That's the thing, it seems insane to me that an organization which obviously has access to the kind of legal advice that Liverpool does would release a statement like that. Why not put out a simple, terse announcement of their intent to appeal?
― Number None, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 00:38 (twelve years ago) link
cuz they are taking their lead from dalglish?
― awesome to have a clever englishman zinging yr enemies (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 21 December 2011 00:40 (twelve years ago) link
xposts to myself. That "I dunno" was a tired, generic, confused "dunno" - surely the FA must be certain beyond reasonable doubt for them to have found Suarez guilty. But then why would Liverpool make a statement like that?
Ngog played well tonight.
― Chris, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 00:49 (twelve years ago) link
The statement from Liverpool is a disgrace. Putting it down to "but Suarez is from Uruguay and in Uruguay the word "negro" doesn't have negative or discriminative connotations" is the worst bollocks I heard all year. Face it, Suarez admitted having said what Evra claims he said, but is putting it down to "cultural differences", which is a load of horse shite. Suarez, you are playing in England now, it doesn't matter in the slightest what your customs regarding the word "negro" are in the country you were born.
This belongs in the Ronaldinho bottle-opener thread tbh
― lebateauivre, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 00:53 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, we need to get this thing out in to the wider world of ILX. They love a bit of racism
― Number None, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 00:56 (twelve years ago) link
Face it, Suarez admitted having said what Evra claims he said, but is putting it down to "cultural differences", which is a load of horse shite.
Why is it? Fact remains that cultural differences do come into play here surely, regardless of the fact it happened in England? Why else would Suarez admit saying something?
― Chris, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 01:00 (twelve years ago) link
dunno why it wd be difficult for the FA to get opinion from Uruguayans on whether the word is considered racist there. Suarez has been a long time in Europe to really use the harmless banter defence tho.
― Nemanja Vmić (Julie Lagger), Wednesday, 21 December 2011 01:01 (twelve years ago) link
Hey, Mark Hughes is backhttps://p.twimg.com/AhJPBhxCMAABeXG.jpg
― Number None, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 01:08 (twelve years ago) link
xpost to myself. I mean was the emphasis on Evra to prove his stance, or on Suarez to deny it? If that makes sense. Have the FA deemed the context/intent to be irrelevant here? My head hurts.
Anyway, Ngog did play well tonight didn't he. And I do feel a bit sorry for Steve Kean.
― Chris, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 01:11 (twelve years ago) link
nobody knows anything
― Number None, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 01:12 (twelve years ago) link
context is p. irrelevant. when in rome, don't refer to an opponent's race.
― twice banned gabbage is death (p much resigned to deems), Wednesday, 21 December 2011 01:35 (twelve years ago) link
not everything's that blind and white
― Nemanja Vmić (Julie Lagger), Wednesday, 21 December 2011 01:39 (twelve years ago) link
yeah tbf when in rome it's probably allowed for a start
― twice banned gabbage is death (p much resigned to deems), Wednesday, 21 December 2011 01:43 (twelve years ago) link
finest of the fine
― awesome to have a clever englishman zinging yr enemies (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 21 December 2011 01:45 (twelve years ago) link
A few thoughts:
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 07:43 (twelve years ago) link
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 07:55 (twelve years ago) link
the lfc statement from 'it is key to note....' onwards is embarrassing. anyone releasing it in a professional capacity as a public statement to the press wants sacking.
― twice banned gabbage is death (p much resigned to deems), Wednesday, 21 December 2011 11:49 (twelve years ago) link
CPS have announced that they're going to make an announcement about Terry. Why not just make the announcement? This isn't X Factor.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 12:34 (twelve years ago) link
So FA bans are for all competitions, league, FA Cup, Carling Cup yeah?So he'll miss 6 league games, first leg of City C-Cup semi-final and the FA Cup game against Oldham. Back by the end of January. Oh well a nice winter break for him after 2 straight summers of international tournaments. That's not too bad.
― pandemic, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 12:40 (twelve years ago) link
announcements of announcements
way of the world these days IK
― cccccc, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 12:42 (twelve years ago) link
post announcement parties
― twice banned gabbage is death (p much resigned to deems), Wednesday, 21 December 2011 12:43 (twelve years ago) link
I missed the announcement announcement, they should have let us know it was coming.
― mortified of ILX (onimo), Wednesday, 21 December 2011 12:44 (twelve years ago) link
If only there was some way of doing that.
― aldo, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 13:54 (twelve years ago) link
Hahaha at England's brave blubbering penalty-shanking glass-jawed stumbling racist cunt.
