I'd be sort of sad if I had to start my annual year-end film detrius thread here.

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I love that everytime I open this thread, Daniel Craig's boobies stare back at me.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 21:45 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, I thought Letters from Iwo Jima wasn't supposed to open until next year.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 21:46 (fifteen years ago) link

It got pushed up when Flags underperformed.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 21:47 (fifteen years ago) link

Flags has vanished from NY, but no Iwo.

is that the Oklahoma! Critics Circle?

Dr M (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 21:50 (fifteen years ago) link

How nuts is it that Flags nearly got an entire row of perfect ***** ratings in the most recent Film Comment critics' chart?!

Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 21:55 (fifteen years ago) link

I dunno. Sometimes I don't even know half those chart guys are. I'm not even sure I saw anything **** new this year. Yet I generally like Eastwood when he's not ripping off Rocky IV.

Dr M (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 22:03 (fifteen years ago) link

That John Waters list is better with his comments, of course:

1 United 93 (Paul Greengrass) The best movie in the last five years. No cheap shots in this one! I have friends who would watch a snuff film, yet they refuse to see this great action picture—I don’t get why.

2 Jackass Number Two (Jeff Tremaine) Playing on more than three thousand screens, Jackass 2 was the number-one-grossing movie in America on its opening weekend—and the male stars eat shit and drink horse semen for real. They’re nude a lot, too. If this isn’t cultural terrorism, I don’t know what is.

3 The Last King of Scotland (Kevin Macdonald) Forest Whitaker tops the performance of Joseph Olita in 1981’s Rise and Fall of Idi Amin, one of my all-time favorite trash masterpieces.

4 Shortbus (John Cameron Mitchell) When was the last time the star of a film rimmed someone, sang “The Star-Spangled Banner,” and walked away with his dignity? A touching, lovely movie that I hope gets turned into a Broadway musical.

5 The Departed (Martin Scorsese) The best-acted film of the year from America’s coolest director. The final shot is beyond perfection.

6 Sherrybaby (Laurie Collyer) Maggie Gyllenhaal plays an ex-convict drug addict (the kind I see in Baltimore every day), and the film is so depressing and great that I wish I could see it with an all-female prison audience.

7 Inside Man (Spike Lee) Handsome bank-robbing outfits—so chic, so scary, so fashionably conformist.

8 Sleeping Dogs Lie (Bobcat Goldthwait) A feminist tale of a girl who once blew her dog and mistakenly tells her boyfriend. Now there’s a high-concept romantic comedy.

9 Hamilton (Matthew Porterfield) A tiny, minimalist art film from Baltimore that made it to New York and is astonishing in its simple beauty, amazing performances, and hypnotic pace. The real thing.

10 Marie Antoinette (Sofia Coppola) Sofia Coppola is Karen Kilimnik!

Marmot (marmotwolof), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 22:17 (fifteen years ago) link

he oft has bad taste when watching films, too (tho I've only seen Shortbus and Ditztoinette).

Dr M (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 22:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah but I'm intrigued by Bobcat Goldthwait Feminist Dog Blowing Movie now that I know what it is.

Marmot (marmotwolof), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 22:26 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, that one's been totally Netflixed.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 22:54 (fifteen years ago) link

many x-posts I was thinking Letters from Iwo Jima was the title of the American part.

milo (milo), Wednesday, 6 December 2006 23:47 (fifteen years ago) link

Between the Top 10 overall and the Top 10 indies, I feel safe in declaring this to be the worst year ever for American cinema. Jesus.

No shit. Jesus is that list depressing.

C0L1N B... (C0L1N B...), Thursday, 7 December 2006 05:04 (fifteen years ago) link

I'd at least wait until the formerly-Village Voice polls come out before declaring that.

In any case, it's the worst year ever for me going to cinema from America or anywhere else.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 7 December 2006 05:48 (fifteen years ago) link

uh holmes, the word is 'detritus'. jus' sayin!

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Thursday, 7 December 2006 09:18 (fifteen years ago) link

but anyway it must have been a bad year for films, i only paid to see three.

temporary enrique (temporary enrique), Thursday, 7 December 2006 09:20 (fifteen years ago) link

The only movie I went to see this year was Casino Royale.

