm a psycho and a mentalist and have no business even speaking to people in the first place, as I've proved over and over again.

God, I need sleep.

masonic boom (kate), Thursday, 30 November 2006 18:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Kate, I know you think this entire thread is about you, but I was directing advice in general to anyone who cared to read it. Don't be so paranoid! As I recall, it wasn't even you who brought up the subject of what to talk about on dates, was it?

Yes, I'm married. There's a reason I got that way too. But, yeah, as someone who successfully dated someone to the point that we realised that we got on well enough to continue doing this for the rest of my life, I thought I may be in a position to offer advice (and, FYI, not that it's any of your business, I went through a fuckload of disastrous soul-destroying relationships built on desperation, nothing, sex, all manner of doomed-to-failure reasons before this one turned up).

But I guess I'm just a "smug married" in your eyes, rather than someone who learned a bit about how to do this relationship stuff successfully. Sorry for thinking my experience was relevant.

(btw, if people in relationships piss you off so much, why do you want to be in one so much?)

ailsa_xx (ailsa_xx), Thursday, 30 November 2006 19:01 (seventeen years ago) link

G wants this posted here, he has no PW so he can't

http://www.youtube.com/v/T0tpXbpYR9s

Ed (dali), Thursday, 30 November 2006 19:03 (seventeen years ago) link

PLUR

Ed (dali), Thursday, 30 November 2006 19:03 (seventeen years ago) link

My tip for getting rid of dating awkwardness: make sure one of you misses your last train home! It distracts you enough to make sure the awkwardness evaporates, and it's an amusing story to tell the grandchildren!

(Morning! Happy December! White rabbits!)

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 1 December 2006 09:47 (seventeen years ago) link


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