itt liverpool not winning things; sandbox i love football

I wish we had details of the evidence. I'll admit to being a bit surprised. Can't argue with it, but that length of ban is very rare, no?

Ya IK, that's how I feel. He must have outright admitted it?

He admitted saying it (whatever it was) but the way it was reported as hingeing on semantics and cultural connotations made me think it was going to be a 'slightly guilty', if that.

It doesn't leave much wriggle room on Terry, anyway.

def. feel vindicated making that 'who will have a more lol liverpool career' poll in february now, even if ronan was annoyed by the audacity of thinking suarez and carroll could be lol

The statement said they are going to provide reasons for the verdict "in due course"

This isn't very lol tbh.

I don't think Suarez' defense could've been "cultural differences" tbh. He's playing in England.

"It doesn't leave much wriggle room on Terry, anyway."

This warms my heart tbh

I'm not loling but he's a deeply unpleasant character and i'm not losing any sleep over this

i'm telling you, terry's denial will be a major factor in nothing happening there

suarez admitted to using 'negro' iirc? wasn't that common knowledge?

So clue me in, can Suarez now face criminal prosecution too?

very unlikely that evra pushes for that, am not sure if anyone else can do so

Yes xp, but if he was speaking Spanish then it'd be different. I don't know what language he was speaking.

He could theoretically be prosecuted, but the verdict reads quite weakly so I wouldn't expect that to be a realistic outcome.

It's not Evra's call, it's for the police & CPS. But they need a complaint first and so far as I am aware there hasn't been one (unlike Terry)

john terry was speaking english, i'm not sure that's relevant tbph IK

oh that's a beaut

Kean must stay.

Think it was supposed to have been 'negrito', maybe he argued that the diminutive form was especially affectionate/harmless? At least in an S. American context.

see yon wee black cunt

Relevant insofar as it'd have a different meaning in Spanish, is what I mean. I'm sure racist abuse in Spanish could equally be prosecuted.

i dunno, it is p lol that liverpool bought a dude like suarez, as if shit like this wasn't going to happen.

cya all post-downtime, let's hope shearer is in by then.

Suarez on twitter:

"Today is a very difficult and painful day for both me and my family. Thanks for all the support, I'll keep working!"

kennethdalglish Kenneth Dalglish
Very disappointed with today's verdict. This is the time when @luis16suarez needs our full support. Let's not let him walk alone. KD

That club statement isn't hanging back.

ffs Liverpool, we've been over this.

It is also our opinion that the accusation by this particular player was not credible - certainly no more credible than his prior unfounded accusations.

He has played with black players and mixed with their families whilst with the Uruguay national side and was Captain at Ajax Amsterdam of a team with a proud multi-cultural profile, many of whom became good friends

the american liverpool fans I know are v fucking annoying right now with their #freeluissuarez tags and whatnot

actually that's probably not something limited to the usa is it

I'm dreading finding out.

I've seen some of the choicer RAWK posts

theyve freed nelson mandela, might as well look into suarez now too

looking forward to the EDL coming out in support of Luis Suarez

to be fair nobody appart from evra heard it, so he's been banned for 8 matches on one person's word. which seems strange to say the least.

the assumption is that he's admitted saying something but denied that he meant it offensively

will the text of the proceedings or judgement be made public?

pretty sure dictatorships dont bother with those niceties

www.amnesty.org.uk/freeluis

They said reasons would follow in due course but I imagine details will probably be leaked everywhere by tomorrow. It'll definitely be appealed too.

after what they done to a man like degsy hatton too

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/8498/daemspreviewiz2.png

to be fair nobody appart from evra heard it, so he's been banned for 8 matches on one person's word. which seems strange to say the least.

Except he admitted saying 'it'* himself. It's not that there was any dispute about that, the dispute was about whether 'it' was intended as a racist insult to wind up the opposition, or a jovial term of endearment as used in Uruguay between good old buddies who were just having a bit of banter together. Suarez claimed the latter, saying 'it' was what Evra's own teammates called him.

*'it' appears to have been 'negro', rather than 'negrito' (as reported a while ago)

Disclaimer: obviously I wasn't there, didn't here anything, and have no idea what the intent was

The more i think about it the more ill-considered that statement from Liverpool seems. I mean they've essentially libelled Evra.

1) Gah - 'here' = 'hear'

2) NN - yes, quite. Those 'prior unfounded allegations' consisting of....what? The Chelsea lawn mower comment that was never attributed to Evra and.....nothing?

And the Finnan incident?

Which was a complaint from some lip-reading fans. C'mon Chris

I know mate, I was just filling in the blank at the end of the previous post.

Fair enough, any thoughts on the statement yourself?

im just glad that this whole incident is now settled and can't disrupt the peaceful and friendly atmosphere that has hithero prevailed around east lancs derbies

Amen to that.

Except he admitted saying 'it'* himself. It's not that there was any dispute about that, the dispute was about whether 'it' was intended as a racist insult to wind up the opposition, or a jovial term of endearment as used in Uruguay between good old buddies who were just having a bit of banter together. Suarez claimed the latter, saying 'it' was what Evra's own teammates called him.

This is the thing. Is the FA sure beyond reasonable doubt of the context in which he said what he's supposed to have said? I dunno. That "prior unfounded accusations" thing is disappointing though - pisses me off the number of people who've referred to those incidents.

That's the thing, it seems insane to me that an organization which obviously has access to the kind of legal advice that Liverpool does would release a statement like that. Why not put out a simple, terse announcement of their intent to appeal?