Marmot (marmotwolof), Thursday, 7 December 2006 09:27 (fifteen years ago) link

Enrique, it's kind of a tradition.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 December 2006 17:17 (fifteen years ago) link

I can't figure out why I liked Volver as much as I did despite it being completely Almodovar-By-Numbers

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 7 December 2006 17:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, I've been having trouble figuring that out, too. Mostly it was just an entertaining, well-made film.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 December 2006 17:38 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm a fan of detrius, even if I'm not a fan of most of the movies detrius celebrates.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 7 December 2006 18:41 (fifteen years ago) link

Was The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada released this year or last year?

milo (milo), Thursday, 7 December 2006 21:36 (fifteen years ago) link

take your pick. it was on last year's list for critics, but most theaters didn't get it til this year I think.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 8 December 2006 06:25 (fifteen years ago) link

re Volver, it's the singer not the song

Dr M (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 December 2006 14:30 (fifteen years ago) link

Regardless of how mediocre or bad 2006 was for American films, I saw one critic point out that it would seem to be even more shockingly terrible for foreign titles released in the U.S. this year. Volver will probably win every "not from here" prize in existence, and almost everyone is saying it's not up to his last three. Beyond that, it's Lazarescu, L'Enfant and ... that would seem to be it for heavy hitters with widespread support. Duck Season and Three Times and Gabrielle would push the list over five, but I defy you to try and stretch that list to the 15 or 20 necessary to match years past.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 8 December 2006 18:37 (fifteen years ago) link

On the other hand, I just saw that the NY Times suggested that NYFCC might pick Army of Shadows for Best Picture this year.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 8 December 2006 18:45 (fifteen years ago) link

(not that any of their critics should know that, as I think they're not involved in the awards.)

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 8 December 2006 18:45 (fifteen years ago) link

even more shockingly terrible for foreign titles released in the U.S. this year.

I don't think it's all that shocking when US distributors seem to be taking fewer and fewer chances (or ones that do are folding). Tsai ming-Liang has completed two since Goodbye Dragon Inn that haven't been distrib'd.

Foreign detrius films are crowd-pleasers; even if I liked Volver OK, I'd likely put Kekexili (Mountain Patrol), Battle in Heaven, 4, Fratricide plus maybe Changing Times ahead of it.

Doesn't The Science of Sleep count as foreign?

Dr M (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 9 December 2006 05:41 (fifteen years ago) link

Maybe it does. Maybe it does.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 9 December 2006 08:47 (fifteen years ago) link

I saw Gabrielle at NYFF '05, but it'd be my only serious challenger thus far to Inland Empire at #1.

Dr M (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 10 December 2006 08:24 (fifteen years ago) link

A ton of critics awards came out today. I don't keep track of what shows up when, but I can't remember the last time so many happened simultaneously. The only two that really matter ...

Picture: "Letters From Iwo Jima"
Runner-up: "The Queen"

Director: Paul Greengrass, "United 93"
Runner-up: Clint Eastwood, "Flags of Our Fathers" and "Letters From Iwo Jima"

Actor: Sacha Baron Cohen, "Borat" and Forest Whitaker, "The Last King of Scotland" (tie) (no runner-up)

Actress: Helen Mirren, "The Queen"
Runner-up: Penelope Cruz, "Volver"

Supporting actor: Michael Sheen, "The Queen"
Runner-up: Sergi Lopez, "Pan's Labyrinth"

Supporting actress: Luminita Gheorghiu, "The Death of Mr. Lazarescu"
Runner-up: Jennifer Hudson, "Dreamgirls"

Screenplay: Peter Morgan, "The Queen"
Runner-up: Michael Arndt, "Little Miss Sunshine"

Cinematography: Emmanuel Lubezki, "Children of Men"
Runner-up: Tom Stern, "Flags of Our Fathers" and "Letters From Iwo Jima"

Production design: Eugenio Caballero, "Pan's Labyrinth"
Runner-up: Jim Clay and Geoffrey Kirkland, "Children of Men"

Music: Alexandre Desplat, "The Queen" and "The Painted Veil"
Runner-up: Thomas Newman, "The Good German" and "Little Children"

Foreign-language film: "The Lives of Others"
Runner-up: "Volver"