― James, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 14:19 (twelve years ago) link
“I have today advised the Metropolitan Police Service that John Terry should be prosecuted for a racially aggravated public order offence following comments allegedly made during a Premier League football match between Queen’s Park Rangers and Chelsea on 23 October 2011. “The decision was taken in accordance with the Code for Crown Prosecutors and after careful consideration of all the evidence, I am satisfied there is sufficient evidence for a realistic prospect of conviction and it is in the public interest to prosecute this case. “Mr Terry will appear before West London Magistrates’ Court on 1 February 2012. “He is now summonsed with a criminal offence and has the right to a fair trial. It is extremely important that nothing should be reported which could prejudice his trial.”
“The decision was taken in accordance with the Code for Crown Prosecutors and after careful consideration of all the evidence, I am satisfied there is sufficient evidence for a realistic prospect of conviction and it is in the public interest to prosecute this case.
“Mr Terry will appear before West London Magistrates’ Court on 1 February 2012.
“He is now summonsed with a criminal offence and has the right to a fair trial. It is extremely important that nothing should be reported which could prejudice his trial.”
― James, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 14:21 (twelve years ago) link
oh dear god its happening its really finally happening
― twice banned gabbage is death (p much resigned to deems), Wednesday, 21 December 2011 14:27 (twelve years ago) link
Hurrah
― The Artist Formerly Known As Teh HoBB, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 14:27 (twelve years ago) link
early christmas present for darragh
― N1ck, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 14:33 (twelve years ago) link
for skilful wingers, minority ethnic groups and cuckolds everywhere, not just me tbf
― twice banned gabbage is death (p much resigned to deems), Wednesday, 21 December 2011 14:36 (twelve years ago) link
you're at least two of those, no?
― N1ck, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 14:39 (twelve years ago) link
― Chris, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 02:00 (13 hours ago) Bookmark Permalink
yeah, i think people from ciudad juarez who move to the uk should be let off on murder charges.
liverpool's statement boiled down to: evra is a known liar + evra says suarez is not a racist
― caek, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 14:41 (twelve years ago) link
― pandemic, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 13:40 (2 hours ago) Bookmark Permalink
suarez ban is suspended until appeals process is exhausted. certainly won't miss any matches during 2011.
― caek, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 14:42 (twelve years ago) link
can i just say, i'm having a lovely time
― caek, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 14:44 (twelve years ago) link
If he doesn't appeal and there aren't any winter cancellations then the next game he's eligible for is Man U.
― aldo, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 14:45 (twelve years ago) link
fwiw if he doesn't explicitly say he's not appealing, then the the ban is suspended until the appeal window expires
― caek, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 14:48 (twelve years ago) link
(14 days)
― caek, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 14:49 (twelve years ago) link
It also strikes me that any decision whether to appeal may be used tactically. Suárez has 14 days to either (i) accept the charge, (ii) lodge an appeal or (iii) do nothing. If he admits the charge the penalty will take effect from the date the charge is admitted. Should Suárez appeal, the penalty is suspended until after the outcome of the appeal. Alternatively, Suárez could do nothing and allow the penalty to begin at the expiry of the 14-day deadline. These options will determine which matches Suárez can play in over the coming weeks.
― caek, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 14:50 (twelve years ago) link
5pm kick off for Udinese - Juventus? Strange. But who am I to argue, I'll just sit back an enjoy. Di Natale bound to score.
― pandemic, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 17:02 (twelve years ago) link
how has buffon been playing this season
― awesome to have a clever englishman zinging yr enemies (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 21 December 2011 17:04 (twelve years ago) link
Made a great penalty save from Totti the other week, prompting a 'maybe I'll just leave Roma' sulk iirc.
― boxall, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 17:05 (twelve years ago) link
― twice banned gabbage is death (p much resigned to deems), Wednesday, 21 December 2011 14:27 (2 hours ago) Bookmark Permalink
Huzzah!
― big popppa hoy, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 17:07 (twelve years ago) link
will suarez also go to jail? what about harry?
― ken c, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 17:08 (twelve years ago) link
why didn't big ron go to jail?
― ken c, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 17:09 (twelve years ago) link
thanks for the reminder pandemic!
― cccccc, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 17:11 (twelve years ago) link
buffon's been solid (missed a couple of games early in the season due to injury)marchisio just missed a presentable chancejuve have started wellxp
― pandemic, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 17:11 (twelve years ago) link
is harry a mad racist?
Nah, just a wheeler dealer
― Number None, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 17:13 (twelve years ago) link
suarez isn't mad
― pandemic, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 17:13 (twelve years ago) link
discrimination against the tax race
― ken c, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 17:14 (twelve years ago) link
will terry get a jury trial and if so, how do i make myself particularly eligible for it?
― N1ck, Wednesday, 21 December 2011 17:33 (twelve years ago) link