Documentary/non-fiction film: "An Inconvenient Truth"
Runner-up: "Darwin's Nightmare"

Animation: "Happy Feet"
Runner-up: "Cars"

Douglas Edwards experimental/independent film/video award: "Old Joy" (Kelly Reichardt) and "In Between Days" (So Yong Kim)

New generation award: Jonathan Dayton, Valerie Faris (directors) and Michael Arndt (screenwriter), "Little Miss Sunshine"

Career achievement award (previously announced): Robert Mulligan


Best Picture: The Departed (ru: United 93)
Best Director: Martin Scorsese (ru: Paul Greengrass)
Best Actor: Forest Whitaker (ru: Ryan Gosling)
Best Actress: Helen Mirren (ru: Judi Dench)
Best Supporting Actor: Mark Wahlberg (ru: Michael Sheen, Alec Baldwin)
Best Supporting Actress: Shareeka Epps (ru: Meryl Streep)
Best Ensemble Cast: United 93 (ru: The Departed)
Best Screenplay: The Departed (ru: The Queen)
Best Foreign Film: Pan's Labyrinth (ru: Volver)
Best Documentary: Deliver Us from Evil, Shut Up & Sing (ru: 51 Birch Street)
Best New Filmaker: Ryan Fleck (ru: Jonathan Dayton & Valerie Faris)
Best Cinematography: Pan's Labyrinth (ru: The Painted Veil, Curse of the Golden Flower)

Eric H. (Eric H.), Sunday, 10 December 2006 23:37 (fifteen years ago) link

"matter" (Boston critics not too parochial on that Bos-mick mob thing, huh).

Idi Amin and Borat tying in LA is about the level of 'seriousness' present in the whole exercise.

Douglas Edwards experimental/independent film/video award: "Old Joy" (Kelly Reichardt) and "In Between Days" (So Yong Kim)

^the Ghettoizing Actual Art award?^

Dr M (Dr Morbius), Monday, 11 December 2006 14:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Sick. Jackie Earl Haley just won an NYFCC award.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 11 December 2006 16:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh, following this in realtime, are you? c'mon, Child Molester is a gimme.


Dr M (Dr Morbius), Monday, 11 December 2006 16:36 (fifteen years ago) link

and why has your inner dreamgirl already prejudged that one? cuz it figures to be a Bill Condon vision, ie harmless mediocrity?

Dr M (Dr Morbius), Monday, 11 December 2006 16:37 (fifteen years ago) link

They misspelled Jackie Earle Haley's name.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 11 December 2006 16:42 (fifteen years ago) link

wow, his last film credit before this year was Maniac Cop 3: Badge of Silence.

Dr M (Dr Morbius), Monday, 11 December 2006 16:44 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm thinking this'll be another dullish Departed crowning, unless Volver upsets

Dr M (Dr Morbius), Monday, 11 December 2006 16:54 (fifteen years ago) link

Are you kidding? I'm no Bill Condon fan. I'm not even a musical fan. I am a fan of black women, so there's that.

The only reason I'm prejudiced against Haley winning is because it's a mediocre performance in a baity role in a worthless movie.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:12 (fifteen years ago) link

United 93 for the win.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:15 (fifteen years ago) link

Best Actor: Whitaker againnnnnnzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:17 (fifteen years ago) link

How sad that Gosling and Cohen split the runner up. The bluehair demographic is insurmountable this year what with the NYT critics (and, it looks, Nathan Lee) out of the picture.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:19 (fifteen years ago) link

Rex Reed's hair is periwinkle, I'll have you know.

Condon > Haggis (yeah, I meant you wdn't be expecting much from him)

btw here is the shortlist of 15 Oscar Documentary Features:

“Can Mr. Smith Get to Washington Anymore?”
“Deliver Us from Evil”
“The Ground Truth”
“An Inconvenient Truth”
“Iraq in Fragments”
“Jesus Camp”
“Jonestown: The Life and Death of People’s Temple”
“My Country, My Country”
“Shut Up & Sing”
“Sisters in Law”
“Storm of Emotions”
“The Trials of Darryl Hunt”
“An Unreasonable Man”
“The War Tapes”

and the 56 for Best Song (I guess Keillor's "Bad Jokes" is not original to the movie, and this will be Borat's sole nom, maybe):

“Believe It” from “The Heart of the Game”
“The Best” from “Everyone’s Hero”
“The Book I Write” from “Stranger than Fiction”
“Broken Bridges” from “Broken Bridges”
“Chan Chan” from “Water”
“Circle in the Sand” from “Friends with Money”
“Coming Back to You” from “Deja Vu”
“Definition of Love” from “Akeelah and the Bee”
“Dreamz with a Z” from “American Dreamz”
“Encarnacion” from “Nacho Libre”
“Every Word” from “Wordplay”
“Family of Me” from “Over the Hedge”
“A Father’s Way” from “The Pursuit of Happyness”
“The Girl in Byakkoya - White Tiger Field” from “Paprika”
“Heist” from “Over the Hedge”
“Hillbilly Holla” from “Barnyard”
“Hollywood Familia” from “Hollywood Familia”
“I Belong” from “Open Season”
“I Need to Wake Up” from “An Inconvenient Truth”
“In Rosa Vernat Lilium” from “The Nativity Story”
“It’s a Fight” from “Rocky Balboa”
“Ju Hua Tai” from “Curse of the Golden Flower”
“Keep Holding On” from “Eragon”
“Khalbali” from “Rang de Basanti”
“Kingdom of Love” from “One Night with the King”
“Listen” from “Dreamgirls”
“A Lonely Man” from “Don’t Come Knocking”
“Love You I Do” from “Dreamgirls”
“Luka Chuppi” from “Rang de Basanti”
“The Motion” from “3 Needles”
“My Little Girl” from “Flicka”
“Never Gonna Break My Faith” from “Bobby”
“Never Let Go” from “The Guardian”
“O Kazakhstan” from “Borat Cultural Learnings of America for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan”
“Open Your Heart” from “Saving Shiloh”
“Ordinary Miracle” from “Charlotte’s Web”
“Our Town” from “Cars”
“Patience” from “Dreamgirls”
“Philosophy” from “Step Up”
“PJ & Rooster” from “Idlewild”
“Quest for Love” from “Arthur and the Invisibles”
“Real Gone” from “Cars”
“Really Nice Day” from “The Wild”
“Shine on ‘Em” from “Blood Diamond”
“The Song of the Heart” from “Happy Feet”
“Star Mile” from “The Last Kiss”
“Still” from “Over the Hedge”
“Suenos” from “Hollywood Familia”
“Sweet Music” from “Glory Road”
“Til the End of Time” from “Little Miss Sunshine”
“Tonight” from “Night at the Museum”
“Try Not to Remember” from “Home of the Brave”
“Upside Down” from “Curious George”
“When You Taught Me How to Dance” from “Miss Potter”
“Won’t Let You Fall” from “Poseidon”
“You Know My Name” from “Casino Royale”

Dr M (Dr Morbius), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:24 (fifteen years ago) link

Why are the NYT critics out of the picture?

Why is "PJ & Rooster" the only potential nominee from Idlewild?

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh, yeah. I don't think Condon is ruinous, but I don't think he's really capable of anything other than middlebrow white elephants (I feel bad for saying so, for the record).

(x-post) I can never figure that out. There are some weird bylaws (from the NYT, not the NYFCC) that prevent them from participating, but some years they do anyway.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:26 (fifteen years ago) link

Speaking of periwinkle...

Best Actress: Helen Mirren, THE QUEEN



Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:29 (fifteen years ago) link

Is NYFCC the first Army of Shadows win for foreign film?

jaymc, that is an Academy-winnowed song list, not one of all eligibles.

NYT writers don't vote for sports awards, either.

Dr M (Dr Morbius), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:32 (fifteen years ago) link


haha, I was just gonna say Reed & Edelstein must be having a Mirren-Dench hairpull to settle that one.

Dr M (Dr Morbius), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:33 (fifteen years ago) link

2006 was a great year for shitty movies.

Dragons (per the previous FAQ answer) (nklshs), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:36 (fifteen years ago) link

I assume, Oscarwise, United 93 is considered, ummm, "too New York."

Dr M (Dr Morbius), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:39 (fifteen years ago) link


thebingo (thebingo), Monday, 11 December 2006 17:52 (fifteen years ago) link

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